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Title: No Mention of NUMA
Description: Credit where credit is due!


boissee - June 23, 2004 07:57 PM (GMT)
In another thread we discussed an auction that Guernsey's had of Titanic items and other famous liners, like the Andrea Doria, the Normandie and the Carpathia. The rather large full color catalog gives a description of each ship and how it met its demise and I found the one on the Carpathia very interesting and noteworthy. Hopefully all of you know that Dr. Cussler and NUMA found the Carpathia (the ship that picked up all the Titanic survivors) off the coast of Ireland in 514 ft of water. The following is the description that the book gives regarding the discovery of the famed Cunard liner sunk by a German U-boat in 1918.

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Carpathia was lost on July 17,1918 when German submarine U-55 sent three torpedoes into her, 170 miles west of Bishop Rock off the coast of Ireland.  FIve lives were lost.  Recent expeditions found Carpathia resting upright in 600ft of water.



Sadly, no mention of whose expedition it was, I suppose to save room, however I've come across other articles and documentary's that don't give the proper credit to its finders. I watched a special on the Hunley and the mention of Cussler was minute to say the least.

What I want to know is if any of you have come across the same thing? If so, post it here! t:


hiramyaegar - June 23, 2004 10:15 PM (GMT)
Yes. Unfortunately those (meaning NUMA) who have sacrificed so much time, money, and effort into finding and surveying this pieces of our past will never receieve the credit that they are due

Kellym - June 24, 2004 06:58 AM (GMT)
I saw the programme on the Hunley - I wasn't the least bit impressed :angry:

loren1 - June 24, 2004 12:10 PM (GMT)
like clive said in the Seahunter's when he presented the model of the ship to the city he gets "no respect" it's a shane that people don't reconize his efforts and all he has done to preserve the rich history of these ships. cudos to you Clive T;

Foss Gly - June 24, 2004 09:10 PM (GMT)
I recently wondered that if one "really big wreck" was discovered by NUMA, would it finally give the organization the respect it so rightfully deserves? But then I think at the accomplishments of Dr. Cussler and his real-life NUMA, and realize that they have discovered several major wrecks in their time, and have yet to recieve the accolaides they deserve.
The Carpathia is one of the most historic vessels in modern times. It's name and role in history is instantly recognized by millions, and yet the discovery of the ship's wreck is but a sidenote? Unforgivable.
I can almost understand the Hunley being "forgotten" by a lot of people, as it's importaince in "world" maritime history has been all but forgotten but most. Even NUMA's dilligent work at recovering the sub has (unfortunately) made no real impact in the history books.

hiramyaegar - June 25, 2004 11:21 PM (GMT)
Somewhere, I saw a book or documentary on the Mary Celeste, and wondered if it was mentioned that CC and NUMA discovered it. Unfortunately, they probably didn't get any credit, and if they did, it was probably just a one liner.

robpgreer - June 30, 2004 08:55 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Foss Gly @ Jun 24 2004, 01:10 PM)
I recently wondered that if one "really big wreck" was discovered by NUMA, would it finally give the organization the respect it so rightfully deserves?

The Hunley was a "really big wreck" and I think they have gotten a fair amount of press about it, although spotty when presented by some sources.




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