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Title: Mother Sacrifices Life for her Baby
Description: Inspiring!


Patriot1776 - January 25, 2008 03:28 PM (GMT)
Mother refuses chemotherapy for liver cancer to save unborn son.

This is amazing, a woman chooses life for her baby over life for herself. We need more women like this in the world.

yinandyang17 - January 25, 2008 04:24 PM (GMT)
We need less woman like that! >:O! We have too many kids today.

Takimaru of Setsuna - January 25, 2008 05:16 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Patriot1776 @ Jan 25 2008, 10:28 AM)
Mother refuses chemotherapy for liver cancer to save unborn son.

This is amazing, a woman chooses life for her baby over life for herself. We need more women like this in the world.

I think its better if a kid would die, then to be in this world with out your mother! (adoption is unacceptable!)

Lady ZeiKumi - January 25, 2008 07:27 PM (GMT)
That's incredible. Now that's love right there, for those who don't believe in it. It shows you the beauty of mothers and they should be appreciated everyday. <33

Ashita Genki Ni Naare - January 25, 2008 08:47 PM (GMT)
If I was that child, I'd feel horrible.... My mother gave up her life to have me, I wouldn't be able to live with myself....

Saku-Tatsuya - January 25, 2008 09:02 PM (GMT)
I know mothers who wouldn't even do that. :/

Patriot1776 - January 25, 2008 09:04 PM (GMT)
Hopefully, the father will re-marry so he won't have to live alone and raise the rest of the kids and the newborn alone. The kid doesn't have to know that immediately, it'd be something the father and his older sisters could reveal to him when he's older, that his real mom died not long after giving birth to him.

Ashita Genki Ni Naare - January 25, 2008 09:13 PM (GMT)
If my dad told me that my mom wasn't my real mom and that my real mom died having me, after a long time, I'd run away. That would make me feel like he felt like my mother wasn't good enough to tell me about her.

Saku-Tatsuya - January 25, 2008 09:22 PM (GMT)
I think that woman showed what true bravery is.

Takimaru of Setsuna - January 26, 2008 04:06 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Saku-Tatsuya @ Jan 25 2008, 04:22 PM)
I think that woman showed what true bravery is.

well its either that or she is just not ready to be a MOTHER!!! :fan:


Saku-Tatsuya - January 26, 2008 04:12 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Takimaru of Setsuna @ Jan 25 2008, 09:06 PM)
QUOTE (Saku-Tatsuya @ Jan 25 2008, 04:22 PM)
I think that woman showed what true bravery is.

well its either that or she is just not ready to be a MOTHER!!! :fan:

That's rude to say. Especially towards the dead.
She was more then ready; read the article! She already had two other children and had planned with her husband not to have anymore. She actually was brave enough to be able to sacrifice her life for another person's instead of being a coward and going for abortion like some women would. And from her sacrifice she got at least a few weeks left, enough time to be able to cradle her son.

True bravery does not come from violance; but it comes from being able to make sacrifices for the sake of others! It's also all about being able to fight back even if you seem like you're losing. That's bravery! This woman was able to fight her painful cancer long enough to be able to make sacrifices like these and to at least give life to another person.

Takimaru of Setsuna - January 26, 2008 04:27 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Saku-Tatsuya @ Jan 25 2008, 11:12 PM)
QUOTE (Takimaru of Setsuna @ Jan 25 2008, 09:06 PM)
QUOTE (Saku-Tatsuya @ Jan 25 2008, 04:22 PM)
I think that woman showed what true bravery is.

well its either that or she is just not ready to be a MOTHER!!! :fan:

That's rude to say. Especially towards the dead.
She was more then ready; read the article! She already had two other children and had planned with her husband not to have anymore. She actually was brave enough to be able to sacrifice her life for another person's instead of being a coward and going for abortion like some women would. And from her sacrifice she got at least a few weeks left, enough time to be able to cradle her son.

True bravery does not come from violance; but it comes from being able to make sacrifices for the sake of others! It's also all about being able to fight back even if you seem like you're losing. That's bravery! This woman was able to fight her painful cancer long enough to be able to make sacrifices like these and to at least give life to another person.



You are right it was rude of me to say!

I didn't read it carefully my BAD :cryriver:

Takimaru of Setsuna - January 26, 2008 04:44 AM (GMT)
I think the title made it seem to dramatic!

I don't want to go in to speculations its not right just like you sad!

