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Trigger - June 27, 2004 07:52 PM (GMT)
Pittsburgh-

Pittsburgh Penguins are out... literally they are out.. out of breathe after Penguins press conference. Were shocked.. We dont know what to type.. He's a quote

"I'm resigning"

Shocking news...

Pittsburgh Penguins GM Jan Lapiolahti has stepped down as GM of the team. This shocked the CTCHL community and quickly raised the question why? Because early exit in playoffs?

"That is just one of several reasons I dont want to go into. I feel I have nothing left to give to the team. It's time to move elsewhere. I love this team and I put many years into building this team and I hate to leave them but I feel this is the right thing to do."

Right after the annoucement several players from the team came roaming into the conference non of them knowing this was going to happen. Captain Mike Modano was the first to say "Say it aint so" Todd Bertuzzi was so mad he grabbed the first Devils player he saw and started to behead them.

No words can be found..

Just in... Two Pittsburgh Penguins have committed suicide.. More to follow..

Trigger.. over and out...

K-Mac - June 27, 2004 07:55 PM (GMT)
miss you already.. keep in touch jan!! hope u change ur mind

Nashville - June 27, 2004 08:28 PM (GMT)
a big loss..take care Jan

Mathias - June 27, 2004 09:09 PM (GMT)
Well, there goes the trading in the CTCHL :)

Greg - June 27, 2004 09:13 PM (GMT)
Trigger probably agreed to quit the league if his team dropped out of the playoffs as part of some side deal in a big trade he made. The trading finally got to him :D

Devils GM - June 27, 2004 09:25 PM (GMT)
And its all my fault guys.............sorry :(

Thank God Bertuzzi grabbed Richard Park to beat up and not a starter!!!!! ;)

Avs Gm/COMMISh - June 27, 2004 10:16 PM (GMT)
Gee this is a shocker.............NOT

Trigger - June 27, 2004 11:10 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Avs Gm/COMMISh @ Jun 27 2004, 05:16 PM)
Gee this is a shocker.............NOT

Ah.. there's the warm slap on the ass :lol:

Brian - June 27, 2004 11:11 PM (GMT)
Another original gone. Now there will be 75% less trades in the CTCHL.

NYIslanders GM - June 27, 2004 11:42 PM (GMT)
So long Trigger, enjoy the ride off into the sunset!!!

Giddee Up Cowboy!!!!

BruinsGM - June 28, 2004 12:08 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Avs Gm/COMMISh @ Jun 27 2004, 05:16 PM)
Gee this is a shocker.............NOT

C'mon we don't need that.

Wild GM - June 28, 2004 12:30 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (BruinsGM @ Jun 27 2004, 07:08 PM)
QUOTE (Avs Gm/COMMISh @ Jun 27 2004, 05:16 PM)
Gee this is a shocker.............NOT

C'mon we don't need that.

I'm pretty sure most of us already knew this was coming, it was just a matter of when.

It was clear Jan wasn't the usual ol' Trigger and it was quite predictable this would happen

Seeya Jan, you'll be missed

Blues GM - June 28, 2004 01:14 AM (GMT)
Sorry to see you go Jan.............I think my first ever trade in this league was with you! Your a damn good GM and I will miss talking trade with you. I really don't know why you are deciding to leave, but i'm sure you have your reasons. Maybe take over another team that really stinks and you will have no choice but to trade :)

Ottawa Gm - June 28, 2004 01:42 AM (GMT)
See you trigger...be cool!

Mathias - June 28, 2004 02:13 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Blues GM @ Jun 27 2004, 08:14 PM)
Maybe take over another team that really stinks and you will have no choice but to trade :)

What, are you also leaving ;)

Blues GM - June 28, 2004 07:11 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Mathias @ Jun 27 2004, 09:13 PM)
What, are you also leaving ;)

No Mattias..............I don't quit on my team ;)

Trigger - June 28, 2004 09:29 AM (GMT)
I didnt quit because of my team.. That wasnt the problem

Avs Gm/COMMISh - June 28, 2004 12:55 PM (GMT)
He quit because of me pretty much! My lack of simming the screwed up playoffs and because his team went out in the first round.

Poor Poor Trigger.....

Dont let the door hit you on the ass on the way out!

