I've long since though that this RP needed a OOC thread, so... *drum rolls* I created one.

First and foremost
About this Roleplay
Time Period~ Mid-Fourth Age
Setting at this Period~ Middle-earth is inhabited mostly by men, and scattered Dwarves. Only one known Elven kingdom exists, Órelindë, whose people are distantly akin to the Moriquendi. Sauron and the evils he has caused have long since been vanquished. The line of Kings has endured since the ending of the Third Age, and no evident evils have been abroad for hundreds of years...
Synopsis~ Two companions with a connected past go in search of long sundered kin.
Last thing... you are welcome to join if you wish :) Just post.
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Becky: Ok, first up, the Dúnedain. If I've understood the books properly, they no longer protect the lands. They've reclaimed the line that was theirs and in all likelihood now dwell in the court of the King.

The thing I was wondering about most is... where are they headed? The men can't wander aimlessly into nowhere. They need a destination. I'm mad when it comes to detail ^^ Have you thought about where Lord Galenon has lived all these years, whether Orva is still with him?
I was thinking either along the lines of Gondor, where they are royalty, hence the title 'Lord', or a remote town/ village where they are poor peasants living in hiding from... I don't know. What do you think?

Awwh! I wish I could join. >______________< Oh well. I've too many characters as is. Unlesssssss......

Bwahaha. I've kind of got this 'thing' for Varsis' brother, Phaedrus. -quirks an eyebrow- I dunno, he wasn't intentionally meant to stick, but somehow he keeps hitting me over the head, wanting to be more. :P

I know nothing about Phaedrus except the two random times you've mentioned him 8-) If you wanted him to come in I guess you could... Though me, planning it out in my head (as I always do when a RP starts getting to me) was thinking it to be a kind of brother-sister family reunion thing :) I mean, Tiwele's never really found her mother has she? She's going to find her in this RP, eventually...

I even got the idea of how the ending would turn out- She meets that lover of hers again, then there's the kiss ;) (You know, the one that always happens at the end of a story) I still dont know whether it's going to be Varsis or Almárean though, depending on whether Varsis dies along with Erelith when they fight Meren earlier, because if he does, he won't be popping up again.

The other day I thought how this would make, the peerfect movie ^^ heheh. Part 1- Amon Lanc, Part 2- Abandoned Ways :) *Gets kinda excited for no reason*

Ok, I'll shut up... where were we?

Yeahhh. The only thing Varsis is gonna pop up is daisies. :D

I WISH we could do a movie, it would be the best thing ever. ;) GOD I WOULD LOVE BEING ERELITH. -dies all over again- It would be beyond awesome.

Edit: Any ideas on how to put Phaedrus in the RP? :D

Edit: I posted in Abandoned Ways - I hope you don't mind. I encouraged Bree to join as well. {Haha she has a thing for Phaedrus...so convincing her wasn't all that hard. XD} Phaedrus is searching out for Laustic, and Bree to find the fate of her own parents {who they were and such} ..{I told her to bring popcorn when Phaedrus gets his bitch-slap by Laustic.} ...but we were thinking on your idea about needing 'places to go' instead of it being a wild goose chase really, and thought why not look it up in records? {Minas Tirith} for where people have gone to? I dunno. It seemed logical at the time, then we can all run off on a wild-goose chase. Haha.

Also: Phaedrus left during the time of Amon Lanc {he will ride with the company south but head into exile on his own} so he will have no word of Varsis' death, or what ending met his own house. I thought it was particularly sad. :(

Edit Again: Made a Map of the path of Amon Lanc, and Phaedrus' Exile.
Click HERE for the map. It's large, :D

I hope you don't mind me posting twice, but this is just so you know where Phaedrus is presently in the Role-play. Right now, I based him in the Shire. He's making his way towards Minas Tirith to find records of his kin and also his love - basically wants to know what happened to everyone. I think I am going to base his twin brothers in Minas Tirith {though I am not definite on that yet}, having a guise of men. Hah. They will have cut their hair relatively short {though enough to keep their ears hidden}. I think I am going to make them act alot more 'mortal' as well. It might prove interesting, because Phaedrus totally won't recognize them, but they will him. Hah! It would be more interesting to have them go along with our journey the entire time, and pretend they don't know him to wait and see if he would catch on. {obviously they would lie about their names, some amusing trickery to it all, kind of like a riddle to see if he would figure the meanings.}

You also might find this interesting, it's a guide to the uses and principles of magic in lord of the rings, how mortal's use it and how it is used with references to the book as well. I think it might be safe to say there are 'magical' properties to songs, but I wouldn't call them a bard of any sort. If you remember the hall after dinner, was it? {at rivendell} one of the songs made them kind of 'dream' of some wonderful images. Also, before I had seen this I thought I should note I had planned on making Phaedrus skilled in crafting {weaponry, armor and such} and designing it too. :P Hey, what else would you do in exile? hah. Might as well get something out of it while you're at it.

OHH. Also! I found a Black Speech Dictionary online. I do not know how accurate it might be, but it's worth a look. I think it will be fun to have Erelith get mad and start screaming at Varsis in the language. ;) Hah. I bet Gandalf would shudder in the corner at the words.