Lady ZeiKumi - January 26, 2008 05:14 AM (GMT)
How is it too dramatic?? -__-

I think the mother deserves a lot of respect for what she did. It mustn't have been an easy decision to make.

Takimaru of Setsuna - January 26, 2008 05:34 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Lady ZeiKumi @ Jan 26 2008, 12:14 AM)
How is it too dramatic?? -__-

I think the mother deserves a lot of respect for what she did. It mustn't have been an easy decision to make.

well it really comes down to a 2 chooses
1. Here life fore the kids
2.kids life fore hers!

And im not sure if her censer could have been cured!

so it came down to a more time fore her to live, but she has to bare that she had to abandon the kid!

But i don't think there is a mother in a world who could abandon a kid
fore the sake of here own life

NOT AN EASY CHOICE

But ye at again maybe i just don't have a sense of compassion fore people i don't know

Sesshomaru143 - January 26, 2008 10:12 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Patriot1776 @ Jan 25 2008, 10:28 AM)
Mother refuses chemotherapy for liver cancer to save unborn son.

This is amazing, a woman chooses life for her baby over life for herself. We need more women like this in the world.

LOL wasn't this an episode of House? I swear people watch too much tv nowadays. For those of you who are still unsure of the difference between life and death, facing your mortality is not a sign of bravery. In all honesty unless her doctors' fooled her into believing she had a fighting chance (not saying she didn't since I have no clue what was really going on there) after the birth of her baby I believe she made the wrong decision. The complications that arise with having children prematurely is so great I can't possibly justify her reasoning. Unless after her therapy conceiving another child was impossible and her death was immenent regardless this is honestly the most foolish thing I've ever heard of. In her memory I commend her for taking such a risk and I truly hope her child encounters no future complications to make her death vain.

Patriot1776 - January 26, 2008 01:55 PM (GMT)
I don't watch House. My mom does, but I don't. I did not notice this because of that. I leave Saku to respond to the rest of your comments, she can come up with better words than I can.

Takimaru of Setsuna - January 26, 2008 07:28 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sesshomaru143 @ Jan 26 2008, 05:12 AM)
QUOTE (Patriot1776 @ Jan 25 2008, 10:28 AM)
Mother refuses chemotherapy for liver cancer to save unborn son.

This is amazing, a woman chooses life for her baby over life for herself.  We need more women like this in the world.

LOL wasn't this an episode of House? I swear people watch too much tv nowadays. For those of you who are still unsure of the difference between life and death, facing your mortality is not a sign of bravery. In all honesty unless her doctors' fooled her into believing she had a fighting chance (not saying she didn't since I have no clue what was really going on there) after the birth of her baby I believe she made the wrong decision. The complications that arise with having children prematurely is so great I can't possibly justify her reasoning. Unless after her therapy conceiving another child was impossible and her death was immenent regardless this is honestly the most foolish thing I've ever heard of. In her memory I commend her for taking such a risk and I truly hope her child encounters no future complications to make her death vain.

Thank you!!! :fan:


princess_jojo_owns_fluffyinu - January 26, 2008 08:21 PM (GMT)
If she had cancer and is pregnant wouldn't the baby be born with problems to, possibly? Because with her decideing to not get the cure so the baby would live, thats nice and all. But what what if the baby died to because his mom had cancer? The cancer could spread to the baby and then they could both die sence the mom wouldn't be helped in fear of the baby..
:/

Lady ZeiKumi - January 26, 2008 08:31 PM (GMT)
The baby might end up with cancer as well. But at least he'll have a chance to live. He can receive the chemotherapy. The mother simply didn't want it to so that she could give him a chance to live. Even if he does contract that cancer as well. She sacrifed her life for her baby.

That's very honorable to me, and it doesn't matter if the cancer was curable or not. Whether or not, I'm sure she choose to save her child and go through the pain of her own death than to suffer the pain of his death and then eventually her own.

princess_jojo_owns_fluffyinu - January 26, 2008 08:33 PM (GMT)
Yea, If I were her I would of prlly done the same thing.

Lady ZeiKumi - January 26, 2008 08:57 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (princess_jojo_owns_fluff
yinu @ Jan 26 2008, 03:33 PM)
Yea, If I were her I would of prlly done the same thing.