Pretty lame reason if you ask me! :angry:

Trigger - June 28, 2004 03:53 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Avs Gm/COMMISh @ Jun 28 2004, 07:55 AM)
He quit because of me pretty much!  My lack of simming the screwed up playoffs and because his team went out in the first round.

Poor Poor Trigger.....

Dont let the door hit you on the ass on the way out!

Pretty lame reason if you ask me! :angry:

LOL.. I didnt quit because my team got knocked out.. I've been mulling this desicion for a year now.. Just dont have the interest for 2 more months of playoffs and a year of off season before another season that takes longer than an NHL season.. Unfilled promises.. badly managment.. I mean without Mathias, Greg and more last season the league would have totally died but they saved it and got no control even tho they kept it alive.. All I wanted was daily sims.. or atleast every 2nd day or atleast weekly sims.. Just fed up.. I couldnt care less about dropping out in the playoffs.. I live to trade not to win cups.. you all know it =) I just love to build teams... :angry: :angry:

Avs Gm/COMMISh - June 28, 2004 05:22 PM (GMT)
well i guess thats the difference between you and I trigger I give people the benefit of the doubt. Another difference between me and you is I am 32 years old, what are you 20? When you work in the real world for more then a year or 2 then come talk to me!

All my promises were always sincere, everything I ever promised was a genuine promise. Never was a promise I made was empty...never! I may not have delivered on everything I may have ever said I wanted to do. Some of that I put squarly on my own shoulders. However some or should I say a lot of that was me being a victim of circumstance. If you ever worked or lived in the real world instead of this world we call fantasy land then maybe you would have a clue as to what transpired in my life over the last 2 years.

Do I owe credit to Mathias or Greg or Jason or anyone else that has helped along the way absolutely. I have always given credit where credit is due. These guys have kept this league going since day 1. However I set up the league that way knowing I was limited in what I could do from day friggin 1. However I'd say 85% of things that were done with this league were my ideas and then I in turn passed on the responsability to those individuals who I knew could do the job. A league cant have 30 commishes, it just doesnt work that way.

There is one responsability that I refused and still refuse to do. And thats give the files to have someone else sim. More on this in a bit.

If you had any idea trigger of what my life was like over the last 2 years you'd know that I went through the worst time in my life ever!!!!!! :(

Do we all have adversity in our lives everyday? Absolutely. Am I asking you to feel sorry for me? No. Am I asking you to show some compassion here...absolutely. Did I want to see you quit? No.

Let me just give you a snippet (spelling) of what my life was like over the last 2 years.
here goes....
Working the best job of my life, make 60K a year. Finally was ready to move out of my parents house. Had money saved, just got a new car. However, with that car came making payments monthly. In the process 9/11 happens, within a month and a half I get layed off from my job. It took me 2 and 1/2 years to finally land a job. 2 and 1/2 years. Thats a long time dude! In that 2 and 1/2 years I was clinically depressed. I would be up until 5am playing video games for at least the first 6 mos, then sleep til 3pm, get up shower, then hop back on the computer. I didnt care about anything. It was a great escape from what reality was! Had you been in NY and witnessed what I witnessed you wouldn't know how to feel about life in general. So now with 9/11 and losing friends in the buildings not to mention that I lost my job. After about 6 mos when unemployement ended I had to find a job, I got the shittiest 2 jobs I have ever had. Barely making 20K a year. Enough however to delay paying my bills. So here I am driving around in my new car making payments on that, but not being able to do anything else because I didnt have the money. Living at home with my parents at the age of 30. Embarrassed by that. Having family ask me every other day whether I found something? Nobody understanding why a guy with my background and skills couldnt land a job. You know how hard it is to listen to people remind you what your trying to forget because you yourself cant understand it either. I took a teachers test so that I could possibly teach just so I had something. And let me use the word despise when it comes to the thought of ever being a teacher. Then on top of that my step father starts to use my cpu for freelance jobs he is doing on the side. Which then limited my time on my computer. In addition I'd get on my cpu at like almost midnight most nights. But now I have 2 crap jobs im working and im super tired, so who wants to wait up til midnight just to check emails and then sim and then update the front page, which all of this is time consuming. Then on top of all that I still have to look for a job daily. So now you see why sims always came second. On top of this I was clinically depressed. I had nightmares about 9/11 and me dieing and all kinds of shit. Dude, when I tell you that my life was the worst it had ever been. I truly mean that.

