Ok, we all know Michael Giacchino.

But, as I said here, I wanna mention these 3 great composers, Michael Land, Peter McConnell and Clint Bajakian.

Together, they did amazing scores like "Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis", "Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge", "Escape from Monkey Island", "Sam & Max Hit the Road" and "Day of the Tentacle". :yahoo2:

But they're also great when they're alone.
- Michael Land is the author of the famous Monkey Island Theme, and he was the only composer in "The Secret of Monkey Island", "The Curse of Monkey Island"and "The Dig"
- Peter McConnell did "Grim Fandango", which is the only one (along with "The Dig") that had a official CD release. That's Pogel's favourite game also. ;)
- Clint Bajakian did "Outlaws", which has a Morricone-western style. Track 2 is one of the coolest stuff to play with guitar. So magic! :)
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That was the LucasArts part of the thread. These 3 men are responsable of my first experience with videogames music, and still today the majority of the game music I listen to is done by these men.

But there's more. Apart Giacchino (expecially Medal of Honor of course, but it's not the only good stuff he did), we mustn't forget Harry Gregson-Williams, author of a very great job with Metal Gear Solid.

And I started this thread to discuss about Mateo Pascual also. Man, his scores for the 4 "Commandos" games are some of the best war-music I've ever heard!

I know Michael Land who did fantastic jobs on the MI series and The Dig ! I own the DIG CD and it's very inspiring new age electronic music with choirs.

But I would like to say that Bruce Broughton composed the best PC Games music ever with his HEART OF DARKNESS which was the first orchestral music for a video game and just awesome !! :up: :clap:

It's still Grim Fandango ;)

It's cool that you have The Dig OST CD, Anakin! Then, you should now Land used some classical samples from Wagner. ;)


Did you know that Clint Bajakian's score for Indiana Jones and the Emperor's Tomb was the first game ever to feature a score performed by a real orchestra.

Not the whole score, just a part of it. It was played by a 65-piece orchestra. :)

I didn't know that Land used Wagner ! In which cues and from which Wagner's composition ?

I don't think The Emperor's Tomb is the first orchestral VG score, because HEART OF DARKNESS was recorded in 1990 with The Sinfonia of London (Batman, Judge Dredd and The Mummy Returns), although it was released in 1998 in the Video Game and in 1999 on CD (Intrada).

By the way, I was wondering if The Emperor's Tomb is available on CD... You could probably tell me ? Thanks ! ;)

Eheh, I can't tell this. He used little samples, like a few sequence of notes, about 300 little snippets.

Go here and check out The Dig page, download (or just click to view) the front cover and read Michael Land's comment.

That's all I know, as I read there! :)

Well, are you sure he used a real orchestra? Or just his trusted keyboard, like Bajakian did for the majority of the score?

Bajakian used the orchestra for just 33 minutes of music. The entire OST is on 2 CDs, so you can easily understand that the majority of the work was made by keyboards. But that's still great, and you can really say if this cue was played by a real orchestra or not!

Nope, sadly no. As I said in the first post on this thread, the only Official CDs by a LucasArts videogame are "Grim Fandango" and "The Dig", plus a compilation with some cues from Monkey Island and the other LA best-sellers videogames.

In the site I gave you the link, there used to be all the Star Wars and Indiana Jones videogames scores, but the website guy have to take them down due to legal problems...

It's a great site, and it offers the covers too! It has all the complete Monkey Island soundtracks, along with the complete Grim Fandango (are you still here Pogel? What are you wanting for?! ;) ) and the complete Dig. Warning: The Dig bootleg is in low quality. :(

I read in the form (the link is on the main page) that the webmaster will upload all new Monkey Island CD covers, so hurry up and get these, until they're still there! ;)


Mirko - who have all the Indy game scores from that site, but not all the Star Wars ones.

I'm 100% sure Bruce Broughton used a real orchestra. As I corrected, the score was recorded in 1990 with the Sinfonia of London and is a tremendous big symphonic adventures score. It's the french VG company Amazing Studios that decided at the end of the 80's to contact Bruce Broughton because they had been impressed by his Rescuers II music (and who wouldn't be ? ;) ). But the developpement of the game took such a long time that it was only available in 1998. Do you want a sample ?

Thanks for the info about Indy !

Here : a sample from Heart of Darkness if you want to check who made the 1st real orchestra VG OST ! :proud:

HOD (right click and save target as)

:music: Cool !!! :smoke: :yeah:

Thanks Anakin...I'm always exaggerating, so I'm downloading the whole score from eMule. :D

I hope to found enough sources to finish my download soon!

Many other samples at amazon for the non-downloading listeners ;) :

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00...3155212-2536655

Enjoy !

Whoa, before the FBI comes, I must specify one thing.

From eMule, I download ONLY bootlegs, promos, rare stuff thet you can't find in stores.
I don't download OSTs, I just listen to samples and buy the record if I like it.


