Title: Japanese midget sub found after 64 years
DirkPitt - November 24, 2006 10:14 AM (GMT)
A Japanese midget submarine that disappeared during a wartime raid in Sydney Harbour more than 60 years ago has been discovered by a group of amateur divers.
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The story of the accidental discovery and pictures of the submarine — still containing the remains of two Japanese sailors — will be aired on 60 Minutes this Sunday.
"It's really nice to see that there's this amazing mystery that has been solved by ordinary Australians," 60 Minutes' Liam Bartlett told ninemsn. "It's not a question of hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of hi-tech electrical search gear or anything like that. You've just got these seven amateur scuba divers who have lucked onto this amazing mystery."
Twenty-one Australian sailors were killed by the sub known as M24 when it entered Sydney Harbour with two similar craft on May 31, 1942. The other subs were recovered soon after the attack, but mystery has surrounded the location of the third craft ever since.
Australian and Japanese diplomats are now in dicussions over the M24 and the remains of the two sailors inside.
"Whether they want to raise the vessel, or whether they want to recover the remains of the two Japanese submariners inside and leave the rest of the vessel there, is up to them," Bartlett said.
The government, divers and 60 Minutes staff are still reluctant to discuss the exact location of the craft.
"These guys are really worried that if it becomes public, every man and his dog will want to go and dive on it," Bartlett said.
Although the Australian Navy believed the sub was located south of the Sydney Harbour heads, the sunken craft actually lies in the other direction.
"In terms of solving the mystery I can tell you that the submarine as it came out of the heads on that fateful night, turned north," Bartlett said.
"I can also tell you it's closer to Sydney than you think. It will surprise some people."
As for the condition of the sub after 60 years under water, Bartlett says it's still intact.
"It's sitting up quite proud on the surface of the ocean bed. There's a bit of sand and silt gathered over time as you'd expect. But it's unmistakable it's the submarine. You'll be really interested when you see the pictures on Sunday night."
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similar sub pic
The story of the accidental discovery and pictures of the submarine — still containing the remains of two Japanese sailors — will be aired on 60 Minutes this Sunday.
"It's really nice to see that there's this amazing mystery that has been solved by ordinary Australians," 60 Minutes' Liam Bartlett told ninemsn. "It's not a question of hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of hi-tech electrical search gear or anything like that. You've just got these seven amateur scuba divers who have lucked onto this amazing mystery."
Twenty-one Australian sailors were killed by the sub known as M24 when it entered Sydney Harbour with two similar craft on May 31, 1942. The other subs were recovered soon after the attack, but mystery has surrounded the location of the third craft ever since.
Australian and Japanese diplomats are now in dicussions over the M24 and the remains of the two sailors inside.
"Whether they want to raise the vessel, or whether they want to recover the remains of the two Japanese submariners inside and leave the rest of the vessel there, is up to them," Bartlett said.
The government, divers and 60 Minutes staff are still reluctant to discuss the exact location of the craft.
"These guys are really worried that if it becomes public, every man and his dog will want to go and dive on it," Bartlett said.
Although the Australian Navy believed the sub was located south of the Sydney Harbour heads, the sunken craft actually lies in the other direction.
"In terms of solving the mystery I can tell you that the submarine as it came out of the heads on that fateful night, turned north," Bartlett said.
"I can also tell you it's closer to Sydney than you think. It will surprise some people."
As for the condition of the sub after 60 years under water, Bartlett says it's still intact.
"It's sitting up quite proud on the surface of the ocean bed. There's a bit of sand and silt gathered over time as you'd expect. But it's unmistakable it's the submarine. You'll be really interested when you see the pictures on Sunday night."
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loren1 - November 24, 2006 01:01 PM (GMT)
It's always exciting when a discovery of this nature is made. Great picture. I hope they can return the men to their familes. It's a part of history so I hope they can raise it and preserve it for future generations. snor:
DirkPitt - November 26, 2006 01:04 PM (GMT)
Just watched the 60 Minutes story of the Japanese midget sub find. Fantastic stuff! The sub was found by 7 amatuer divers just off the coast of Sydney. They made sure it was the real deal before selling the story to 60 Minutes and now they are inviting the Japanese Government to raise it with their help. I guess they can quit their day jobs now! th:
Transcript: sub mystery
November 26, 2006
60 Minutes
Introduction
It's not often you get to make history, but we've just solved one of the great Australian mystery stories. More than 60 years ago, three Japanese midget subs made a daring wartime raid on Sydney. Two were captured, but the third disappeared, seemingly forever. Over the years, there's been many a false start, many a hoax, many a diver claiming to have found the missing sub. But now it's finally been discovered by a bunch of knockabout scuba divers who took me along on their great adventure. What you're about to see is an extraordinary story — a story of plenty of luck and lots of daring, a great chapter in our history unfolding just a few kilometres off Sydney's northern beaches.