So when people say life comes first....maybe you will have some what of an idea or clue as to what Life really means. The sad part is this is only a snippet of what went on. There are so many other things that I refuse to tell anyone that went on during that time.

However you state that the reason why the league lived was due to them. I beg to differ. I refused to let the league die and that was evident by the fact I communicated with people daily to let them know it wouldnt. Did I expect that this would go on as long as it did? no way in hell. However I am working on restoring the league to what it once was. Did those people help. Absolutely. However what you dont know is I spoke to those people daily to let them know what was going on and also communicate to you guys when I couldnt.

So trigger, you can stay or leave if you so choose. But before you call me out on shit you have no fucking clue on...I suggest you don't open your mouth and maybe way deep down inside find some compassion. But you probably wont ever realize that until your about my age with the responsabilities of life that some of us older gms have today!

Your notorius for ripping me a new asshole on the messageboards. Its not shocking you'd open your mouth once again. Its typical you.

Dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

FYI as a GM you will be missed. As a friend....apparently your not as good a friend as I thought you were!

Trigger - June 28, 2004 07:32 PM (GMT)
Only beef.. Simming..

Have I ever complained about anything else? Just dont get.. what's so difficult handing over the files to some1 with time to sim.. I know responsiblities.. but geezuz.. the only thing i've suggested is handing over the simming.. is that wrong to do? now I'm suddenly here on trial..

we all know what the only beef here is with you.. and Im not attacking you.. just telling the facts.. you want us to treat you like a king and not voice our opinions unless you ask for them..

Mighty Ducks - June 28, 2004 07:48 PM (GMT)
Ok, ok , ok.......everyone ease of our man Trigger. He has spent TONS of time on this league and we should all thank him for that. If he quit because he hated all our guts thats fine but we would still have to thank him for at least putting so much time into the league (even though we know thats not why he quit).

Now yes Scott had a tough time and I am very glad you got through it. The past week has been going much better and I think we all realize that.

But lets not attack him for quitting. He has a fair point. And ANYONE and I mean ANYONE who cuts him down for it is just plain wrong. So I would like to say thanks trigger, and good luck in whatever you plan next. Lets keep the activity rolling. Some great story lines happening in the playoffs right now and its fun to watch!

Mathias - June 28, 2004 09:04 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Blues GM @ Jun 28 2004, 02:11 AM)
QUOTE (Mathias @ Jun 27 2004, 09:13 PM)
What, are you also leaving  ;)

No Mattias..............I don't quit on my team ;)

Well, quiting on once team is a privilige for us that have won the cup :P

Trigger - June 28, 2004 10:22 PM (GMT)
Just wanted to add..

Why I always "bitched" as Scott would say about the simming and letting some1 else do it.. well.. as you said your life is so busy why not give it to some1 with more spare time.. it would still be your league.. only thing theyd do was update trades, input lines, sim and upload them and then the files could be uploaded to the same server too so you could at anytime you want do them yourself.. it would be a load off your back.. dont understand why you attacked me.. because I voiced my opinion???

Blues GM - June 28, 2004 11:45 PM (GMT)
Jan, I know what your saying and I was one of those guys getting very tired of the once per week updates, but Scott did have a lot of stuff going on and I can imagine what that was like..............my life has gotten crazy the last 2 or 3 weeks and that is why I haven't really been posting as much. Things happen that one can't control.
Now Scott has said a week ago that the league would be back on track and thus far IMO he is keeping his word now, and really the league has gotten much better since he actually got a job again. So I would say give Scott the chance to make things better as he has shown before that when he is on top of things this league FUCKING RULES!

If I had it my way............
Scott stays this active and we have the shortest offseason in CTCHL history.
Maybe we pick up the pace a bit and not go EXACTLY the pace of the NHL.
Trigger stays on but with a new team :)
Mattias and Greg come back to the CTCHL but in the West so my new look Blues can beat thier asses down :)

I mean c'mon guys this is for fun............we are all supposed to be friends here and I do consider many of you just that.................lets stop bitching and get this league back to where it was 2 years ago! That can only happen with teamwork.

