Title: Bloopers?
Description: I love MJNet [Sep 13, 2005]
Description: I love MJNet [Sep 13, 2005]
ekny - June 5, 2006 07:38 PM (GMT)
I love MJNet PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:17 am
Okay - there are a number of bloopers throughout the series 1 to 3 - so...... here are a couple of them to get you going........ who can spot some of the others we know about - and you might even spot something we don't!
Series 2 - Babes Behind Bars - When Yvonne gets the phones in the lunchbox, she takes out four phones and the hands free leads. However, when she gives them to the two Julies and Denny, she gives them chargers too. Where were they from? They wouldn't have fitted in the lunchbox!
Series 1 - Them and Us - Helen & Nikki facing off on the landing - When Nikki is standing on the stairs shooting her mouth off, there is some kind of metal table in the background (blackboard ? Ping-pong table ?). When Nik comes down the stairs, the table is flat, in the next shot it's folded up and then in the next shot it's flat again.
Lastly for this lot and perhaps the one that was spotted the most at the time:
Series 1 - The victim (although it might be Love Rival I can't quite remember - shock horror).
Shell "accidently" pours hot tea over Rachel as she walks past.
The jugs then suddenly fill up again in the next shot!
There are a few more we know about - but we thought it might be fun for you to have a go at finding some yourselves and add them to this list.
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flump PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:09 pm
What a great thread ILMJN! So obvious, why didn't somebody think of that before! I have to say though, this will be my only post on this thread, I never notice these things!! It's only when its pointed out to me that I go "oh yeah!" Rolling Eyes I was watching the episode where Shell pours the tea on Rachel (the victim) yesterday and never noticed, then its pointed out to me. Doh! Not only are the jugs suddenly half full again, but they go flying right out of shell's hands, then magicaly reappeare a split second later without any time to have picked them up!
I'm now going to watch the other bloopers and wait with antisipation for other peoples observations! :D
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Obsessed with Helen PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:28 pm
I may have mentioned this somewhere else before, but it is my favorite blooper.
Library/Art room scene from series 2 (you know, the kissing scene).
Helen walks to the art room door with a folder and her brief case in her right hand.
When she enters the art room, there's no folder and the brief case is now hanging on her left shoulder (which she quickly puts down to kiss Nikki :D )
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silverballnz PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:49 am
Hey OWH what a bloody great thread i can see ill have to drag out the DVDS again what a hardship lol but ive never noticed these things but im just a novice compared to you.
Cheers.
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I love MJNet PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:05 am
A couple more then......
OWH - I admit I hadn't spotted your blooper - nice one :D
Here are a couple more I know about (Oh and don't worry if you haven't spotted any yet - we hope this might prompt some of you to grab the box sets and watch again *Yeah I know hardship that it is* to see if you can spot something)..........
Onto the bloopers.
The first one is from Oh my god Im obsessed who posted this on the BGOL board.
Ok, when Nikki and Helen are in bed together and Nikki talks about their future, Helen places her hand under Nikki's chin. The next cut where Nikki says "what", Helen's hand is on Nikki's arm. Next cut, Helen's hand is back under Nikki's chin. Nikki then caresses Helen's hands while saying she can't go back until the morning shift. Final cut, Helen's hand is back on Nikki's arm then she turns over and sees the letter.
On the same token, if you watch closely (that is, if you can keep your eyes off of Helen's "roving" hand) is that Nikki moves positions a couple of times, and she goes from having a dry face to tear streaked back to dry again.
From series 2, Oh what a night, going on into Series 3. first episode.
Nikki's bra changes colour too, when Helen rips open the nurse's uniform in s2 ep13 its white but at the beginning of series 3 when Nikki gets back to her cell and changes its a kind of beige colour. Certainly not the same bra - but then who cares ;)
And finally for this small round:
This slip-up occurs about eight minutes into the episode Tangled Web (Episode 5 of Series 1). Nikki Wade is taken to solitary after attacking Shell Dockley. Officer Sylvia Hollamby locks Nikki up and gives the cell door a good, hard slam. Watch the "concrete" wall around the door frame - and how much it wobbles.......... Oh dear.
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Total Awe PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:58 am
I knew of the Shell and Nikki's bra blooper. In fact I remember the bra one being discussed almost the moment it was aired on the old Larkhall Insider MB. But I didn't know about some of the other bloopers mentioned. Its been a real eye opener.
I shall certainly be watching a little more closely from now on.
:wink:
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Obsessed with Helen PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:36 pm
Hey I Love MJNet,
I knew there was something about the Nikki/Helen scene in bed that didn't flow right, but I could never put my finger on it. I had notice the dry face and wet face of Nikki, but there was still something more. So thanks for the explanation.
Never caught the bra thing either. Must go research more.
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Bondvillain2k PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 1:58 pm
In the episode where Zandra collapses in the toilet and Di Barker's scrambling over the top of the door, you can hear Bodybag shout something, but her mouth doesn't move in the shot!
(if only it didn't move all the time, ever)
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muffbian PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:22 pm
I still say Helen's front door and front garden ( in series 1 she has a garden! In series 2 she don't! She just has big grey steps lol), mysteriously changes from the last episode of series 1, to oh what a night, last series of 2.
I could be wrong cos i have not watched them for a while...
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Bondvillain2k PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:26 pm
muffbian wrote:
I still say Helen's front door and front garden ( in series 1 she has a garden! In series 2 she don't! She just has big grey steps lol), mysteriously changes from the last episode of series 1, to oh what a night, last series of 2.
I could be wrong cos i have not watched them for a while...
Maybe she had Ground Force round? :D
*goes away to find some new, better jokes*
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Obsessed with Helen PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:30 pm
Doesn't the glass in her window change too? Clear glass in series one and some kind of distorted glass in series two.
Joined: 07 Jun 2005
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I love MJNet PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:14 pm
The glass changes - and in fact the whole hallway/flat changes from series one to two.
We assumed it was simply that Helen moved, albeit to a similar flat - but thats just conjecture because there is such an apparent change of scenery in the flat.
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Obsessed with Helen PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:31 pm
I have to do some research on this flat thing. Although Helen has different things in her bedroom from series one (where she's in bed with Sean, ick) the walls are the same color and the set up is the same. Must go and research.
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AturallyGupa PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:31 am
Helen also gets a new car midway through series three--in episode 3.10 her car pulls up all shiny with a new moonroof. There are a couple of shots of the car over the next few episodes and then by episode 3.15 she's back to the less shiny, old car with no moonroof.
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HelenAddict PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:57 am
Love This Thread
Guess I will have to spend less time looking at Helen and try to see if I can catch some as well. I will definitely be looking for the ones mentioned.
Great fun here! :D
Okay - there are a number of bloopers throughout the series 1 to 3 - so...... here are a couple of them to get you going........ who can spot some of the others we know about - and you might even spot something we don't!
Series 2 - Babes Behind Bars - When Yvonne gets the phones in the lunchbox, she takes out four phones and the hands free leads. However, when she gives them to the two Julies and Denny, she gives them chargers too. Where were they from? They wouldn't have fitted in the lunchbox!
Series 1 - Them and Us - Helen & Nikki facing off on the landing - When Nikki is standing on the stairs shooting her mouth off, there is some kind of metal table in the background (blackboard ? Ping-pong table ?). When Nik comes down the stairs, the table is flat, in the next shot it's folded up and then in the next shot it's flat again.
Lastly for this lot and perhaps the one that was spotted the most at the time:
Series 1 - The victim (although it might be Love Rival I can't quite remember - shock horror).
Shell "accidently" pours hot tea over Rachel as she walks past.
The jugs then suddenly fill up again in the next shot!
There are a few more we know about - but we thought it might be fun for you to have a go at finding some yourselves and add them to this list.
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flump PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:09 pm
What a great thread ILMJN! So obvious, why didn't somebody think of that before! I have to say though, this will be my only post on this thread, I never notice these things!! It's only when its pointed out to me that I go "oh yeah!" Rolling Eyes I was watching the episode where Shell pours the tea on Rachel (the victim) yesterday and never noticed, then its pointed out to me. Doh! Not only are the jugs suddenly half full again, but they go flying right out of shell's hands, then magicaly reappeare a split second later without any time to have picked them up!
I'm now going to watch the other bloopers and wait with antisipation for other peoples observations! :D
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Obsessed with Helen PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:28 pm
I may have mentioned this somewhere else before, but it is my favorite blooper.
Library/Art room scene from series 2 (you know, the kissing scene).
Helen walks to the art room door with a folder and her brief case in her right hand.
When she enters the art room, there's no folder and the brief case is now hanging on her left shoulder (which she quickly puts down to kiss Nikki :D )
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silverballnz PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:49 am
Hey OWH what a bloody great thread i can see ill have to drag out the DVDS again what a hardship lol but ive never noticed these things but im just a novice compared to you.
Cheers.
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I love MJNet PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:05 am
A couple more then......
OWH - I admit I hadn't spotted your blooper - nice one :D
Here are a couple more I know about (Oh and don't worry if you haven't spotted any yet - we hope this might prompt some of you to grab the box sets and watch again *Yeah I know hardship that it is* to see if you can spot something)..........
Onto the bloopers.
The first one is from Oh my god Im obsessed who posted this on the BGOL board.
Ok, when Nikki and Helen are in bed together and Nikki talks about their future, Helen places her hand under Nikki's chin. The next cut where Nikki says "what", Helen's hand is on Nikki's arm. Next cut, Helen's hand is back under Nikki's chin. Nikki then caresses Helen's hands while saying she can't go back until the morning shift. Final cut, Helen's hand is back on Nikki's arm then she turns over and sees the letter.
On the same token, if you watch closely (that is, if you can keep your eyes off of Helen's "roving" hand) is that Nikki moves positions a couple of times, and she goes from having a dry face to tear streaked back to dry again.
From series 2, Oh what a night, going on into Series 3. first episode.
Nikki's bra changes colour too, when Helen rips open the nurse's uniform in s2 ep13 its white but at the beginning of series 3 when Nikki gets back to her cell and changes its a kind of beige colour. Certainly not the same bra - but then who cares ;)
And finally for this small round:
This slip-up occurs about eight minutes into the episode Tangled Web (Episode 5 of Series 1). Nikki Wade is taken to solitary after attacking Shell Dockley. Officer Sylvia Hollamby locks Nikki up and gives the cell door a good, hard slam. Watch the "concrete" wall around the door frame - and how much it wobbles.......... Oh dear.