Story
LIAM BARTLETT: It's a beautiful morning to be a part of history. Mist over the hills and the sun making its striking appearance over the ocean. We're steaming to an anonymous dot off Sydney to rendezvous with seven knockabout blokes. On cue, they arrive.
DAVID MUIR: Just looking for the mooring buoy we put on it yesterday.
LIAM BARTLETT: You couldn't get better mates — a builder, electrician, bus driver, retired painter. There's nothing fancy about these fellas. In fact, they proudly call their group "no-frills divers". It's pretty amazing, isn't it, to think that we're on top of the wreck right now.
PAUL BAGGOTT: Absolutely incredible, isn't it?
DAVID MUIR: They've been looking for it for, what, 60 years or something?
PAUL BAGGOTT: Solved the mystery.
LIAM BARTLETT: Our exact location is a secret, but we're not that far offshore. And below us is what we think is the answer to one of Australia's greatest World War II mysteries. By normal scuba standards, this is a deep and risky dive. But for these men, the prize that's revealed makes the danger worthwhile. And there she is. At first, in the murky water, it doesn't look like much. But soon, you notice the propellers at the stern. And then, hidden behind the schools of fish, the unmistakable form of the conning tower. This is Japanese midget submarine M24, missing in action for 64 years. And these seven mates discovered it.
TONY HAY: We just saw this long shape with a little lump sticking out of it and the heart, you know, started going and you think 'No, it couldn't be.'
ALAN SIMON: You can actually talk underwater. I yelled at Tone, particularly when we saw the props at the back, 'Sub, sub!'
LIAM BARTLETT: These diving fanatics take the plunge every weekend, forever on the lookout for unchartered wrecks. But stumbling across this submarine was an ambition even they thought was too lofty to seriously contemplate.
PHIL HENDRIE: I had been dreaming of finding this wreck for 25 years of diving. Finally it's a realisation. I still can't believe it.
LIAM BARTLETT: It was the night World War II came to a very unsuspecting Sydney. The Japanese attacked with three midget submarines. The target was supposed to be the American battle cruiser USS Chicago, moored in the harbour. Two of the midgets, the M22 and M27, were discovered and disabled before they could do any damage. But the third, the M24, evaded our defences and fired its two torpedoes. It was a truly audacious strike. Sydney was completely unprepared. Our best defence was probably luck. The USS Chicago, with 1100 sailors on board, was moored just over there. The M24 had her in its sights from around about here. One of its torpedoes, thankfully, fizzled. It ran aground and failed to detonate. But the other just missed the 'Chicago' and a Dutch submarine and hit the sea wall at Garden Island, exploding underneath the HMAS 'Kuttabul'. It was that blast that killed 19 Australian and two British sailors.
NEIL ROBERTS: I honestly thought that time that everybody was dead because it was really horrendous —: the noise and the violence and ... The waves just raced up the stairs and I got caught there. So I took a punt and a deep breath and I knew where the exit was, so I swam under water.
LIAM BARTLETT: Sixty-four years ago, seaman Neil Roberts was 18. Minutes before the attack, he'd finished his watch but, instead of going to his own hammock on a lower deck of the Kuttabul, he borrowed a mate's higher up. If you hadn't had that hammock on the top floor ...?
NEIL ROBERTS: I would have died there. I'm convinced of that. Because where I actually slept was where the bulk of them died. Another friend of mine was nearby there and he was blown up through the roof.
LIAM BARTLETT: In the mayhem of that night, the Chicago and other ships spotted and fired on the Japanese sub, but still it managed to escape. At 1.58, early the next morning, it was detected leaving the harbour and heading straight out to sea. Where it went from that moment, nobody knew — it disappeared without a trace, until now. Since discovering the sub, these no-frill divers have been back to visit about half a dozen times. And while none of them are trained marine archaeologists, properly authenticating their find is important.