(I hope it doesnt do the word-to-word english translation thing >.<) I've never found a black speech dictionary, really, before O.o Heheh, I completely forgot Gandalf was going to be there ;) ...

That map made me stare for a while before I figured out the direction Phaedrus was travelling in XD It would do good with arrows, but I suppose it's just me being slow ^^

Awesome... I can't wait to see what these infamous twin brothers are like ^_^ The ideas I have of the magic are the powers the Maiar and Valar have, and the Elves with their earthly magic (*is reminded of the mention of 'elf magic' in Lorien*), including their songs, yup ^^ I think the language of the Elves are pretty powerful in themselves anyway =)

Lol, well, not only will they sing songs, but probably drive their brother insane at the same time with all the singing. XD I could see it now, Phaedrus festering in some corner trying not to implode while the twins sing some silly song. There's also going to be a 'Phaedrus song' which should be quite amusing. It was inspired off an actual friend we used to sing it to. Well, not that there were any verses really. Every time she'd move in the slightest bit we'd sing about it. Needless to say it drove her nuts every single time.

Bree is planning on helping the twins with that. XD

Oh, and my only issue with 'bard-like-singing' would be I don't know how to improvise that. I had a bard in EverQuest and she did decently powerful songs. Well, not really since she wasn't high level but she had some songs I don't think Lord of the Rings would have. :P I'll make a little list and let me know if you think any would pass. Oh, and just so you know every song I list here, needs some kind of instrument. Some use drums, lutes, or mandolins. Those are most common to get the best effective song. If you can’t handle holding it while in battle the effectiveness drops significantly.

Battle Chant - One of the first songs I got, it increased the strength/defense in battle.

Chords of Dissonance - This is called an 'Area Effect' song. The clashing notes cause any creature nearby to take damage, and then chase after you for it. ;) Hah, not good when you're alone preferably, but it's really amusing to mass kill with that song. If you keep playing it for long enough the health of every creature that is chasing you keeps going down. I love loop holes. ^__^ Of course, you had to run a lot, but this was no problem if you learn how to twist in two songs at once {a bit hard, if you wanted to run more effectively I had to keep switching the notes to my song, 'twisting notes' to kind of make your own song.}

Jaxan's Jig o' Vigor - A simple jig which fills the group with stamina/raises their energy and renews spirit.

Selo's Accelerando - One of the most effective songs Bard's get. It gives you and your group the ability to outrun many creatures, causing you to be 'light on your feet.' The only down was this never worked in caves/indoors. I wonder why? {I never did figure that out.} People used to pay Bards in the game to ‘transport’ them from one part of the world to another, when they couldn’t find a druid to teleport them. {Druids get spells that port you from different places.} Think of it as a ‘Bard Taxi’, hah.

Hymn of Restoration - Encourages the health of your group, causing you and your group to need to rest and recover less.

Anthem De Arms - Encourages your group's arms to hasten in battle, granting them strength when weary, and keeping their spirits up.

Magical Monologue - Causes Magical creatures, who might otherwise not be affected by beating them over the head with a sword, lowers their defense to effectively cause better damage.

Elemental Rhythms - Increases your ability to not be affected by fire or ice, etc. {I bet that would come in handy, winter.}

Kelin's Lucid Lament - Lull's creatures into an enchanted sleep when playing a lute. The downside is you cannot break from singing/playing otherwise they will wake up and be extremely angry at you. ;) I know from experience and dying, a lot. Hah. Hey, I'd be pissed too if someone stuck me into an enchanted sleep. I mentioned this though, because I believe I did read something about enchanted sleep in Lord of the Rings.

Purifying Rhythms - Purifies/prevents poisoned attacks {which actually can happen in Lord of the Rings, I've read somewhere.} to slow their damage. Good against Necromancers {undead} who focus on these kind of casts.

Brusco's Boastful Bellow - A loud song I'd bet, this causes your enemy to be disrupted when they chant their own cast against you so they have to start from the beginning again. {Perhaps confuses them somehow?}

Song of Sustenance - Replenishes the hunger of your group until you can find real food. {Your strength and such drops significantly if you have no food in your pack.}

Tarew's Aquatic Ayre - Grants you limited breath under the water, good for saving drowning group members. ;) {Haha, which has happened to me. God, I have a permanent scarring of it now, enclosed spaces. That's a bit sad, but the game gets very 'real' sometimes.} You need a wind instrument for this to work.

Largo's Melodic Binding - Slows the feet of your enemy to grant you more time to run away. Hehe, and so they can't run in cowardice when you're about to finish them off. Very painfully annoying, but funny when you play Accelerando, because you can thwart their attempts. This also slows their attack rate, {the rate their hitting other people} I never noticed a difference in this really, but supposedly it does.

Guardian Rhythms - Good against enchanters who try casting, well, enchantments on you. Think of it kind of like the Elemental Rhythms, only against a different form of magic. You need a drum to use this song though.

Shauri's Sonorous Clouding - A very fun song to play. It lets your group go undetected by most creatures, as if you might not even be there. Most unfortunately this doesn't work against necromancers and the undead. More so against random Orcs and other creatures. {Yes there are Orcs in EverQuest. ;)} Another down to this is your group needs to stay close to you in order for it to work; the range on this song isn't incredibly good.

