.........................................................Debate

from what i hear. the y.s.a picked a few dates ie scarboro. knowing that the national was at great yarmouth(fair enough) then the bsra changed it to whitby. 20 miles up the coast ;) read what you want into that ;)

no debate the bsra constantly put other stuff on when promised to ysa i believe it wont hurt vfm tho to many weekend warriors leaving our ysa events wi proper bo folk!

just my opinion and i could be wrong but like i give a fuck

same thing happened with the kelso date and sticky rock, thats why the scots left the bsra and formed the scottish number 1s comittee


we battled it out for a few years with folk even getting threatened with violence for handing out kelso flyers a couple of years ago

kelso won tho coz we know how to party

an kelso is a fekkin good rally :cheers

No debate about it, they're pig shite thick cunts who cut their nose off to spite their many faces and are forced to back peddle a few years down the line or less as it's not worked out the way they wanted.

Did I miss anything?

good point well put mr kerr


i concur

a few years back, east coast were going to run a easter pirate rally(fed up of not having a national in the south east at all). big one too, chalet site with 600 rooms and a bit o camping and 3 rooms for music
live bands were sorted and some national rally dj's. both of the nat rally d.js were told in no unsertain tems, no more work for you on the national then.
scuppering the main impatus into it.
lo and behold the very next year there was suddenly an other rally called pirate rally with a very simular set up, ie main theam being pirates. same dj's invited to do sets, but it was in a hole lot hotter country than yarmouth.
even at yarmouth the tother year sertain parties were rolling into smaller venues, and trying to usher out and onto their venue.
funny how when it is said, well put your own rally on, and some one then dose, all the sub threts and codgolling and randirolling starts......
well lets face it, if you put some thing on that may well half the numbers of a big rally. you are affectively killing their profits, while you may well make money as you planned for less numbers.
bit of a speach i know, sorry, but it is no longer a group of lads thrashing it out of a beer or 5 , it is big money business no dow't with the odd back hander thrown in there too. as sertain groups seem to have venues and bands ready to role almost at a moments notice.

having said all that, very glad too hear YARMOUTH HAS A BETTER DATE NOW. ;) thank you guys! :easyrider

and just to ad ysa arnt in it for the money and have never have been.... and its about time we had more chioce in what and where we go there is deffo enough scope for all parties to survive

:banging

well said that man ...

understand the ysa ,but understand the other side aswell ,ill always choose a national cos the nationals are it for me ,wat i do ,wer i go ,wen i get to them is wat we want to do,and like the last llandudno and skegness ,we never touched the do or partsfair/custom shite thingy,.scarboro was excellent last year ,all about it was bang on ,big shame it aint a national ,the main thing for me wen i see stuff like this happening is that i think ,fuck it ,ill do the bike scene and stuff or just me own thing ,ive knocked local stuff on the head mainly due to the selfishness of people who want support but dont give it,the amount of blinged up daytrippers and new age mod twats,and the crap of doing a local on the friday ,supporting and spending me time ther only to find on the sat nite wen the main event is on that the sat nite only and locals are packing the venue out ,then the alarms go of,the band fuck of ,and your left thinking ,wat the fuck am i doing this for ,.scootering is turning in to a load of bollocks ,to many fingers in to many pies ,and way to many day trippers and bling boys getting involved,ill take a back solo seat and watch it all implode ,cant wait for the 90s again,the regular fogotton few ,numbers way down but the fun and friendship well up

bsra constantly shit on the ysa over dates so what are the ysa supposed to do just sit back and take it? i think not
you do the nationals and fair play to you and those who are in ysa that like to do the nationals each to there own me i prefer me own.....y.s.a.
just my point of view

to mi in my straight point of view says fuck you we tell you not you tell us and hey ho away we go?

am i wrong?

