It has finally happened. J.K. Rowling has submitted the tranuscript (sp?) for Book 6 (Harry Potter & the Half-Blood Prince) to her English-language publishers. She says they're hoping for a release date within 24 hours. So rejoice and be glad!!

Rejoice? Why? Now we get to hear more british kids talk on Tv..6th? Isnt the 7th going to be the last?

Bleah, I don't like Harry Potter much, I think Harry Potter is overated, and yes I have read the books I think her writing skills degraded after all those books, she made the series much too long....

I am intrigued. Sure, Harry Potter is oftentimes considered a pre-teen or early teen book, but the plot is rather interesting and suspenseful. I can't wait until it comes out. Order of the Phoenix was pretty good, so I expect more suspense and events in this.

I have a high expectation for this upcoming (and the 7th) book, and I hope Rowling lives up to it lol. The title also interests me...half-blood...just like ol' Voldemort.

I suppose it's interesting, but it seems kinda predicable now in a way. You know Harry when he gets to school there's going to be trouble for him, you know voldomort now that he has risen will fight harry, you know in the 7th there's gonna be a big showdown, you know one way or the other with harry possibly losing his friends or some devastating thing that happens to him he will survie and win. THE END

But there is more to the plot than just this and that.

I do, however, agree with the predictability of what you stated, but there are several things that come as a surprise. Such events as you describe is typical for most books, but that's just looking at it superficially.

I do, however, concur with you on the lengthiness and stuff of the books, but detail is essential.

Half blood..Why the hell does hermoine cry when she's called a mud blood? OH NO I HAVE HALF HUMAN ORIGINS!..damn

Eh asides from the fact that the comment you made was poitnless and the cursing was unecessary, she cries when she's called a Mudblood only once: when she was 12. She's a girl and she's 12. She has a rather anti-social and study-focused personality, and she's young. That's the only time she cries.

And wait, Half-blood is not an insult. What does Hermione being a Mudblood have to do with th "Half-Blood" thing?

Voldermort is not the half-blood prince, as stated by her-who-shall-not-be-named.

...and mudblood doesn't relate to half-blood, but of "dirtied blood"---a witch/wizard being born of human parents (neither magical).

I am aware of that. He is a half-blood is what I was pointing out, but I was not saying that he is the prince.

And I am aware of the Mudblood thing. That is why I poitned out |8|)219's pointless post.

But the strange thing is Volomort; who himself is half-blood puts into his creed so on that pure-blood people should remain when he's half-blood himself. Or something close, but it's like he's preaching only pure blood are worthy while he's half-blooded. Hyprocrite. And like John Kerry, flip-flop......(I don't support Bush that much but he's better than that old man)

No...he is a pure-breed supremicist because of this shortcomming. He resents his human father, going so far as forsaking his name and changing it. He thinks that there should only be pedigreed magic folk, no mudbloods or halfbloods.

But he's a halfblood you cry!
-Who gives a flying ___k? He hates what he is.

(Kinda reminds me of Clayton Bigsby...[Chapelle show]...the black, white supremicist.)

So it's like he hates himself? Is that how it is? No that doesn't make sense, becuase he doesn't but he hates his parents for making him half-blood I think.

Yes yes I know that, his orignal name was Tom Riddle and then he changed it to Voldomort.

He doesn't hate who he is...he enjoys being an evil little bastard.

He hates what he is...a half blood.

He doesn't hate himself...he hates what he was born...
--so, essentially, he hates his class (of blood), not his being.

Personally I hate Harry Potter because it's over done, not to mention filled with evil. Plus when it comes out my door will be blocked by little kids with their parents on the evilest day of the year. I live by a book store.

*pats K-62* I simpatize, but lighten up; you get the other books first, like ERAGON! Eragon is way cooler than Harry Potter. Harry Potter is a series too long, besides RK makes more money that way. The series's quality degraded too after awhile, the books aren't as good anymore.

Your opinion of course.

The story is building more suspense and gets into deeper characterization as we go along buddy.

Harry Potter is bad for little kids because 1 its EVIL and 2 it makes them and their "lets play along" parents go through so much trouble of waiting in line at night and read that evil womans evil book of evil things. Which the last one was released on the evilest night of the year on the hour of death.

My grandmothers really big on stuff about good and bad chi. Thats how I know.

Huh?

But hey it's a fun read, no?

I dont remember the date but its call "the night of the witch(bad translaion)" and midnight on that day is called the hour of death. The story goes what ever evil is proformed that night if on that hour was be forever stronge and somthing(cant seem to find the right word).

Ya, I got to amit its a ok store, just that I'm not really into it. I read some the first one in grade 4 cause my teacher made the whole class do it. She said something about being go for use to read about 'something different'.

