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Title: Can Nikki leave the UK?


marymartin - April 19, 2008 08:02 PM (GMT)
Does anyone know if Nikki's conviction prohibits her from leaving the UK? I'm curious as to the effect it has on her ability to get a passport and leave the country. Someone suggested to me that as a convicted felon she would not be allowed in the United States.

Anyone have insight on the subject?

Thanks in advance.
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ekny - April 20, 2008 02:59 AM (GMT)

Cassandra - April 20, 2008 03:11 AM (GMT)
In the UK, passports are not linked to criminal records as such. However when applying to travel to the US, you have to apply for a visa if you have ever been arrested or convicted. I'm sure a visa would be declined for manslaughter.

marymartin - April 20, 2008 01:53 PM (GMT)
Thank you. Pretty much what I thought. Nikki will never get to America. :( Oh well. *heavy sigh*

solitasolano - April 20, 2008 05:22 PM (GMT)
Not necessarily true...at least the part about getting into the US. Wade would have no trouble getting a British passport as Cassandra says, but US officials would certainly make Wade "stand on her head" to receive a visa for travel to the US ie. San Francisco. Here's the link to the US Embassy UK which stipulates the process for obtaining a visa if one has a criminal record.
http://www.usembassy.org.uk/cons_new/visa/niv/add_crime.html

Wade definitely would not qualify for the Visa Waiver Program like most other UK citizens when wanting to come to the US.

Seems like it's up to the discretion of the official who conducts the interview. Wade would have to provide the following:
"When applying for a visa you are required to submit with your application the following additional documents:
1) a completed personal data sheet, Form VCU1 (PDF 64Kb);
2) A police certificate from the ACPO issued less than 6 months before your visa interview;
3) copies of the court record(s) covering all charges of which you have been convicted, or which are presently pending against you, if relevant.

OT...mary martrin, lol, while I was googling the issue at hand I found an article about 55 yr old Mary Martin who was threatened with deportation from England to the US once it was found out that even though she had lived in England since the age of two, she had never gotten citizenship. This wasn't found out until her mother passed away. Mary Martin, I kid you not.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/2750715.stm






marymartin - April 20, 2008 07:49 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (solitasolano @ Apr 20 2008, 05:22 PM)

OT...mary martrin, lol, while I was googling the issue at hand I found an article about 55 yr old Mary Martin who was threatened with deportation from England to the US once it was found out that even though she had lived in England since the age of two, she had never gotten citizenship.  This wasn't found out until her mother passed away.  Mary Martin, I kid you not.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/2750715.stm

You found out my secret! :prisonbars :cop2

Small world innit? :laffout

Thanks for the input. So from what you're saying I guess I can put Nikki in the states in fiction if I want because it's possible, but not likely, she could charm her way around an interviewer?

Cassandra - April 20, 2008 08:13 PM (GMT)
It's possible Nikki might lie to gain entry to the US under the Visa Waiver Program. Though it would be a little out of character for her, she might just do it if she felt she had a good enough reason (to see Helen again or to realise her dream of visiting San Francisco). I'm not sure at all how they vet Visa Waiver applications but don't see how they could possibly check everyone other than doing spot checks or focusing on suspicious individuals.




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