...Looks like a flop.
*can just hear you all saying "but Jake, tell us how you really feel.*
The costume's so... underdeveloped. I mean I hate the batnipples more than anyone, but that costume looks like a haloween costume and not a particularly good one and the story sounds very lacking and with little if any continuity.
Yuck.

Actually I only a couple of things bothered me. The red, too dark, and the "S", too small, but Brandon Routh is a perfect fit for the role. He might be even better than Tom Welling and almost as good as Chris Reeve (note that I said "ALMOST") and this movie is in continuity... sorta.

This movie will pick up where the second movie left off. I have a lot of faith in these people Bryan Singer is a great director, they also have the dude who wrote "X-men I & II" so this might be really good.

I'm with Jake on this. The Superman outfit looks like a bad Halloween costume, and I don't much like the story idea. It might have just been better to start the franchise from scratch rather than try to continue what Christopher Reeves started.

Meh. I don't care really as long as they tell a good story and doesn't turn Superman into a one-eyed Japanese Milkman/white supremacist serial killer, I don't care. Stay truthful to the character and tell me a good story, that's all I ask.

I'm reserving my final judgement, until the movie comes out, but so far I'm not impressed. And after Superman 2, 3, you can't blame me too much.

I think you mean Superman three and four. Because Supes II kicked butt. And well, the same can be said about Batman then.

No, Superman 2, 3 and 4 were all kind of weak. Superman 1 was brillant, the other 3 felt a bit forced forced though 2 was far better than 3 and 4.

And at least the new Batman movie is going back to the proper character context, brooding, dark and no nipples. Aside from the Batmobile (its kinda over the top) that one looks more impressive.

The way superman looks in that image... its not all the inspiring. Christopher Reeves just commanded the Superman prescence. This isn't against the actor in the new movie, but its the costume frankly.

"Come Son of Jor-El kneel before Zod!!" G. Zod

Upon seeing the Eagle in the Oval Office Floor: "Good. You worship things that fly!"

C'mon, that movie was awesome!! Not as good as the first, which is still by far the best comic book movie of all times. But it was pretty impressive.

And I won't pass a judgement. I didn't like Tobey Maguire as Peter Parker and that turned out impressive. Brandon Routh as Clark Kent looks perfect. So I'll wait. I respect ur opinion though. But I disagree. :D

Brendon looks good as Clark. Not as Superman. And its not the actor's fault as I said. Its the costume. It looks like something a fanboy wears to a comic convention.

And sorry, but Superman 2 was not as spectactular in my opinion.

As for Tobey MacGuire, it was a perfect match. He looks like Peter Parker. A nerdy awkward kid. When I heard about him during the first film, i could see it work.

Blecch. I hate to say it, but I agree. Granted, I'm a big TW fan myself... though that's mainly from knowing Tom's work on "Smallville". Haven't a clue about this new kid on the block.... though he *does* fill out the ill-designed tights quite a bit. I almost feel as if I should congratulate the blood that makes it past his neck.

In any case, I tend to keep to my own council these days on whether things will work or they won't. In the case of Superman III and Superman IV... well, they TRIED. Give 'em that much. III was a bomb no question... if memory serves, the baddies weren't even known rogues. Though in it's defense I have to say, having Superman go through a split personality, WAS ingenious thinking. As for IV... well, blame the delivery. Christopher Reeve concocted the story, and the sticking point was the nuclear weapons angle. The whole world peace idea just... didn't fly. Maybe back in the late 60's or early 70's.... but it fell flat. That, and the Super-Clone. I mean... ecch. Not much for a resemblance to Blue, there. Mind you, I don't mind guys who are blond, big, and DUMB... but that super-clone was a weak selling point.

Though now that I think of it... he reminds me a bit of Match.

Yeah, the III was lame in a lot of different levels. But I agree with you the split Superman sequence was amazing and that is Chris Reeve at his best.

As for the IV people say that the movie was supposed to be awesome. The story I read, oh Superherohyp I think, says that the original cut of Superman IV has 130 minutes. But for some reasons the producers decided that it was too long so they sent the movie back to the editing room.

They say that this original cut was unbelieveble, but I guess we'll never know. I like the directing and editing in the IV but the script was just too weak. And I don't think the problem was the message. The whole Nuclear thing was a big issue back in the 80's with the US and Soviet Union.

I like the whole Peace message, and I think these days we would need Superman sending these message again, but they surely needed a better screenplay. I just love "Superman II" through and through. The action sequences are amazing.

I'm not going to say an unkind work about "Superman Return" . I think that they're trying to get it right, from hiring a good filmmaker, a good writer, a great f/x team and an amazing cast (Frank Langella, Kate Bosworth and Kevin freakin' Spacey).

Well, that's pretty much it.

Ok first off.... noone comes even almost close to Reeves at filling any superhero role. Call me old fashioned and then bite me.

