Who would/are you voting for?

I would vote for the Liberal Democrats because Labour and the Tories are both pathetic

in my opinion all british politics are pathetic... id much rather prefer an americanised method of elections.

id say if an american came over and ran a a campaign such as bartlet hed be in 10 downing street no problem then after a week hed knock it down and build his own parlimentary building that doesnt look nothing more than a terraced house!!!

I would also like an american style election but didnt the Labour party try having an american style convention with the whole party. they were ahead by a long way in the polls. Then after the convention they dropped and they lost. I dont think the British like big and flashy campiagns

1992 election im on about

I would vote lib dem coz charles kennedy is a scot. And i agree that the american political style election is better. Thats why i want to do american politics instead of British.

I voted for Labour but only because their education policies are the best and I work in a School.

I was brought up to believe that voting Conservative was similiar to being a mass murderer but Tony Blair has adopted so much of the Conservative ethic there is very little in it.

Interestingly enough, for the first time ever the pro -life / choice is starting to come into the argument for the first time ever.

I would like to vote monster raving loony party but they are not fielding a candidate in my district.

i might vote for the cons later in life but never while michael howard is leader. My god if he ever gets into power im gonna move to france.

To have a huge campaign like in america would cost millions, its illogical to waste tax payers (Because thats where the money comes from in elections) money on advertising and fame where it could go to Education, Health Care etc. I'd hate to see american style politics in this country. I think if you look at the real big picture you'd find american politics more corrupt than dictatorship governments like Iran.

i beg to differ the american style of politics strictly prohibits using the money of the "country" to enhance there campaigns - they can AND DO however accept large donations from high powered individuals and companies... as well as everyday folk like you and me... of course.

Yep. xShockwavex has it right. We here in the USA don't use government\tax payers money to run governmental elections.

Now state-run elections can and usually do use state\tax payers money (depending on the constitution of the state in which that election is held) for state government. I don’t think it is right and most states are now changing their constitutions to disallow that.

As far as the UK electoral system… I don’t follow it much (surprise huh?). I think the use of the prime minister is a simple way out. You guys didn’t want to get rid of the crown so you instituted a PM with half the power while stripping all the power from the crown. So why have that position now as it is nothing more than a figure head. That’d be like us Americans crowning Bill Gates cause he has the most money. If you guys got rid of the crown what would be left would be nothing more than a glorified confederacy. But since you have the PM and a crown you call yourselves a “constitutional monarchy” which is funny to me considering that the UK’s constitution is largely unwritten and common law.

Eh, I’m being a bit harsh… I mean the UK only JUST started there way to a democracy a few years ago so I should expect you guys to get it right overnight. ;-) (That was a very dry joke I know lol It was based on the US’s drive to make the world democratic… well everyone we don’t like anyway.)

You guys have a nice flag though.

The way this thread is worded it would seem that there is an election going on… so who has won or is not over yet? Meh.

EDIT: Even though I know nothing of them I voted for the conservative in the poll... this is cause I'm a Liberal Republican. I’ll be the first one to say that I know nothing of the group for which I voted… I hope they aren’t like the reformed Nazi party I just don’t know it and in my ignorance of the party just helped them out lol. :D

No the election hasnt even started tony blair the pm has to give break parliment up first. In the uk we dont pick who runs as the PM the party will decide we pick mp's in our constituencys and the party with the most mps wins and forms government. The system is called firts past the post. hope that kinda helps explain it

p.s i cant spell :lol:

Yeah I know. Your form of government is covered in depth by our school system and our media covered it in detail when the war started so any American actually paying attention (which sadly isn't many) knows about the english government.

Personally I think you guys should go back full force to the crown. Get your country back to the golden days when the sun never sat on the British Empire. :D

I know I give the brits a hard time but I'll fight for you guys the next time we have to save you all from utter distruction. :lol:

And I mean it, your flag is a nice one.

i hate to tell you but scotland, wales and ireland are included in the UK.

We do have a nice flag but the british national anthem suck,

number 1 coz its the english national anthem

2 its anti scottish

3 I hate the queen

4 why on earth would any one want to save the queen

I know it's the UK... lol Ruffled your feathers a bit there did I? Sorry for that, REALLY!

And about saving the queen I like that saying... but what about the king? I mean it's "GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!" but it's "LONG LIVE THE KING!" I mean don't the king need God too? OR do we only want the queen to be saved by God... "God save the queen... and king... you better live long cause you know where you're headed... if you know what I mean."

Okay so I picked that up from a British comedian but it sure was funny to me and I've never forgotten it even though I forgot the comedian long ago! :lol: :lol: :lol:

But truthfully, if I offend anyone I am sorry... What I say usually is meant to be nothing more than playful banter.

Um... well... now back to the topic of this thread...

What are the issues that seperate the parties? I mean, I doubt they are the samethings seperating the demos from the repubs here in America... or are they?