Solon's Bewitching Bravura - Charms any creature of your target {even yourself if you target it as such! Haha. Many bards did this, which was VERY funny. We'd be in battle and instead of charming the monster they will have done it to themselves. In which, all they can do is stand there like a statue. Doh.} Anyways, it charms creatures so they kind of stand there and don't attack you. You can also charm them to attack their own kind. {Varsis and I caused a tiger and bunny to attack each other once. Haha. Very amusing.} Oh, I almost forgot – some creatures have a high resistance for this song to work, and if they do resist it….one word: Run.

Mystic Shielding - Shields your group from most magical forms of attacks. Only works for like, a minute though, enough to grant you escape from tight situations.

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For the most part, that’s pretty much all the songs Bard’s get that are useful. I thought I would just run them by you to see if any sounded Lord of the Rings-ish to you. If you look at the other thread I posted about Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows of Angmar, you can read that they stuck clearly to the book with creating classes. Instead of calling them Bards, {though they had mentioned it in one article} it is mentioned as a 'Minstrel'.

With song and tale, a Minstrel brings hope to places thick with gloom. He can inspire those with desperate minds and heavy hearts to great deeds. In battle, he can turn the tide with songs that strengthen his allies and dirges which strike fear into the hearts of his enemies.

The Minstrel will be the class of choice for players who want to aid their friends, inspiring them to keep going through the darkest of times. With a vast repertoire of tales both fair and foul, a Minstrel restores the morale of his fellows, as well as causing his enemies to despair. Though able to wield weapons, he prefers to let his words, rather than his sword, speak for him. A Minstrel's style of combat is based on maintaining hope no matter what the odds.

-Perhaps some kind of...strengthening song?
-As for the 'fear into the hearts of his enemies' I've no ideas really. We had a 'fear song' in the game, but ...yeah...I dunno. {the song makes the enemy turn and run against his or her will...Erelith had this ability too, which was most amusing against enemies. I would 'fear' them and constantly make them run away every time they'd start pestering me with a sword.}
-'enemies to despair' ..any ideas there?

-I think I will make the twins have swords in regards to the last few words, but rarely use them. In their stead I will put a lute/mandolin or something, if that's alright by you?

If you look at the article I found on the Principles of Tolkien's Magic with the above in mind, maybe we can think of something? I don't want to go outside the lines of Tolkien-ness.

*Gapes* Honestly, I've never really thought about all the different types of magic at work in Middle-earth before >.< It's interesting ;)
From those songs, I'd say the Battle Chant, Jaxan's Jig o' Vigor, (If Selo's Accelerando were possible, they would all have made it across Caradhras =) ), Anthem De Arms, Kelin's Lucid Lament, Purifying Rhythms and Brusco's Boastful Bellow might fit into our scenario...

Some of the others are kind of over the top, if you get what I mean. We could always rely on some 'magical' instruments (like some piece of jewellry... not unrare ;) or, I don't know, a musical instrument-- I know Eru and the Valar created things with the magic of their music ^^) to do some of the more 'impossible' ones if we really wanted to... but not without any-- I doubt we'd be able to do things like charm creatures and make them attack whoever you want. That's crazy in Tolkien terms XD I'd describe Middle-earth magic as more earthly, natural and organic :) Gandalf couldn't even make a path in the snow without firewood O.o But you know, if we had a staff of some sort, we could create fire (when there is stuff available) and scare enemies away like the Balrog incident... wait, that doesn't involve music does it? *frowns*

I like to use the word 'minstrel' instead actually =) The word Bard just strikes me as plain confusing at first. It's like a couple of nanoseconds reaction time for me to figure out the word, because the first thing I get when I see the word is that guy in 'the Hobbit' who shoots Smaug down O.o I'm more used to 'minstrels', though they kinda become associated with little things that sing with harps and have wings once in a while :oddlook:

I'MMA GON' JOIN! :)
Actually, I just posted so yeah. Hee!
:wub:

Phaeddy + Bree = cute.

The End.

Awww =)
Waa...... >.<
*Blank blink*
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Yay! Nice to have you join, Bree ^^
I like that song by the Sedryn twins Ere' *nods*. It's entertaining (and what does Phaedrus say to it?)... Couldn't resist commenting ^^

PS. I LOVE the character bios :) :) <3

You will have to wait and see, my friend. ^__________^

Haha. It probably won't be a pretty set of words, and the twins will be running for their lives from their big brother. ;D

Haha, why? The twins teasing and insulting poor ickle Phaedrus again? (You almost make me feel sorry for him >.<) Waittaa... Phaedrus + Bree = ... *pause*... Ah, I'm going to look forward to this ;)

Haha I keep calling Phaedrus either: 'Phaeddy' {as Bree likes it} or 'lover-boy' because he ....yeah. We have this whole joke going about how he's just an elf-sl*t for having been in bed with someone already. Hmm. Let me see if I can pull up the idea we had going.

{On the Phaedrus & Bree pairing}
Erastus: You know...that's like our sister. {Referring to how Varsis was close to her}
Aramaes: ...and your mouth-kissing with her!
Phaedrus: At least I have kissed before.
{The Twins look as if they're stumbling for words.}
Erastus: We have too!
{Phaedrus just gives an unbelieving look at his brothers.}
Phaedrus: ...mother doesn't count.
Aramaes: ...drats!