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Total Awe PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:58 am
I knew of the Shell and Nikki's bra blooper. In fact I remember the bra one being discussed almost the moment it was aired on the old Larkhall Insider MB. But I didn't know about some of the other bloopers mentioned. Its been a real eye opener.
I shall certainly be watching a little more closely from now on.
:wink:
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Obsessed with Helen PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:36 pm
Hey I Love MJNet,
I knew there was something about the Nikki/Helen scene in bed that didn't flow right, but I could never put my finger on it. I had notice the dry face and wet face of Nikki, but there was still something more. So thanks for the explanation.
Never caught the bra thing either. Must go research more.
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Bondvillain2k PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 1:58 pm
In the episode where Zandra collapses in the toilet and Di Barker's scrambling over the top of the door, you can hear Bodybag shout something, but her mouth doesn't move in the shot!
(if only it didn't move all the time, ever)
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muffbian PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:22 pm
I still say Helen's front door and front garden ( in series 1 she has a garden! In series 2 she don't! She just has big grey steps lol), mysteriously changes from the last episode of series 1, to oh what a night, last series of 2.
I could be wrong cos i have not watched them for a while...
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Bondvillain2k PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:26 pm
muffbian wrote:
I still say Helen's front door and front garden ( in series 1 she has a garden! In series 2 she don't! She just has big grey steps lol), mysteriously changes from the last episode of series 1, to oh what a night, last series of 2.
I could be wrong cos i have not watched them for a while...
Maybe she had Ground Force round? :D
*goes away to find some new, better jokes*
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Obsessed with Helen PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:30 pm
Doesn't the glass in her window change too? Clear glass in series one and some kind of distorted glass in series two.
Joined: 07 Jun 2005
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I love MJNet PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:14 pm
The glass changes - and in fact the whole hallway/flat changes from series one to two.
We assumed it was simply that Helen moved, albeit to a similar flat - but thats just conjecture because there is such an apparent change of scenery in the flat.
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Obsessed with Helen PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:31 pm
I have to do some research on this flat thing. Although Helen has different things in her bedroom from series one (where she's in bed with Sean, ick) the walls are the same color and the set up is the same. Must go and research.
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AturallyGupa PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:31 am
Helen also gets a new car midway through series three--in episode 3.10 her car pulls up all shiny with a new moonroof. There are a couple of shots of the car over the next few episodes and then by episode 3.15 she's back to the less shiny, old car with no moonroof.
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HelenAddict PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:57 am
Love This Thread
Guess I will have to spend less time looking at Helen and try to see if I can catch some as well. I will definitely be looking for the ones mentioned.
Great fun here! :D
ekny - June 5, 2006 07:43 PM (GMT)
Total Awe PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:49 pm
Helens flat.
I always thought Helen must have moved and just had a flat layout and decoration like the old one, because it wasn't just the front door that changed. If you look closely you'll see its even a change of scenery outside the door.
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I love MJNet PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:54 am
We are currently on a repeat on ITV3 of Series one of Bad Girls - it was Episode three last night (Love Rivals) and begger me - I spotted another Blooper.
As the 2 Julies are talking about becoming Wedding Consultants in America, Julie S turns to Julie J and says about her being able to see her three children?
But we are then only given the impression there are two in later series?
Oops guess someone forgot to write down how many children Julie J was supposed to have for reference later on.
Oh, and having seen quite a lot of Helen's flat in this episode - I am completely confident they aren't the same place at all. :D
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mjnet PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:27 pm
I reckon Helen only lived in the bigger place while she was with Sean and then moved to a smaller apartment.
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Obsessed with Helen PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:36 pm
Okay, you know I need to do more research, but in series 1, ep 1,2 or 3 (I think it's 3) when Helen and Sean are talking about Helen's obsession, you know when their potting his flowers in the living room, right at the start of that scene they show the outside of the flat. It is the same exact shot used in series 2, ep 13 when Dominic goes over to Helen's house.
What do you think? I must go back and do more research.
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muffbian PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:20 pm
You know what i think? Helen being the denial person she was, started having feelings for Nikki that she didn't understand,so started doing some DIY around the house when, Sean left. Realised she had a nack for it and changed the exterior of her house and concluded, if she was this good at DIY then she must be a lesbian :wink:
Then took Nikki into her arms.........
Mystery solved. :wink: Razz
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I love MJNet PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:49 am
There you see..... easy!
muffbian wrote:
You know what i think? Helen being the denial person she was, started having feelings for Nikki that she didn't understand,so started doing some DIY around the house when, Sean left. Realised she had a nack for it and changed the exterior of her house and concluded, if she was this good at DIY then she must be a lesbian :wink:
Then took Nikki into her arms.........
Mystery solved. :wink: Razz
:bow Now, why didn't I think of that? It explains it perfectly, thank you for clearing that mystery up Muff........
I suspect it must have been that flat pack furniture she and Nikki were talking about in series 1 that got her interest going in DIY?
:laughroll
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mjnet PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:53 am
Sooo thats why i am getting the hang of this DIY lark so easily!! Laughing
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muffbian PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:59 am
Laughing Laughing
Well now see this is what i thought too, it must of been the flat pack furniture that started it off too, i think too maybe thats when Sean started to worry also, as he couldn't do it and she could. I am sure he questioned his own sexulatity at this point Laughing Laughing
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Obsessed with Helen PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 12:16 pm
Back to the bloopers, not that is a very good one.
When Nikki goes to the nurse (the first time), the nurse is cleaning her hand and puts a gauze on top of the cut, next sec we see her hand no gauze, next sec guaze.
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NZ Bad Girl PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 12:23 pm
Is Nikki wearing the bandage in ep2 season 3? Isn't it supposed to be the next day?
My friend pointed it out, but I can't check because she has my dvds. I have looked at some screen caps, I think she is right.
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Obsessed with Helen PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 12:36 pm
NZ - Even at work my Bad Girls is never far from me. It appears it should be the next day and Nikki does not have a bandage on. The love making from the night before must have made her heal quickly Laughing
And if you look at the scene where Nikki is threatening Fenner (you know after Fenners sexual assault against Helen) they show a close up of her hand and there's no scar, okay that would probably be asking for a lot, but it's worth mentioning.
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silverballnz PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 2:27 pm
OWH.
Just love your reasoning for the quick healing. :D
Cheers.
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Obsessed with Helen PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 2:35 pm
Nothing makes you feel and heal better "inside" and out, than laying in bed with a beautiful woman. And when I say laying, I really mean having wild passionate sex/love. Embarassed
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silverballnz PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 2:41 pm
OWH
:D :D :D :D :D Lol
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mandanamad PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:31 pm
series 1 blooper
hi i dunno it might just be my imagination but in series 1 ep 1 "them and us" nikki goes 2 see carole because she heard there was summit wrong n she is stood on the staires n bodybag stops her and she says that she wants 2 check on carole i think she says karen not carole might just be me tho dunno whats every 1 else think ?
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mjnet PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:07 pm
Sounds like Carole to me. It could be Mandana's accent playing with your ears! Laughing
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mandanamad PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 4:04 pm
series 1
ya could be wel if it is her accent its a georgous 1 i cud listen 2 it all day lol
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NZ Bad Girl PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 2:19 am
I have a question... Did anyone else notice anything a bit off when Shaz arrived? She arrived in the Dorm during Zandra's funeral. Doesn't Di tell her that Crystal is down the block, or just got back, for losing her temper? And then a few scenes after that, Crystal loses her temper and spits on Dr No-no.
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green eyes PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:03 pm
ok so THE best blooper yet. i'm surprised no one else has picked it up.
series: 3 episode #5 "blood ties"
during lauren atkins visit to see yvonne you'll notice she's wearing a black shirt.
the black shirt in question just happens to be the SAME black shirt nikki wears during her court appearance/release.
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Obsessed with Helen PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:49 pm
V neck when Helen leaves for Monica's appeal and swoop neck when she calls off the wedding with Sean.
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Janet PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:55 pm
Obsessed with Helen wrote:
V neck when Helen leaves for Monica's appeal and swoop neck when she calls off the wedding with Sean.
LOL...just where are your eyes focused? :wink:
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Obsessed with Helen PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:57 pm
Where they are always focused, on my girl Twisted Evil
Hey if she didn't want me looking at her breasts she wouldn't wear her shirts so tight!!!! Love IT!!!
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Obsessed with Helen PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:05 pm
Hey NZ Bad Girl -
I can't find where you posted this, but I remember me saying about the art room Helen's brief case and folders were in one hand and then no folders and brief case over shoulder when she comes through the door. You said something about a hall way and I'm like no I don't think so, well I stand corrected. You may be right, but I still think she would have been in too much of a hurry to stop and put the folders in the brief case, the pictures do in fact show that there was a room in between the library and the art room.
It's a scary thing, now that I (with the help of others) have figured out this photobucket thing.
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NZ Bad Girl PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:31 am
Maybe she wanted her hands free. :clap
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Evangelist PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:34 am
Yeah. That's it Razz
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Sophie PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:21 pm
NZ Bad Girl wrote:
I have a question... Did anyone else notice anything a bit off when Shaz arrived? She arrived in the Dorm during Zandra's funeral. Doesn't Di tell her that Crystal is down the block, or just got back, for losing her temper? And then a few scenes after that, Crystal loses her temper and spits on Dr No-no.
Crystal was just back from being on the block for having cannibis and she did it so that she could stay with Zandra. i can't remember what Di says though. but Crystal is at the Funeral and then she gets annoyed at Dr no-no (quite rightfully so).
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badkir PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:57 pm
Hey I've got one for ya's, I noticed this ages ago and remembered it. It's in series 2 (just had to have a look) episode 3 visiting time, When Sylvia goes upstairs and julie S has waxed the floor so she slips and gets pushed, when she slips and she's saying " no I'm perfectly alright" Well just before she gets the push she says something but it's not "no I'm perfectly alright" so it's like a tape playing over her speaking, because she says it afew times. Go on girls have a look! So funny.
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mandanamad PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 2:38 pm
has any 1 noticed this 1
i dont think any 1 has mentioned this 1 from series 3 i think its ep 7 but i deffo know its from " the great escape" when helen has been attacked by jim and she is coming out in to the garden n locking the gate behind her and nikki comes up 2 her and says " hey ive missed you, you don't write you don't phone" ect how can helen phone nikki while shes inside ? i thought the phone only takes in coming calls ? that bin was mentioned by julie j in "babes behind bars" did any 1 else notice that ?