Which party has won more? Are the demos and repubs the two main parties like here in America? Do you have main parties? Hmm... I might get into UK (see I remembered it) polotics. :lol:

the main partys in the uk are

Labour (not Labor)- Tony blair

conservatives - Michael howard

liberal democrats - Charles Kennedy (scottish bloke)

SNP- scottish national party- Alex Salmond

Their the main partys there are more but right now i cant be bothered looking them up. lol

i dont know who had won the most elections but for the last centuray it has always been between labour and the conservatives. The longest Pm is Margeret Thatcher but if tony wins the next election then he will become the longest.

And i know that you dint mean to offend anyone its just that people always think of england when the Uk is mentoned. :o

hope that kinda helps lol

I find your post extremely offensive. the UK didn't start democracy a few years ago. We have had it for centuries.

As for the queen she actually pays taxs now and most of the royals have proper jobs and stuff. And the main reason we keep her is she brings in billions of pounds worth of tourism. Theres no real reason to get rid of the monarcy. Its part of our history.

I believe our system of government is far better than the American one.

A man can say sorry but once and mean it... so I wont readdress that issue.

Have you heard of hyperbole? Anyway, the UK hasn't had democracy as long as the USA so you are younger in it than we are and you're changing ever so slowly towards a total democracy. This is a good thing.

The Articles of Confederation was part of American history for 13 years. When the confederate type style government no longer worked for us and we started moving away from it we completely did away with the Articles. We didn't keep part of them and just tack on another to make a new form of government with less power than the one we were moving to... we made a clean break. History has a way of continuing. If we aren't moving with it, it over takes us and destroys us.

This is good considering you live there. Obviously, I believe the opposite is true, but I live in America.

-LOC-

PS: What does the word “Bloke” mean?

And you didn't give a single reason to get rid of the Monarchy. Why get rid of something that brings money INTO the country and has no political influence what so ever. THERE IS NO REASON!

As for democracy New Zealand was the first true democracy.

Bloke means Man

In the US system the President is elected and he picks (well, before elected I suppose) a Vice President.

So in effect, if the President was to die, then a non-elected person would be the President?

That's democracy. ;)

No no... lol... the Pres does pick his VP, but the TWO of them have to be elected. They are on the same ticket. I know many people that didn't vote for the pres they wanted simply because his mate wasn't a man of character.

It is worth noting that in the past some VPs were put in office during the term of a pres. None of those, however, served as pres.

Also, in the past, some preidents have had more than one VPs [in this case I think one was elected and the other(s) weren't until the next election -- but don't hold me to that as I don't quite remember].

And hey! If it makes money, keep it! ;-)

Doens't money for american campaigns come from private donations. I thought every bit of the money needed to put a person in office was donated!!! Where did you get the idea it came from tax payer dollars. How would they even begin to get it from tax payer dollars? that would mean that evey recognized candidate was entittled to a fair share of the pool. this have never been the case.

First of all, its not a democracy, it is Democratic republic. We elect the officials we feel will be best representing us and deciding issues of significance. That means we elect the people who will appoint other leaders and make decisons in our interest. That is why its imperative to be up to date and educated on your preferred candidates views and capabilities.

Do you know how long and tedious it would be to do anything in a true democracy?? Every issues would have to be voted on. taht wouldn't be a problem in tribal socitey where a few hundred people lived, but in this country and all others now it would entail massive statistical research(in honour of wanting to be elcted again and popular opine!) as well s a long and tedious proccession of just voting.

What about a monarchy, if the king or quenn dies then another officail non-elect would succeed. Neither were elected.

By the way, having a vice president succeed is still a representationally directed affair. he probably wants to be re-elected so he will probably adhere to the people's desires via once again statistics and popular opinion. Come on yall think things through. There are many levels to everything, lets go past the surface and see what we find. Oh something interesting humnas dont have the highest e-q and there are creatures that can metabolize metals. :shock:

there are one cell bacteria deep in the ocaen who live off of irons and other molten ores. fascinating stuff really. compleltely goes against eveything we thought possible. there might be whole societies of intelligent beings in the cosmos who survive on things other than carbon, especially if they can do that here. mars its the color of rust, could that be the by product of just such organisms.

the thru test of an american patriot is to delve deep into the world and discover everthingy or as much about it as you can. And for all those who would seek the truth. Then figure out ways to apply those things to the advancement of our species. The presidency is a trust, a trust to provide safe haven for those who would explore the universe and all its magnificancies. A trust to protect those who seek ways to promote our agenda. We represent the ultimate gene proliferation vehicle on this planet. there are those who seek to stymie our evolution, those who seek to destroy all that which has made us mighty. With evil outdated misguided visions of god and creation. Those who seek to prevent us from reaching potential. fear is their motivation and violence is their method. Ignorance and lack of real faith cause them to act in ways to the detriment of us. they seek to throw us into wars, some of which if we engage there will be no turning back. is it not easier to die for your faith, than to live for it. start seeing tthe things around you. take the information provided and use it.

sorry, didnt mean to launch into this particulat lament.

peace,

remember though, be careful what doors you open. Somethings you learn you can never forget. so know the cost of building a house before embarking. B)