Yeah, me too. We'll understand it more, probably, when we become mommy's ourselves one day. <3

Sesshomaru143 - January 26, 2008 09:52 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Lady ZeiKumi @ Jan 26 2008, 03:31 PM)
The baby might end up with cancer as well. But at least he'll have a chance to live. He can receive the chemotherapy. The mother simply didn't want it to so that she could give him a chance to live. Even if he does contract that cancer as well. She sacrifed her life for her baby.

That's very honorable to me, and it doesn't matter if the cancer was curable or not. Whether or not, I'm sure she choose to save her child and go through the pain of her own death than to suffer the pain of his death and then eventually her own.

That second paragraph made no sense. Without cognitive thought what is death? I don't know how advanced her bowel cancer was but for those of you who don't know; WE CAN CURE CANCER! Who knew? Yea that's right I watch Scrubs too >.>. But you ladies have to realize the fighting chance she gave her son is one hell of a battle. His life is not guaranteed and even worse if he does keep his life full health is far from promised to him. The decision to seek death and let her child grow up being teased and sheltered due to multiple medical complications does not seem as noble and valiant. I hate having to see those type of kids grow up just because of what they have to go thru. I can only pray for the continued health of the baby and hope that the mother's decision will not ruin the babies life. Altho I'm sure it has devastated the life of her 3 daughters already.

Lady ZeiKumi - January 26, 2008 10:03 PM (GMT)
You make it seem as if she was wrong in what she did. She only did what she felt would be best for him. Any good mother would be willing to do anything for her child. She didn't want him to die. She would rather die herself than to have him die. Why is that so wrong?

Sesshomaru143 - January 26, 2008 10:13 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Lady ZeiKumi @ Jan 26 2008, 05:03 PM)
You make it seem as if she was wrong in what she did. She only did what she felt would be best for him. Any good mother would be willing to do anything for her child. She didn't want him to die. She would rather die herself than to have him die. Why is that so wrong?

It's only wrong cause he wasn't alive yet. I don't kno how the father felt about this and I know having a son would be important to him but that was really a selfish act. Unless the father pressured her to keep the baby just for a while longer it's an utterly ridiculous choice.

Ashita Genki Ni Naare - January 27, 2008 12:23 AM (GMT)
So what would she have done if the baby turned out to be a stillborn?

Lady Lilith - January 27, 2008 01:06 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sesshomaru143 @ Jan 26 2008, 02:13 PM)
QUOTE (Lady ZeiKumi @ Jan 26 2008, 05:03 PM)
You make it seem as if she was wrong in what she did. She only did what she felt would be best for him. Any good mother would be willing to do anything for her child. She didn't want him to die. She would rather die herself than to have him die. Why is that so wrong?

It's only wrong cause he wasn't alive yet. I don't kno how the father felt about this and I know having a son would be important to him but that was really a selfish act. Unless the father pressured her to keep the baby just for a while longer it's an utterly ridiculous choice.

What are you talking about the baby isn't alive yet of course it is baby's don't become alive as they are born they are alive in the womb.

Sesshomaru143 - January 27, 2008 03:14 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Ashita Genki Ni Naare @ Jan 26 2008, 07:23 PM)
So what would she have done if the baby turned out to be a stillborn?

Died. Not like she had much of a choice.










Dear Lily,

As for life in the womb there is obviously nothing I can say to deter you from your opinion. But remember "life" in the womb is much a parrallel to living on life support. People claim that that is life and you should cling too it but it is a sad life to have. If you ever get the chance read Johnny Got his Gun or whatever it's called. That will enlighten you onto what life may and may not be.

Sincerely,
Johnathan York

Lady Lilith - January 27, 2008 03:32 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sesshomaru143 @ Jan 26 2008, 07:14 PM)
QUOTE (Ashita Genki Ni Naare @ Jan 26 2008, 07:23 PM)
So what would she have done if the baby turned out to be a stillborn?

Died. Not like she had much of a choice.










Dear Lily,

As for life in the womb there is obviously nothing I can say to deter you from your opinion. But remember "life" in the womb is much a parrallel to living on life support. People claim that that is life and you should cling too it but it is a sad life to have. If you ever get the chance read Johnny Got his Gun or whatever it's called. That will enlighten you onto what life may and may not be.

Sincerely,
Johnathan York

I am aware of that but the baby is still alive as consciously choosing to kill it is still ending a human life. What if your mother chose to get an abortion when she was pregnant with you simply because she decided you weren't really alive and weren't worth the trouble.