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Obsessed with Helen PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 2:48 pm
mandanamad wrote:
" hey ive missed you, you don't write you don't phone" ect how can helen phone nikki while shes inside ? i thought the phone only takes in coming calls ? that bin was mentioned by julie j in "babes behind bars" did any 1 else notice that ?
I took that as "tongue in cheek" do you guys use that expression?
You know Nikki was kidding.
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badkir PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:45 pm
What about this one..... You know Claire Walker, well we know Helen mentions her full name to Nikki when she digs up Sally Anne Howe. Well If you look on episode 10 -chapel of love, when Nikki picks up the appeal letter, zoom in on your dvd and it says Claire Hudson.... I was like What the heck!!!!! What a mistake! hehe
Helens flat.
I always thought Helen must have moved and just had a flat layout and decoration like the old one, because it wasn't just the front door that changed. If you look closely you'll see its even a change of scenery outside the door.
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I love MJNet PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:54 am
We are currently on a repeat on ITV3 of Series one of Bad Girls - it was Episode three last night (Love Rivals) and begger me - I spotted another Blooper.
As the 2 Julies are talking about becoming Wedding Consultants in America, Julie S turns to Julie J and says about her being able to see her three children?
But we are then only given the impression there are two in later series?
Oops guess someone forgot to write down how many children Julie J was supposed to have for reference later on.
Oh, and having seen quite a lot of Helen's flat in this episode - I am completely confident they aren't the same place at all. :D
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mjnet PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:27 pm
I reckon Helen only lived in the bigger place while she was with Sean and then moved to a smaller apartment.
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Obsessed with Helen PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:36 pm
Okay, you know I need to do more research, but in series 1, ep 1,2 or 3 (I think it's 3) when Helen and Sean are talking about Helen's obsession, you know when their potting his flowers in the living room, right at the start of that scene they show the outside of the flat. It is the same exact shot used in series 2, ep 13 when Dominic goes over to Helen's house.
What do you think? I must go back and do more research.
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muffbian PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:20 pm
You know what i think? Helen being the denial person she was, started having feelings for Nikki that she didn't understand,so started doing some DIY around the house when, Sean left. Realised she had a nack for it and changed the exterior of her house and concluded, if she was this good at DIY then she must be a lesbian :wink:
Then took Nikki into her arms.........
Mystery solved. :wink: Razz
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I love MJNet PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:49 am
There you see..... easy!
muffbian wrote:
You know what i think? Helen being the denial person she was, started having feelings for Nikki that she didn't understand,so started doing some DIY around the house when, Sean left. Realised she had a nack for it and changed the exterior of her house and concluded, if she was this good at DIY then she must be a lesbian :wink:
Then took Nikki into her arms.........
Mystery solved. :wink: Razz
:bow Now, why didn't I think of that? It explains it perfectly, thank you for clearing that mystery up Muff........
I suspect it must have been that flat pack furniture she and Nikki were talking about in series 1 that got her interest going in DIY?
:laughroll
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mjnet PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:53 am
Sooo thats why i am getting the hang of this DIY lark so easily!! Laughing
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muffbian PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:59 am
Laughing Laughing
Well now see this is what i thought too, it must of been the flat pack furniture that started it off too, i think too maybe thats when Sean started to worry also, as he couldn't do it and she could. I am sure he questioned his own sexulatity at this point Laughing Laughing
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Obsessed with Helen PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 12:16 pm
Back to the bloopers, not that is a very good one.
When Nikki goes to the nurse (the first time), the nurse is cleaning her hand and puts a gauze on top of the cut, next sec we see her hand no gauze, next sec guaze.
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NZ Bad Girl PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 12:23 pm
Is Nikki wearing the bandage in ep2 season 3? Isn't it supposed to be the next day?
My friend pointed it out, but I can't check because she has my dvds. I have looked at some screen caps, I think she is right.
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Obsessed with Helen PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 12:36 pm
NZ - Even at work my Bad Girls is never far from me. It appears it should be the next day and Nikki does not have a bandage on. The love making from the night before must have made her heal quickly Laughing
And if you look at the scene where Nikki is threatening Fenner (you know after Fenners sexual assault against Helen) they show a close up of her hand and there's no scar, okay that would probably be asking for a lot, but it's worth mentioning.
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silverballnz PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 2:27 pm
OWH.
Just love your reasoning for the quick healing. :D
Cheers.
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Obsessed with Helen PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 2:35 pm
Nothing makes you feel and heal better "inside" and out, than laying in bed with a beautiful woman. And when I say laying, I really mean having wild passionate sex/love. Embarassed
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silverballnz PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 2:41 pm
OWH
:D :D :D :D :D Lol
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mandanamad PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:31 pm
series 1 blooper
hi i dunno it might just be my imagination but in series 1 ep 1 "them and us" nikki goes 2 see carole because she heard there was summit wrong n she is stood on the staires n bodybag stops her and she says that she wants 2 check on carole i think she says karen not carole might just be me tho dunno whats every 1 else think ?
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mjnet PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:07 pm
Sounds like Carole to me. It could be Mandana's accent playing with your ears! Laughing
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mandanamad PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 4:04 pm
series 1
ya could be wel if it is her accent its a georgous 1 i cud listen 2 it all day lol
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NZ Bad Girl PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 2:19 am
I have a question... Did anyone else notice anything a bit off when Shaz arrived? She arrived in the Dorm during Zandra's funeral. Doesn't Di tell her that Crystal is down the block, or just got back, for losing her temper? And then a few scenes after that, Crystal loses her temper and spits on Dr No-no.
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green eyes PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:03 pm
ok so THE best blooper yet. i'm surprised no one else has picked it up.
series: 3 episode #5 "blood ties"
during lauren atkins visit to see yvonne you'll notice she's wearing a black shirt.
the black shirt in question just happens to be the SAME black shirt nikki wears during her court appearance/release.
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Obsessed with Helen PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:49 pm
V neck when Helen leaves for Monica's appeal and swoop neck when she calls off the wedding with Sean.
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Janet PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:55 pm
Obsessed with Helen wrote:
V neck when Helen leaves for Monica's appeal and swoop neck when she calls off the wedding with Sean.
LOL...just where are your eyes focused? :wink:
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Obsessed with Helen PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:57 pm
Where they are always focused, on my girl Twisted Evil
Hey if she didn't want me looking at her breasts she wouldn't wear her shirts so tight!!!! Love IT!!!
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Obsessed with Helen PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:05 pm
Hey NZ Bad Girl -
I can't find where you posted this, but I remember me saying about the art room Helen's brief case and folders were in one hand and then no folders and brief case over shoulder when she comes through the door. You said something about a hall way and I'm like no I don't think so, well I stand corrected. You may be right, but I still think she would have been in too much of a hurry to stop and put the folders in the brief case, the pictures do in fact show that there was a room in between the library and the art room.
It's a scary thing, now that I (with the help of others) have figured out this photobucket thing.
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NZ Bad Girl PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:31 am
Maybe she wanted her hands free. :clap
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Evangelist PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:34 am
Yeah. That's it Razz
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Sophie PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:21 pm
NZ Bad Girl wrote:
I have a question... Did anyone else notice anything a bit off when Shaz arrived? She arrived in the Dorm during Zandra's funeral. Doesn't Di tell her that Crystal is down the block, or just got back, for losing her temper? And then a few scenes after that, Crystal loses her temper and spits on Dr No-no.
Crystal was just back from being on the block for having cannibis and she did it so that she could stay with Zandra. i can't remember what Di says though. but Crystal is at the Funeral and then she gets annoyed at Dr no-no (quite rightfully so).
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badkir PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:57 pm
Hey I've got one for ya's, I noticed this ages ago and remembered it. It's in series 2 (just had to have a look) episode 3 visiting time, When Sylvia goes upstairs and julie S has waxed the floor so she slips and gets pushed, when she slips and she's saying " no I'm perfectly alright" Well just before she gets the push she says something but it's not "no I'm perfectly alright" so it's like a tape playing over her speaking, because she says it afew times. Go on girls have a look! So funny.
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mandanamad PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 2:38 pm
has any 1 noticed this 1
i dont think any 1 has mentioned this 1 from series 3 i think its ep 7 but i deffo know its from " the great escape" when helen has been attacked by jim and she is coming out in to the garden n locking the gate behind her and nikki comes up 2 her and says " hey ive missed you, you don't write you don't phone" ect how can helen phone nikki while shes inside ? i thought the phone only takes in coming calls ? that bin was mentioned by julie j in "babes behind bars" did any 1 else notice that ?
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Obsessed with Helen PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 2:48 pm
mandanamad wrote:
" hey ive missed you, you don't write you don't phone" ect how can helen phone nikki while shes inside ? i thought the phone only takes in coming calls ? that bin was mentioned by julie j in "babes behind bars" did any 1 else notice that ?
I took that as "tongue in cheek" do you guys use that expression?
You know Nikki was kidding.
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badkir PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:45 pm
What about this one..... You know Claire Walker, well we know Helen mentions her full name to Nikki when she digs up Sally Anne Howe. Well If you look on episode 10 -chapel of love, when Nikki picks up the appeal letter, zoom in on your dvd and it says Claire Hudson.... I was like What the heck!!!!! What a mistake! hehe
ekny - June 5, 2006 07:51 PM (GMT)
Obsessed with Helen PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 4:10 pm
badkir wrote:
What about this one..... You know Claire Walker, well we know Helen mentions her full name to Nikki when she digs up Sally Anne Howe. Well If you look on episode 10 -chapel of love, when Nikki picks up the appeal letter, zoom in on your dvd and it says Claire Hudson.... I was like What the heck!!!!! What a mistake! hehe
Can't make out that it says Hudson on my poor work computer, but you can certainly tell that it doesn't say Walker - good one!!
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mandanamad PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:06 pm
tongue n cheek
hi obsessed wiv helen i just wanted 2 let u know that i have never heard of the phrase " tongue n cheek" wud u care 2 explain that 2 me sum time cheers mandanamad
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Evangelist PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:55 pm
"tongue-in-cheek" is a phrase used to describe something as being said in jest, what you might call a "cheeky" comment.