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Ahaha. I love family sometimes. Those twins are hell. ;D Anyways, I felt the need to note that Bree and I updated on Inkies, but not here. {Abandoned Ways}. Nothing important really, it's part of Bree & Phaedrus' plotline, they haven't run into Tiwele, so it's not like it's a big deal.

Ok, I'll get around to having a read of that... or you could post em here too to make it easier ^^ Den I won't have to get confused over the storylines O.O
Heheh, I think the twins are kinda cute with all their mischief. They make me laugh ^^

I posted more than you put up, but it's alright. I had been thinking of changing the ending a bit to my last post. Too much too soon. ;)

I think we should work on finishing Amon Lanc first, but that we can continue easily with Abandoned Ways {at least I can} since mostly my characters have nothing to do with the one's past. I shouldn't be touching on much of what happened in Amon Lanc anyways, only one character provided really has a tie with it yet, but even then, for most of it - the subject shouldn't come up.

Haha I can't help but continuously laugh at this:

{On the Phaedrus & Bree pairing}
Erastus: You know...that's like our sister. {Referring to how Varsis was close to her}
Aramaes: ...and your mouth-kissing with her!
Phaedrus: At least I have kissed before.
{The Twins look as if they're stumbling for words.}
Erastus: We have too!
{Phaedrus just gives an unbelieving look at his brothers.}
Phaedrus: ...mother doesn't count.
Aramaes: ...drats!

Just because I can see Aramaes {which recently I've realized is properly pronounced 'air-a-my-es' not 'air-a-may-us' or something like that {I forget}. Anyways I can just see one of the twins totally being like 'DRATS!' and giving like a 'awwh crap!' look. XD I totally want to make them wreak havoc on Tiwele when they all meet up. Haha, is that alright with you? {How would she have reacted to a massively terrible chaotic food fight? XD}

Erastus: OW!
Aramaes: ....*whistles nonchalontly and throw another piece of food*
Erastus: Mum, Aramaes is forking food at me again!
Mother: Aramaes, don't hit your brother with food. It's not polite.
Erastus: ...*flings food back for revenge while his mother isn't looking*
Maethas: ...*grins and starts to giggle while smashing his food against everything* {he's young at the time}
Aramaes: Mum, he hit me! {haha even though those two are practically grown at the time}
Mother: Both of you, cut it out. I don't want to see you flinging food across this table at each other.
Erastus & Aramaes: ...*grin and eye their oldest brothers in devlish manners*
{Phaedrus tries to ignore the fact rice was just flung in his eye, wiping it off silently, fuming.}
Mother: What did I tell you just a moment ago?!
Erastus: ....what?
Aramaes: You said 'I don't want to see you flinging food across the table at each other.' *merely gives a proud grin*
{Mother begins to mutter to herself.}
{Erastus whacks Varsis good in the chest with his dessert, letting it drip down a perfectly decent tunic. Aramaes follows with targeting his oldest brother, and Varsis quirks an eyebrow, giving that 'so-you-wanna-mess-with-me' look. He excuses himself from the table nonchalontly, carrying his bowl with him as if he might throw it away. Instead, he makes sure to throw it atop one Erastus' head, moving to lean against the wall with his arms crossed, a bit proudly. Their mother has the 'can-nothing-be-sane-in-this-house' look about her face. Erastus wipes his hands trying to get the gook off his hair. He proceeds to grin at his oldest brother, and throws his feet to a stand.}
Aramaes: Head's up! {Full out throws food at Phaedrus, which hits him straight in the face just as he looks up.}
{Erastus attempts to run after Varsis in a chaotic manner with the food all over his hands trying to catch him and return the favor. Varsis, of course, bolts down a hall.}
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Haha I'm sure you can figure Chaos breaks out after.

*Grins devilishly* You know, those guys are quite entertaining together ;) Heheh, well... just you wait till Tiwele gets in there... We'll never see the end of that chaotic mess XD Oh, but can it be after she and Almarean reunite, though? Then there'd be double the fun ;) I'm not that mean to let Tiwele go and have all the fun with this stuff, while Almarean goes around almost throwing his life away for her... Ok, maybe we're not up to that bit yet ^^
Let's concentrate on Amon Lanc first den ;) Then I'll actually have a clear idea of where I'm going with Abandoned Ways ;)

Haha I have no problem with that too because I can't think of anything to post for Thurinae at the moment - I kind of forgot about her. You know I was thinking though, because she's from an ice-region of Middle-Earth, perhaps I would give her an Elk to 'burden' with her belongings {but I wouldn't think she'd have much} I'm not really sure. It'd be a black or white Elk/Stag or something. I was tired of the same old 'I have a horse' routine.

That might be a nice idea, I never really thought about that, heheh. I'd love for some of the characters to fly on eagles, though ^^ Ooh, brainwave, the Amon Lanc story, it'd be such a boring way to get to Amon Lanc on horseback how about we do the journey in air? Dragons, eagles, you know... That would be an interesting change. Heheh, I used to be all over the fact that with LotR, if Gandalf could just fly to Mount Doom and rescue them, why couldn't the hobbits have flown there in the first place? It would've saved them the trouble ;)

I <3 your Thurinae icon, it's pwetty ^^

I believe the Eagles said it was 'not of their problem, because they soar the air' and so forth. I didn't get that either until I researched into it. To me it makes a bit of sense now. As humans and elves are creatures concerned with the earth, the birds are concerned with matters of the air above it.