*looks at book shelf above* speaking of books... I need to finish the rest of the Series of Unfortunate Events books... and see the movie... and get more Calvin and Hobbes comics... gah... anyway yup, my Harry Potter books are up there too... they are good books... and I thought the 8th one was going to be the last :blink: .... gah, anyway... I hope those whole Christ Supporters don't go ranting again about how it deals with witch craft and is linked to satan and crap like that, my dads side is religous and my cousin wasn't alloud to read the Harry Potter books...

Well, this is one of the times when Amendment One of the Constitution kicks in....

I am not a Christian but I do find - and I mean no offense to anyone here - that their firm faith in their religion shows religious intolerance. This is based on my personal experience, and it, of course, does not apply to all Christians.

Thing is, though, books are one of the times when you can do whatever you want to. If you can't accetp that, then no one likes you XP

I know what you saying Blade.

I live in Texas and I still get kids at school saying I killed Christ and I'm going to hell. (jewish :D )

I've always liked the HP books. I think they have actually gotten better. She has done a great job of letting her characters grow and change as they become adults. I also love how the books continue to get darker and darker, right now I just want to know who dies in book 6.

btw, yes we all know Harry will end up facing Voldemort in 7, but come on! You can't tell me you were surprised when Luke blew up the Deathstar or when the Ring of Power was dropped into Mt. Doom. What I care about is how it gets accomplished and that happens along the way.

Amen, Blade. That's why I'm agnostic
(An agnostic, in this particular contest, is one who doubts the truth of religion. He believes, essentially, that God does eist, ut is far greater than can possibly be comprehended by humans.)

And back to the topic...
I actually find that there is an improving thread about the Rowling Books:
The Second was better than the first.
The Third was better than the Second
The Fourth was, IMO, not as good as the Third, but better than the Second.
The Fifth was better than the Third/Fourth

And furthermore, a lot of people here (That is to say, in my neighborhood) compare the Potter books (unfavorably, of course) with the Tolkien trilogy. What they are pathetically oblivious to is the fact that
A: The target audience of the Potter books is younger than the people who generally read Tolkien, and
B: The Lord of the Rings is an epic, its scope is far greater than that of the Potter books. THey're completely different. Comparing the works of Tolkien, who incidentally pioneered the fantasy genre as we know it today, to those of Rowling is like comparing Homer's Illiad or Odyssey to Walt Disney's Hercules cartoon, or the original Star Wars films to Disney's Buzz Lightyear of Star Command cartoon.

And I totally agree with Vega's point as well.

Meh, I all out agree with both Vega and Sky.

Sky, I am familiar with agnostics. I have a couple of friends who are agnostics as well.

The thing I don't like about Rowling's books is her style. She tends to use more words than she needs to in some instances. But Sky, I do think that Rowling has taken some references from LOTR. For example, the "Dark Lord" is Sauron, and Rowling repeatedly uses that term....

I agree with Blade, Vega, and Sky on all the topics. Who thinks dementors might have been inspired by the Ring Wraiths?

I am a big Harry Potter fan, got all the books and movies (that are out of course). Looking forward to six.

It's been overstated.. but anyone capable of anstract thought could tell Harry will face Voldemort in book 7.. that's not the point as it has been said.

We did learn in book 5, only Voldemort can kill Harry, and only Harry can kill Voldemort.. when the time comes, it's either Harry, or Voldemort.

And to all the stuff about people saying it deals with Devil worship and all that crap.. I just say pshaw... it's stupid in my opinion, but people have the right to their beliefs.. so those who don't like it, don't read it.. yes I know it isn't always that simple, but, oh well. Personally, I ignore that stuff.. the books are very entertaining and are some of the only books that have made me want to just read them whenever there was nothing else to do, because I wanted to know what happened.. my mom is in to them too..

I have noticed that with each book, they get bigger and the font smaller.. book 7 will be huge.. but that's exceptable. I am already wondering how they are getting along with movie 4... too much stuff for a 2 or so hour movie.. and too much that can't be cut out without altering the story.... we'll have to see.

I actually think that Order of the Phoenix could have stood to be a lot shorter. When you think about it, it's a massive book, and the only really interesting stuff happens once Harry gets to the Department of Mysteries. There's a lot of dead weight in between; OotP could really have been the same length as GoF or PoA and not suffered much.

A lot of people actually believe that Harry won't survive the series, and I think that theory has some weight. He's beginning to separate himself mentally from other people, and doing the lone tortured hero thing. It would make sense if he died in the final battle, and I for one wouldn't be too surprised.

And the Half-Blood Prince is widely thought to be Dean Thomas. If you read his backstory on JK Rowling's website, there's a lot of material there that should have made it into CoS, but she couldn't fit it in. Also, CoS reportedly has strong ties with Half-Blood Prince, and I'm guessing that would mainly be to do with Tom Riddle and the Chamber scenes.