I took Nikki's comment to Helen, "you don't write, you don't phone" as teasing Helen that she hadn't heard from her in awhile....
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Obsessed with Helen PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:15 pm
She answered that better than I could have, and yes that is what I consider to be the definition.
Although I'm sure in the Muppet Wing we could come up with other definitions Twisted Evil
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badkir PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:24 pm
Was watching my new series 1 DVD! :D
Episode 10 when Sylvia says its time up when they are practising on guitars, Yvonne looks at her wrist for the time, haha no watch, silly moo! I used slow mo! Thank goodness I have the dvd now!
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Evangelist PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:38 am
Obsessed with Helen wrote:
Although I'm sure in the Muppet Wing we could come up with other definitions Twisted Evil
I wouldn't touch that with Nikki's rake....I'm too likely to get into major trouble. Shocked
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song_stress PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 10:11 pm
Perhaps I heard wrong.........
I thought Nikki reffered to Gossard as DS Gossard, but in the end of S3 I thought I heard the magistrate say DC Gossard Question
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ekny PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:53 pm
999?
I'm not sure if it's a continuity error or an inconsistency in plotting the scriptwriters deliberately overlooked, but I was always surprised that Helen's dialing 999 had no repercussions. In the US, all emergency calls are logged automatically, & if there's no voice contact at the time of the call, I was under the impression police called back or sent a car around. I assume it works the same in the UK.
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HeavenlyHelen PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:41 pm
Re: 999?
ekny wrote:
I'm not sure if it's a continuity error or an inconsistency in plotting the scriptwriters deliberately overlooked, but I was always surprised that Helen's dialing 999 had no repercussions. In the US, all emergency calls are logged automatically, & if there's no voice contact at the time of the call, I was under the impression police called back or sent a car around. I assume it works the same in the UK.
Well it certainly used to. I was working as a carer 15 years back, and on arrival at my dementia charge's house, I went to unpack, during which time she dialled 999. I discovered this 4 hours later when a cop turned up in somewhat belated response and wanting to know exactly who I was, even though the old lady seemed to have conveyed no kind of message, being very confused about the whole situation.
Nice to know they bothered I suppose. But then they'd have to for safety's sake in cases of kidnap victims and the like.
I can also add as an aside that the police have a certain amount of imaginary crimes to investigate too, due to dementia/paranoia sufferers. I encountered this on two further occasions, one of which resulted in a police investigation of my electric typewriter, about which my elderly charge phoned them in my absence and told them was being used for counterfeiting! They said they doubted her word but were duty bound to come out, and duly did so with considerable grace given the costly and rather tedious time-wasting.
Which might help explain why we see too few Bobbies on the beat pursuing real criminals...
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ekny PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:08 pm
HeavenlyHelen wrote:
Well it certainly used to. I was working as a carer 15 years back, and on arrival at my dementia charge's house, I went to unpack, during which time she dialled 999. I discovered this 4 hours later when a cop turned up in somewhat belated response and wanting to know exactly who I was.
Thanks, that's pretty much what I thought. Even if people only dial it by accident--hit the speed dial or something--I figured there'd need to be some kind of follow-up, whether by phone or in person. When trying to figure out how H could possibly smuggle N back in after the end of S2, it was one of the sticking points I kept trying to factor in. I decided the only possibility to avoid police repercussions was if she hung up before the signal went through. Given how fast digital switching works, I think even that's pushing it, but then BG has always been comfortable working around whatever practical plot obstacles they choose to. --e
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abzug PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:17 pm
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I decided the only possibility to avoid police repercussions was if she hung up before the signal went through. Given how fast digital switching works, I think even that's pushing it
I actually wasn't bothered by this. Within a few minutes of her 999 call, Helen and Nikki had left the apartment. Helen didn't return for hours and hours. I would assume the 999 folks either showed up or called in her absence, and either saw that nothing was wrong, or left some kind of note/message which Helen returned after she got home. To me, its not a logic flaw so much as something that happened offscreen.
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ekny PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:33 pm
abzug wrote:
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I decided the only possibility to avoid police repercussions was if she hung up before the signal went through. Given how fast digital switching works, I think even that's pushing it
I actually wasn't bothered by this. Within a few minutes of her 999 call, Helen and Nikki had left the apartment. Helen didn't return for hours and hours. I would assume the 999 folks either showed up or called in her absence, and either saw that nothing was wrong, or left some kind of note/message which Helen returned after she got home. To me, its not a logic flaw so much as something that happened offscreen.
Ciao Bella,
I can see doing it like than mentally but... hm. What're they gonna do, tape a note to the door: Pls CB if you're dead? Plus she's a high-ranking prison official, it's at least possible there's some kind of notational system for various gov't employees, esp in a country w/the highest concentration of CCTV cameras in the world. --e
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loonysarah PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:56 am
I'm not very good at this...
But, in s3 episode 5, when Shaz pierces Denny's tongue, Denny holds a piece of ice against it to numb it. Where did she get it from, surely if she had visited the doctor or nurse it would have been either used in the sick bay or badly melted by the time they returned to the cell.
Also, when Doctor No no is talking to Helen and Helen comments she doesn't look to good he replies "Well i'm not suprised, her tongues very inflamed and she's lost pints of blood"
Now i may be slightly wrong here but, the human body has 8-10 pints of blood i would have thought if she had lost pints so 3 or more she would surely have needed more than sick bay treatment, having said that i know that a tongue piercing gone wrong can result in bleeding to death with in minutes, i just would have thought it standard procedure to take her to a proper hospital.
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ekny PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 7:15 pm
The Gross-Out Factor
loonysarah wrote:
Now i may be slightly wrong here but, the human body has 8-10 pints of blood i would have thought if she had lost pints so 3 or more she would surely have needed more than sick bay treatment, having said that i know that a tongue piercing gone wrong can result in bleeding to death with in minutes, i just would have thought it standard procedure to take her to a proper hospital.
The Gross-Out Factor: or, A Consideration of Denny's Tongue-Piercing Episode Relative to Other Viscera in Bad Girls, Series 1-3.
May I just leap in to say: this has got to be the pure-D most totally f*cking disgusting scene in the first three seasons. Zandra getting decrutched, Z puking up crayola-yellow bile, buki slashing at herself, rachel all pop-eyed, the 2-J's having to endure Smelly Nelly's bog habits, the sheer shudder-worthiness of Shell's mother: I'm sure we could make a thread of everyone's least favorite visceral moments, but this whole tongue-piercing debacle is number 1 on my list by a country mile for basic 7-year-old cover-your-eyes-factor. Frankly I've never understood why Z's decrutching earned S1 an 18-and-over rating but this didn't merit an eye-blink from the rating commission or whatever it's called over there.
Iow... to use my most sophisticated vocab:
gross me the f*ck out. Eew. Bleah. Ptui. Feh. Ralph; barf, vomit, keck, puke. Nasty, mon. <shudder>
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Just Another Mad Bad Fan PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:43 pm
Bloopers?
You REALLY don't like that scene then do you ekny? Laughing
Another blooper which I am surprised nobody has mentioned,occurs at the beginning of Series 2 when Helen appears back in the office a day late after her holiday. Fenner had the day before thrown her lipstick into the bin and we see that panning shot of her desk as he walks in the door, her lipstick is on the desk as well as all her post and other papers. Except that, oh dear, one of the pieces of paper (if you slow it down) has the message "Please deliver to Bad Girls Production Office"written on it! Bad set dressing! Another envelope has a very strange address on it, which is not the usual Larkhall Prison, Battery Road one, but that is more forgiveable - it might have been forwarded from somewhere else.
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notsuchabadgirl PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:41 am
really didnt notice that one
i put it down to being in a state of great excitement at helens return.
my attention was not on the desktop Rolling Eyes
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loonysarah PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:56 am
Thats strange well, the address is on the paper that is bad how scence set up person stays in a job i would never know as for the lipstick hey she might have bought another one with her.
As for the tongue piercing yes it is truly awful i'd love to know when it was first aired on tv in the uk cuz i had my tongue pierced about 4 years ago and after watching it a second time i can't think i had watched that first yuck have to look away!! the worst
bit is when shaz is trying to clean it up a bit ::shudders
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Obsessed with Helen PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:29 pm
I always thought the lipstick thing was her retrieving it out of the bin, showing that's she's back and you can't just toss her away. That is assuming the trash is not collected every night.
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Just Another Mad Bad Fan PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:18 am
Sorry, I wasn't suggesting the presence of the lipstick was a blooper, just the "Bad Girls Production Office" thing. I was just using the lipstick business as a point of reference. I definitely think it's very pointed presence there, was supposed to be our first clue that "SHE'S BACK!" and she's retrieved her lipstick from the bin and is showing that arsehole Fenner exactly who's in charge! That lipstick is a very feminine thing, but it also has phallic overtones, it is standing upright on the desk, it's a bit of an "Up yours" to Fenner I think. A symbol of Girl Power perhaps - a very feminine representation of an erect penis! "There'll be no swinging dicks in this office mate, there's a woman in charge!"
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groovygirl PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:55 am
Quote:
"There'll be no swinging dicks in this office mate, there's a woman in charge!"
Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Porcupine Girl PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:22 am
Just Another Mad Bad Fan wrote:
Sorry, I wasn't suggesting the presence of the lipstick was a blooper, just the "Bad Girls Production Office" thing. I was just using the lipstick business as a point of reference. I definitely think it's very pointed presence there, was supposed to be our first clue that "SHE'S BACK!" and she's retrieved her lipstick from the bin and is showing that arsehole Fenner exactly who's in charge! That lipstick is a very feminine thing, but it also has phallic overtones, it is standing upright on the desk, it's a bit of an "Up yours" to Fenner I think. A symbol of Girl Power perhaps - a very feminine representation of an erect penis! "There'll be no swinging dicks in this office mate, there's a woman in charge!"
That is a fine Freudian analysis Exclamation
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abzug PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:55 am
Just Another Mad Bad Fan wrote:
A symbol of Girl Power perhaps - a very feminine representation of an erect penis! "There'll be no swinging dicks in this office mate, there's a woman in charge!"
Fantastic! I love this interpretation!
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badkir PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:28 pm
Blooper girlies!
Series 2 episode 7, Helen is photocopying Nikkis file. Before she turns the copier on she is in a certain position, pause it and step because when the photocopier goes on and its green light on her face, Helen is in a totally different position, so it must have been cut there and then altered.
