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Title: Shark species classifed as endangered


Andy in West Oz - February 22, 2007 10:58 PM (GMT)

Maeve - February 23, 2007 03:57 AM (GMT)
Geez I need to start reading the headlines more carefully! I read it as "Shark species classifed as dangerous" and I thought "Well duh!" Wasn't til I read the link that I got it right, duh to me! :P
Thanks for the article Andy, always interesting, I don't think a lot of people give much thought to just how endangered sharks are around the world's oceans. Though for some reason we seem to have a population explosion of small sharks - esp seven-gilled sharks along our coast at the moment (Otago, east coast of South Island New Zealand). the fishermen are grumbling and they aren't necessarily the tastiest of fish, or maybe it was just my cooking. :unsure:

Riyukco - February 25, 2007 08:07 PM (GMT)
Small sharks do tend to do better. Bigger sharks need more food and are hunted more relentlessly because of the shark sterotype. Many sharks will not eat you. Great white, makos (I think), and a few other speices are known for being agressive towards human. Most are harmless, including the biggest of them all, The whale shark. Despite the sterotype sharks aren't the badest preditor in the oceans. A couple species of crocodiles, whales (Orca manly), and a few speices of seals would actually eat a great white.

Andy in West Oz - February 25, 2007 09:41 PM (GMT)
I would agree with you on the Orca point but can't regarding the crocodiles and the seals. There are some pretty impressive seals out there, leopard (typed that and it looked like leotard...a leotard seal...LOL) and elephant spring to mind, but I'm not sure about them vs a Great White. Entirely possible but I'm keen to see evidence as it would be fascinating.

beer:

Andy

Riyukco - February 25, 2007 09:53 PM (GMT)
Thats a small great white and remember they are not sure just how big the great white gets. Several species of crocdile can reach over twenty feet. A couple they estimate can reach thirty but they have no documented cases of this. Walrus is classified as a seal/sealion spieces. They are filmed attacks of orca or orcas attacking and killing great whites.

Andy in West Oz - February 25, 2007 10:49 PM (GMT)
Orcas work well together in a team so I copmpletely agree with you on that one.

beer:

Andy

oswalder - February 26, 2007 04:38 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Andy in West Oz @ Feb 25 2007, 04:49 PM)
Orcas work well together in a team so I copmpletely agree with you on that one.

Especially when they get all wriled up by electromagnetic waves! :lol:

Sorry, I'm reading Lost City.

Riyukco - February 26, 2007 09:36 PM (GMT)
Sorry buddy but that was polar shift.

Andy in West Oz - February 26, 2007 11:34 PM (GMT)
Orcas were pretty dastardly (my word for the day) in Matthew Reilly's Ice Station too!

beer:

Andy

Kellym - February 26, 2007 11:44 PM (GMT)
Riyukco, you have most of us onside with the Orca point. But have their been any documented cases of seals or crocodiles attacking and killing Great Whites?

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a leotard seal
LMAO good one, Andy ;)

Deary Me Erik, you getting yourself all confused again? Must be all those wedding plans muffling your brain :lol:

Riyukco - February 27, 2007 01:22 PM (GMT)
Not that I know of but I wouldn't put it past them. Male crocodiles are known for eating their own young. In the animal kingdom babies are fair game to anyone. Remember sharks are only a few inches long when thay are born. I may have over estimated the seals but some have been know to get as big as cars and they are carniverous.

Have you guys ever seen lake placid. They say that they belive that the indopacific crocodile, the black camain, and a couple other species can get that big if they live long enough. Up to and over a hundred years. Usually they are kill by another crocodile, preditor, or man first.

There is filmed attack of a bengal tiger killing a mugger crocodile.

oswalder - February 27, 2007 02:36 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Riyukco @ Feb 26 2007, 03:36 PM)
Sorry buddy but that was polar shift.

Yep, you're right.

So far (~100 pages left in Polar Shift I think) I liked Lost City better so maybe that's why I had it on my mind...

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There is filmed attack of a bengal tiger killing a mugger crocodile.

Has anyone seen that show where they simulate which animal would win if they got into a fight? The only one I saw was between a lion and a crocodile I think. They actually used a fair amount of science in calculating bite strength and quickness and whatnot.

Riyukco - February 27, 2007 08:05 PM (GMT)
This was in a documentary about bengel tigers. The tiger bit right through the crocs skull.




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