Title: "We did it before, and we can do it again"
Description: Plot/theme/name repeats in the books.
Helene Noelle - October 4, 2004 05:40 PM (GMT)
"We did it before, and we can do it again"
There is a reference to this song in Atlantis Found (30). I thought it would be fun to examine plot/theme/name repeats in the adventures.
Note: The abduction theme is a separate topic and excluded in this group.
Helene Noelle - October 4, 2004 05:43 PM (GMT)
Albatross:
Albatros, an aircraft replica. The Mediterranean Caper (1, 2, 8)
The Albatross is Oskar Rondheim's good luck symbol. Iceberg (8)
Abatross twin jet owned by Henri Villon. Night Probe! (78)
Albatros, a tug in the Odyssey tug fleet. Trojan Odyssey (9)
Helene Noelle - October 4, 2004 05:46 PM (GMT)
Ometepec:
Billy Yuma's village Canyon Ometepec. Inca Gold (44)
Specter's research facility located on the Isle de Ometepe in Lake Nicaragua. Trojan Odyssey (34)
Helene Noelle - October 4, 2004 05:47 PM (GMT)
Specter:
The name of the greatest art thief in history was Mansfield Zolar - the Specter. He sired a dynasty, Zolar International, to carry on the tradition.
Inca Gold (30)
Mr. Specter, the founder of Odyssey, a giant scientific research and construction empire. Trojan Odyssey (5)
Helene Noelle - October 4, 2004 05:49 PM (GMT)
Underground River:
The Oued Zarit, a legendary river that ran through Mali sunk into the sands. Still flows underground and empties into the Niger River. Sahara (29)
The underground river idea comes to full play in Inca Gold!
Helene Noelle - October 4, 2004 05:52 PM (GMT)
Fog:
Fog and the scent of Eucalyptus. Pacific Vortex! (10, 11)
Fog and the scent of Eucalyptus. Deep Six (12)
Helene Noelle - October 4, 2004 05:55 PM (GMT)
Gender Switches:
A woman was once a man - Kirsti Fyrie in Iceberg (Epilogue)
A woman is really a man - Boudicca Dorsett in Shock Wave (54)
A man is really a woman - Emma in Vixen 03 (64)
A man is really a woman - Specter is Epona Elaide in Trojan Odyssey (48)
Helene Noelle - October 4, 2004 05:57 PM (GMT)
Car Bombs:
Dirk Pitt's Talbot-Lago. Deep Six (44)
The idea comes into full play as the Kaiten Project in Dragon!
Helene Noelle - October 4, 2004 06:08 PM (GMT)
Ladies with Red Hair:
Summer Moran(Pacific Vortex!)
Hair: Red.
Eye Color: Gray.
Loren Smith (Vixen 03, Deep Six, Dragon, Inca Gold, [Shock Wave], Atlantis Found, Valhalla Rising, Trojan Odyssey)
Hair: Cinamon.
Eye Color: Violet.
Lily Sharp (Treasure)
Hair: Dark red.
Eye Color: Blue-green.
Pat O'Connell (Atlantis Found)
Hair: Red.
Eye Color: Green.
Note: Another Pat O'Connell (Flood Tide) has blond hair.
Summer Pitt (Trojan Odyssey)
Hair: Red.
Eye Color: Gray.
Epona Elaide (Trojan Odyssey)
Hair: Red.
Eye Color: Jade.
Gamay Trout (Kurt Austin Series)
Hair: Red.
Helene Noelle - October 4, 2004 06:10 PM (GMT)
More to come! And feel free to add your own!!
Helene Noelle - October 4, 2004 06:21 PM (GMT)
Disguises and Imposters:
Dr. Steve Miller in Inca Gold [impersonated by Cyrus Sarason ] (1), (2), (3), (5)
Dr. Thomas Ambrose in Atlantis Found [impersonated by of the Wolf killers (2), (3), (4), (5)]
This is just for starters on the idea. ;)
Nick Kismet - October 4, 2004 07:40 PM (GMT)
Leigh Hunt (Hunter)
seems to be just about everywhere, past and present.
Also, just for giggles, next time you read one of the books, do so with the names of NUMA trustees in hand. You'll see more than a few making guest appearances.
hiramyaegar - October 4, 2004 08:35 PM (GMT)
Boy, you are good at this Helene!!! A bunch of repeating theme's in Dr. Cussler's books.