Get me? Have a look!
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Just Another Mad Bad Fan PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:32 pm
Abzug, seeing as you like this interpretation, we could perhaps take it a little further! Helen, who has retrieved her (firmly erect) lipstick from the bin (after it has been removed from her drawer by Fenner), later removes from her drawer and hands back to Fenner, with an "Oh Jim... I think these are yours...", a packet of cigarettes. One of the health warnings on cigarette packets is that they can cause impotence! Very Happy
Hellooo ekny! Are you out there? Here's another unfortunate image for you! Laughing
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Just Another Mad Bad Fan PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:54 pm
Oh dear ekny, I haven't seen you around for a while, I hope that image hasn't done you in! I hope that it is just Taxes that is keeping you away and not death & taxes! Anyway, another blooper and this time I promise not to even mention Fenner or his bits!
In Series 1, Episode 2 - "Drug Wars", Helen takes Nikki aside (when N is returning from her shower) to tell her the reason why Carol was shipped out; they then go on to discuss the Anti-Drug campaign. Helen says to Nikki, "What? You think it's pointless to protect your civil liberties do you?" Except that I am certain that the fair Ms. Lahbib says "cibil liberties"! Have a look & listen and do some lip reading, her lips are closed and not slightly open with her lower lip on her top teeth like they would be for "civil"!
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ekny PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:28 pm
Just Another Mad Bad Fan wrote:
Abzug, seeing as you like this interpretation, we could perhaps take it a little further! Helen, who has retrieved her (firmly erect) lipstick from the bin (after it has been removed from her drawer by Fenner), later removes from her drawer and hands back to Fenner, with an "Oh Jim... I think these are yours...", a packet of cigarettes. One of the health warnings on cigarette packets is that they can cause impotence! :-D
Hellooo ekny! Are you out there? Here's another unfortunate image for you! :lol:
Sorry, missed this thread & the new posts--some days I can't quite seem to catch up but thanks for the shout-out. You girls are unwell, you know that. ;)
(I can't tell if it's my browser, it might be: I only check threads when it says there's been an update, but switch back & forth from work & home with several different browsers, & never can tell, quite, if it updates while I'm on the board if something new comes in; I think one has to log off & then log back on for the icons to change. Not a question anyone needs to answer, just trying to think out loud abt why I missed these posts!)
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GeauxGurl PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 6:48 am
Just Another Mad Bad Fan wrote:
Oh dear ekny, I haven't seen you around for a while, I hope that image hasn't done you in! I hope that it is just Taxes that is keeping you away and not death & taxes! Anyway, another blooper and this time I promise not to even mention Fenner or his bits!
In Series 1, Episode 2 - "Drug Wars", Helen takes Nikki aside (when N is returning from her shower) to tell her the reason why Carol was shipped out; they then go on to discuss the Anti-Drug campaign. Helen says to Nikki, "What? You think it's pointless to protect your civil liberties do you?" Except that I am certain that the fair Ms. Lahbib says "cibil liberties"! Have a look & listen and do some lip reading, her lips are closed and not slightly open with her lower lip on her top teeth like they would be for "civil"!
Laughing LOL I thought that I caught that, too ~~ but being as I'm not from the UK, I just assumed that y'all had "cibil liberties" ~~~~ Wink
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Aussie PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 7:26 am
After reading through this thread , I have to say Ladies you are thorough when it comes to spotting bloopers .
You should all be employed by Shed Productions to do this very job .
Well done & thank you to you all Smile .
A.
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Toni~girl PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 7:46 am
See...now I have to go and watch all of these episodes again...geeeez
Wink Wink Wink
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notsuchabadgirl PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:36 am
Toni~girl wrote:
See...now I have to go and watch all of these episodes again...geeeez
Wink Wink Wink
Any excuse Laughing
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Toni~girl PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:39 am
That's right! Wink
Again and again and again.
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Xenclair PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:35 pm
?
Not really a blooper, more a Larkhall Mystery:
Why is Buki still friends with Shaz and going to the two Julie's party after she set Shaz up to be beaten up by Al? They knew she says about the supposed party in the laundry room. ????
Plus Buki hanging with the 'boot gang'??
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mandanamad PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 3:08 pm
buki
i personally think buki's kissing arse esecially when denny comes back
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tammi PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 7:57 pm
My favorite are the Bloopers from Scene 1 in which Fenner & Helen are talking about how Helen "favors" Nikki Wade of Denny Blood.
When Helen said "Daniella Blood is a bully Jim." I thought she said "Daniella Blood is "belligerent".
I later found on an old Bad Girls Website that no longer exists called BADGIRLS FRENCH in which Simone Lahbib messed up her lines and started laughing at how she sounded like Miss Jean Brodie.
badkir wrote:
What about this one..... You know Claire Walker, well we know Helen mentions her full name to Nikki when she digs up Sally Anne Howe. Well If you look on episode 10 -chapel of love, when Nikki picks up the appeal letter, zoom in on your dvd and it says Claire Hudson.... I was like What the heck!!!!! What a mistake! hehe
Can't make out that it says Hudson on my poor work computer, but you can certainly tell that it doesn't say Walker - good one!!
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mandanamad PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:06 pm
tongue n cheek
hi obsessed wiv helen i just wanted 2 let u know that i have never heard of the phrase " tongue n cheek" wud u care 2 explain that 2 me sum time cheers mandanamad
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Evangelist PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:55 pm
"tongue-in-cheek" is a phrase used to describe something as being said in jest, what you might call a "cheeky" comment.
I took Nikki's comment to Helen, "you don't write, you don't phone" as teasing Helen that she hadn't heard from her in awhile....
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Obsessed with Helen PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:15 pm
She answered that better than I could have, and yes that is what I consider to be the definition.
Although I'm sure in the Muppet Wing we could come up with other definitions Twisted Evil
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badkir PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:24 pm
Was watching my new series 1 DVD! :D
Episode 10 when Sylvia says its time up when they are practising on guitars, Yvonne looks at her wrist for the time, haha no watch, silly moo! I used slow mo! Thank goodness I have the dvd now!
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Evangelist PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:38 am
Obsessed with Helen wrote:
Although I'm sure in the Muppet Wing we could come up with other definitions Twisted Evil
I wouldn't touch that with Nikki's rake....I'm too likely to get into major trouble. Shocked
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song_stress PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 10:11 pm
Perhaps I heard wrong.........
I thought Nikki reffered to Gossard as DS Gossard, but in the end of S3 I thought I heard the magistrate say DC Gossard Question
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ekny PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:53 pm
999?
I'm not sure if it's a continuity error or an inconsistency in plotting the scriptwriters deliberately overlooked, but I was always surprised that Helen's dialing 999 had no repercussions. In the US, all emergency calls are logged automatically, & if there's no voice contact at the time of the call, I was under the impression police called back or sent a car around. I assume it works the same in the UK.
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HeavenlyHelen PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:41 pm
Re: 999?
ekny wrote:
I'm not sure if it's a continuity error or an inconsistency in plotting the scriptwriters deliberately overlooked, but I was always surprised that Helen's dialing 999 had no repercussions. In the US, all emergency calls are logged automatically, & if there's no voice contact at the time of the call, I was under the impression police called back or sent a car around. I assume it works the same in the UK.
Well it certainly used to. I was working as a carer 15 years back, and on arrival at my dementia charge's house, I went to unpack, during which time she dialled 999. I discovered this 4 hours later when a cop turned up in somewhat belated response and wanting to know exactly who I was, even though the old lady seemed to have conveyed no kind of message, being very confused about the whole situation.
Nice to know they bothered I suppose. But then they'd have to for safety's sake in cases of kidnap victims and the like.
I can also add as an aside that the police have a certain amount of imaginary crimes to investigate too, due to dementia/paranoia sufferers. I encountered this on two further occasions, one of which resulted in a police investigation of my electric typewriter, about which my elderly charge phoned them in my absence and told them was being used for counterfeiting! They said they doubted her word but were duty bound to come out, and duly did so with considerable grace given the costly and rather tedious time-wasting.
Which might help explain why we see too few Bobbies on the beat pursuing real criminals...
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ekny PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:08 pm
HeavenlyHelen wrote:
Well it certainly used to. I was working as a carer 15 years back, and on arrival at my dementia charge's house, I went to unpack, during which time she dialled 999. I discovered this 4 hours later when a cop turned up in somewhat belated response and wanting to know exactly who I was.
Thanks, that's pretty much what I thought. Even if people only dial it by accident--hit the speed dial or something--I figured there'd need to be some kind of follow-up, whether by phone or in person. When trying to figure out how H could possibly smuggle N back in after the end of S2, it was one of the sticking points I kept trying to factor in. I decided the only possibility to avoid police repercussions was if she hung up before the signal went through. Given how fast digital switching works, I think even that's pushing it, but then BG has always been comfortable working around whatever practical plot obstacles they choose to. --e
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abzug PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:17 pm
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I decided the only possibility to avoid police repercussions was if she hung up before the signal went through. Given how fast digital switching works, I think even that's pushing it
I actually wasn't bothered by this. Within a few minutes of her 999 call, Helen and Nikki had left the apartment. Helen didn't return for hours and hours. I would assume the 999 folks either showed up or called in her absence, and either saw that nothing was wrong, or left some kind of note/message which Helen returned after she got home. To me, its not a logic flaw so much as something that happened offscreen.
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ekny PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:33 pm
abzug wrote:
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I decided the only possibility to avoid police repercussions was if she hung up before the signal went through. Given how fast digital switching works, I think even that's pushing it
I actually wasn't bothered by this. Within a few minutes of her 999 call, Helen and Nikki had left the apartment. Helen didn't return for hours and hours. I would assume the 999 folks either showed up or called in her absence, and either saw that nothing was wrong, or left some kind of note/message which Helen returned after she got home. To me, its not a logic flaw so much as something that happened offscreen.
Ciao Bella,
I can see doing it like than mentally but... hm. What're they gonna do, tape a note to the door: Pls CB if you're dead? Plus she's a high-ranking prison official, it's at least possible there's some kind of notational system for various gov't employees, esp in a country w/the highest concentration of CCTV cameras in the world. --e
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loonysarah PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:56 am
I'm not very good at this...