Also because of the idea that I would logically come to the conclusion if Frodo and Sam did indeed use Eagles to get to Mount Doom, the Eye would have spotted them a mile away. No doubt about it. {Haha I just got the mental of someone going 'What is it? a bird? ...a plane? No! ...a hobbit!' Hahahaha. Don't even ask. That was totally random.}

It seems likely to me that Sauron would have a similar reaction to a mass of eagles heading straight towards the Mordor, even if they stopped in Gondor. Even just one or two eagles outside of their normal territory would probably arouse his suspicions. Not being a Maia, I can't explain just how he would become aware of them, or stop them for that matter, but Gandalf certainly had a great respect for the Enemy's powers of vision (or spy network, at least). Also, even eagles couldn't get from Rivendell to Mount Doom in a day: there would be plenty of time for the Dark Lord to call out some force to investigate before the eagles got anywhere near their goal. Moreover, if the Wise themselves feared taking the Ring, they would have surely had similar fears about giving it to Gwaihir, who seemed fairly full of himself and thus even more likely to take it. The eagles are seemingly fussy, they only come when they're absolutely needed. Otherwise, the weaker creatures of Middle Earth toss around insults like "unilateral" and "arrogant".

Unfortunately I can't provide any actual references, but that was the best I could to for now. This answer also applies to the use of 'fell beasts' {isn't that what they're called?}

Insightful ;) I actually did think about the fell beasts, but they're evil, ghastly things, so that wouldn't be very pleasant. Oh well, I did quite like the idea of flying, even though it doesn't seem totally possible because of spies...

But we could try every contrivable method... by water... they could go North to the northern wilderlands, travel East by sea and go all the way around till they find the mouth of Anduin that should lead in the general direction of South. Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't have a map of Middle-earth sitting in my head ^^ If that's possible... hm... I mean, the fellowship travelled by boat for quite a distance. Apart from the complication of the extra distance... *pause* We could at least travel part of the way by water.

Another option would be underground tributaries, but I'm going over the top here aren't I? ^^

PS. I got around to actually reading the Bree/Phaedrus/twins stuff. I wub Varsis' lament <3

Which lament? The most recent post I would assume. I still need to finish Thurinae's part, but I'm not exactly sure what I'd make her do at this point. I mean, I do but I don't all at the same time. To journey by water sounds good to me. Bwahah. -evil thoughts conjur in head- {Meren's toying with me again! Make it stoppp. Haha j/k. When I have evil inclinations I blame it on Meren. It's kind of like saying: 'the devil made me do it'.}

'It's all Meren's fault. Meren made me do it!' ;) (I think I meant the last lament, yes) We'll have to figure out a path for them to go by, then ^_^ Somewhere away from all the trouble, so they can't be find. I thought about them heading up North first, but ideas would be good.
Thurinae is making my brain go all jitters... O.o

-chuckles-

I hate to begin to give things away, but let's just say a certain someone will have nerve to want to travel north = forodwaith = thurinae.

Oh wow, and that would be messed up if they did. XD -chuckles evilly and runs away before Atheniel catches her to ask for more hints-

*Demands hints now!*XD Do you by any chance mean Meren is, for some reason unknown to me, hunting Thurinae? Waaaa... It's not like they're related in any way... wait, are they? >.<

And who's this person behind the Varsis mask?? I think there'll be a 20% chance I get it right if I make a random guess (that is, if I've heard of them)...

Hm, that's not a bad thought you've got going there, Atheniel. Meren does die though in Amon Lanc, so he couldn't possibly be hunting her, nor did he know of her. Though, had he...things might have been different. *gives a devilish grin*


{Oh, and in the Greetings thread, yes, she was going on about your character, Tiwele. ;D haha *sing-song* somebody's jealousssssssss. Lol, did you see? I called him a 'weathered Moriquende'. You might wanna pay attention to little things like that, or unless you didn't know Varsis wasn't a ..well, yeah. Not that he does sleep around, but it's not like he's knew to being 'in the sack'. Haha, as it seems his brother isn't either.}

I see, then =S Confusing... The trouble is, this relates to Thurinae's identity how? >.< You're getting me back for keeping you in suspense aren't you? XD
Heheh, it wasn't Varsis' fault really. He just... doesn't control himself. There's something obscure about Varsis that made Tiwele fall for him in the first place... if you've ever noticed the, I suppose you could call them clues, about what she 'sees' in him, erm, it's sort of related to where she casts petals away when leaving her city, very obscurely, therefore her past. So it's not her fault either.
Wait a second... you're not referring to the new Amon Lanc post are you? Because I haven't read it yet. Varsis didn't... you know, did he? ... I should shut up and go read the post shouldn't I?
[Gah, I reckon they're both jealous XD]

This should give things away, more clearly. I feel sad for giving this poem out though, and with the need to explain this is of Thurinae's father. As mentioned, her name - Thurinae Adar means 'Secret Father'. Assume what you will over this, the hour is late and I've not much heart in playing games anymore, for your reaction should be far more satisfying than teasing you.