Kellym - October 4, 2004 09:43 PM (GMT)
th: Helene th:
I know it's not DP but Juan Cabrillo had a few disguises in Golden Buddha the most memorable being Captain Jed Smith!
DirkPitt - October 4, 2004 10:48 PM (GMT)
Awesome research, Helene ... WOW th:
tonym5 - October 4, 2004 11:06 PM (GMT)
Loved that wild ride in the underground river beneath the sonoran desert with Dirk and Al. That was awesome and funny as hell!!!! :lol:
Mostly Heep - October 7, 2004 09:21 PM (GMT)
Here's a couple I've just found
Mary Conrow,Senator Pg 530 Atlantis Found
Mary Conrow, Kelly Egans close friend and co-worker. Pg 221 Valhalla Rising
The name Collins.
Collins...............JIM suit operator. Pg 241 Night Probe
Collins,Felicia.... Singer/actress. Pg 95 Vixen 03
Collins,Greg.......Presidents chief aide. Pg 83 RTT
Collins, Marshall..Kremlin Security Advisor. Pg 152 RTT
Collins,Oliver......Captain of the Lady Flamborough. Pg 246 Treasure.
Collins and West Shipping Lines.. Owners of the Earl of Wattlesfied. Pg 76 Valhalla Rising
Helene Noelle - October 8, 2004 07:13 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Nick Kismet @ Oct 4 2004, 07:40 PM) |
Leigh Hunt (Hunter)
seems to be just about everywhere, past and present.
Also, just for giggles, next time you read one of the books, do so with the names of NUMA trustees in hand. You'll see more than a few making guest appearances. |
th: Nick Kismet, you are right about Leigh Hunt(er)! I have a page on my web site that deals his character roles in the adventures. I just included the list in the "Character Names, and how they relate to Clive Cussler" Topic in this section of the forum. Don't know why I didn't think of doing that before now.
Good point about the NUMA trustess. Some have already been mentioned in the "Characters Names, and how they relate to Clive Cussler" Topic in this section of the forum. ;)
Helene Noelle - October 8, 2004 07:19 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Kellym @ Oct 4 2004, 09:43 PM) |
th: Helene th:
I know it's not DP but Juan Cabrillo had a few disguises in Golden Buddha the most memorable being Captain Jed Smith! |
kellym,
Don't forget that Juan Cabrillo was disguised as Smith in Flood Tide (15)!
Helene Noelle - October 8, 2004 07:21 PM (GMT)
Alright Mostly Heep th: You are rockin'! w:
Helene Noelle - October 8, 2004 07:27 PM (GMT)
Pushing the Detonation Button:
Foss Gly pushes the button to blow-up the Empress of Ireland. Night Probe! (56)
General Peter Velikov pushes the button to set the chain reaction of explosions in the harbor. Cyclops (73)
Ibn pushes the button to blow the glacier next to Lady Flamborough. Treasure (55)
Helene Noelle - October 8, 2004 07:29 PM (GMT)
Faked plane crash:
Oskar Rondheim's party guests are drugged, beaten, and taken to the site of an old plane wreck. Iceberg (17)
Henri Villion and Danielle Sarveau - news release that they died in a plane crash. Night Probe! (78)
A plane crash is staged to claim the UN team perished in the crash. Sahara (27 - the plan)
Helene Noelle - October 8, 2004 07:32 PM (GMT)
Butera:
Carzo Butera (Oskar Rondheim). Iceberg (21)
Lt. Commander Scotty Butera on the Samuel R. Wallace. Raise the Titanic! (56)
Helene Noelle - October 8, 2004 07:33 PM (GMT)
Shagnasty:
"Doesn't the name LeBaron mean anything to you?"
"No more than Shagnasty, Quagmire, or Smith," Pitt lied fiendishly.
Cyclops (8)
Kelly Egan's basset hound Shagnasty. Valhalla Rising (10)
hiramyaegar - October 8, 2004 07:38 PM (GMT)
:o I will never understand how you can find all these.
Helene Noelle - October 8, 2004 08:00 PM (GMT)
:lol: hiramyaegar, every time I open any one of the books, I am amazed that I still find something else! w:
Kellym - October 8, 2004 10:29 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Helene Noelle @ Oct 8 2004, 08:19 PM) |
kellym,
Don't forget that Juan Cabrillo was disguised as Smith in Flood Tide (15)! |
:o I forgot about that!