But, in s3 episode 5, when Shaz pierces Denny's tongue, Denny holds a piece of ice against it to numb it. Where did she get it from, surely if she had visited the doctor or nurse it would have been either used in the sick bay or badly melted by the time they returned to the cell.
Also, when Doctor No no is talking to Helen and Helen comments she doesn't look to good he replies "Well i'm not suprised, her tongues very inflamed and she's lost pints of blood"
Now i may be slightly wrong here but, the human body has 8-10 pints of blood i would have thought if she had lost pints so 3 or more she would surely have needed more than sick bay treatment, having said that i know that a tongue piercing gone wrong can result in bleeding to death with in minutes, i just would have thought it standard procedure to take her to a proper hospital.
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ekny PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 7:15 pm
The Gross-Out Factor
loonysarah wrote:
Now i may be slightly wrong here but, the human body has 8-10 pints of blood i would have thought if she had lost pints so 3 or more she would surely have needed more than sick bay treatment, having said that i know that a tongue piercing gone wrong can result in bleeding to death with in minutes, i just would have thought it standard procedure to take her to a proper hospital.
The Gross-Out Factor: or, A Consideration of Denny's Tongue-Piercing Episode Relative to Other Viscera in Bad Girls, Series 1-3.
May I just leap in to say: this has got to be the pure-D most totally f*cking disgusting scene in the first three seasons. Zandra getting decrutched, Z puking up crayola-yellow bile, buki slashing at herself, rachel all pop-eyed, the 2-J's having to endure Smelly Nelly's bog habits, the sheer shudder-worthiness of Shell's mother: I'm sure we could make a thread of everyone's least favorite visceral moments, but this whole tongue-piercing debacle is number 1 on my list by a country mile for basic 7-year-old cover-your-eyes-factor. Frankly I've never understood why Z's decrutching earned S1 an 18-and-over rating but this didn't merit an eye-blink from the rating commission or whatever it's called over there.
Iow... to use my most sophisticated vocab:
gross me the f*ck out. Eew. Bleah. Ptui. Feh. Ralph; barf, vomit, keck, puke. Nasty, mon. <shudder>
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Just Another Mad Bad Fan PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:43 pm
Bloopers?
You REALLY don't like that scene then do you ekny? Laughing
Another blooper which I am surprised nobody has mentioned,occurs at the beginning of Series 2 when Helen appears back in the office a day late after her holiday. Fenner had the day before thrown her lipstick into the bin and we see that panning shot of her desk as he walks in the door, her lipstick is on the desk as well as all her post and other papers. Except that, oh dear, one of the pieces of paper (if you slow it down) has the message "Please deliver to Bad Girls Production Office"written on it! Bad set dressing! Another envelope has a very strange address on it, which is not the usual Larkhall Prison, Battery Road one, but that is more forgiveable - it might have been forwarded from somewhere else.
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notsuchabadgirl PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:41 am
really didnt notice that one
i put it down to being in a state of great excitement at helens return.
my attention was not on the desktop Rolling Eyes
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loonysarah PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:56 am
Thats strange well, the address is on the paper that is bad how scence set up person stays in a job i would never know as for the lipstick hey she might have bought another one with her.
As for the tongue piercing yes it is truly awful i'd love to know when it was first aired on tv in the uk cuz i had my tongue pierced about 4 years ago and after watching it a second time i can't think i had watched that first yuck have to look away!! the worst
bit is when shaz is trying to clean it up a bit ::shudders
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Obsessed with Helen PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:29 pm
I always thought the lipstick thing was her retrieving it out of the bin, showing that's she's back and you can't just toss her away. That is assuming the trash is not collected every night.
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Just Another Mad Bad Fan PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:18 am
Sorry, I wasn't suggesting the presence of the lipstick was a blooper, just the "Bad Girls Production Office" thing. I was just using the lipstick business as a point of reference. I definitely think it's very pointed presence there, was supposed to be our first clue that "SHE'S BACK!" and she's retrieved her lipstick from the bin and is showing that arsehole Fenner exactly who's in charge! That lipstick is a very feminine thing, but it also has phallic overtones, it is standing upright on the desk, it's a bit of an "Up yours" to Fenner I think. A symbol of Girl Power perhaps - a very feminine representation of an erect penis! "There'll be no swinging dicks in this office mate, there's a woman in charge!"
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groovygirl PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:55 am
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"There'll be no swinging dicks in this office mate, there's a woman in charge!"
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Porcupine Girl PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:22 am
Just Another Mad Bad Fan wrote:
Sorry, I wasn't suggesting the presence of the lipstick was a blooper, just the "Bad Girls Production Office" thing. I was just using the lipstick business as a point of reference. I definitely think it's very pointed presence there, was supposed to be our first clue that "SHE'S BACK!" and she's retrieved her lipstick from the bin and is showing that arsehole Fenner exactly who's in charge! That lipstick is a very feminine thing, but it also has phallic overtones, it is standing upright on the desk, it's a bit of an "Up yours" to Fenner I think. A symbol of Girl Power perhaps - a very feminine representation of an erect penis! "There'll be no swinging dicks in this office mate, there's a woman in charge!"
That is a fine Freudian analysis Exclamation
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abzug PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:55 am
Just Another Mad Bad Fan wrote:
A symbol of Girl Power perhaps - a very feminine representation of an erect penis! "There'll be no swinging dicks in this office mate, there's a woman in charge!"
Fantastic! I love this interpretation!
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badkir PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:28 pm
Blooper girlies!
Series 2 episode 7, Helen is photocopying Nikkis file. Before she turns the copier on she is in a certain position, pause it and step because when the photocopier goes on and its green light on her face, Helen is in a totally different position, so it must have been cut there and then altered.
Get me? Have a look!
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Just Another Mad Bad Fan PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:32 pm
Abzug, seeing as you like this interpretation, we could perhaps take it a little further! Helen, who has retrieved her (firmly erect) lipstick from the bin (after it has been removed from her drawer by Fenner), later removes from her drawer and hands back to Fenner, with an "Oh Jim... I think these are yours...", a packet of cigarettes. One of the health warnings on cigarette packets is that they can cause impotence! Very Happy
Hellooo ekny! Are you out there? Here's another unfortunate image for you! Laughing
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Just Another Mad Bad Fan PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:54 pm
Oh dear ekny, I haven't seen you around for a while, I hope that image hasn't done you in! I hope that it is just Taxes that is keeping you away and not death & taxes! Anyway, another blooper and this time I promise not to even mention Fenner or his bits!
In Series 1, Episode 2 - "Drug Wars", Helen takes Nikki aside (when N is returning from her shower) to tell her the reason why Carol was shipped out; they then go on to discuss the Anti-Drug campaign. Helen says to Nikki, "What? You think it's pointless to protect your civil liberties do you?" Except that I am certain that the fair Ms. Lahbib says "cibil liberties"! Have a look & listen and do some lip reading, her lips are closed and not slightly open with her lower lip on her top teeth like they would be for "civil"!
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ekny PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:28 pm
Just Another Mad Bad Fan wrote:
Abzug, seeing as you like this interpretation, we could perhaps take it a little further! Helen, who has retrieved her (firmly erect) lipstick from the bin (after it has been removed from her drawer by Fenner), later removes from her drawer and hands back to Fenner, with an "Oh Jim... I think these are yours...", a packet of cigarettes. One of the health warnings on cigarette packets is that they can cause impotence! :-D
Hellooo ekny! Are you out there? Here's another unfortunate image for you! :lol:
Sorry, missed this thread & the new posts--some days I can't quite seem to catch up but thanks for the shout-out. You girls are unwell, you know that. ;)
(I can't tell if it's my browser, it might be: I only check threads when it says there's been an update, but switch back & forth from work & home with several different browsers, & never can tell, quite, if it updates while I'm on the board if something new comes in; I think one has to log off & then log back on for the icons to change. Not a question anyone needs to answer, just trying to think out loud abt why I missed these posts!)
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GeauxGurl PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 6:48 am
Just Another Mad Bad Fan wrote:
Oh dear ekny, I haven't seen you around for a while, I hope that image hasn't done you in! I hope that it is just Taxes that is keeping you away and not death & taxes! Anyway, another blooper and this time I promise not to even mention Fenner or his bits!
In Series 1, Episode 2 - "Drug Wars", Helen takes Nikki aside (when N is returning from her shower) to tell her the reason why Carol was shipped out; they then go on to discuss the Anti-Drug campaign. Helen says to Nikki, "What? You think it's pointless to protect your civil liberties do you?" Except that I am certain that the fair Ms. Lahbib says "cibil liberties"! Have a look & listen and do some lip reading, her lips are closed and not slightly open with her lower lip on her top teeth like they would be for "civil"!
Laughing LOL I thought that I caught that, too ~~ but being as I'm not from the UK, I just assumed that y'all had "cibil liberties" ~~~~ Wink
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Aussie PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 7:26 am
After reading through this thread , I have to say Ladies you are thorough when it comes to spotting bloopers .
You should all be employed by Shed Productions to do this very job .
Well done & thank you to you all Smile .
A.
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Toni~girl PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 7:46 am
See...now I have to go and watch all of these episodes again...geeeez
Wink Wink Wink
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notsuchabadgirl PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:36 am
Toni~girl wrote:
See...now I have to go and watch all of these episodes again...geeeez
Wink Wink Wink
Any excuse Laughing
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Toni~girl PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:39 am
That's right! Wink
Again and again and again.
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Xenclair PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:35 pm
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Not really a blooper, more a Larkhall Mystery:
Why is Buki still friends with Shaz and going to the two Julie's party after she set Shaz up to be beaten up by Al? They knew she says about the supposed party in the laundry room. ????
Plus Buki hanging with the 'boot gang'??
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mandanamad PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 3:08 pm
buki
i personally think buki's kissing arse esecially when denny comes back
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tammi PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 7:57 pm
My favorite are the Bloopers from Scene 1 in which Fenner & Helen are talking about how Helen "favors" Nikki Wade of Denny Blood.
When Helen said "Daniella Blood is a bully Jim." I thought she said "Daniella Blood is "belligerent".
I later found on an old Bad Girls Website that no longer exists called BADGIRLS FRENCH in which Simone Lahbib messed up her lines and started laughing at how she sounded like Miss Jean Brodie.
ekny - June 7, 2006 09:45 PM (GMT)
Lisa289
Posted: Jun 7 2006, 03:23 PM
Anyone else notice that in Oh What A Night, Nikki is wearing a white bra. In Back To The Brink, when she returns to her cell and discards her nurse coat, she is wearing a beige-coloured bra, that has more lace on it than the white one.