They were sat round the table @ Brid

If I've read the YSA forum posts correctly They (the YSA) will activley seek to put alternative venues on to Rallies such as Brid :dunno: As Dave says this all looks a bit short sited and does it mean the potential for 2 Rallies at Brid Scarboro and Whitby in a year :huh:

at brid there is a lot of clubs host an event so why carnt the ysa?
those folks who refuse to do the vfm do at brid and by judging the packed out pubs and venues there was a lot that did this why not offer them the alternative

you will know what i mean if you went to the whitby ysa do b they had to turn folks away very early as it was that popular

as for scarbrough its mostly the place of chioce by most ysa members for what i can gather so its going to be the place to be for those as whitby will be the place for the nationlists and weekend warriors

anyway its not a witch hunt thats led to beleive but a marjoitry vote by the alliance and its members

that is my understanding of it anyway?

dont know wats gone on in the past with the bsra and the ysa,and i aint getting involved one side or anouther ,like ive said ill do my thing and support who ever ,wouldnt give a fuck if ther was a do on at the rally as the ride to a national and the pubs do me,.i have not heard yet the reasoning behind the shift from yarmouth to witby,still cant see why we aint going to scarboro ,but im sure the truthful reason will be bogged down by a load of bullshit versions just to stir the shit ,.like ive always said ,no one owns scootering ,its up to everone to choose wat they want to do and wer to go ,i just hope that some common ground can be found and that no one who chooses to do a bit of both will be affected in anyway,and that wat the ysa plan on doing is seen as an alternative not as a rival thing,.

we are going scarbrough ;)

yes they were

but its been fucking long fight to have our say

it took a while for them to realise kelso wasnt gonna go away

Maybe I've read things wrong - note wrong with competition at a rally- But I understood there would be an alternative resort not just venue at a resort ie when Brids on YSA would be elsewhere :dunno:
As for Brid bit surprised YSA didn't take on Leisureworld

who and how do you got on the number ones commity then. i could fancy some of that..... :redwine:

yes andy when you lot go to whitby for the national a lot of us ysa members will be in scarbrough attending the scarbrough castle coasters event..as an alliance we have to look after our clubs and events within the alliance or there would be no point of the alliance would there?
Again just my view and not of the ysa m8

Maybe we should try and affiliate SBWSC and send you as our rep?


IMHO This has been brewing for a number of years and is a real case of "six of one, half a dozen of the other".
Over the last 12 months I've seen the YSA become more insular and self interested - in fact I made that comment on the YSA forum and pretty much got a strip torn off me - and the YSA has (again, IMHO) got too big for its own boots. It may not be a profit making organisation, but it consistently returns one. Granted, it then uses that profit to further the aims of the YSA, but they still return a profit. They couldn't function without doing so, and I'm not knocking them for that.

The BSRA as I understand it NEVER makes a profit as it doesn't organise any rallies whatsoever. It organises the major events so that they don't clash, that is all.
People seem to get the BSRA confused with organisations such as vfm, but they are seperate entities, no matter how intertwined they are.

It does seem though, that the vfm has too much power within the BSRA, but as they organise more events than anyone else it is arguable that this situation is as it should be. I personally disagree with that, but I understand the viewpoint.

In short, I think the YSA have seen their arses over getting fucked about over the Easter rally, and have thrown their toys out of the pram, but also that the BSRA have acted against the interests of their membership/support.

Finally, I can see that this could backfire on the YSA if they're not careful - they forget that an awful lot of YSA members will still prefer to do the BSRA rallies over their own.

We'll see.

i wouldn't mind Kelso going away, it is a good rally but is that it for ever now? I know venues are limited but in the past there has been Oban, Girvan, Dunbar, Loch Lomond.

It isn't even up for debate anymore . We get a good deal for kelso I was told when I asked about any chance of it being elsewhere in the next few years.

Do we just go on until it is a case of last scooterist standing?

Summer months = south coast rallies , always has been always will be.

Have to say I thought the 'committee' sitting in that room at Bridlington looked a right bunch of fannies. Everything I would never have wanted to aspire to when I started out scootering in the early 80's.

