Note that even if you do vote to forgive Hal Jordan, that does not mean that you want him to come back as Green Lantern (see the discussion in the "Favorite Green Lantern" poll).

As much as I liked the original Legion and am sorry that they are gone, Jordan wasn't fully responsible for his own actions when he destroyed the corps and tried to destroy the Universe. He was completely mad, hopelessly insane and off his rocker.

But he's better now!

I'm a Superman fan, not a Batman fan. My point of view is way, way different then the people in this site (mostly Batman fans). I think that Jordan should be eventually forgiven, but he has to pay for what he has done and in a way becoming Spectre was bein' his punishment and I liked a lot that Hal became Spectre.

The person who decided to retire Kyle should be shot. He made the "Green Lantern" name, who had belong to several others, his own. He should never give it up.

Do I forgive Hal Jordan? No. Not entirely. He was a Green Lantern and a hero. He did some major evil. He killed his friends, his mentors and became a power-hungry psycho bent on destroying existance. Not something you fovige easily.

Do I think he has repented. Yes and No. I don't recall him ever actually saying he was sorry for what he did. His time as Specter shows a bit of regret, but I don't recall him saying 'I'm sorry'

And Hal, was responisble for his actions. Yes, he was driven by grief, but he knew what he was doing. From a legal stand-point his actions were pre-meditated and sane, and should be held responisible for his action.

Of course, AFTER he stole the power of the Green Lantern and became corrupted... well THEN he was insane by the amount of power he had.

So do I forgive Hal Jordon? No. And I probably never will.

Do I still like Hal Jordan? Of course I do. You don't just cast a great character like him aside. It would be like tossing Azreal aside for what he did as Batman.

Actually, I never really liked Azrael to begin with, much less after what he did to Batman, but hey, what are you going to do.

I find something interesting in Fab's comment:

In my view, there are three kinds of approaches to comics.

1. Superman Fans, who try to see the best of everybody, tend to be a little more forgiving of characters, and a lot less dark.

2. Batman Fans, who see the worst of everybody, hardly ever forgive a character for a past transgression and are very dark. And seem to think that anybody who has a bat on his or her chest is inherently better than anybody who doesn't.

3. Legion Fans, who usually see the best in everybody, but occassionally acknowledge the worst, but are usually forgiving. And aren't so wedded to the idea that the "Holy Trinity" are so perfect that they can never be beaten, even if their foe happens to have an "L" on their finger.

Regardless, I digress.

I'm not talking about legal definitions of insane and responsible for one's actions (by the stars, I disagree with US Law enough on so many issues). I mean, just look at what he did. He went from being one of the greatest heroes in the Universe and THE greatest hero of all time, loyal servant of the Guardians, to someone who would toss asside it all and betray his long time friends and allies, many of whom he trained personally, recruited personally, who looked up to him as an Icon. Or who he looked up to, like Killowog.

These are not the acts of a balanced, sane individual. The destruction of Coast City and subsequent refusal fo the Guardians to restore it drove Hal mad. Was what he did right? Absolutely not. Can we hold him responsible for it, especially now that he has come to his senses and tried to atone? No.

Though I do agree with you that he has remained a great character even after the change.

Hmmmm, I don't see where I fit in that lol, maybe between a Superman and Batman fan. Oh yeah! I have my own clique! I shall dub it, a CramGod fan!

It is law, therfore it is so, the Cram God has spoken.

I guess I forgive him, of course me forgiving Hal is like almost of the non-YJ Titans warming up to Harm, they don't really know what he did lol.

NutiketAiel, first the Legion can't beat the Holy Trinity, much less the JLA. You must accept that and move on.

As for you interpretation of Fans... Well the Legion Fan aspect only applies to a small group, I fear. Frankly, I've never heard of them being in comparision to Superman and Batman, but I digress.

The three kinds of DC fans are Super, Bat, and Wonder.

Super: They try to see the best of everybody, tend to be a little more forgiving of characters, and a lot less dark.

Bat: They are the more realistic. They know that not everything has a happy ending, and are less willing to forgive major things that hurt innocent people who didn't deserve it. They look at things logically where others look at thing emotionally. They appear cold, only because they know that emotions can cloud the truth.

Wonder: They are the middle-ground. They wish to believe in the good, but know that it does not always exist.

Hal Jordan was a hero. He was grieving, but he was never insane. And on a legal and emotional sense, Hal must be held responisible for his actions. Actions that he carried out under his own will.

He wanted the Gaurdians to do something that they couldn't. He behaved like a villan, but his actions were pre-mediated and his own. He doesn't deserve pity. He knew what he was asking for. He knew that it couldn't be done.

He's still a great hero, but that aspect of his life will always be held against him.