ALAN SIMON: I think we've been told that there were 40 different excursions of people that have said they've found it. Well, they haven't and they didn't — we did! And that's just big.
LIAM BARTLETT: Each of the dives has been photographed and then eagerly viewed over and over again by the team. These could well be some of the most important home videos in our country's history. That's the torpedo tube that delivered the torpedo that killed 19 Australians and two British. Do you get a sense of history when you're looking down at this?
TONY HAY: You realise what's gone on and you sort of think 'Well, s**t, this is it', this is what did it 'and here we are.' And then you wake up at 4.00 in the morning and you think 'S**t', again. It's just 'here we are.'
LIAM BARTLETT: For official verification, the men turn to Commander Shane Moore, who's in charge of the Australian Navy's heritage collection. Over the years, the commander has listened to many others with similar claims, all proven false, so he's not quick to make pronouncements.
COMMANDER SHANE MOORE: It looks like it's hit bow first at some speed.
LIAM BARTLETT: But in the end, the video evidence combined with the measurements taken by the divers, proves overwhelming. If it's not the M24, what could it possibly be?
COMMANDER SHANE MOORE: It can't be anything else.
LIAM BARTLETT: You're pretty convinced, looking at these pictures, are you?
COMMANDER SHANE MOORE: Well, I mean ...
LIAM BARTLETT: So these fellas have just found the third one?
COMMANDER SHANE MOORE: It would appear so, Liam. It would appear so.
LIAM BARTLETT: It's amazing, isn't it?
COMMANDER SHANE MOORE: There is no doubt that that is an A-type submarine of the Imperial Japanese Navy. And they only brought three to Australian waters, according to their own war diaries, and two of them were sunk in Sydney Harbour and the other one went missing from Sydney Harbour. And so it can only be the M24.
LIAM BARTLETT: As a naval historian, did you always expect that this would be found eventually?
COMMANDER SHANE MOORE: You would say so. 70-90-foot submarines don't necessarily disappear forever. But it's extraordinary that some amateur divers have come up with this remarkable find. Not many people understand just how significant this will be to the Japanese. It's an honourable thing that you gentlemen have done.
LIAM BARTLETT: As seven weekend divers mark their unlikely place in history, spending time with the commander unravels more bits of the puzzle.
COMMANDER SHANE MOORE: We think he might have suffered battle damage, and perhaps one of the reasons why his shots missed from relatively close range was that he had to fire using his own eyesight from the conning tower itself, 'cause his periscope was probably destroyed by, um... … uh, gunfire or whatever.
LIAM BARTLETT: And this could be the evidence to explain what eventually crippled the submarine. On top of the hull, the divers find what looks like bullet holes — possibly fired from the USS Chicago.
COMMANDER SHANE MOORE: They were firing not only large-calibre weapons — five-inch guns, for example — but they're also machine guns throughout — 20mm guns — and that hole actually looked like a 20mm.
LIAM BARTLETT: This submarine is the best of the two halves of the midgets that were captured on that night in 1942, brought together here at the War Memorial in Canberra. In size, it's a little bit longer than a cricket pitch, powered by masses of batteries back here. For the crew, it was cramped beyond belief and almost impossible to manoeuvre. If you were assigned to one of these it wasn't a suicide mission, but it was close.
COMMANDER SHANE MOORE: They were career officers. They weren't hostilities only or poorly trained. These were elite, elitely trained officers and seamen.
LIAM BARTLETT: You'd have to be incredibly brave or silly to get inside one of them, that's for sure.
COMMANDER SHANE MOORE: Well, these days we'd call them special forces. And that's essentially what they were called — they were called the special attack group.
NEIL ROBERTS: Over the years, I don't hold any grudges against the Japanese. It was tragic, it was war, and I suppose in a major sense I have a tremendous admiration for these men because they were locked in not a very fancy craft and they died.
ALAN SIMON: On behalf of the no-frills divers and all the divers that found this wreck, we'd like to donate this wreath as a mark of respect to the two Japanese sailors that died on this submarine.
LIAM BARTLETT: The wreck of the M24 is also now a war grave. It's expected the remains of Sub-Lieutentant Katsuhisa Ban and Petty Officer Namori Ashibe are still on board. Of course, there will be enormous interest in it, and other divers will want to take a look. But a warning — disturbing this site comes with million-dollar fines and jail terms.