Not had too much experience of YSA rallies really, but those I have done, I think are immensely top notch. They always seem prepared for anything..... You only have to look at Lepton.... Jesus, that should never have happened in reality, but by the eck, they did and it was a stonker too :banging

I can't see why it wont work for them to go it alone. They seem a very well organised and supported outfit, unless I interpret things wrong. :dunno:

so are the ysa at fault for supporting the yorkshire events that are non vfm?
If thats the case then why bother with an alliance?
And as for ysa folk still doing vfm/nationals who said they wouldent my posts have been from my point of view?

Booked up for Antwerp so was going to give Easter a miss anyway................ Then going Llandudno for a night and over to Shearbeer hopefully @ Mayday

Correct Oban was a damn good rally Moddy boy proper site as well IIRC the Scottish folk made mention of a venue Edinburgh way instead of Kelso but just doesn't stack up as good

inevitable but a shame that polotics has to stick its ugly beek into something thats so much fun

i would like 2 forward a motion that rallys are paid 4 by lottery winners and held in
thialand, taheti,hawii,ibiza and clacton on sea :party

shows how much you know about scoter rallies north of the border

there is more than 1 rally here you know just that kelso is the national


there are still rallies in dunbar, loch lomond (balloch) and infact oban as well





so rammit ya nugget, try shutting your arse and giving your mouth a chance



if you dont like kelso dont go simple as i dont go to rallies i dont like coz its pretty stupid to pay money out to have a shit time


or are you moaning coz of the price increase for cars as of next year you mod cunt ;)


edited to add big deal if you started scootering in the early 80s it just means your gonna die before me lol

big fucking wowhee jerry

You are a cock, is no one allowed an opinion. You only go to punt gear anyway and just want in for the cash hence you having an event on in a part of Scotland you don't even come from.
Don't get bolshy with me I go to plenty of Scottish events and Nationals and have never been to a rally in a car.

a cock yes il admit that

in it for the cash lol i like that dont know me very well then


having a rally in a part of scotland i dont even come from?
pray tell which part of scotland do i actually come from i bet you dont know

in fact il bet you £1000 quid you dont know


i only go to punt gear, eh wrong i go to have a laugh with my mates and that is a libalous comment unless you have some sort of proof which im guessing you dont


and at least i dont hide behind a made up name on the internet



btw site rules state that you introduce yourself in the appropriate section which you aint done yet


make yourself known and im sure we can have an adult debate at a rally sometime

Whats the Rally @ Oban and are you doing Bunker Rally in 2010?

Wheres Yorkshire? Is that north of Weymouth?

:dunno:

lambretta club of scotland was at oban this year

and im not doin the bunker again next year

you see as immyjet claimed im only in it for the money
unfortunately that is so far from the truth its unreal coz i personally lost £2100 puttin that rally on and i cant afford to lose that again

and my scoot got nicked 4 days later so building a new scooter is my priority at the moment which aint easy when im not working

altho it is shaping up nicely and very cheap aswell since i actually do have lots of good friends on the scooter scene that are helping me out

Yeah the bunker did bomb a bit. Probably because the local club had a rally on a couple of weeks before (and the weather)

this has already been dicussed between myself and the number1 of the turkeys, who was at the bunker


weather was piss poor and i know thats what killed it


by your statement i take it you were there
seems daft goin to a rally that was only there to make money :lol:

you is very busy then chap have fun m8

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this has already been dicussed between myself and the number1 of the turkeys, who was at the bunker


weather was piss poor and i know thats what killed it


by your statement i take it you were there
seems daft goin to a rally that was only there to make money :lol:[/QUOTE]
No I wasn't there, some of our club were.

As you said ' i dont go to rallies i dont like coz its pretty stupid to pay money out to have a shit time' My choice.

Never saw you at the Turkey's rally but only stayed the Friday night.

Still wouldn't wish you out of pocket though whatever your reasons were for having the rally and fair play it was a pretty ingenious venue.