As you all know, Hal Jordon will soon return from the dead (again) and take over as Green Lantern and Kyle Rayner will retire. So that brings up the queston, of which GL of the planet Earth is your favorite?

The most powerful one: Alan Scott.
The one who manipulates the ring best: Kyle Rayner.
The one with the strongest willpower: Hal Jordan.

My favorite: None of the above. My favorite is Guy Gardner. That's right, the one true green lantern!

OOPS! I knew I forgot a Green Lantern! Darnit! Allow me to modify that!

Oh and BTW, it sucks that Kyle will retire. They should either keep Hal dead or as the Spectre.

Okay, Guy Gardner was added to the list.

Sorry.

I knew I was forgetting someone, when I posted this. I just couldn't remember who it was.

as i said b4 in another topic kyle is my fav..

I can't believe they're retiring Kyle. He, to, was my Favorite. Grr....

I know what you mean. It seems kind of unfair that Kyle who has been a brillant GL is going to retire (or worse...) and that Hal who betrayed the entire DCU gets to live again and take back the Green Lantern mantle.

I still haven't voted yet. I'm torn between Kyle and John Stewart.

Two things.

Hal Jordan was called Parallax. Not Phallanx. Phallanx were X-Men villains.

Second it's a fact that Hal Jordan and Guy Gardner have the exact same level of Will Power. The Only reason Hal was chosen over Guy was because he's closer.

Besides that Hal's my favourite, Alan Scott second and Kilowog third.

Fixed the Parallax thing. Thanks Mattasm.

As for Kilowog, while I loved him and thought he was a cool character, he wasn't an earth GL, thus explains why he wasn't on the list.

And sure, Hal was a great GL, but his time should be over. He died. He betrayed the whole DCU. He became the ultra-powerful Specter. It sort of seems like a step down.

Plus, I'm still not too sure about him. I might have a 'Bat-mentality' when it comes to him, but... Well he did try to unmake reality and the universe, not to mention destroyed the Green Lantern Corp.

I agree Hal really shouldn't come back, especially if Kyle has to quit. There were times when there 4 Green Lanterns on Earth alone, (Hal, Alan, Guy and John) and that's not counting the thousands in outer space, I don't see why they can't have Four now (Hal, Kyle, Alan and John)

BTW: This is how I personally rank the Green Lanterns

Alan Scott: Most Powerful GL
Hal Jordan: Strongest Will Power GL
John Stewart: Most Detailed GL
Guy Gardner: Most Bad-Ass GL
Kyle Rayner: Most Creative GL
Jade: Sexiest GL (Hey... she did that costume GOOD... :rolleyes: :lol: LOL)

Alan Scott: Third most powerful
Hal Jordan: Strongest Will Power GL/ Second most powerful
John Stewart: Most Detailed GL?
Guy Gardner: Most Bad-Ass GL/ Strongest Will Power
Kyle Rayner: Most Creative GL/ Most Powerful GL
Jade: Sexiest GL (well, duh)

Only Reason Alan Scott'd be the most powerful GL is because his powers are internalised plus he's got the experience thing. However, the rings are only as powerful as a GLs willpower and imagination, meaning that Guy and Hal are most powerful. But then you have to factor in that Kyle had like the Super ring that didn't run out and had no weaknesses and the only problem he had was experience, but then he had the most vivid imagination and so created the best stuff.

The GLs on that list in order of strength in my opinion is:

#1 - Kyle
#2 - Hal (Guy would be joint second most powerful but he's got that brain damage problem)
#3 - Alan
#4 - John
#5 - Jade

John Stewart is an Achitect. So when he creates something with his ring, he imagines the ENTIRE object, from the INSDIDE OUT. If he makes an airplan, he builds EVERY little detail from the screws in the haul to the thickness of the windows. He builds it completely in his mind within seconds. That's why he is the most detailed GL.

Alan Scott's power is litterly made from the core of the Green Lantern Power Battery. The asteriod that gave him his power, was the same thing used to create the central battery. That power was fused into him. He IS the power of the Green Lantern, inside and out.

Guy has a strong will power, true. But not as much as Hal. Because Hal developed his will over time. Guy had the 'I'm the best there is' sort of attitude and never worked to develope his strength. He was so busy thinking he was great, he never noticed Hal suprass him.

