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Title: Wow! Odyssey Marine Exploration strikes
Description: 17 tons of colonial-era silver and gold!


Owen Ruger - May 18, 2007 01:18 PM (GMT)
I just heard a small news brief on the radio about this, and here's Fox's report from their website. can you imagine locating half a billion dollars worth of treasure??? wow! cop:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,273512,00.html

Deep-Sea Explorers Discover Possible Richest Shipwreck Treasure in History
Friday, May 18, 2007

TAMPA, Fla. — Deep-sea explorers said Friday they have mined what could be the richest shipwreck treasure in history, bringing home 17 tons of colonial-era silver and gold coins from an undisclosed site in the Atlantic Ocean. Estimated value: $500 million.

A jet chartered by Tampa-based Odyssey Marine Exploration landed in the United States recently with hundreds of plastic containers brimming with coins raised from the ocean floor, Odyssey co-chairman Greg Stemm said. The more than 500,000 pieces are expected to fetch an average of $1,000 each from collectors and investors.

"For this colonial era, I think (the find) is unprecedented," said rare coin expert Nick Bruyer, who examined a batch of coins from the wreck. "I don't know of anything equal or comparable to it."

Citing security concerns, the company declined to release any details about the ship or the wreck site Friday. Stemm said a formal announcement will come later, but court records indicate the coins might come from a 400-year-old ship found off England.

Because the shipwreck was found in a lane where many colonial-era vessels went down, there is still some uncertainty about its nationality, size and age, Stemm said, although evidence points to a specific known shipwreck. The site is beyond the territorial waters or legal jurisdiction of any country, he said.

"Rather than a shout of glee, it's more being able to exhale for the first time in a long time," Stemm said of the haul, by far the biggest in Odyssey's 13-year history.

He wouldn't say if the loot was taken from the same wreck site near the English Channel that Odyssey recently petitioned a federal court for permission to salvage.

In seeking exclusive rights to that site, an Odyssey attorney told a federal judge last fall that the company likely had found the remains of a 17th-century merchant vessel that sank with valuable cargo aboard, about 40 miles off the southwestern tip of England. A judge signed an order granting those rights last month.

In keeping with the secretive nature of the project dubbed "Black Swan," Odyssey also isn't talking yet about the types, denominations and country of origin of the coins.

Bruyer said he observed a wide range of varieties and dates of likely uncirculated currency in much better condition than artifacts yielded by most shipwrecks of a similar age.

The Black Swan coins — mostly silver pieces — likely will fetch several hundred dollars to several thousand dollars each, with some possibly commanding much more, he said. Value is determined by rarity, condition and the story behind them.

Controlled release of the coins into the market along with their expected high value to collectors likely will keep prices at a premium, he said.

The richest ever shipwreck haul was yielded by the Spanish galleon Nuestra Senora de Atocha, which sank in a hurricane off the Florida Keys in 1622. Treasure-hunting pioneer Mel Fisher found it in 1985, retrieving a reported $400 million in coins and other loot.

Odyssey likely will return to the same spot for more coins and artifacts.

"We have treated this site with kid gloves and the archaeological work done by our team out there is unsurpassed," Odyssey CEO John Morris said. "We are thoroughly documenting and recording the site, which we believe will have immense historical significance."

The news is timely for Odyssey, the only publicly traded company of its kind.

The company salvaged more than 50,000 coins and other artifacts from the wreck of the SS Republic off Savannah, Ga., in 2003, making millions. But Odyssey posted losses in 2005 and 2006 while using its expensive, state-of-the-art ships and deep-water robotic equipment to hunt for the next mother lode.

"The outside world now understands that what we do is a real business and is repeatable and not just a lucky one shot deal," Stemm said. "I don't know of anybody else who has hit more than one economically significant shipwreck."

In January, Odyssey won permission from the Spanish government to resume a suspended search for the wreck of the HMS Sussex, which was leading a British fleet into the Mediterranean Sea for a war against France in 1694 when it sank in a storm off Gibraltar.

Historians believe the 157-foot warship was carrying nine tons of gold coins to buy the loyalty of the Duke of Savoy, a potential ally in southeastern France. Odyssey believes those coins could also fetch more than $500 million.

But under the terms of a historic agreement Odyssey will have to share any finds with the British government. The company will get 80 percent of the first $45 million and about 50 percent of the proceeds thereafter.

Andy in West Oz - June 6, 2007 07:25 AM (GMT)

DirkPitt - June 6, 2007 08:11 PM (GMT)
uh oh :o

SPAIN ORDERS ARREST OF ODYSSEY ‘TREASURE’ SHIPS
A Spanish judge has ordered the arrest of the two ships belonging to the US shipwreck salvage company Odyssey Marine Exploration – the Odyssey Explorer and the Ocean Alert – that have been operating out of Gibraltar.