Sesshomaru143 - January 27, 2008 03:36 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Lady Lilith @ Jan 26 2008, 10:32 PM)
QUOTE (Sesshomaru143 @ Jan 26 2008, 07:14 PM)
QUOTE (Ashita Genki Ni Naare @ Jan 26 2008, 07:23 PM)
So what would she have done if the baby turned out to be a stillborn?

Died. Not like she had much of a choice.










Dear Lily,

As for life in the womb there is obviously nothing I can say to deter you from your opinion. But remember "life" in the womb is much a parrallel to living on life support. People claim that that is life and you should cling too it but it is a sad life to have. If you ever get the chance read Johnny Got his Gun or whatever it's called. That will enlighten you onto what life may and may not be.

Sincerely,
Johnathan York

I am aware of that but the baby is still alive as consciously choosing to kill it is still ending a human life. What if your mother chose to get an abortion when she was pregnant with you simply because she decided you weren't really alive and weren't worth the trouble.

Well I wouldn't have much of a say in the matter would I? You can't end something that never truly began. And honestly this baby would have been better to abort anyway.

Lady Lilith - January 27, 2008 03:39 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sesshomaru143 @ Jan 26 2008, 07:36 PM)
QUOTE (Lady Lilith @ Jan 26 2008, 10:32 PM)
QUOTE (Sesshomaru143 @ Jan 26 2008, 07:14 PM)
QUOTE (Ashita Genki Ni Naare @ Jan 26 2008, 07:23 PM)
So what would she have done if the baby turned out to be a stillborn?

Died. Not like she had much of a choice.










Dear Lily,

As for life in the womb there is obviously nothing I can say to deter you from your opinion. But remember "life" in the womb is much a parrallel to living on life support. People claim that that is life and you should cling too it but it is a sad life to have. If you ever get the chance read Johnny Got his Gun or whatever it's called. That will enlighten you onto what life may and may not be.

Sincerely,
Johnathan York

I am aware of that but the baby is still alive as consciously choosing to kill it is still ending a human life. What if your mother chose to get an abortion when she was pregnant with you simply because she decided you weren't really alive and weren't worth the trouble.

Well I wouldn't have much of a say in the matter would I? You can't end something that never truly began. And honestly this baby would have been better to abort anyway.

NOT true. Just because a baby hasn't been born doesn't mean it hasn't begun that can be proven with pure physics alone. What if this baby is born perfectly health and becomes the person who discovers the cure to Aids-and saves billions would that not be worth this one mother's life.

princess_jojo_owns_fluffyinu - January 27, 2008 03:41 AM (GMT)
A babys heart starts beating within just a matter of days after being concieved.
You dare call that NOT ALIVE!?

Lady Lilith - January 27, 2008 03:44 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (princess_jojo_owns_fluff
yinu @ Jan 26 2008, 07:41 PM)
A babys heart starts beating within just a matter of days after being concieved.
You dare call that NOT ALIVE!?

Thank You!!!

princess_jojo_owns_fluffyinu - January 27, 2008 03:47 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Lady Lilith @ Jan 26 2008, 10:44 PM)
QUOTE (princess_jojo_owns_fluff
yinu @ Jan 26 2008, 07:41 PM)
A babys heart starts beating within just a matter of days after being concieved.
You dare call that NOT ALIVE!?

Thank You!!!

Your welcome.
^_^

Merci to you to.
All you wrote was true.
Thats why I think abortions just plain evil.
Unless..someone was like raped or something I could understand that.
But still I could never kill a baby..

.___.

Sesshomaru143 - January 27, 2008 03:49 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Lady Lilith @ Jan 26 2008, 10:39 PM)
QUOTE (Sesshomaru143 @ Jan 26 2008, 07:36 PM)
QUOTE (Lady Lilith @ Jan 26 2008, 10:32 PM)
QUOTE (Sesshomaru143 @ Jan 26 2008, 07:14 PM)
QUOTE (Ashita Genki Ni Naare @ Jan 26 2008, 07:23 PM)
So what would she have done if the baby turned out to be a stillborn?

Died. Not like she had much of a choice.










Dear Lily,

As for life in the womb there is obviously nothing I can say to deter you from your opinion. But remember "life" in the womb is much a parrallel to living on life support. People claim that that is life and you should cling too it but it is a sad life to have. If you ever get the chance read Johnny Got his Gun or whatever it's called. That will enlighten you onto what life may and may not be.