Child of the Valar
Ageless, tall and fair
Sapphires shine in his eyes
Moonlight dances in his hair.

Be it blade, be it bow
His prowess is known
In battle he rages
Where evil doth roam.

Dwarf, Men and Hobbits
Hold a place in his heart
But such friendships are mortal
Too soon they shall part.

Where shall I start? Shall I start cursing you (!!?!?!?!?!! XD) in every tongue of Elf, Man, Dwarf possible, try to avenge you for all the wrong you have done me (!??), or shall I just say that it was expected because I figured it out, maybe, before you gave me the riddles? It took me a while to realise how much I was completely eluding the obvious O.o Varsis could only be the father, but the mother, I figured, could only be one of two (and you do realise it was ambiguous because both the pendent and the mention of moonlight point towards Tiwele? I believe that was the first thing that ever came into my mind, indeed the first thing I jotted down for her bio when I created her…), but I guess I know the answer to that now don’t I? So, I’m guessing that Thurinae was sent north because of Meren and his intentions? >.<
You needn’t have worried too much about Tiwele’s supposed ‘intentions’, however (She’s not (really) the Dark Elf around here!), but no doubt Erelith’s going to hate her like hell isn’t she? Its funny how, in their supposed war against each other (you could call it that), when one anger is stemmed another looks like it’s about to burst into flame…

AHAHA. I was totally in a fit of giggles when I saw your first line of words. All I could think was 'YES. Atheniel's pissed at me for totally doing this to her! XD' haha I'm terrible, I know. Well, at least you know where Erelith's anger will be backing up over, not only have Varsis and Erelith ...laid with one another, Erelith bore a daughter off him. Sending Thurinae away was due to the curse, and both the fact that she couldn't bear to tell Varsis {and I'm not sure if she will ever be able to, sadly. Not unless someone finds out *nudgenudge*}

The pendant I described was a crest of the Sedryn house and the Morelen line as well. The Raven is from the Morelen's and the Crescent Moon is the Sedryn Family Crest...the runes on the back in elvish have the names of both parents etched in the backside. E.M & V.S.

Haha, so now you know. When making her bio I made sure to give her a good half of both their traits, passing down some that skipped a generation - both her parents might have white hair, but Meren's got black, and a good half of Varsis' brothers have dark hair = Thurinae getting it. She also has her father's eyes, most prominently, as well as his skill in the blade {though not as much because she wasn't trained much in it} more so his ''strength'' really. The lovely nature companions are due to the Morelen side which definitely skipped a few generations. {Maeve Morelen's skill}

Bwah. Now all I can do is sit here and chuckle you know now. I think knowing that will cause me to sleep better tonight. XD. {sadly lmao} Also, Bree knew the entire time. I swore her butt to secrecy though, so I could cackle at leaving you in suspense while I talked to someone over it. Hah.

I <3 you Atheniel. Haha. Everytime I see those first lines of your post above, I can't help but chuckle {which forces me to fandomly giggle for doing that to you.}

You’re eeeeevil (and not just for keeping me in suspense)! *glares* Do you have compassion for poor wickle Tiwele? Think how she’s gunna feel when she finds out! =( She’ll be like ‘I really WILL hate you now!’ Haha, bitch fight ^^ Poor Varsis though, he’ll be thinking, ‘What the-?’ because he has no clue what drastic cause they’re shrieking at each other over. But that was only my musings ;)

Ah… I see I am slightly slow, because I was thinking, ‘black hair… black hair… where the hell does that tie in?’ It’s even worse because I pondered over the possibility of Meren several (million) times, but that was before I figured out who the parents were. It just didn’t connect for the muddled me =S (And to think I could have bribed Bree into telling me…!! Damn.) The combination of Crest and Raven, though, is clever =) So I’m supposed to sit there and have Tiwele tell all this to Thurinae, whilst thinking, ‘Geez, this is nice’ through gritted teeth… Is she supposed to find out in Amon Lanc or here in Abandoned Ways? Because if she already knows, all she’ll be figuring out is, ‘So you’re their daughter…’

Haha, well I enjoy being evil, what can I say? ^^

Even if there was some mention of Thurinae in Amon Lanc, I doubt her actual name would have been mentioned. It would provide possibly more interest if Tiwele had no friggin' clue Ere' had a kid. Bwahah. Abandoned Ways is probably Tiwele's only real clue, so far...though, how can she know for sure? Well, I suppose the EM & VS on the back gives it pretty much away...not to mention, she's so friggin' much like her daddy. ^^ Awwh, haha I dunno why but that is really adorable. When I mentioned in the other poem before about a 'hero returning' that's what I meant as well, hehe. It's kind of like Varsis lives on, sort of..only through his kid. :)

Being of light, so fair of face
Possessing beautiful, deadly grace
Protector of all that is good and true
A loyal friend with eyes of blue
A lilting word to her eager steed
And they're off to do some noble deed
Evil-doers best beware
This warrior with blackened hair
An archer swift, with aim so sure
Her strength is great, her heart is pure
Skilled with bow, and sword, and knives,
Enemies run for their lives
Straight and true the arrows fly
Death descending from the sky
'Til evil, defeated, returns to the shadow
But when darkness returns, so will this hero.

