Here we go again! :naw:
IMO....CW made some valid points (not all of them agreed on by me); and I did not sense a thread of 'hate' in his opinions.
Why should Memorial Day be so hard on CW when he can just come here for others to be hard on him for stating his opinion?
I clearly understand why so many have given up on expressing their opinions here.
It takes maturity, compassion and understanding to know how to 'live and let live' without being judgmentally condemning of opposing viewpoints.
I've had to work on that very issue myself many times.

PUHLEEEEEZE !!!!!
Someone makes a public statement that people serving their country are dishonorable fools or some other such :bullS: and they're suddenly being picked on ? Yeah, right . :rolleyes:

Anyone that comes on this board making assinine statements & piss!ng on the memory of those that served their country deserves more of a grilling than I'm seeing here . :rant:

If people have left this board because they were being held accountable for their PUBLIC statements & opinions ......... that's how it goes . :) I sure wouldn't have chosen someone that spits in our veteran's face as my example . :downer:

Having an different opinion is fine but have respect when doing so. CW may not support our troops but should at least respect them. JMO

Focus has a valid point, yes people are bullied on this forum. CW wording was off the mark, most of his post were down the line with my thoughts. If old men had to fight the wars they start alone, we would have far less. Our military folks aren't fools, they believe in justice and honor. The problem is and always has been the power struggle of greedy old men and women. Is there anyone who can show me a war that was for a just cause? Dig deep for the reason each one was started, it all comes out the same thing, the true reason is always distorted behind cover-ups.
To follow without question, only the young can be lead that way. I do and always will honor our fighting men and women, but not the greedy slobs who put them in harms way. :rant: jmo

pj1 :smoke:

I wouldn't call people being upset about what CW said bullying them. I think coming onto a thread where folks are talking about our soldiers who were KIA and making the statements they did, is horrible. Just like those people that protest at the soldiers funerals, CW is entitled to their opinion. But I have to question the reasoning behind coming on this thread and saying all soldiers are fools. People don't make blanket statements like that unless they're looking to be offensive or looking for a fight. I think CW accomplished what they set out to do, stirring the pot. :whistle:

Read my post again Farmer, I said on this Forum, not this thread. I also said his comment was off the mark, but he still has a right to voice his opinion even if we don't agree with it. jmo


pj1

So your basically derailing someone else's thread to complain about the forum? :scratch: This is the only forum I've ever been on where disagreeing with someone is considered being bullied. From what I've seen people get the same type of response they give. If you want things to be nicer here, maybe some of you should start posting nicer responses. :whistle:

Do you love it
Do you hate it
There it is, the way you made it - Frank Zappa

:scratch: Simple statement, keep up the good work Farmer, you will prove my point! Twist what I say, that is your right. I enjoy this Forum very much, not complaining, but as everyone knows there have been times when people have been bullied. I stated my opinion of this thread, derailing?, I don't think so. jmo



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Perhaps because of:

Wrong, it's their responsibility to follow orders.

Nothing could be further from the truth. Obviously, the OP has never been in the military.

Another misconception. A 'true soldier' will follow his/her orders. Anything less invites retribution from the UCMJ.

Our military doesn't have the luxury of determining the honorability of their path. Thier's is but to do or die.

Call this what you will. I got spit on in uniform from some like minded individuals in '69. I didn't have the choices then I have now.

I have studied the forum rules and my hope is to get as close to the limit as possible to deal w/ azzhat statements like I quoted w/o going over them, I.E. getting a time out or being removed from the sand-box. I could care less. I'd wear it like a badge of honor.

Nobody anywhere will crap on our service people while I can respond w/o a battle.

Deal w/ it.

Very well said, Awshoot. :thumb:

I haven't been on here as of late as much as I'd like to be, or read even 10% of the threads.

But so far I haven't seen you break any rules here.

We all have a right to our opinions and the right to express them here. :thumb:

Awshoot, your last post was right on the mark and I stand behind you 100%. :thumb:

I have to agree with Awshoot on this one. Well put!!! :thumb:

I don't agree with any of the un-necessary war crap that our young people have been thrust into. I protest the wars we are involved with now, as I did Viet Nam, but not the brave young people who are just doing their jobs. The loss of life of any one of them is a tragedy, whether they should be there or not. I understand both sides of the issue at hand. I can only say that I would hope that no one on this forum should wish or feel that it is just, for any American soldier to die for any reason, when performing their duties.

I've said it before and I will say it again: Nobody hates war more than the individual who is faced it or their family and loved ones. I'm not quite sure where some folks get the idea that those in the military glorify war. There is no glory in death, only sadness.

In 2004 I was lucky enough to come across a milblog written by a young soldier in Iraq--The Questing Cat. Below are some extremly poignant excerpts from one of his postings. I think his comments hit it right on the head.

The post was about an attack which occured as his unit was supporting civil affairs team. He was a gunner, but had undergone combat life saver course, which in this event, saved the life of a young 19 year old soldier. It is an incredible piece of literature and every now and then I bring it out to remind me and humble me. If you are interested in reading it in its entirety, PM me. Lots of fancy, colorful language included! The author is a Facebook friend and has given me permission to share his words.

My nephew who is the same age as my son just returned stateside from Iraq 2 days ago, and I'm glad he's back.

Wonderful news!! :clap: :flag: :clap:

Tell him welcome home and that I appreciate what he has done for this country. :thumb:

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