Kyle is the most powerful GL who still has a ring. When he was Ion he would have been the most powerful GL period, but now that he is ony Green Lantern again he's no longer more powerful than Alan.

Well, to be honest, I know jack about Green Lantern. How much jack you ask? I've known about Spectre since DC vs Marvel and when I realized it was Hal Jordan I said, "Oh, that's why he told Secret to call him Hal, duh." Pretty out of the loop, right? Anyway, from what I've seen of him in the couple of comics I've read, Kyle seems the coolest so I voted for him lol.

Yeah good point but I'm pretty sure Alan's still got that Vulnerability to Wood. Kyle's ring is flawless. Hal's ring's vulnerable to yellow.

And it's not like Alan's ring just can't affect it, if Alan were to make a shield and then some fired a wooden arrow at him it'd go straight through the shield and make the shield disappear.

You know, that's an interesting point. They haven't said if Alan is still weakened by wood. When he had a the ring, that was a big old yes, but now... They've never really touched on it, have they?

No, they haven't, that's why I was reluctant to mention it, lol.

He still is vulnerable to wood, in "Vice & Virtue" Mr. Terrific attacks him with a celluloid based gas and Alan collapses. But that was written by Geoff Johns' so it could be wrong.

LOL. Good point.

On Alan- I believe that, as Sentinal, he is not vulnerable to wood. During the Final Night series, there is a scene when he is saving people from rubble in Kyoto, and he thinks something along the lines of "You know, there was a time when I would have had to have been worried with all this falling wood. Good thing I'm not vulnerable to that anymore." Then everything goes dark, and he says something like "Ummm... maybe I was wrong about the wood? Jeeze, and I thought I was going to be one of the few who might survive what was coming..." Of course, he wasn't dead after all- the darkness turned out to be Obsidian in his shadow form, but you get the idea.

Also, I was under the impression that Alan's lantern, made from the Starheart meteor, was not from the core of the Central Power Battery, as Robin claimed. I was under the impression that it was far older. From what I know, the Starheart was formed before the Central Power Battery by the Guardians of the Universe when they stripped Oa of all its magic, leaving only "science." All the magic power on Oa was solidified into a meteor, which was sent away from Oa and eventually found its way to Earth, where it was fashioned into the shape of a lantern. many moons later, Alan found the lantern and used a part of it to fashion a ring, thus becomming Earth's first Green Lantern. That's what I always thought, anyway.

On the subject of this poll, I voted for Hal because he has been acknowledged by numerous figures, including the Guardians of the Universe, the Legion of Super Heroes (you guys know by now I had to work them in somehow), Superman and countless others as the Greatest Green Lantern of All Time. Frankly, I can't stand Kyle. I didn't like him when he was introduced, and I still don't like him. He falls into the same category as Kon in my mind- I can't think of him without putting those quotations marks around him. As "Green Lantern," he has been mediocre at best in my mind. He was better than Guy Gardener and G'nort, but not as good as John Stewart, Tomar-Re, Katma Tui or the real great, Hal Jordan. Frankly, I've been hoping for years that they would find a way to get rid of him for good.

That said, however much I love Hal, I don't think I want to see him return as Green Lantern. He is still the greatest of all time, but he did betray the Corps (for that matter, I am not thrilled about the Corps being back either) and try to destroy the Universe (and was, indirectly, responsible for the destruction of the original Legion of Super Heroes, which I still have mixed feelings about). he also repented and gave his life to save the Earth, and was brought back as the Spirit of Vengeance himself, the Spectre. That's a pretty powerful series of events and stories there, and I am not anxious to see it cast asside. Keep Hal as the Spectre. His time as Green Lantern is something I will always look back on fondly, but is not something I want to see come again.

That being said, this is what I would like to see happen- Kyle Rayner dies in some meaningless space accident or due to his own ineptitude (OK, I guess he COULD die heroically, but I dislike him so much I really don't see that as a requirement) and John Stewart becomes the permanent, one-and-only Green Lantern of Earth, with Hal staying on as the Spectre.

Of course, that isn't going to happen because it seems that Kyle is actually pretty popular. I guess I am, once again, in a very tiny minority of opinion.

