Title: epilepsy.com pimps VNS
Description: resource pages paint rosy picture
Description: resource pages paint rosy picture
Bernard - March 25, 2008 12:15 PM (GMT)
Have a look at what they wrote and you decide if looks like a paid commercial advertorial...
http://my.epilepsy.com/discussion/975148
http://my.epilepsy.com/discussion/975148
Birdbomb - March 25, 2008 05:59 PM (GMT)
Bernard, your comment was outstanding! : applause :
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| Dr. Schachter is past Chair of the Professional Advisory Board of the Epilepsy Foundation and serves on their Board of Directors. He is a member of the Epilepsy Therapy Development Project’s executive committee, and editor-in-chief of epilepsy.com. |
I guess when you are editor-in-chief you can pick and choose what you want people to know, oh wait, haven't doctors done that to patients for YEARS? Doctor/editor-in-chief! Oh WOW! He is a God! Now ask him how much he makes in consulting fees from Cyberonics.
Every man has his price.
:FYI: FYI : This $hit is atypical marketing puffery. Over inflate the positive, bury the negitive. LMAO reading this. These aren't new studies. This is just a creative representation to the same old studies. Much like putting lipstick on a pig. It may be cute, but it's still a pig.
GOLD!!!!! --->>Over 44,000 people have been implanted but looky here!
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| More than 20,000 people are using vagus nerve stimulation (also called VNS). The United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA) officially has approved vagus nerve stimulation for certain kinds of epilepsy in adults and children .... UPDATED: Thu, 11/08/2007 - 12:22pm |
Does this imply HALF of them have been turned OFF? I believe it does! Where is Dr Schachter getting his information from? As much as he is hawking the VNS ( just search "Steven C. Schachter, MD+VNS") He knows how many are still activated, he's just another shill for the company. A hired marketing TOOL.
VNS & children
Notice how it's not mentioned the VNS does NOT have FDA approval for kids under 12? And if you do run into problems it's user error? Oversight? Selective omission? Deception?
BTY I left my :Two Cents:
Birdbomb - March 27, 2008 07:06 PM (GMT)
Bernard, looks like you have a "fan"
http://my.epilepsy.com/discussion/975148
This lady sure has her panties in a wad. : surprise : And surprise, surprise, look who else has to add his unsolicited (as always) opinons. And as usual, Mr. Shill just can't resist.
Time to open another bottle of.....
http://my.epilepsy.com/discussion/975148
This lady sure has her panties in a wad. : surprise : And surprise, surprise, look who else has to add his unsolicited (as always) opinons. And as usual, Mr. Shill just can't resist.
Time to open another bottle of.....
Bernard - May 19, 2008 12:25 PM (GMT)
I added emphasis:
| QUOTE (Cint) |
| ... There is a new book out, entitled "Our Daily Meds" by Melody Petersen. In it, she tels the truth about what goes on in the pharmaceutical world and how some doctors work with the pharmaceuticals to seel their drugs. What was so disturbing to me is a chapter entitled "Neurontin for Everything". It talks about how Warner-Lambert decided to market the drug to their benefit right before the patent expired on Neurontin. The drs. prescribed it for kids with ADD to the extreme of adults with sexual dysfunction, manic depressive disorders or even hiccups! The book also mentions that some of the doctors chosen to write articles for Neurontin or speak at dinners sponsored by the pharmaceutical were paid BIG $$$. Some of the doctors mentioned are doctors we've all heard of in the epilepsy world. I will list the doctors listed in the book: Dr. Cynthia Harden from New York, Dr. Ilo Leppick -Univ. of Minnesota, Dr. B.J. Wilder -Univ. of Florida, and Dr. Steven Schacter -Harvard. All promoting Neurontin on behalf of the pharmaceuticals and getting paid for it and here we are as patients paying out our rear ends to take the meds that could harm us. Sometimes the placebos are more effective than the drugs. Sorry I just had to vent!! ... |
Birdbomb - May 19, 2008 03:23 PM (GMT)
BAHAHAHAHAHA!
I thought as much... ANY doctor who spouts how ANY treatment is the holy grail like some of these guys do, just proves they ARE on payroll.
Their judgement is SO jaded by the MONEY, I wouldn't let them treat my dog!
Excellet follow-up Mr. B. Let's see if he tries to weasel out of this.
: g : Hmmm....wonder if anyone has asked the good doctor just how much he's cleared from CYBX this past year.
gel61820 - May 19, 2008 08:40 PM (GMT)
:ROFLMAO: Wonder how those doctors are explaining themselves now? HaHaHa
Great follow-through, Bernard!! :Great!:
Hugs,
Cindy
Great follow-through, Bernard!! :Great!:
Hugs,
Cindy
dennis100 - May 19, 2008 09:51 PM (GMT)
Let me see if I've got this right. Over 44,000 people have had the VNS implanted. More than 20,000 are actually using the device. That would mean that about half of the implants had to be turned off for one reason or another.
I wonder if the 7185 MAUDE reports had anything to do with people having their VNS shut off.
I wonder if the 7185 MAUDE reports had anything to do with people having their VNS shut off.
Birdbomb - May 19, 2008 09:59 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (dennis100 @ May 19 2008, 02:51 PM) |
| Let me see if I've got this right. Over 44,000 people have had the VNS implanted. More than 20,000 are actually using the device. That would mean that about half of the implants had to be turned off for one reason or another. I wonder if the 7185 MAUDE reports had anything to do with people having their VNS shut off. |
More like the side effects was the reason to turn them off, not the MAUDE reports.
From this PAID doctor's account, 50% of the implanted VNS have been turned off. If that were the case, don't you thik it would be a RED flag to the FDA that something is amiss?
dennis100 - May 20, 2008 10:56 AM (GMT)
44,000 implants with 7185 MAUDE reports should be a huge red flag.