ALAN SIMON: If divers and other unscrupulous people find out about this wreck, they will go down on it and they will take things and it won't be respectful. We want to be respectful, and we would like to see the Japanese Government actually raise the wreck and we would like to take part in helping them do that.
LIAM BARTLETT: Late in the week, a small but significant ceremony. Defence Minister Brendan Nelson was given the secret coordinates of the midget submarine.
DEFENCE MINISTER BRANDAN NELSON: It's an extremely important part of our history, and our shared history with Japan, and under no circumstances will anybody be able to lawfully go near it, to take anything from it or, indeed, to disturb it in any way, shape or form.
LIAM BARTLETT: These seven mates are rightly proud of their achievement, but you're guaranteed none of them will be hanging up their flippers just yet. They'll all be out again next weekend searching for another great treasure.
DAVID ARNOLD: They found a little bit of history, and I think we've maybe created a little bit for ourselves.
LIAM BARTLETT: So all those years, all those weekends, and finally this?
ALAN SIMON: Big, isn't it? It's huge.
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Transcript: sub mystery
November 26, 2006
60 Minutes
Introduction
It's not often you get to make history, but we've just solved one of the great Australian mystery stories. More than 60 years ago, three Japanese midget subs made a daring wartime raid on Sydney. Two were captured, but the third disappeared, seemingly forever. Over the years, there's been many a false start, many a hoax, many a diver claiming to have found the missing sub. But now it's finally been discovered by a bunch of knockabout scuba divers who took me along on their great adventure. What you're about to see is an extraordinary story — a story of plenty of luck and lots of daring, a great chapter in our history unfolding just a few kilometres off Sydney's northern beaches.
Story
LIAM BARTLETT: It's a beautiful morning to be a part of history. Mist over the hills and the sun making its striking appearance over the ocean. We're steaming to an anonymous dot off Sydney to rendezvous with seven knockabout blokes. On cue, they arrive.
DAVID MUIR: Just looking for the mooring buoy we put on it yesterday.
LIAM BARTLETT: You couldn't get better mates — a builder, electrician, bus driver, retired painter. There's nothing fancy about these fellas. In fact, they proudly call their group "no-frills divers". It's pretty amazing, isn't it, to think that we're on top of the wreck right now.
PAUL BAGGOTT: Absolutely incredible, isn't it?
DAVID MUIR: They've been looking for it for, what, 60 years or something?
PAUL BAGGOTT: Solved the mystery.
LIAM BARTLETT: Our exact location is a secret, but we're not that far offshore. And below us is what we think is the answer to one of Australia's greatest World War II mysteries. By normal scuba standards, this is a deep and risky dive. But for these men, the prize that's revealed makes the danger worthwhile. And there she is. At first, in the murky water, it doesn't look like much. But soon, you notice the propellers at the stern. And then, hidden behind the schools of fish, the unmistakable form of the conning tower. This is Japanese midget submarine M24, missing in action for 64 years. And these seven mates discovered it.
TONY HAY: We just saw this long shape with a little lump sticking out of it and the heart, you know, started going and you think 'No, it couldn't be.'
ALAN SIMON: You can actually talk underwater. I yelled at Tone, particularly when we saw the props at the back, 'Sub, sub!'
LIAM BARTLETT: These diving fanatics take the plunge every weekend, forever on the lookout for unchartered wrecks. But stumbling across this submarine was an ambition even they thought was too lofty to seriously contemplate.
PHIL HENDRIE: I had been dreaming of finding this wreck for 25 years of diving. Finally it's a realisation. I still can't believe it.
LIAM BARTLETT: It was the night World War II came to a very unsuspecting Sydney. The Japanese attacked with three midget submarines. The target was supposed to be the American battle cruiser USS Chicago, moored in the harbour. Two of the midgets, the M22 and M27, were discovered and disabled before they could do any damage. But the third, the M24, evaded our defences and fired its two torpedoes. It was a truly audacious strike. Sydney was completely unprepared. Our best defence was probably luck. The USS Chicago, with 1100 sailors on board, was moored just over there. The M24 had her in its sights from around about here. One of its torpedoes, thankfully, fizzled. It ran aground and failed to detonate. But the other just missed the 'Chicago' and a Dutch submarine and hit the sea wall at Garden Island, exploding underneath the HMAS 'Kuttabul'. It was that blast that killed 19 Australian and two British sailors.
NEIL ROBERTS: I honestly thought that time that everybody was dead because it was really horrendous —: the noise and the violence and ... The waves just raced up the stairs and I got caught there. So I took a punt and a deep breath and I knew where the exit was, so I swam under water.