Mirko - who is correct. :D

That's all right for me, I don't condamn you ! And I do exactly the same. Last time, I downloaded the Mulan II soundtrack by Joel McNeely coz I was not sure to like it. After one listening, I was hooked and I bought immediatly the CD on amazon. I'm not fond of mp3s, I prefer the CD.

2 things:

MICHAEL GIACCHINO and CHRIS TILTON : Mercenaries playground of destruction
and
JESPER KYD : Hitman 2 : Silent Assasin

!!! :yahoo: :yahoo:

Yeah, MERCENARIES is awesome !

Oh I forgot: The score by *forgot the name, somthing with Moore* for Outcast is REALLY great, also with grand performance by the Moscow Symphony Orchestra and Choir.
I think it was one of the first games to use a full symphony orchestra.
And the best thing is: It's right on the game CD which you can flip into the player and it plays.

Oh thanks for the info Pogel, I heard some extracts from Outcast and was impressed at the time. I thought the CD didn't exist. I think I'm gonna get the game whose price is very low now...

By the way, I also like Bill Brown and its music for Trespasser (Jurassic Park-like), Timeline (MV-like) or Return to Castle Wolfenstein. Not fully orchestral but still very good !

Also check out the historic classics from the 80s-90s - the golden era of Commodore C64 and the Amiga. Melodic music that isn't ashamed of being electronic. I just find synthesized orchestra imitations cheesy.

Composers like:
Chris Huelsbeck, Tim Follin, David Whittaker, Martin Galway, Rob Hubbard, Andrew Barnabas, Alister Brimble, Maniacs of Noise / Jeroen Tel, Jochen Hippel, Jogeir Liljedahl, Bjørn Lynne, Moby / Fred Motte, Karsten Obarski ...

Besides composing, some of these multitalented people were also into the technical side of things -
Huelsbeck and Rainbow Software had the proprietary 7-channel TFMX music system, Obarski created one of the first and most widely used home computer music packages "Soundtracker" back in 1987. Musical genius Follin had his own music routines, as well as Hippel and Whittaker if I'm not wrong.

Huelsbeck later went orchestral with Tunnel B1, although I think it made his music less interesting actually.
Several of these also released CDs with more full-blown studio arrangements of their music.
The web is huge, just do some searching and you'll open up a treasure chest!

Emile can probably come up with additional examples.

I grew up with music from Commodore 64 games. And I adore Martin Galway! A major pioneering talent in that area. And I just bought a double CD of his work, called "Project: Galway". Pure nostalgia :D
http://www.binaryzone.co.uk/galway/galway.php
http://www.lynnemusic.com/project-galway.html (check out the Arkanoid clip)

Galway favorites of mine are Terra Cresta, Rambo, Arkanoid and Green Beret. What that guy could do with the simple SID sound chip was simply amazing!

BTW, did you guys know that Alan used a Commodore 64 on The Delta Force score?

:D

I think "Zelda" deserves another very honourable mention.
There are numourous versions played by an orchestra, such as the some of A Link to the Past and also Ocarina of Time.
And composition wise, both are very strong.

I like the Music in Final Fantasy...

And the results was even better than Badelt's keyboards in Pirates of the Carribean. :D

:rotf2: :rotf2: :rotf2: :up: oh man i can't breath!!!! :D :D ;)

Here are some of my favorite game scores:

Banjo-Kazooie (the funniest game score i have ever heard)

Zelda - Ocarina of Time (lovely melodies and a great adventure feeling)

Body Harvest (great mystery/x-files feeling in this score)

The Sims (relaxing jazz pieces and some hilarious gags in the score)

Baldurs Gate 2 - Shadows Of Amn (the score perfectly describes the various locations)

Max Payne (probably the best theme ever written for a VG character)

:D Thank you! That's make me feel proud of posting! :proud:

I heard some of it, and it's funny. (like a lot of bluegrass banjo's songs. Man..that music is so damn fast! :D )

Any site where to get the complete score of this (possibly in hi-quality Mp3s)?

Yeah, I always liked Maxis scores, expecially those of the "Sim City" series. Have you noticed that, in The Sims 2, there are also some extreme metal songs.

That's scary! :D
Listening to a Sim screaming that way with such a low and guttural voice! :yahoo:

In "The Sims 1", there were "regular" rock songs, not so extreme!


Oh, and someone, in the Videogame thread had mentioned "The Longest Journey"...did you knew that the complete score is available for a free download in the official site?!? :yahoo2:

Ahhh...if every videogame had a website like that, with free, complete and hi-quality mp3s scores... :rolleyes:
Also, at the official Maxis site you can download the complete score of Sim City 3000 and Sim City 4...way to go Maxis! :up:

Just to let you know...I have bumped this thread...


So you can answer to my questions and continue this funny and interesting discussion... :)

I don't know if there is a site, but i remember there was a release for this music. It must be a rare collectible now.

I did not play Sims 2 yet but did you notice the Forrest Gump/Feather theme hint in the first? When you open the building menu there was this piano piece and it started exactly like the forrest gump theme. I guess the composer is a fan of Alan's music ;)

Nice Jazz pieces!