However, that said... Best Comic Book Movie: Batman Returns

Ok, and as for the last two Supe movies... I think they're miles and miles better than the most recent Batman movie. Now Richard Prior was in IV not III, right? Prior is the man.

Whoever said it was right, the new kid looks like he'd make a good Clark Kent. But I do think it can be expected that he put on some more muscle mass. I mean Tobey buffed up for the first spiderman... and I'm sure Rebecca Romjin even worked out a bit extra to prance around in X-men naked (ok prolly not).

And who thinks Spacey will be playing the villain. As far as I'm concerned he was God in 'the ussual suspects' and i'd like to see him pull off a DC baddie...

And let me see if I understand... You thought the last two Superman movies were better than the upcoming Batman movie or did you mean the previous Batman movies (Forever and Batman and Robin).

Because I'll agree the Batman Forver and Batman and Robin sucked serious ass (A 21 year old Dick Grayson becoming the ward of Bruce Wayne and all those one-liners? WTF?). I still think the last 3 Superman movies were badly done as well, but Forever and Batman and Robin made drying paint look good.

But if you mean new move, no way. That movie looks very well done. They've got a strong Batman, a jIm Gordon that looks like Jim Gordon and not a fat bloated joke, and a good bat-costume. The batmobile isn't that great though.

However, that said... Best Comic Book Movie: Batman Returns

That's u. I hate all of Batman's films. Jeeze, the Bruce kills in the movie that sucks ass.

Yeah, no one was ever happy about them revoking the 'no killing' policy, but the rest of the movie was brillant. And BTW: in Batman Return and Batman and Robin, Bruce didn't kill anyone. Penguin fell, when the bats knocked him through the skylight died from the imapct. Catwoman wasn't really dead, and Max was killed by Catwoman. And in Batman and Robin, no one died (though they all should have...)

Joker might have lived in the first Batman movie, he had only let go of the helicopter. And Two-Face... well yeah that was basically murder, wasn't it?

Loop hole to that one!!
In Batman and Robin, when Ivy is breaking into the asylum to get freeze out she sends Bane to get his Cryo-suit. In the 'Laundry room'* there's both the Riddlers and Two-Faces jackets. This must mean he's in the Asylum too right.

And I like all the Bat films, my favorite character is actually Robin. Possibly because he first showed up in Forever in 1995 when i was 10 and had never read a comic in my life. And then Batman and Robin came out in 97, I was 12 and had a thing for Jerry O'Connell, and Chris O'Donnell was kinda the same.

I only found out about the different Robins and stuff when i was 16 but by then i'd seen the films too much to care. Jeeze, its just a movie. ^_^

*"Wow! Finally a laundry service that delivers" - Freeze.

Alright Lani, the fever has reached your brain and you must be destroyed (loads a blowtorch.) Don't worry. It won't hurt a bit, until the scathing flame tear through your flesh.

And no, I'm afraid Two-Face was dead. They showed his corpse at the end remember? That was probably just a left-over costume, and the lazy bums at Arkham didn't throw it out. (They actually liked to dress up in their off hours. Steve last week wore the Poision Ivy swimsuit...)

And please don't quote those god-awful Batman and Robin phrases Lani. That's all the B&R movie was. A bunch of non-sensical one-liners. It sends me into a murderous rage where I end up trying to kill Joel Schumacker and stuff his own nippled-Batman costume up his narrowed, idiotic, irrelevant, and comic-book challanged arse. (I almost had him once, if he stupid wife hadn't called the cops...)

"No more curtains One..And Two...Just plain Curtains!!" - Twoface

They show his hand sinking into the water and by all probable accounts he should have died...BUT the fact that the coat is in the 'Laundry room' means he lives!!
And it means they didn;t make Bats a killer!

"So do you have a first name or do we just call you Bats?" - Chase

(I'm hoping to send you into that rage where you end up trying to kill Joel Schumacker and stuff his own nippled-Batman costume up his narrowed, idiotic, irrelevant, and comic-book challanged arse instead of burning me. Although it wouldn't work it would have you saying. "Why can't I kill you?!")

"oooo, Nice form!! A little rough on the landing! He may have to settle for the bronze..." - Riddler

*Later this evening Joel Shumacker is found dead, beaten to death with the unconcious body of Lani (who was tied with ducktape to make her into the perfect human baseball bat) and a bat-costume stuffed up his arse. A note is attached to her which reads...*

"SHE PUSHED ME. I WARNED HER AND SHE PUSHED ME"

*Alan is take to court, but not convicted. The jury and judge found him not guily, because it was justifable homicide.*

*Alan then wakes up as a resident of Arkam, conveniently next door to Two-Face who didn't actually die. (we can tell this becasue he was heard saying "Tell me Doctor, Do you like the Circus?")

*Alans treatment it to watch the last two movies over and over becasue they are PG, Batman and Returns are both 15 and the doctors are worried what they would do to his mind.

*Lani then wakes up still tied up and laying next to the body of Joel Shumacker, realizing that it had all just happened and that the insane Alan in Arkham (since Arkham is ficticious) thing was just in her warped B&R luving head.*

Cop: So she's the sicko who like the move?