I realise that many people think Harry Potter to be "evil" and "anti-Christian" because of all the magic that goes on, which is directly related to black arts and witchery, but I don't think that's a reason to stop kids reading the books. Honestly, it's a great thing when something comes along and entices children to read instead of bashing away at video games (not that I mind video games... love 'em actually). The same thing happened with ET when it was released because of all the parallels it had with Jesus and the resurrection. There are countless films and books and the like you can point to for religious themes; Star Wars Episode I, for instance. Pokemon got the evil treatment too, just because the star on Kadabra's chest looks sort of like the Star of David. People... it's a STAR. Come on.

I hate it when people compare Harry Potter and LotR. It's like comparing cars with planes. Yes, both are transport, but no, they're not the same.

o.0

Why, oh why would they make a 6th one. I suppose the first 3 weren't enough.. I can just imagine how old that kid would be when they finished the movies.... The kid that plays Harry I mean.

:lol: Yeah they were making fun of how the kid was like 3 years older than Harry really should be on VH1's Best Week Ever... it was hilarious

I am a Harry Potter fan though... the books are great... but since one hasn't been out in a while I've been reading MTG books and now Im reading a Warcraft book... and I eventually want to start reading A Series of Unfortunate Events again... but the books are expensive (must... have... all... hard cover...)... gah anyway..

Im all up for the choose your religion... I hate it how my dad's side of the family (including my dad) are so religious at times... I mean I've been forced into religion school (sort of like an after school relgious program... I dont go to catholic school) and I absolutely hate it... I guess I just have to go along with it for now until I finally move out... gah...

Gotta love how people cram unproven crap down your throuts wether you like it or not... Kinda like school food... Salsebery (sp?) steak always looked like fish or some weird thing...

*Reads post* Man, I a freak... Religion and food... Gotta love it... LOVE IT!!!! NOW!!!!

*cough* Harry Potter is cool, but I wish chicks would stop drolling over Professor Snape.... How the **** is he cute or even remotely attractive? People keep eye raping him. I swere, it's too damn odd...

When I first read about the Dementors I immediatly thought Nazgul as well. But I can deal with that. The whole idea of a faceless figure in black robes has been used many different times. (Grim Reaper) (Ghost of Christmas Future) It is a pretty universal symbol for evil or death. I think the HP movie people did a good enough job of making their characters different though. As for "Dark Lord"...again, its been used time and time again. There are only so many title you can use for an evil overlord.

I'm dreading the release of the 4th movie. They cut so much important stuff out of the third movie. (How the heck did Lupin know all about the map? asked the non-book reader)
So much stuff happens that I just can not see it all coming together in a 2 hour movie, 3 hours might work though. But I don't know if anything other than LOTR can keep me in my seat that long.

And all this worrying over the fourth movie....I can't imagine the 5th....

Or the 6th or the 7th.. Vega is right, the next few movies will be hard to do for them. Also... they might need new actors after the 4th... Daniel, Rupert, and Emma are getting older faster than they can do the movies in the right times. At this rate it might end up with movie 7 where Harry is 17 but Daniel is like 20..

I agree.
They cut a lot from the third, and changed even more. A lot of DUmbledore's lines went to Lupin, for example. And the Dementors weren't quite as large as I imagined them (They're described in Book Five as twelve feet tall, for chrissakes).
And the Quidditch Game, they DOUBLED the distance Harry fell: from 50ft, whihc was already bad enough, to 100 FEET! And The Firebolt was a CHRISTMAS PRESENT!!! it did not come at the end of the film with a frikkin' hippogriff feather attached to it. And what the heck did they do with Pig? (little midget owl, delivers a letter at the end, and Ron keeps it)

And why, oh why are they not showing Peeves at all? He's a PIVOTAL character in almost half of Book Five! (harrassing Professor Umbridge...so important to the plot). AN dhe's important in Book THree, as it was PEEVES who announced the name of Sirius Black, when the Fat Lady's canvas was snatched. And If I recall correctly, Sir Cadogan wasn't even in this!

Sirius though, was right on, IMHO. Gary Oldman was excellent. Too bad they kill him off in Book Five. Oops, spoiler! If you haven't read Book Five yet (which is doubtful, If you're reading this), forget that last sentence...

That peeved me off to no end, when Rowling killed off my favorite character. Oh well, there's probably gonna be some sort of miraculous "Return of the Godfather/Dog-man" moment in Book Six or Seven...maybe, maybe not. But it's likely.

I reckon it'd be a bad move to get new actors, regardless of how old they're getting. They've been established in the fans eyes as the characters, so you get a bunch of new actors and there'll be a mass outcry of "OMG that is so not Harry!" They'd be better off keeping the actors. It's not like older people have never played teenagers before.

Well, Sky, you can't blame them for cutting out on some of the stuff. Sure, the roles you mention may be rather crucial to the plot, but you try taking a book that's almost 400 pages (if not more) and bunch it up in a 2 1/2 hour movie. It's not easy. If they lengthen the movie too much, they lose viewers. Now if this were in India, most films go to 3 1/2 hours, and then that'd be no problem....