DC: 11
Marvel: 3

And a matchup made because the demand for it was just so friggin high I had no choice but to make it. Time Trapper against Madam Web! Make your bets and get to clicking! :D

I voted for Madame Web.

Not so much because I think she is stronger than Time Trapper (Honestly I don't know the full extent of Madame Web's power in comparision), but because Jim's insane obsession with Time Trapper (and constant mentioning of him in every single story idea for a very long time) has made me absolutely HATE Time Trapper with a bloody vengence. :ouchy:

(And why do I think the only person who demanded a Time Trapper match up was Jim? Hmm... maybe because good money is saying that it was.)

Actually, I've never even heard of Madame Web.

I might have asked for a Time Trapper match some time ago, but I really can't remember who I asked for that match to be against. Definitely not Madame Web.

Although I (obviously) voted for Time Trapper, perhaps it would help if you could tell us all just who Madame Web is and what, exactly, she can do?

Maybe it would be educational if you both told up the 411 on your votes. Please.

I would be happy to.

The Time Trapper is [argueably] the Legion's greatest foe. I say argueably because there are some who give that title to Mordru; however, they have always been in the distinct minority, and although Time Trapper has never chosen to go up against Mordru directly, when the two have clashed the Time Trapper has always come out on top in the end.

To put it succinctly, the Time Trapper has near-complete control of time. He can pull people and things from one era and drop them into another. He can affect the time travelling trips of other individuals, or prevent them from making any. He can create his own pocket universes and manipulate them in any way he sees fit- the most prominent example of this being when he took a slice of prehistoric time, turned it into his own pocket universe, destroyed every world in it except for Earth and Krypton and then used it to grow his own Superboy of the pre-crisis variety. He then engineered it so all the Legion's time travelling actually took them to this world, despite Brainiac 5's (smartest denizen of the 30th century) every effort. This universe also went on to become the birthplace of the Matrix "Supergirl" (you remember, the protoplasmy one). This feat is even more impressive given that it all took place post-crisis, when all alternate universes had been destroyed!

He has knowledge of almost everything that has ever taken place.

He has enough power to move about in vanishing point without the knowledge of the Linear Men, the so-called Guardians of the Timestream.

He survived several direct attacks by Paralax during the Zero Hour crisis.

He, at one time, used one of the Controllers, a race of rogue Guardians of the Universe, as one of his pawns, and destroyed said Guardian of the Universe on a whim when he displeased the Time Trapper.

He has beaten the original Brainiac in a game of chess (a feat much more impressive than it sounds).

Once, as he was about to be [apparently] destroyed, he bonded himself to M'Onel, ensuring that his consciousness would survive by being attached to one of the most indestructible beings in the universe, despite the radical changes that his apparent "destruction" wrought in the timeline (which, again, he was unchanged by).

He tricked Extant into thinking that heroes the Time Trapper had planted were his own in the Team Titans assasins, despite Extant's powers and knowledge of the timestream (you remember the Terra controversy, right?). Oh, and by the way, he brought Terra back from the dead in the course of all this.

He created exact duplicates of the Legion of Super Heroes and hid them outside time untill they were needed. Then, he led them to recombine with the original Legionnaires as the Zero Hour crisis was destroying the 30th Century; thusly, he made possible the original Legion's sacrafice which saved the 30th Century for the future (i.e., the post-Reboot Legion that my Lyle is a part of).

He remembers all incarnations of himself, in every alternate universe and timeline that has ever existed- he even remembers the Crisis, and everything that took place in it.

He is a master manipulator, tugging the Legion, Mordru, Extant, the New Titans and countless others on his strings from his fortress at the Omega Point- the End of Time, where all things meet their destruction unless the Time Trapper wills otherwise.

He is, quite frankly, a God. I would put him against anyone in the DCU or the Marvel Universe.

That's the 411 on the Time Trapper. I stand ready to answer any questions.

Actually Jim, you didn't mention Time Trapper at all when you sent me you picks lol. This match was a request from someone who chooses to remain anonomous. :P

And I actually don't know too much about Madame Web myself. I only know her from the Spider Man cartoon and she was uber mysterious in that. But if memory serves she has some control over dimensions and time herself, I'm just not sure how much or how the comic book version differs from the cartoon, it did tend to change powers and origins a good bit like with Black Cat and Venom/Carnage.

Well, does anybody have detailed information about the comic book version?

Perhaps your annonymous requestor could tell you what she is all about, and then you could tell us?

Cassandra Web, better known as Madam Web, is a sometime ally of Spiderman. She was blind since birth and was dependant on a web-like cybernetically linked external life support system to keep her alive due to Myasthenia Gravis, a disease which erodes the central nervous system..
Her powers come from a genetic mutation brought out from the life support and her sickness in conjunction; She is a psychic, with sensory powers, which include clairvoyance, telepathy and precognition. She also has the ability to sense the presence of psionic powers in other beings and after the Gathering and her rebirth she can take on astral forms and time.

She was introduced in Amazing Spiderman #210 in November 1980, as a teacher of paranormal phenomenon, or as a clairvoyant as Peter Parker so sceptically called her. She was a frail, elderly lady who was only alive due to the technology that surrounded her. Through her gifts she was able to locate the publisher of the ‘Daily Globe’ who had gone missing, Peter met her as Spiderman on this occasion. Madam Web later told called him to tell him that she knew Peter Parker and Spiderman were one and the same, after that he wasn’t as sceptical seeing as she called his house calling him Spiderman without him giving the number or an indication of where he lived..
Six issues later she was back in the same role, a source of information, this time over an assassination attempt on a marathon runner.

She remained out of comics for over a year and a half until she returned for one of the greatest Spiderman stories of all time.
In Amazing Spiderman #230 Black Tom Cassidy sought Madam Web out. He intended to use her psychic powers for his own gain but, once located, Black took no time in informing The Juggernaut, Cain Marko, to collect her. With her powers, she knew this and informed Spiderman, though he fought to protect her he couldn’t stop The Juggernaut who, when he went to pick her up, was oblivious to the intricacies of her life-support system, designed by her deceased husband, Jonathan Webb. Leaving her for dead, Black and Marko fled the scene. Madam Web suffered sever shock, and brain damage, this also brought about some serious amnesia so when both Spiderman and Peter Parker visited the elderly woman she forgot that Peter was Spiderman.
Not till ‘Spider-man #96’ was she seen again and it was at this point, when she was very old, decrepit and feeble, soon to die from the malady that had plagued her entire life, that she was offered the opportunity to participate in the ‘Gathering of Five’ by Norman Osborn.

Originally she resisted Norman but eventually she accepted his "promise" of immortality and participated in the Gathering. Sending Spidey through her precognitive flashes in her astral world which is how she sends herself or others through time, she was able to manipulate him into getting her the five stone fragments needed for the ritual.
At first, she was thought to have "won" the "prize" of death, but it turned out all but good for Ms. Web: She became much younger, and was now able to take on an astral form, Made immortal.
A short while later she showed up again looking pretty good for her age in the Spiderwoman comics where she lead the initial formation of the ‘Spiderwoman team’ by recruiting the three incantations of the webbed woman. Jessica Drew, Julia Carpenter and the current heroine, Martha Franklin who had also taken part in the ‘Gathering’, in order to bring down Madam Webs own Granddaughter: The Evil Spider-Woman IV, Charlotte Witter who was under the tutelage of Doctor Octopus.

Aha. We seem to have a 5 to 5 tie.

Perhaps my vote should count twice since I am, after all, completely unbiased on this issue. :-D

MWAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!! TWAS I WHO REQUESTED THIS MATCH-UP!!!

And I broke the tie.......Sorry Alan.

Your dead to me Lani. :pissed:

WOW!! TIME TRAPPER WON!!

WOO HOO!! THIS IS BETTER THAN CHRISTMAS, MY BIRTHDAY AND MY GRADUATION DAY COMBINED!!

LET DECEMBER 7, 2004 BE FOREVER KNOWN AS TIME TRAPPER DAY!!

In all seriousness, though, as much as you hate Time Trapper, Alan, you have to admit that in terms of power and abilities he is a legitimate winner in this one. Madame Web seems fascinating and powerful, but I think that Time Trapper definitely edges her out in this contest.

And Lani... YOU requested the match-up? You did?

You may be dead to Alan, but you're my new favorite person!! Horray for Lani!! I'm your biggest fan!!

In fact, Marx, can you add "Lani's Biggest Fan" to my titles, please? At your earliest convenience, of course.

Happy Time Trapper Day, everyone!!

YAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!

I'm going to go celebrate!!

<.< Er...you do know there's still another week of voting for this match right? lol

Oh, crap.

:blink:2

I admit nothing Jim. You see, I HATE Time Trapper (its all your fault, remember that), thus I think he sucks. And don't count that Time Trapper has the edge. More powerful beings than him have been defeated by weaker opponents.

And like Marx said, don't jump the gun. He still has a week in which to lose.

And by the way. Do we really want to add 'Lani's biggest fan' to his title. Remember when he became obsessed with her and he had to set him on fire? Does this mean we have to do it again? Because I've got several blow torches ready and waiting.

Hey, hey, that won't happen this time! I've got it all out of my system, now.

I'm the GOOD kind of fan. Not the crazy creepy stalker kind of fan. :-)

Liar. We've seen the shrine. We've seen you going through her garbage. sicko...

Awww, sorry to disappoint you Jim but it seems you did celebrate a little too soon. YOU JINXED YOURSELF! *shakes head* Poor poor guy. For it seems Madame Web took advantage of almost all godlike creature's ability to underestimate they're opponents and she wrapped him up in webs so he ran away because he knew how stupid you look when you're wrapped in webs...