Odyssey recently recovered a treasure consisting of ancient gold and silver coins with an estimated value of £260m, from an unidentified ship in the bottom of the sea.
According to a report in La Gaceta de los Negocios, the arrest order issued by a judge in La Linea was applied for by a heritage attorney (fiscal) linked to the Tribunal Superior de Justicia de Andalucía. The company has been accused of pillaging up to 30 sites in the Sea of Alboran. The order has been conveyed to Guardia Civil marine units

http://www.chronicle.gi/readarticle.php?id=000011475

tonym5 - June 6, 2007 10:04 PM (GMT)
Gold!!! With that you can buy those judges!! p: Let me at some of that precious gold!!!! p: beer:

Andy in West Oz - June 6, 2007 11:21 PM (GMT)
I'm with ya, Tony. I reckon a couple blokes in a row boat armed with nothing but charming smiles and a Royal Navy ensign could make a run on the Spanish Navy and get away with it! D'you reckon we could share what we fit in the boat or would we have to make two runs? :lol:

beer:

Owen Ruger - June 7, 2007 01:18 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Andy in West Oz @ Jun 6 2007, 11:21 PM)
I'm with ya, Tony. I reckon a couple blokes in a row boat armed with nothing but charming smiles and a Royal Navy ensign could make a run on the Spanish Navy and get away with it! D'you reckon we could share what we fit in the boat or would we have to make two runs? :lol:

beer:

Count me in, I got my row boat and canoe merit badges while I was a Boy Scout cop:

mrsgrandmom - June 7, 2007 02:26 PM (GMT)
Count me in too. I might be a senior citizen but I am young at heart. I will bring water and food. Seniors do not eat much. This is a asset. I also have a coin cleaner if that helps get me in.

Well I am going to take a swim in the pool to get ready for my share of the rowing.


Riyukco - June 7, 2007 08:33 PM (GMT)
Yeah, I'll help too, Tony.

Andy in West Oz - June 8, 2007 10:43 AM (GMT)
Hmm, the row boat may have to become a surplus patrol boat!

Owen Ruger - June 8, 2007 12:47 PM (GMT)
cop: how about an old sail boat turned pirate ship p: arrr! I get the eye patch. arrr!

mrsgrandmom - June 8, 2007 03:39 PM (GMT)
Now that we are rethinking the boat and are on a pirate ship, I am still in. Since we are going for a larger boat, lets asked Dr. Cussler if he could loan us some equipment. Even better, let us look through his inventory and pick what we want. I for one will learn how to use the equipment. There must be how to do books some where. Remember I have a coin cleaner so we won't have to get one.

Oh, what flag will we be sailing under?

I can feel the water and breeze in my hair from the ocean.

Still swimming everyday to get prepared for the trip,

Remember young at heart.

Andy in West Oz - June 10, 2007 03:34 AM (GMT)
Okay, fair enough we use a sailing ship. However, in true Cussler/Pitt/Austin/Cabrillo tradition, we shall fit her out with a couple of MTU diesels (conveniently, I know someone who works in that area for Austal Ships!) driving a pair of pump jets so when we need to get away fast...we can! A wolf in sheep's clothing or should that be a cheetah in sheep's clothing?

The jolly boat shall be a bath tub with outboard attached... j:

beer:

Owen Ruger - June 11, 2007 04:44 AM (GMT)
How about this. She looks like she's made of wood, worn and battered... only that her hull is made of ballistic grade steal with two hidden torpedo tubes bellow the surface. Arrr p:

As far as the flag to run under??? How about a bright yellow “Don’t tread on me” flag with big freaking rattle snake.

cop:

Andy in West Oz - June 24, 2007 11:14 PM (GMT)
An interesting development...shows the Spanish government to be a little greedy!

http://www.ndbrno.czj.autoblog.com/2007/06...on-ocean-floor/

beer:

Andy in West Oz - June 28, 2007 02:13 AM (GMT)

Andy in West Oz - July 13, 2007 01:37 AM (GMT)

loren1 - July 13, 2007 12:55 PM (GMT)
I'm ready too, let's go get some treasutre!!! :lol: p:

Andy in West Oz - July 19, 2007 12:02 AM (GMT)

Andy in West Oz - August 8, 2007 01:23 AM (GMT)

Andy in West Oz - January 18, 2008 05:52 AM (GMT)
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/nation/...dertrading.html

Convoluted would be an understatement.

beer:




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