Now, I'm assuming she didn't take a spare bra to Helen's, do you think she borrowed one of Helen's? Or is it just a basic blooper?
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Posted: Jun 7 2006, 04:13 PM
I was surprised at how long it took me to notice this, but when I did I was shocked at the continuity error. I think its just a basic wardrobe blooper, nothing more significant than that. Its hard to keep these things straight when the two episodes were shot months apart, and they probably don't usually include bras as part of Nikki's regular wardrobe, so the one they found to shoot that scene in season 2 was probably gone by the time it came time to shoot the scene in season 3.
Posted: Jun 7 2006, 03:23 PM
Anyone else notice that in Oh What A Night, Nikki is wearing a white bra. In Back To The Brink, when she returns to her cell and discards her nurse coat, she is wearing a beige-coloured bra, that has more lace on it than the white one.
Now, I'm assuming she didn't take a spare bra to Helen's, do you think she borrowed one of Helen's? Or is it just a basic blooper?
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abzug
Posted: Jun 7 2006, 04:13 PM
I was surprised at how long it took me to notice this, but when I did I was shocked at the continuity error. I think its just a basic wardrobe blooper, nothing more significant than that. Its hard to keep these things straight when the two episodes were shot months apart, and they probably don't usually include bras as part of Nikki's regular wardrobe, so the one they found to shoot that scene in season 2 was probably gone by the time it came time to shoot the scene in season 3.
Lisa289 - June 7, 2006 10:16 PM (GMT)
ye i thought of it as a basic error in wardrobe n stuff as well. but thought it'd be interestin to bring up the point
badgirlnuts - June 7, 2006 10:22 PM (GMT)
Hi, Here' s an amusing discription by Filbertfox.
Where did Nikki get her new bra? In S2Ep13 it was definitely a 1000-wash grey number, not the lacey beige version she was flaunting here. Not that we're complaining, either about the bra or the flaunting *lol*.
Yeeeee haaaaa!!!! First continuity error...those of you who rewound the sight of Nikki wobbling like a jelly in her bra will realise that it's a different bra to the one she wore in episode 13...this is a beige lacy jobby and not the white 'Marks & Spencer' granny harness she was wearing when Helen ripped her uniform open.
Lisa289 - June 7, 2006 10:29 PM (GMT)
Being as both these episodes has Nikki's bra being unveiled, I thought the continuity crew would've made a bit more effort!
badgirlnuts - June 7, 2006 10:52 PM (GMT)
Hi, Are you saying the Bras are supplied by the wardrope dept? I thought Mandana must be using her own ones surely!
Lisa289 - June 7, 2006 10:58 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (badgirlnuts @ Jun 7 2006, 10:52 PM) |
| Hi, Are you saying the Bras are supplied by the wardrope dept? I thought Mandana must be using her own ones surely! |
o ye thats a point! well maybe it's Mandana's fault then..... *runs away and hides away from all the Mandana fans who are now mad at me because i'v blamed her for this mistake*
badgirlnuts - June 7, 2006 11:16 PM (GMT)
Hi,I'm not mad at you at all, really! Nikki should've worn the lacy bra when she went to Helen,s flat, instead of the 1000 wash number *lol*. I'm loving this intellectual discussion!
Lisa289 - June 8, 2006 04:19 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (badgirlnuts @ Jun 7 2006, 11:16 PM) |
| Hi,I'm not mad at you at all, really! Nikki should've worn the lacy bra when she went to Helen,s flat, instead of the 1000 wash number *lol*. I'm loving this intellectual discussion! |
Very intellectual! :rolleyes:
aquarius68 - August 8, 2006 12:53 AM (GMT)
I re-watched "Back from the Brink" last night, & the scene where Fenner is lying on the gurney has bothered me for quite a while. I watch a bit of medical dramas & apparently you can't shock a flat line. This is exactly what Dr Nicholson is doing, he's "shocking a flat line"on Fenner. I may be wrong but has anyone else got any thoughts?
Flutur - August 8, 2006 05:41 AM (GMT)
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| I re-watched "Back from the Brink" last night, & the scene where Fenner is lying on the gurney has bothered me for quite a while. I watch a bit of medical dramas & apparently you can't shock a flat line. This is exactly what Dr Nicholson is doing, he's "shocking a flat line"on Fenner. I may be wrong but has anyone else got any thoughts? |
A lot about those scenes is probably dodgy with regards to medical accuracy. But, I would think that a flat line (indicating that the heart is not beating) is exactly when you *would* shock the heart. The paddles give an electric charge to the heart designed to reset the heart's own neuro-electrical system. From anatomy/physiology we had at uni, the heart is the only organ with it's own neurological system like that (the AV bundle). Generally, heart attacks are either from a blockage (plumbing) or from a problem with the electrical system. Mind you, I'm a therapist, not a doctor and I see the patients after all of that is well behind them. No doubt there is a limit to how long/how many times the heart can take a shock before it is considered of no further use.
Maybe we have a doctor or an ER nurse in the house who wants to contribute? :huh:
And, BTW, I liked the "1000 wash" bra. It seemed very much like what one would wear in prison...and she actually made it seem sexy. Intellectually, of course.:lol:
Cheers,
F
aquarius68 - August 8, 2006 06:19 AM (GMT)
Hi thanks for your reply Flutur.
I agree these medical scenes are dodgy. I used to be an avid watcher of ER. I remember the character Dr Benson saying to a guest character that you can't shock a flat line. Maybe Dr Nicholson should of performed CPR or administered Adrenalin?
Hope a Nurse or similar replies.
I agree these medical scenes are dodgy. I used to be an avid watcher of ER. I remember the character Dr Benson saying to a guest character that you can't shock a flat line. Maybe Dr Nicholson should of performed CPR or administered Adrenalin?
Hope a Nurse or similar replies.
Dockley - August 8, 2006 11:52 AM (GMT)
I am not a nurse, though i have many friends who are, were and want to be.
As far as i am aware, the defibrilater (sp?) is used when the heart goes into cardiac arrest, and i know that a cardiac arrest isn't a flat line, it has tiny little spikes either constantly or at irregular times.
Sometimes shocking the heart can cause it to stop beating, and in that case they do continue to shock, but its not recommended to do it more than three times on maximum voltage.
As far as i am aware, the defibrilater (sp?) is used when the heart goes into cardiac arrest, and i know that a cardiac arrest isn't a flat line, it has tiny little spikes either constantly or at irregular times.
Sometimes shocking the heart can cause it to stop beating, and in that case they do continue to shock, but its not recommended to do it more than three times on maximum voltage.
keli - August 8, 2006 06:52 PM (GMT)
Before I start I'm a veterinary nurse so not quite qualified to answer the questions but essentially the principals are the same
A cardiac arrest, or circulatory arrest, is the abrupt cessation of normal circulation of the blood due to failure of the heart to contract effectively during systole. Which isn't very specific
Asystole or a flatline is when the heart ceases to contract
Ventricular fibrillation is when the ventricles just kind of quiver as opposed to contracting together. This is when defibrillation is normally used. Without getting too technically all cardiac muscle can just contract on it's own providing it has suitable nutrition and the electrical impulses through the heart keep them all beating 'in time'. When fibrillation occurs all the tissue just contracts randomly and the electrical shock of the defibrillation shocks it all back into rhythm.
In asystole, the heart is not likely to respond to defibrillation because it is already depolarized, however doctors try defibrillation in case the rhythm is actually fine ventricular fibrillation, or a rhythm that is shockable but too small to be seen on the monitor.
Hope that makes sense and isn't too wordy
A cardiac arrest, or circulatory arrest, is the abrupt cessation of normal circulation of the blood due to failure of the heart to contract effectively during systole. Which isn't very specific
Asystole or a flatline is when the heart ceases to contract
Ventricular fibrillation is when the ventricles just kind of quiver as opposed to contracting together. This is when defibrillation is normally used. Without getting too technically all cardiac muscle can just contract on it's own providing it has suitable nutrition and the electrical impulses through the heart keep them all beating 'in time'. When fibrillation occurs all the tissue just contracts randomly and the electrical shock of the defibrillation shocks it all back into rhythm.
In asystole, the heart is not likely to respond to defibrillation because it is already depolarized, however doctors try defibrillation in case the rhythm is actually fine ventricular fibrillation, or a rhythm that is shockable but too small to be seen on the monitor.
Hope that makes sense and isn't too wordy
aquarius68 - August 9, 2006 12:03 AM (GMT)
Thanks for the replies,
So is it right to say that scene is NOT a blooper than?
Or just a BIT dodgy? :huh:
So is it right to say that scene is NOT a blooper than?
Or just a BIT dodgy? :huh:
Lisa289 - August 9, 2006 09:21 AM (GMT)
I've been looking through this thread, I'd forgotten most that were mentioned.
And by watching "Love Hurts" last night, I noticed that Helen's flat is indeed different to the one in series 2. When Helen comes in from work and Sean tells her to "keep your coat on, we're going out", you can see that it's a different hallway. Just think to "Oh What A Night" and you can't picture the scene with Nikki at the door in that hallway.
Ok, whenever I try and explain things like this I end up confusing matters. I never seem to be able to put my views into words without it sounding a bit complicated! Well, hope you all understood that!
And by watching "Love Hurts" last night, I noticed that Helen's flat is indeed different to the one in series 2. When Helen comes in from work and Sean tells her to "keep your coat on, we're going out", you can see that it's a different hallway. Just think to "Oh What A Night" and you can't picture the scene with Nikki at the door in that hallway.
Ok, whenever I try and explain things like this I end up confusing matters. I never seem to be able to put my views into words without it sounding a bit complicated! Well, hope you all understood that!
ekny - August 9, 2006 04:30 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (aquarius68 @ Aug 8 2006, 08:03 PM) |
| Thanks for the replies, So is it right to say that scene is NOT a blooper than? Or just a BIT dodgy? :huh: |
Hi aquarius68, without understanding all the technical stuff & not ever having watched gobs of medical tv, I can only say: my general impression is if you have a patient who seems to be dying, it's your obligation to do everything possible to save them, period. (Unless they have a DNR order.) So in a way it doesn't matter: not if he's 'technically' flatlined *or* if you can (or can't) shock a flatline. Dr No-no has an obligation to try to bring him back (even though he's such a twat he needs Karen to remind him what to do & how to do it), and the flatline tells us F's really close (sadly, not close enough!) to dying. So it's nothing as obvious as a blooper, imo; maybe a little grey, but that's all.