Well, I don't have that mp3 on my PC right now, but yeah I remember that the building theme was very similar to the beginning of Forrest Gump, althought it wasn't identical but very similar. Let's say it was in the same style. So, yeah, the composer must be a Silvestri's fan.

I heard some cue from one Zelda score. I liked them.

How many Zelda games there are?
Is the music worth getting?

Also, I saw John Williams name involved somehow in the Zelda world. Can someone please answer to all these questions?


Mirko - curious as always when discovering new music. :)

There should be

Zelda 1 - Legend of Zelda (NES)
Zelda 2 - Adventure of Link (NES)
Zelda 3 - A Link to the Past (SNES)
Zelda 4 - Link's Awakening (Gameboy)
Zelda 5 - Ocarina of Time (N64)
Zelda 6 - Majora's Mask (N64)
Zelda 7 - Oracle of Seasons and Ages (Gameboy Color)
Zelda 8 - The Wind Waker (Gamecube)
Zelda 9 - The Minish Cap (Gameboy Advance / SP)
Zelda 10 - [???] (Gamecube)

There are several CDs with Zelda music out there, like the Hyrule Symphony(Pieces from Z5 performed by a string-orchestra),and there are quite a few composers who contributed music to the series.
The main man behind the series is the standard-Nintendo composer from all their classics who's name I shamefully forgot.
However, all of them are japanese (I think), so John Williams did NOT wirte any music ;)
As part of the japanese "Orchestral Game Concert" series you can get some more fully orchestrated tracks.

The music is DEFINATELY worth getting, but the Game Concert CDs are incredibly expensive and rare. So it might be a way to search in filesharing programs.

You mean Koji Kondo?

Yes, the man is Kondo.

However, Williams did some of the orchestration you mentioned, Pogel. Read this thread. ;)

Williams composed one theme, I think. And then he did the orchestrations of the original theme by Kondo.

Thanx for the list, Pogel! :up:

Yep. I got some Zelda score on eMule now.


Mirko - who doesn't like to download, but it's forced when talking about rare scores. :/

You're welcome, Mirko!

Williams composed a theme? Seems more like wishful thinking to me, since usually in a Zelda score there are a lot of diffrent themes and it doesn't seem very logical to pay JW enormous bill for just one little theme, also if they have Kondo who really understands his art.

BTW, did any of you play any of these games?
I only played Link to the Past, Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask.
They are instant classics, although Majora's Mask was really more of a letdown. And I still have yet to finish it.

No, I didn't play any of them...the reason is because I only own a PC, so I don't have any consolle.

I don't want to sound like a cheap lousy pirate, but there are some really good emulators you might try.
For example, the last time I played Ocarina of Time, I played it with an emulator. The great thing is that it's much more HiRES then on the rather weak N64. (It was a real joy to see the game in 1600*1200 rather then PAL)
BUT you HAVE to have a Gamepad with an analogue stick, otherwise you can forget the whole game, since it's so dependant on that device.

But if you have one, it's worth a try; but only IF you have bought the N64 and the game (I bought mine a few years ago for less then 10€ so it shouldn't be that much of a sacrifice...) ;)

Pogel, can you please explain that to me? Does this mean that you can play Nintendo games on a pc? And what's an emulator? Sorry but i am not up to date with all this stuff.

I remember a friend gave me his "a link to the past" when i still had my SNES. I only played Mystic Quest on my gameboy (which was the first rpg for this machine and a great game).

An emulator is a software that can run, through special files, old consolle games on PC.

And yes Pogel, I do own a gamepad, but I really have a small amount of time to play. This small amount of time is wasted by playing new games. :)

Well...it seems I was wrong...I believed to a wrong post... :/

Look again the new posts on the same thread I posted the link the other day. I'm sorry! :pardon:

Now I must apologize because I go off-topic by asking for Zelda. :blush2:
This is the "PC Game Scores" thread, and there's no Zelda game for PC, so I think this TommyJohnson guy is stupid to an extreme level for having asked this in a so much wrong thread. :D

Hey, I've just re-read this whole thread. I didn's remember Zelda was mentioned before I posted about it. :pardon:

Anyways, I saw that I didn't find on eMule many of the scores you listed earlier in this thread. If someone knows a place to find them (a lot of games does have a lot of fansites) please let me know!

This is what I'm still looking for:

- Bill Brown - Trepasser
- Bill Brown - Timeline
- Body Harvest
- Outcast

And anything else by Mateo Pascual? Apart those Commandos masterpieces, I only know Praetorians, which is amazing. I suggest this composer to everyone. Check out his works. Any other suggestions about him would be very welcomed! ;)

Finally, last but not least, I have several Command & Conquer scores. Great was music (althought I prefer Commandos a little bit). I just need to know how many C&C games there are, just to know if I have all of them.

Thanks!

I'm listening to Mercenaries by Michael Giacchino and Chris Tilton.

So great!! :yahoo2:


Thanks Michael for everything you compose! :)