Greg - June 29, 2004 12:09 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Blues GM @ Jun 28 2004, 04:45 PM)
Mattias and Greg come back to the CTCHL but in the West so my new look Blues can beat thier asses down :)

As much as I would love to crush your team Ray, I will not be coming back :lol:

We are all friends here for the most part (when I was in the league) and thats the nice thing about it, and thats what makes it fun.

I left and gave up a team that I spent hours upon hours building over 3-4 years, giving it up was not easy and not an easy decision but there is no looking back for me.

Blues GM - June 29, 2004 12:30 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Greg @ Jun 28 2004, 07:09 PM)
As much as I would love to crush your team Ray, I will not be coming back :lol:

We are all friends here for the most part (when I was in the league) and thats the nice thing about it, and thats what makes it fun.

I left and gave up a team that I spent hours upon hours building over 3-4 years, giving it up was not easy and not an easy decision but there is no looking back for me.

Wussy!

Avs Gm/COMMISh - June 29, 2004 01:35 AM (GMT)
Trigger you are way off base and James you have no right to make any kind of take it easy on trigger comments. You dont think That I love having him in this league? I do. I considered him a friend. However since your not here that long, and you dont know a lot of things trigger has said about me on these boards constantly ripping me. You really dont have a right to defend him as you are not here that long nor did you know about those posts. So I dont think its fair to take sides, nor am I asking you to. My message was simply stated to him.

Do I want these guys to quit? NO. Do I want trigger to quit? No.

Trigger my reasoning for not handing off the files. There are multiple and I finally will tell everyone why because I am tired of being attacked for not giving up the reigns.

Here is my list:

1. I knew if I had given up the files for other guys to sim, this league would have folded because it would have gotten to the point where since I didnt have the files I wouldnt care. Thus losing my league. And something I worked my ass off buiilding would have gone by the way side. Not because nobody could be trusted but because I would have lost interest. And for me I worked hard for this league to succeed and be one of the best. I didnt want to see that happen.

2. I enjoy simming and updating. I like being creative on the front page. I enjoy it, and I hope you guys do. The home page is important. I see a lot of dormant leagues that dont have that stuff and leagues die.

3. I have this fear if I give out my files that someone will force me out some how.

4. And lastly to some degree I am a control freak.


So thats my reasons

Mathias - June 29, 2004 01:43 AM (GMT)
5. Scott is a Rangers fan.


Dosen't have anything to do with this. But come on, he is a rangers fan....

Mathias - June 29, 2004 01:44 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Blues GM @ Jun 28 2004, 06:45 PM)
Mattias and Greg come back to the CTCHL but in the West so my new look Blues can beat thier asses down :)

Well, I wrote my demands for a return in a thread a couple months ago. They where not fullfilled so I cannot return :P

Oilers_GM - June 29, 2004 02:26 AM (GMT)
Can't we all get along?

Jan blessings on all you do.

Scott your doing a great job now, keep it up!

redwings gm - June 29, 2004 02:38 AM (GMT)
I understand what Scott went through. Things got tough around this country for a lot of people wo went and are going through things like Scott and I feel for them all. So I have no complaints about what Scott had to do Some things are just more important then going on the computer or fantasy hockey..

My life has been a little crazy as well recently and my computer time has been to pop on for a minute or two.

Best of Luck Trigger!

Mighty Ducks - June 29, 2004 05:32 AM (GMT)
QUOTE
Trigger you are way off base and James you have no right to make any kind of take it easy on trigger comments. You dont think That I love having him in this league? I do. I considered him a friend. However since your not here that long, and you dont know a lot of things trigger has said about me on these boards constantly ripping me. You really dont have a right to defend him as you are not here that long nor did you know about those posts. So I dont think its fair to take sides, nor am I asking you to. My message was simply stated to him.


Well I have been here for 1 year. In my opinion that is long enough to have an opinion as to whats going on RIGHT NOW. And I still stand by him. I agreed with what he said simple as that. I dont know what he said to you over a year ago that still bothers you but it should be under the bridge by now.

Why do I keep getting heat HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

But like I said the last while there has been a major turn around and Im happy.




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