Sincerely,
Johnathan York

I am aware of that but the baby is still alive as consciously choosing to kill it is still ending a human life. What if your mother chose to get an abortion when she was pregnant with you simply because she decided you weren't really alive and weren't worth the trouble.

Well I wouldn't have much of a say in the matter would I? You can't end something that never truly began. And honestly this baby would have been better to abort anyway.

NOT true. Just because a baby hasn't been born doesn't mean it hasn't begun that can be proven with pure physics alone. What if this baby is born perfectly health and becomes the person who discovers the cure to Aids-and saves billions would that not be worth this one mother's life.

Life can't be measured by physics. Besides life is the experiences you encounter as you live not because some retard can knock up a hobo (not speaking of this family) and have a beating heart. A heartbeat does not make you "alive". Living and interacting with people makes you alive.

princess_jojo_owns_fluffyinu - January 27, 2008 03:52 AM (GMT)
<Read>

Hmm your saying what?
I can't read idiot.
:]

How can you say its not alive?
So if a baby is born its dead just because it hasn't interacted with anyone yet?
I don't see your point on this subject.

Sesshomaru143 - January 27, 2008 03:53 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (princess_jojo_owns_fluff
yinu @ Jan 26 2008, 10:52 PM)
<Read>

Hmm your saying what?
I can't read idiot.
:]

How can you say its not alive?
So if a baby is born its dead just because it hasn't interacted with anyone yet?
I don't see your point on this subject.

Yes being born does give you life. But being alive is not the same as having life.

princess_jojo_owns_fluffyinu - January 27, 2008 03:55 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sesshomaru143 @ Jan 26 2008, 10:53 PM)
QUOTE (princess_jojo_owns_fluff
yinu @ Jan 26 2008, 10:52 PM)
<Read>

Hmm your saying what?
I can't read idiot.
:]

How can you say its not alive?
So if a baby is born its dead just because it hasn't interacted with anyone yet?
I don't see your point on this subject.

Yes being born does give you life. But being alive is not the same as having life.

Everyone has their own opinions.
But I believe in life before life.
I believe that a baby IS alive in the womb.
Just because its not actually born yet does not make it "dead" that is why I do not believe in abortion unless you really truely had to.
:/

Sesshomaru143 - January 27, 2008 03:59 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (princess_jojo_owns_fluff
yinu @ Jan 26 2008, 10:55 PM)
QUOTE (Sesshomaru143 @ Jan 26 2008, 10:53 PM)
QUOTE (princess_jojo_owns_fluff
yinu @ Jan 26 2008, 10:52 PM)
<Read>

Hmm your saying what?
I can't read idiot.
:]

How can you say its not alive?
So if a baby is born its dead just because it hasn't interacted with anyone yet?
I don't see your point on this subject.

Yes being born does give you life. But being alive is not the same as having life.

Everyone has their own opinions.
But I believe in life before life.
I believe that a baby IS alive in the womb.
Just because its not actually born yet does not make it "dead" that is why I do not believe in abortion unless you really truely had to.
:/

This has become an off topic rant. Besides I'm not here to try and change anyone's opinion anyway cause you are females and very rarely do you change your minds.

princess_jojo_owns_fluffyinu - January 27, 2008 04:01 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sesshomaru143 @ Jan 26 2008, 10:59 PM)
QUOTE (princess_jojo_owns_fluff
yinu @ Jan 26 2008, 10:55 PM)
QUOTE (Sesshomaru143 @ Jan 26 2008, 10:53 PM)
QUOTE (princess_jojo_owns_fluff
yinu @ Jan 26 2008, 10:52 PM)
<Read>

Hmm your saying what?
I can't read idiot.
:]

How can you say its not alive?
So if a baby is born its dead just because it hasn't interacted with anyone yet?
I don't see your point on this subject.

Yes being born does give you life. But being alive is not the same as having life.

Everyone has their own opinions.
But I believe in life before life.
I believe that a baby IS alive in the womb.
Just because its not actually born yet does not make it "dead" that is why I do not believe in abortion unless you really truely had to.
:/

This has become an off topic rant. Besides I'm not here to try and change anyone's opinion anyway cause you are females and very rarely do you change your minds.

xD

Merci
So true.

Fine Fine.
But I'm not mad Haha
I just always have to post something in a topic thats as interesting as this.
x3

By the way the reason why we have different views on this subject is because for one I'm Female and your Male of COURSE we are going to disagree on life.
Rofl




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