One thing I will say about Kyle- that story a couple of years back when he was stuck in the 30th century and met the Legion was actually not that bad. Of course, I thought his descendant 1000 years removed was a better GL than he was, but we can't have everything.

As long as the Legion is involved you're happy, huh NutiketAiel. :rolleyes:

As for Sentiel's power, the Starheart meteor, is IN FACT the central core of the GL battery (at least he original one). According to a book that discusses the complete history of DCU (since the crisis) the central battery was made from a piece of the Starkheart meteor. Yes, what you said about the guardians removing magic in exchange for science is true, but the Lantern Core-battery was made fron the starheart meteor. That is how the power is created. Its a mix of magic and science.

I honestly don't see why you hate Kyle so much, though. :huh: I mean, he's been a great Green Lantern.

He's been carrying on the name for years now very well mind you, after HAL JORDAN killed and destroyed the GL corp (major downside in his career) Kyle was also able to withstand being the most powerful being in the universe, when he became Ion. Hal on the other hand became Parallax and went insane with power before he tried to destroy the universe.

At least he didn't go steal the ring and become some jerk character like... oh... I don't know... SPOILER!

OK, I think we can agree on that dislike of Spoiler there.

And, btw, just involving the Legion in a story is not enough to make me happy (though it helps). There have been plenty of stories with the Legion in it, and even Legion stories, that I flat out hated. Like the recent "Foundations" arc in Legion, with Darkseid. man, that was poorly written.

As for why I hate Kyle- at first, I hated him because I saw him as a usurper, an incompetent. I said "Ganthet, what are you doing? You're just giving the ring away!! Go give it to John Stewart, or Batman. Why even a human? What about Tomar-Re? Or ANY of the current GLs? Or G'Nort, he might be better than this nobody. Look, how about Guy? I know he's a jerk, but at least he knows how to use the thing. No, Ganthet, no don't... oh, great. You did. Nice job, Ganthet; there goes the legacy of the Corps. I'm going to go cry now."

Yup, I was pretty pissed off, especially since I was still in shock over what had happened to Hal. But in a couple of weeks I calmed down and decided to give Kyle a chance.

The first thing I want to say is that some of the Kyle Rayner "Green Lantern" stories have been extremely well written, and even if I hate Kyle I have to admit that there was some excellent storytelling along the line. I especially loved how well done the stories about him and his butchered ex-girlfriend (who's name eludes me at the moment for some reason). Fantastic writing.

But nothing in all that time ever changed my opinion of Kyle. I wouldn't have minded him as a Green Lantern, back when the Corps was around (my stars, he was at least better than G'Nort or Guy Gardener), but THE Green Lantern? No, he never made the grade and always remained "Green Lantern" in my mind. Just like Kon was always "Superboy" and Matrix was always "Supergirl." He's a bad replacement who doesn't hold a candle to his predecessor, and I still see him as a bit of a jerk. I never could warm up to him and no matter how much I tried (and I did try, because I loved Green Lantern) I couldn't accept him.

Has he been "carrying the name" for years? Technically, yes. Just like Azrael carried the name of Batman. OK, that's not fair- I wouldn't say that Kyle has been a disgrace to the name of Green Lantern. But he has certainly brought the name no honor in my eyes, and I would be happy to see him go.

As for Hal, yes, he did some terrible things, and a part of me still hasn't forgiven him. But he was mad, completely insane, at the time. Did you see that look on his face in Zero Hour? He had COMPLETELY LOST IT!! From the point that the Guardians of the Universe refused to restore Coast City all the way up untill his death destroying the Sun Eater he had (in my mind) only one moment of lucidity- just before he killed Killowog, when the big guy had managed to talk some sense into him for a few seconds and he was remorseful. After that, it was just downhill. he was a complete lunatic, barely responsible for his actions, and he has repented a thousand times since then. I have found it in my heart to forgive him... can't you?

I think I'm going to start a poll on that question, actually...

How on earth is Kyle a usper? Hal killed of the entire Green Lantern Corp! the Guardians choose Kyle to be the new GL. A usper means that he would have intentionally stole the mantle of the Green Lantern. Kyle was GIVEN the ring. He didn't take it from anyone.

Hal brought completely shame to the Green Lantern Corp, because of his actions. He wasn't insane. He was greiving. Big difference.