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Title: Nosiness & Privacy In Larkhall


tamla - June 24, 2008 06:49 PM (GMT)
I don't mean to be rude but I've noticed that while in Prison "The Principal Of Privacy" is not acknowledged Larkhall has some very "Nosy" People.

Bodybag tells Jim to come to the "Visiting Room", when Helen comes to see Nikki.

Jim makes a "remark" about Helen's communication with Nikki after she leaves Larkhall as Wing Governor.

Di tells everyone about his "date" with Helen when it was just "business".

Dominic asks Helen who's she seeing when he comes by her flat unexpected and uninvited.

Di asks Dominic what was wrong the day after he found out about Nikki & Helen.

Denny unintentionally "opens" her big mouth about Crystal while Josh is doing his training. This of course results in Di following Josh home and realizing that he and Crystal are a "couple".

Di continues to bother Josh about "going out" even though he says "No" over and over again.

Di looks in the cell to see the evidence of Crystal and Josh's upcoming Nuptials.

Di and Fenner look around Nikki's & Helen's Cell to find evidence to prove that she and Nikki are having an affair which results in poor Helen leaving Larkhall.

Can anybody else think of anything to add?

Elisandra - June 28, 2008 09:13 PM (GMT)
Barbara and her diary would be one. She's got everyone in there. :D

Shell takes it for herself, so she knows everything that's in it too.

Doesn't Di only look around Nikki's cell because Fenner's blackmailing her over him finding her mother in a horrid state? The things I forget when I'm waiting for Nikki and Helen to make an appearance. :D

tamla - June 29, 2008 09:06 PM (GMT)
Yeah, but that's Fenner for you. Always trying to find out something about someone to protect his own "@ss".

Remember when Karen told him that she had "Photos" of him and Tina Purvis in an "Uncompromising Position" and how he broke into her house and took all the evidence.

Now, I'm sorry but if I were Karen, I wouldn't have said a thing to Jim, I would hold on to it and then take it to someone higher and then make sure that Jim would be out on his @ss.

Also, remember when he found out about Colin Hedges being a Heroin Addict, he used that to blackmail Colin into setting up Shell to make it look like she was trying to harm little Ronan although it wasn't true.

Elisandra - June 30, 2008 09:46 PM (GMT)
I don't know, maybe Karen was blinded by the love God that she actually thought Fenner was. Ick. Is there a vomit emoticon? I don't see one. You'd think Karen, of all people, would have been smart enough to not tell Fenner she had something on him. It's just another case of Shed allowing Fenner to always come out on top. For once I'd have loved to see him get what was coming to him. I know he finally does, in a later series. But it would have been nice if someone from the earlier series' was the one who got to finally nail him.

I felt so bad for poor Shell. Granted returning to the show wearing that ridiculous costume, or cozzie as Shell's fond of saying, would have made me say no to doing the show. :D Poor gal, on the muppet wing again, we can only hope that Tessa Spall's there to protect her. :D I sometimes questioned what Shed was doing with some of the characters on the show. Or some of the storylines. Since some were a tad too out there. I also always wondered why it was Fenner, and only him, who really ever got away with everything. A bit unfair, if you ask me, considering that he made what the prisoners had done, at times, look saintly.

richard - July 1, 2008 09:32 PM (GMT)
This is a brilliant theme that you've uncovered, Tamla, and of course, there's a big difference between Nikki's interest in her fellow human beings as it is motivated by her desire to help. It has always struck me that Di's motivation is to be 'the one to know first about people' and to pontificate about them - from my experience, every office has a Di Barker. Series 2 very neatly draws out that her desire to know contrasts with the emptiness of her home life- if you can call it one.

Fenner's interest in knowledge is purely about either establishing power- i.e. his tie in with Stubberfield over Helen's head- or his paranoid fear of losing control if he doesn't know what's going on.

In answer to your point about Karen, Elisandra, I felt that she was making the same mistake that Helen made before her in signalling her move against him. It all goes to show the penalty of Karen being driven apart from Helen. The only way for certain of nailing Fenner is to strike quickly and give as little knowledge of the blow to fall. In this case Karen blabbed too much as Helen gave Fenner time to 'talk to Karen' rather than getting his resignation on the spot. Her absolute refusal to depend on higher authority was perfectly understandable as she rightly figured how untrustworthy Grayling then was and hence delivering the file personally to Area bypassing Grayling.

As you say, Shed allowed Fenner to come out on top- at the critical moment.

Elisandra - July 2, 2008 09:02 PM (GMT)
Unfortunately, Fenner always got the upper hand. Would have been nice to see him get his comeuppance from someone from the original cast. I was thinking Yvonne would have been a good choice.

I've said before, I've only watched through series 5, but I do know he is finally taken out. I can't remember who does it though. But it was too long in coming. It's too bad that Mandana and Simone didn't stay with the show for a 4th series. I'd have loved to watch Helen dragging Fenner down with her. :D

Eventually, when the 6th through 8th series are a bit more affordable for me I do want to pick them up. Even though a few people have said the show kind of sinks into more unbelieveable situations and it got too far away from the prison and the prisoners and became more about the lives of the screws.

I am thrilled I came back here though. It's fun learning new insights into the show that I hadn't noticed. It's interesting that hundreds can watch the exact same show and come away with 100 different things that no one else picked up on.

tamla - July 13, 2008 06:40 PM (GMT)
I rewatched the scene where Josh once again turned Di down about going out for a drink.

She started going on about how hard it is to separate personal from professional in The Prison Service.

What Di doesn't realize is how important it is to have friends "outside" of work because sometimes you need people not to remind you of work.

Not to sound obnoxious but how many of you actually "socialize" with people you work with. I don't because it's too complicated and sometimes after a couple of drinks, you sometimes see people's "true colors".




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