Go poetry ;)
I’m really glad for that, Tiwele not knowing till she ‘Abandoned Ways’ (I prefer it that way *nods*). That way both she and Varsis will have no clue, so they won’t feel so guilty pissing Erelith off just because they’re together ^^
I’ve yet to see just how much Thurinae is like Varsis =) Though at this point in time in ‘Abandoned Ways’, I doubt Tiwele has figured out who Thurinae is yet. The pendent means something to her, but she hasn’t yet figured out why it stirs in her memory so much. Aside from that, meeting Erelith and Varsis’ daughter is probably the last thing for her to expect, so she probably won’t see a random pendent and then see the truth. The initials, well, many people have the same initials ;) I’d prefer it if, say, she and Thurinae got to know each other a little more, and Thurinae says and does things that strongly resemble Varsis… and that will be when Tiwele’s suspicions are finally confirmed. How does that sound?

[Post! =) … in anything and everything (RP-wise)! When exams come up (real soon) I might not find the chance to post, and I won’t survive being left in suspeeense… (you know how much I hate suspense *grins*) Especially when one, I have unwritten flashbacks sitting somewhere in my head for Amon Lanc that I dun wantta loose… and two, for some reason, I woke up yesterday morning (I think I had a dream of some sort I no longer remember) and figured exactly what was gunna happen at the end of Eye of Felucia, heheh. I <3 planning that out as much as I <3 jotting down all the rubbish I do for the ending of Amon Lanc, so I can’t wait to get that RP started… XD]

Hahah. Yes, I do know how much you hate suspense, and that amuses me. ^^

I started my friend off on her rogue-ish character, his name is Navaer, and I fandomly claim him already. :P {haha I was helping with the bio} She was all like 'but what about Varsis?' XDXD ....also, Bree managed to think up a rather amusing nick-name for him. Var-sissy. O__o I told her to try that one out in the RP just so that we can see his reaction to being called a sissy. Haha.

We need something both father and daughter do that are alike, so, any ideas? I know there's always fighting and such, but hmm...it's not like there's much to go around in the fourth age. Thurinae's rather innocent for the most part yet - she's only experianced a bit of battle, not enough to affect her characteristics....yet. Haha...I do also want them to get to know each other a bit more, before Tiwele finds out.

Just the other day I had this dream of Meren vs. Varsis. Haha it had me all hyped up too because those two against each other is definitely something worth watching. It had Varsis coming across this really rocky moria-looking bridge, only more rigid and it was kind of wreathed in mist/fog. Anyways, so he comes out and so does Meren - they stop to 'recognize' each other, while Varsis pulls his scimitars out all fancy {twirls them a bit before he makes a harder grip on them} and then just gives this massive battle-like-cry at Meren and throws himself full force, scimitars and all at him.

I was mad because I woke up, just then. {and didn't get to see them fight}

P.S. I've been stuck on an Amon Lanc post for what would be most characteristic of Varsis to do in that situation. Bree was quite terrible in suggesting he go back to Ere' because if you look at their history, that cursed elf keeps trying to do that. {Player? Haha} I dunno if I should make Varsis kiss Tiwele then or not, haha it's a predicament. {stupid male desires}

Awwh, come on, we all know Varsis (I was gunna say ‘is helplessly in love’, mwahaha) is the sweet and endearing kind ^^ (That’s why we love him ;) )
I’m not sure… what’s completely characteristic of Varsis? Invent something to make him do often, like, I dunno, shift uneasily when he’s uncomfortable, smile mischievously when he knows something others don’t… those are just ideas, I’m entirely sure what Varsis is accustomed to doing. Maybe it’s cos, in real, RP time, Tiwele’s known him for barely two weeks (it’s more five nights, but I figured it’d take them longer to get to the Shire, so now, there are days of untold travelling in between we don’t know about ;) Anything could have happened ^^) Ooh, if you wantta know just one thing Tiwele thinks is characteristic of Varsis… she finds it hard to become angry with him, and he sometimes he says things that make her smile, sometimes regardless of the situation XD
I’ve had dreams about my charrie. I’m almost as bad as you ^^ Yeah, it’s extremely ANNOYING how, just as something exciting starts to happen, you get woken up or something. It’s like the norm with good dreams, and it bugs me. Grrr. That scene might be interesting, though I don’t know where we would get the bridge from…

Nice name, Navaer ;) You know, if he had been a LotR character, I would have asked, you know the Sindarin word for farewell is ‘nevaer’? ^^ But since he’s not supposed to be a LotR character, well… it still sounds inspired by Elvish =) I like to pull random names out of mid-air for this, though (as opposed to me spending an hour just finding the perfect names usually), cos that’s what George Lucas seems to do. Some names are bizarre XD Oh, and speaking of dreams, I dreamt that somebody rose from the dead *grins insanely*… and then I thought, ‘hey, that sounds really good, actually’, so be informed, I shall find a way to make someone rise from the deeeaaad…

"Ooh, if you wantta know just one thing Tiwele thinks is characteristic of Varsis… she finds it hard to become angry with him, and he sometimes he says things that make her smile, sometimes regardless of the situation.."

Hmm. It would seem I've made Varsis very much like he is. Haha, -long sigh-....he does the same things to me in real life. I can't ever get seriously pissed at him because he'll do something five seconds later to have me laughing my butt off. Sometimes, I really hate that. Haha, it's unbelievably frustrating!

