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Title: Favorite way of getting rid of bad guy
Description: What was your favorite end of a bad guy?


Foss Gly Jr. - March 6, 2004 11:11 PM (GMT)
I think tossing the old bag down the elevator shaft was the best.

Cyclops - March 6, 2004 11:36 PM (GMT)
Yes, the elevator shaft - was that flood tide? This subject is a good one because it touches on a matter that I mention often when discussing the Pitt/Austin books. Pitt, especially in the earlier books, seems to have an edge on him that makes him somehow very realistic to me. By edge I mean the way that he seems to build up an anger that he later takes out on the bad guy. If a villan murders people and has no remorse, it disgusts and maddens Pitt, and he gets mad and gets even. It seems that in the more recent Pitt and in the Austin novels this characteristic is missing. Trojan Odessey is a very good example: Spector (who turns out to be a woman) basically is "turned over to the court". I would rather have seen her punished by Pitt or Al for the way that she showed no regard for human life. I don't want my heros to be "above seeking payback" as I find that so unrealistic. We see constantly on the news how criminals hide behind the legal system, and never seem to get what they deserve. I like to see them get what they deserve in fiction, and the Pitt novels used to do a little more of that.

Foss Gly - March 8, 2004 08:57 PM (GMT)
Another vote for the elevator/old bag extermination. Rough, but fitting in a macrabe sense.

kujo54 - March 8, 2004 09:31 PM (GMT)
The old bag/elevator shaft was in Deep Six. Yes, a fitting punishment. I think my
favorite was in Sahara, when Dirk sealed O'Bannion in the burial chamber. Or
tricking Massarde into drinking his own poison. Dirk get's a little inventive, while
Al usually just strangles 'em. Nothing wrong with that either. More personal.

Foss Gly - March 8, 2004 10:07 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (kujo54 @ Mar 8 2004, 05:31 PM)
Dirk get's a little inventive, while
Al usually just strangles 'em. Nothing wrong with that either. More personal.

Yup. Al prefers to give out his own brand of justice. No complicated planning, no inventiveness. Just get the job done.
Dirk usually displays some poetic justice instead!

mm6mm6 - March 9, 2004 01:24 AM (GMT)
Kujo54, I agree with doing in Massarde in Sahara. I remember reading for the first time when Dirk order Massarde released from burning naked, tied down in the desert. I thought, "What's he doing that for? He's letting him go? In the helicopter?" Then Cussler snuck in that bit about Massarde downing the two water bottles Giordino brought out.

And Dirk tells Massarde he just tied him in the desert to make him thirsty. And he now drank radioactive, poisoned water and can die a screaming, pain filled death.

Cool.

Hiram_Yeager - March 11, 2004 10:03 PM (GMT)
my favorite ending to a baddie was the end of Omo Kanai in Valhalla Rising...what a better way to die than get crushed in your escape vessel? I love the way Dirk just smirks at him until the bitter end :D

Nic0demus - March 11, 2004 10:14 PM (GMT)
I would have to say that the poetic justice given to the baddies in atlantis found definately trumps my opinions of the other badguy related deaths....serves them rite for ordering the firing on the marines....jerks...

Browser - March 11, 2004 11:49 PM (GMT)
Pinning Moro Kamatori to the wall with his own Katana in Dragon was good.
Beating the ever-loving crap out of Oskar Rondheim at the end of Iceberg was good.
Min Koryo Bougainville down the lift shaft was also good.
Pitt also has an astonishing ability to return from the dead as well. 2 examples are (1) walking back to the relief station where Sandecker, Al and Jessie LeBaron were loking for him with a bunch of kids in tow and (B) driving Big John, the sea tractor, to the Pacific atoll holiday resort at the end of Dragon. :)

Butch 179 - March 13, 2004 12:53 AM (GMT)



I have to go with having Masserade drink the contaminated water.

Omo Kani sealed in the sub would come in second.

Leigh Hunt - March 19, 2004 06:07 PM (GMT)
I have to Agree with calling Mon an old crone and tossing her down the elevator shaft.I loved that!! :)

buzzardluck - March 26, 2004 06:22 PM (GMT)
How ever they expire dont care as long as i dont see it comming :P

Ian Kharitonov - March 27, 2004 08:34 PM (GMT)
Hitler in AF.
;)
Followed by the Wolfs, Massarde and Ammar. Some very satisfying moments!

hiramyaegar - March 28, 2004 06:01 PM (GMT)
Remember in Sahara, when Dirk and Al were in the waste complex, talking with Massarde (was it massarde?) and Al took Massarde or one of his henchmen into a seperate room. And when Al came back, Dirk said something like, "What'd you do? There's not a scratch on him. What happened to picking him apart or something?" and Al said, "Oh, I just sat him down and told him how I was going to pick him apart, bit by bit."

Something like that.

MrKABC - April 4, 2004 07:37 PM (GMT)
My vote goes for the trashing of Oskar Rondheim at the end of Iceberg. Follow up would be entombing Quin Shang in the wreck of the Princess Dou Wan (Yung Tai) in his own sub. :D

golferreino2002 - April 4, 2004 09:55 PM (GMT)
I would like to see Dirk kill someone in the presidential staff. George W. has my vote.

Nic0demus - April 5, 2004 02:44 AM (GMT)
Whoa, golf....
let's try and keep the anti-government stuff at a minimum...
or none at all... :unsure:




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