Knew I could count on you Helene to keep my memory intact ;)
hiramyaegar - October 10, 2004 02:26 PM (GMT)
Would ancient civilizations count as repeating?
Amenes in AF
Romans in Treasure
Phoenicians in Serpent (I think)
Vikings in Sacred Stone
Celtics in TO
Inca in Inca Gold
I'm sure theres more
hiramyaegar - October 10, 2004 02:31 PM (GMT)
Hope I didn't give anything away with the Sacred Stone reference.
Maya in Serpent
Inuit in White Death (they aren't an ancient civilization though)
Vikings in Valhalla Rising
Trojans (or Greeks <_< ) in Trojan Odyssey
Mostly Heep - October 14, 2004 01:16 AM (GMT)
Atlantis Found
Elsie Wolf-233
Elsie Yeager- 150
Essex- VII Pacific Vortex
Essex- 167 Night Probe
Essex,John- 49 Night Probe
Essex,Richard-# Night Probe
Bascom,Willard-466 Shock Wave
Bascom-265 Raise the Titanic
Bascom,Joe-198 Atalntis Found
Helene Noelle - October 14, 2004 01:43 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (hiramyaegar @ Oct 10 2004, 02:26 PM) |
Would ancient civilizations count as repeating?
Amenes in AF Romans in Treasure Phoenicians in Serpent (I think) Vikings in Sacred Stone Celtics in TO Inca in Inca Gold
I'm sure theres more |
Yes! th:
Celtic Druids in Blue Gold
Minoans (The Fauchard Ancestry) in Lost City
Helene Noelle - October 14, 2004 01:48 PM (GMT)
Eric and Kurt
Erich and Kurt Heibert, brothers. The Mediterranean Caper (17)
Eric Wolf, Kurt Wolf's son. Atlantis Found (22)
Helene Noelle - October 14, 2004 01:54 PM (GMT)
Maxine "Max" Rafferty and Hiram Lusana in Vixen 03
Hiram Yaeger is introduced in Deep Six, and his computer "Max" is introduced in Flood Tide.
Helene Noelle - October 14, 2004 01:57 PM (GMT)
Disguises:
Foss Gly in Night Probe impersonates Henri Villon: murders Guerrier (33), sleeps with Danielle] (34), meets with Charles Sarveux (67), and confronts Henri Villon (77).
Suleiman Aziz Ammar impersonates Captain Dale Lemke (1), (3). He then disguises himself as Capt. Oliver Collins (34) on Lady Flamborough in Treasure.
Sapper - October 15, 2004 03:37 PM (GMT)
Does this count as disguises?
Guzman plays Lars Hansen, Stockholms helmsman (Serpent)
hiramyaegar - October 15, 2004 07:58 PM (GMT)
Openings in Greenland: Treasure and Sacred Stone
Russia:
Deep Six
Cyclops
Raise the Titanic
Fire Ice
Helene Noelle - October 15, 2004 09:44 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Sapper @ Oct 15 2004, 03:37 PM) |
Does this count as disguises?
Guzman plays Lars Hansen, Stockholms helmsman (Serpent) |
th:
Helene Noelle - October 15, 2004 09:45 PM (GMT)
Lt. Pavel Marganin is Harry Kokkoski, a CIA agent. Born in Newark, New Jersey, he is disguised to look like the real Marganin. Raise the Titanic! (73)
Helene Noelle - October 15, 2004 09:47 PM (GMT)
Sleepers:
Captain Orl Cinana is on Delphi's payroll. Pacific Vortex (17)
Captain Darius is on Von Till's payroll. The Mediterranean Caper (17)
Lt. Pavel Marganin is Harry Kokkoski, a CIA agent. Born in Newark, New Jersey, he is disguised to look like the real Marganin. Raise the Titanic! (73)
Roy Orita works for Hideki Suma in Dragon (35)
George Furuwaka unwittingly works for Hideki Suma. Dragon (19, 34)
Josh Nogami, a British agent, infiltrates Dragon Center posing as a medical doctor. Dragon (48, 50, 54)
Helene Noelle - October 15, 2004 09:52 PM (GMT)
Sub picks up an unusual sound:
Jungle Telegraph - SOS from the Titanic. Raise the Titanic! (70)
"Minnie the Mermaid". Dragon (11, 15)