Lol, and Navaer - is for LOTR. And yes, I know that Navaer is Sindarin for 'farewell' and such. Jessie picked it out. I've still to get around to looking up Star Wars. Do they have like an online encyclopedia {like the one of arda} maybe I could use?

Sorry it took forever for me to post. I get stuck often with Varsis scenes that have to do with love. I mean - besides the fact I already have issues writing love scenes, and it's Varsis - so take Varsis + love scene = Ere' retardedness.

Lol, I did manage to write a kiss between him and Tiwele though, I'm quite satisfied with it too! ^^ haha but it wasn't in the post. Guess you get to wait.

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...and who are you trying to bring back? ^^ Or is that selective information I will have to wait for?/Payback for keeping you in suspense?

Most logically, it would be either Varsis or Meren. More productively on my thinking Meren would be the one you'd be more likely to bring back. {though both have benefits}

If you brought Varsis back it would conclude quite a number of {good} things. Though I wouldn't understand how this would be possible in the case I do really kill him off, or both of them for that matter. Anything is possible {with magic ;D} though. Hm, so if you brought Varsis back {if they are indeed one of my characters} Thurinae would have the chance to meet Varsis {which would be REALLY interesting, I think} Not to mention with the two of them, God. I wonder - since Thurinae's so much like her father - how enemies would fair against those set of blades?

If it's Meren you'd wanna bring back...well I've only got one thing to say to that: ...you don't know what you're messin' with. ;D

I was under the impression the only time someone was ever brought back to Arda from the Halls of Mandos was the case with Beren and Luthien-- I think. And that was with reason (it’s so long since I’ve read the Silmarillion I’m not sure I remember exactly what that reason was), something about the Valar becoming touched by them and their deeds that Mandos agreed to bring Beren back so that they could be together—for a price (they both become mortal) There’s always a price to everything… So, I was generally under the impression that the Valar don’t agree to bring people back unless there was a really significant reason (Meren, significant? *scoffs* XD), along with some price, and remember, mortality is a gift for Elves (whilst it is the doom, or gift for Men) on many levels, so after living for so long, would it be fair to prolong a life without cause? Especially if those who died died courageously for what they loved? I think we’ll remember them in song (heheh) forever because of Amon Lanc’s dramatic end…

Lol, so, after going off on a whole essay paragraph of a tangent, I’m sorry to disappoint you with along that line of thought… (we both seemed to have become confused with what we were saying across roleplays!) I was talking about Star Wars, so it’s not anyone you know… yet. Hahah. You could say I was motivated by Amon Lanc. In a way. Actually, in a very big way…

Ohh. Varsis then? -relishes the idea- Mmm. That boy is lovable. {on so many levels haha...err..-shifty eyes-} What 'great purpose' though would you bring him back for, I mean if it is him. At the same time it'd be really neat to have Thurinae meet her father, no? ^^ {they'd be too cute together, haha I can see it}

Also - for Star Wars: do you think I could cross an alien with like, some other species? That's possible, right? I was originally thinking I wanted a girl Twil'lek if that's how you write it? But I didn't want those big things on her head. :P I wanted hair...haha...-obsession with white hair sinks in- {not old people hair, mind you.} I think I've got an idea for a male character, but I'm not quite sure yet.

Hahah, I'm SO terrible at 'elaborating' my points, ain't I? To put it straight, I'm not going to bring anybody back after them dying in Amon Lanc. It would be... *searches for the words* unceremonial and improper? Like, I mean, you mourn for them, and you have all this remorse and regret, and then they come back and you think, 'I just got used to the idea you died and gotten over it, and now you're back again?' But if you reeeeaaaaaally, reeeaaally wanted to, you know, we could bring somebody back, convince the Valar, and do the happy reunion thing =) If you wanted to.
Ooh, do you mind delaying telling the current story for an extra dose of flashbacks so we can catch up to the one that's relevant to the scene with Varsis and Tiwele at the moment? I was just going to write that scene in, but then thought, 'aargh, you don't know this, and this'... It's what happens when you write something that 'grows in the telling'. I might insert some flashbacks into earlier posts, too... But I'll tell you if I do that.
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But I am gunna bring somebody back in EoF (abbreviated), because I wanted to explore the 'immortality' idea thing that wasn't really given much emphasis in the stories or anything. I haven't heard of it, but it probably is possible (think of all the crazy species there are) to have someone half Twi'lek (without extra l) ;) Even though I've honestly never thought of them with hair *thoughtful*
Gr, I'm not sure whether I should just stick with one character, or bring in the others who are directly important to her as well. I dun want too many characters just yet, but I'd really love them as characters >.< You know the (well, I think) equivalent to Dark Elves in the SW universe? (mwahahaaa) One of them's definitely gunna be in the RP.

I think it would be neat to bring Varsis back - if only for a moment, for Thurinae's sake. I feel bad she never gets to meet her parents. :(

I think for SW I am gonna make a female Twi'lek, but who knows. I need to sit through and find a good male race.

Oh, and another random splurg, you should join Nanowrimo when it comes around this year. ^^ I am gonna, 'cause my little adventures with Varsis and Erelith have basically been taken to another level, to the point I am writing my own little story outside LOTR. :D