Fwiw, I read both Keli & Dockley's answers as saying the following: you can't always *tell* if a flatline *is* a flatline. There are limits to what the body can take around getting shocked, but... you gotta try, Fenner or no. My 2¢. ;)
keli - August 9, 2006 06:05 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (ekny @ Aug 9 2006, 05:30 PM) |
| Fwiw, I read both Keli & Dockley's answers as saying the following: you can't always *tell* if a flatline *is* a flatline. There are limits to what the body can take around getting shocked, but... you gotta try, Fenner or no. My 2¢. ;) |
How do you always managed to put what I mean into words so well!
What i also meant to say is to be honest with emergency medicine there is no particular right or wrong answer it's all about instinct and the heat of the moment. In saying that there isn't any specific right or worng ways to do things as regards medical treatment in general most of the time, yes there are guidelines but there aren't any black and white areas it's all grey, different people have different approches you can't really ever be technically wrong in trying anything you think might work.
Again hope that makes sense I do have a habit of rambling :)
aquarius68 - August 10, 2006 12:22 AM (GMT)
Thanks for the clarification,
I have a clear cut blooper now. In Series 2 Ep 1 or 2, probebly 1, Hollomby visits Yvonne in her cell to deliver the bouquet of flowers. The 1st camera shot is on Hollomby throwing the flowers on the floor, & the next shot is on Yvonne reading the the card?!?!
I have a clear cut blooper now. In Series 2 Ep 1 or 2, probebly 1, Hollomby visits Yvonne in her cell to deliver the bouquet of flowers. The 1st camera shot is on Hollomby throwing the flowers on the floor, & the next shot is on Yvonne reading the the card?!?!
keli - August 11, 2006 07:43 PM (GMT)
Not sure if this is technically a blooper, but i've just noticed it doing the transcripts.
On the credits they spell Sylvia Silvia I believe it's not actually much to do with shed but even so!!
On the credits they spell Sylvia Silvia I believe it's not actually much to do with shed but even so!!
irisblue - October 9, 2006 04:33 PM (GMT)
new blooper i think: In Nikki's final scenes with the yummy armani sooooot (aka Suit) she is wearing a black silk blouse with a diamond like motif. wasnt Yvonne's daughter wearing the same blouse in an earlier episode???? How on earth? :o
Lisa289 - October 10, 2006 12:54 PM (GMT)
Yeah, I believe she was.
aquarius68 - October 15, 2006 02:23 AM (GMT)
Speeking of costume/wardrodes, I think this can be considered a blooper.
I've briefly mentioned it in Quiz Tag. The Set Up Ep. Jim unlocks Yvonne's cell. Yvonne tells Jim that he will help her escape "today," Yvonne is wearing a greenish blouse. Then a couple of scenes later Jim tells Karen about Yvonnes visit. Karen is wearing a skirt suit. After Jim relizes yvonnes "scam," she's back at Larkhall, in her cell crying - still wearing greenish blouse. This is the night scene. Meanwhile Karen is escorting Zandra back on the wing, in a trouser suit. And there is the costume coninuity error!
I've briefly mentioned it in Quiz Tag. The Set Up Ep. Jim unlocks Yvonne's cell. Yvonne tells Jim that he will help her escape "today," Yvonne is wearing a greenish blouse. Then a couple of scenes later Jim tells Karen about Yvonnes visit. Karen is wearing a skirt suit. After Jim relizes yvonnes "scam," she's back at Larkhall, in her cell crying - still wearing greenish blouse. This is the night scene. Meanwhile Karen is escorting Zandra back on the wing, in a trouser suit. And there is the costume coninuity error!
Lisa289 - October 15, 2006 04:29 PM (GMT)
Well spotted aquarius, I have to say I haven't looked into this one since you mentioned it. Maybe I'll watch that ep later today.....
aquarius68 - October 16, 2006 03:43 AM (GMT)
Thanks Lisa I think you should have another viewing.
I also forgot to mention also in "Set Up" Ep, the last scene when Helen is p/copying Nikk's file, she's wearing slacks/trousers, & only moments ago (same day) she was wearing a skirt!!
BTW, this is not a blooper but has anybody noticed the Nikki double/stand in or whatever their called in the industry. The double appears in S1, ep 6, its about halfway of ep she's in the background when Zandra approaches Lorna - asking her to send her letter. The double has the same haircut as Nikki & is wearing her clothes! - only she's a lot "heavier" than Nikki (about 10kg more).
Anyway I just thought that was very interesting. :lol:
I also forgot to mention also in "Set Up" Ep, the last scene when Helen is p/copying Nikk's file, she's wearing slacks/trousers, & only moments ago (same day) she was wearing a skirt!!
BTW, this is not a blooper but has anybody noticed the Nikki double/stand in or whatever their called in the industry. The double appears in S1, ep 6, its about halfway of ep she's in the background when Zandra approaches Lorna - asking her to send her letter. The double has the same haircut as Nikki & is wearing her clothes! - only she's a lot "heavier" than Nikki (about 10kg more).
Anyway I just thought that was very interesting. :lol:
Lisa289 - October 16, 2006 08:53 AM (GMT)
Maybe that "double" is the same one who stunted the fight scene in the previous ep?
BGEp1,2&3 - November 11, 2006 05:55 AM (GMT)
I dont know about your region dvds. But mine are region 4. On the inside of the covers from series 2 they have some photos of the charaters with their character name and their real names. Mine has Yvonne Watkins (not Atkins).
Lisa289 - November 11, 2006 02:43 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (BGEp1,2&3 @ Nov 11 2006, 05:55 AM) |
| Yvonne Watkins (not Atkins). |
:rofl
Rainbow - November 12, 2006 05:04 PM (GMT)
Series 1 - Episode 6 (I think) when Helen caught Nikki reading Romeo & Juliet. I have always wondered, how she could make out in a second what Nikki was reading -- not seeing the cover (which was directed towards the camera respectivly us) and just having a glimpse over Nikki's shoulder. She must either know Romeo & Juliet by heart and have eagle's eyes or be clairvoyant (or just knew her lines .. :D )
KatieSam - November 12, 2006 05:58 PM (GMT)
I like that observation Rainbow, so obvious-why did I not see that? Will have to watch again!
ekny - November 12, 2006 07:13 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Rainbow @ Nov 12 2006, 01:04 PM) |
| Series 1 - Episode 6 (I think) when Helen caught Nikki reading Romeo & Juliet. I have always wondered, how she could make out in a second what Nikki was reading -- not seeing the cover (which was directed towards the camera respectivly us) and just having a glimpse over Nikki's shoulder. She must either know Romeo & Juliet by heart and have eagle's eyes or be clairvoyant (or just knew her lines .. :D ) |
I don't think this is a blooper--all Helen had to do was scan a few lines on the page & she'd see the character names, one after the other....
Lisa289 - November 12, 2006 08:32 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (ekny @ Nov 12 2006, 07:13 PM) |
| all Helen had to do was scan a few lines on the page & she'd see the character names, one after the other.... |
That's very true. I could have been pretty easy for her to know what it was. For instance, it could have been the balcony scene that Nikki was reading at that point, in which all down the page it would have read, "Romeo, Juliet, Romeo, Juliet" and so on down the whole page.
liverpoolkiss - November 12, 2006 09:54 PM (GMT)
Most novels have the authors name on the top of the page, and title name on the opposite page.
Lisa289 - November 12, 2006 10:13 PM (GMT)
That's true, also, I had forgotten about that from when I read Romeo and Juliet.
Rainbow - November 12, 2006 11:29 PM (GMT)
Just have a go and do the test with your girlfriend or who so ever .. and report the results. Please make sure it is just a glimpse (0.10 sec). *G*
PS: I meanwhile checked on my paperbacks. Most of my Penguin paperbacks indeed have a reference on the top of each page .. so you must not be a genius to work out what someone is reading. A glimpse would do nicely. So it just depends on the publisher. I think I just had been reading too many books without any reference lately, so I forgot.
PS: I meanwhile checked on my paperbacks. Most of my Penguin paperbacks indeed have a reference on the top of each page .. so you must not be a genius to work out what someone is reading. A glimpse would do nicely. So it just depends on the publisher. I think I just had been reading too many books without any reference lately, so I forgot.
BGEp1,2&3 - November 13, 2006 10:20 AM (GMT)
I also think Helen would have intentionally looked to see what Nikki was reading.
Since we all know she wanted to find a way of getting Nikki on her side, so to speak. :lol1
Since we all know she wanted to find a way of getting Nikki on her side, so to speak. :lol1
BGEp1,2&3 - November 15, 2006 03:29 AM (GMT)
'Babes Behind Bars' (S2 Ep8) was aired last night on Australian Foxtel. 5 more episode till 'Oh what a night'. :devil :clap :boobies
I dont know if you would call this a blooper or a slip up in the writing department but i notice when Yvonne was showing the girls how the phones worked she actually told them this button answers it and this turns it off.
Then when the phone rings they dont actually use the buttons on the phone they use a button on the hands free unit. As the phone is down their tops.
I dont know if you would call this a blooper or a slip up in the writing department but i notice when Yvonne was showing the girls how the phones worked she actually told them this button answers it and this turns it off.
Then when the phone rings they dont actually use the buttons on the phone they use a button on the hands free unit. As the phone is down their tops.
Lisa289 - December 13, 2006 01:51 PM (GMT)
S2 Ep5 - Mistaken Identity
When the women are having lunch, and Fenner approaches Yvonne
FENNER: Come on love, you've got to eat something.
When Yvonne answers him, she has her right hand up by her face. Then there is a long shot, in which both of Yvonne's hands are down (either by her sides or on the table, I'm not quite sure). But, then back with a close-up shot, she has her right hand back in place by her face again.
When the women are having lunch, and Fenner approaches Yvonne
FENNER: Come on love, you've got to eat something.
When Yvonne answers him, she has her right hand up by her face. Then there is a long shot, in which both of Yvonne's hands are down (either by her sides or on the table, I'm not quite sure). But, then back with a close-up shot, she has her right hand back in place by her face again.