LIAM BARTLETT: Sixty-four years ago, seaman Neil Roberts was 18. Minutes before the attack, he'd finished his watch but, instead of going to his own hammock on a lower deck of the Kuttabul, he borrowed a mate's higher up. If you hadn't had that hammock on the top floor ...?
NEIL ROBERTS: I would have died there. I'm convinced of that. Because where I actually slept was where the bulk of them died. Another friend of mine was nearby there and he was blown up through the roof.
LIAM BARTLETT: In the mayhem of that night, the Chicago and other ships spotted and fired on the Japanese sub, but still it managed to escape. At 1.58, early the next morning, it was detected leaving the harbour and heading straight out to sea. Where it went from that moment, nobody knew — it disappeared without a trace, until now. Since discovering the sub, these no-frill divers have been back to visit about half a dozen times. And while none of them are trained marine archaeologists, properly authenticating their find is important.
ALAN SIMON: I think we've been told that there were 40 different excursions of people that have said they've found it. Well, they haven't and they didn't — we did! And that's just big.
LIAM BARTLETT: Each of the dives has been photographed and then eagerly viewed over and over again by the team. These could well be some of the most important home videos in our country's history. That's the torpedo tube that delivered the torpedo that killed 19 Australians and two British. Do you get a sense of history when you're looking down at this?
TONY HAY: You realise what's gone on and you sort of think 'Well, s**t, this is it', this is what did it 'and here we are.' And then you wake up at 4.00 in the morning and you think 'S**t', again. It's just 'here we are.'
LIAM BARTLETT: For official verification, the men turn to Commander Shane Moore, who's in charge of the Australian Navy's heritage collection. Over the years, the commander has listened to many others with similar claims, all proven false, so he's not quick to make pronouncements.
COMMANDER SHANE MOORE: It looks like it's hit bow first at some speed.
LIAM BARTLETT: But in the end, the video evidence combined with the measurements taken by the divers, proves overwhelming. If it's not the M24, what could it possibly be?
COMMANDER SHANE MOORE: It can't be anything else.
LIAM BARTLETT: You're pretty convinced, looking at these pictures, are you?
COMMANDER SHANE MOORE: Well, I mean ...
LIAM BARTLETT: So these fellas have just found the third one?
COMMANDER SHANE MOORE: It would appear so, Liam. It would appear so.
LIAM BARTLETT: It's amazing, isn't it?
COMMANDER SHANE MOORE: There is no doubt that that is an A-type submarine of the Imperial Japanese Navy. And they only brought three to Australian waters, according to their own war diaries, and two of them were sunk in Sydney Harbour and the other one went missing from Sydney Harbour. And so it can only be the M24.
LIAM BARTLETT: As a naval historian, did you always expect that this would be found eventually?
COMMANDER SHANE MOORE: You would say so. 70-90-foot submarines don't necessarily disappear forever. But it's extraordinary that some amateur divers have come up with this remarkable find. Not many people understand just how significant this will be to the Japanese. It's an honourable thing that you gentlemen have done.
LIAM BARTLETT: As seven weekend divers mark their unlikely place in history, spending time with the commander unravels more bits of the puzzle.
COMMANDER SHANE MOORE: We think he might have suffered battle damage, and perhaps one of the reasons why his shots missed from relatively close range was that he had to fire using his own eyesight from the conning tower itself, 'cause his periscope was probably destroyed by, um... … uh, gunfire or whatever.
LIAM BARTLETT: And this could be the evidence to explain what eventually crippled the submarine. On top of the hull, the divers find what looks like bullet holes — possibly fired from the USS Chicago.
COMMANDER SHANE MOORE: They were firing not only large-calibre weapons — five-inch guns, for example — but they're also machine guns throughout — 20mm guns — and that hole actually looked like a 20mm.
LIAM BARTLETT: This submarine is the best of the two halves of the midgets that were captured on that night in 1942, brought together here at the War Memorial in Canberra. In size, it's a little bit longer than a cricket pitch, powered by masses of batteries back here. For the crew, it was cramped beyond belief and almost impossible to manoeuvre. If you were assigned to one of these it wasn't a suicide mission, but it was close.
COMMANDER SHANE MOORE: They were career officers. They weren't hostilities only or poorly trained. These were elite, elitely trained officers and seamen.