Cop2: Yup.

Cop: Get the tazer.

*Two can play at that game Lani.*

*The Two Cops then go after Alan with the Tazer. Lani may like the movies but she never tied anyone up and used their body as an offensive weapon. (She tends to use just a severed limb)

*Alan is thusly arrested, not for the murder because we're not playing Double Jeopardy here, but for the violent abuse of Lani. Meanie

*The Judge overturns the conviction because Lani had all the jury members and the cops who attacked Alan, threatened with watching the B&R movie and because he was provoked into a psychotic rage which gave him a good psych-defense. Even the D.A. thought it was the right choice. Lani is arrested and made to be Martha Stewart's 'special friend'. Alan is given a public apology.*

~Sits back and watches the entire thing like a movie.~ Popcorn! I need popcorn! ~Mutant chimp butle hands giganormous(my word!) bag of popcorn~

You know, watcvhing this in more fun than the last two batman movies combined. I was to young to know of the comics and even I thought they sucked.

*sits next to Falcon* I actually liked Forever, but I totally agree, much more entertaining.

"OBJECTION!! Leading the witness. Miss A DuBois would never do such a thing as to inforce her ideals and personal views on to others without the use of duct tape. As the members of the jury can tell, they have not been touched by the aforementioned tape or even been spoken to by Miss A DuBois and that they watched said movies of their own free will. Mr A Diaz has been causing Liable about my client and should be removed. His testamony should also be also null and void. Plus his wanted sugestion about Martha Stewart was just wrong" - My Lawer. Mr T.Face (Alive and well)

"Sustained. Miss DuBois you are pardened and may go free to watch what ever you please. Mr Diaz, Cool your jets and go watch whatever YOU want after your community service. 18 months of personal attendance to Mr Michael Jackson" Judge (The Penguin) "MWAJAJAJAJAAAA"

"Visit Laniland today!!" The Joker

*Batman, Robin, Nightwing and Batgirl (the comic versions) shows up and beats the hell out of Joker, Penguin and Two-Face (movie-verse is still dead, so this has to be comic-verse) and takes them to Arkham (which is still fictious...)*

The real Judge shows up and as does the real Defense attorney since Two-Face is too mentally unhinged to be a lawyer anymore, and would never be allowed to someone else's case since it is a miscarry of justice. Penguin never passed the bar either.

Judge Mathus: Okay... that was random and bizarre. Where were we?

D.A. McCoy: Unlike Mr. Dent's previous claim, we have not lead the witness if we did not cross-examine them yet. We also have documented evidence of the Miss A DuBois inciting Mr. Diaz, signed testamony by each the jurers from the previous case, followed by a complete psych evaluation from the court psychiatrist. Mr. Diaz's testamony had no grounds for dismisal, as it pertains to the core argement of the case.

Judge Mathus: Agreed. Miss A DuBois, as a result of jury tampering, slander, and inciting an obviously slightly unhinged Batman Fan against a director... well... I can't blame anyone for killing him. The A$$hole deserved to die. Hm.... Alright, you owe the court one dollar for the jury tampering and the slander. But since you helped cause the death of Schumacker, we'll let you off with a warning. We also request 20 hours of voluntary psych-treatment for your B&R fixation.

D.A. McCoy: You're honor...

Judge Mathus: My hands are tied Mister McCoy. Take it or leave it.

*Adds yet another councelling session to her timetable while rocking back and forth.*

And you wonder why i'm so busy!!

<< Rock Falls! Everyone dies!!

Hehe. The answer to all arguements.

ROCKS FALL AND EVERYONE DIES!

yup, that and Lani's always right ^_^

You're always.... (Falls to the ground in hysterical laughter) Oh my god! You said that with a straight face! You deserve the oscar for that! :lol:2 :lol:2

Ah... its funny cause its sad...

......Actually that face is more smirking.....
But the fact that there is a Specific Oscar just tells everything though huh :D
*Adds to her Award Room while writing in another session with Dr Quinzel*

Sorry, Doctor Quinzell when crazy again. We've got Doctor Phill lined up though?

Who's Doctor Phill?

An ass of a TV psychiatrist who will more likely get drunk and beat you than actually help you.... I mean a very nice man. :D

.....I'll stick with the crazy lady, least we have one thing in common, and i don't mean our love for shoes.

Yeah... but ya can't have a crazy woman as your shrink... kinda defeats the purpose, especially since she has to leave your sessions to go to electro-shock...

Hey, its either the crazy woman or murderous rampage with a Rent-A-Zilla, and your house is first on the list Mr 'I'll-Use-Lani-As-An-Offensive-Weapon'!

I demand Crazy!!

Well you can't really get crazy. That defeats the puropse of seeing a shrink. We're trying to make you well. Not a homicdal super-villain who dresses badly. Besides, I own Rent-A-robo-Zilla. My monster can beat up your monster.