LIAM BARTLETT: You'd have to be incredibly brave or silly to get inside one of them, that's for sure.
COMMANDER SHANE MOORE: Well, these days we'd call them special forces. And that's essentially what they were called — they were called the special attack group.
NEIL ROBERTS: Over the years, I don't hold any grudges against the Japanese. It was tragic, it was war, and I suppose in a major sense I have a tremendous admiration for these men because they were locked in not a very fancy craft and they died.
ALAN SIMON: On behalf of the no-frills divers and all the divers that found this wreck, we'd like to donate this wreath as a mark of respect to the two Japanese sailors that died on this submarine.
LIAM BARTLETT: The wreck of the M24 is also now a war grave. It's expected the remains of Sub-Lieutentant Katsuhisa Ban and Petty Officer Namori Ashibe are still on board. Of course, there will be enormous interest in it, and other divers will want to take a look. But a warning — disturbing this site comes with million-dollar fines and jail terms.
ALAN SIMON: If divers and other unscrupulous people find out about this wreck, they will go down on it and they will take things and it won't be respectful. We want to be respectful, and we would like to see the Japanese Government actually raise the wreck and we would like to take part in helping them do that.
LIAM BARTLETT: Late in the week, a small but significant ceremony. Defence Minister Brendan Nelson was given the secret coordinates of the midget submarine.
DEFENCE MINISTER BRANDAN NELSON: It's an extremely important part of our history, and our shared history with Japan, and under no circumstances will anybody be able to lawfully go near it, to take anything from it or, indeed, to disturb it in any way, shape or form.
LIAM BARTLETT: These seven mates are rightly proud of their achievement, but you're guaranteed none of them will be hanging up their flippers just yet. They'll all be out again next weekend searching for another great treasure.
DAVID ARNOLD: They found a little bit of history, and I think we've maybe created a little bit for ourselves.
LIAM BARTLETT: So all those years, all those weekends, and finally this?
ALAN SIMON: Big, isn't it? It's huge.
link
Steve Raymond - November 26, 2006 11:19 PM (GMT)
It was a great story on 60 mins. Did you notice the worried look from the diver as a TV camera shot film over the diver's shoulder as he handed the Defence Minister Brendan Nelson the secret coordinates of the sub? I'm sure he thought all his hard work was wasted if the camera could zoom in on the coordinates.
DirkPitt - November 26, 2006 11:46 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Steve Raymond @ Nov 27 2006, 07:19 AM) |
| It was a great story on 60 mins. Did you notice the worried look from the diver as a TV camera shot film over the diver's shoulder as he handed the Defence Minister Brendan Nelson the secret coordinates of the sub? I'm sure he thought all his hard work was wasted if the camera could zoom in on the coordinates. |
Yeah, I caught that! That cameraman might well have zoomed in but the footage may have been edited out. If the wreck is pillaged sometime soon and the cameraman quits 60 Minutes, we'll know what happened! :lol:
pink little birdie - November 27, 2006 09:05 AM (GMT)
This way cool.
They were saying today on 7 news that it has not been officially confirmed yet. and it's already on it's way to being a hertitage site so people can't dive on it...
Huzzah.
They might call them midget subs but they are still huge
They were saying today on 7 news that it has not been officially confirmed yet. and it's already on it's way to being a hertitage site so people can't dive on it...
Huzzah.
They might call them midget subs but they are still huge
Andy in West Oz - November 28, 2006 03:44 AM (GMT)
The coolest news ever!
Saw the 60 Minutes story which was very well done. Noticed the guy looking worried about the camera!
Now if we can just find the Sydney...!
For some amateur divers they've done some good work in recording the details in order to confirm the find.
Very exciting stuff.
Cheers beer:
Andy
Saw the 60 Minutes story which was very well done. Noticed the guy looking worried about the camera!
Now if we can just find the Sydney...!
For some amateur divers they've done some good work in recording the details in order to confirm the find.
Very exciting stuff.
Cheers beer:
Andy
Andy in West Oz - December 1, 2006 06:45 AM (GMT)
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20853934-2,00.html
Further details re the wreck.
Cheers beer:
Andy
Further details re the wreck.
Cheers beer:
Andy
loren1 - December 1, 2006 02:15 PM (GMT)
Thanks for the link. It's scary that these lost subs could still explode. The secerts that the depths of our oceans hold have only begun to be discovered. snor: