Title: Bad news
Scifidragon - July 9, 2005 08:00 PM (GMT)
The damned hurricane down here in Florida caused my power to cut out a few times and messed with 2 of my computers, one of which had all my ZE files and the other is the one I used to play World of Warcraft. MyZE computer doesn't even get to the Windows logging-in page and if I can't get it fixed, then all the Zoids files on that computer are lost - and I will NOT re-do all the screenshots and info I have collected. Yes, that means I will quit ZE if I can't recover the files on that computer. I'll get a guy to come look at it next week, when the hurricane has gone away.
Pray for that computer to be fixed. :(
Koneko - July 9, 2005 09:29 PM (GMT)
Good grief! I hope it can be fixed! It would be a huge bummer to loose all the infomation! *Prays the dude can fix it*
F/A-18 Super Hornet - July 9, 2005 09:34 PM (GMT)
Scottfab - July 9, 2005 11:03 PM (GMT)
Hi, here's something you should know.
Just because your computer is dead does not mean your hard drive has been erased. The data can be recovered.
That is all.
ZeRoRaVeN - July 9, 2005 11:35 PM (GMT)
Scott is right, dead and data are two things. Back then when my computer died the data really was lost because I encrypted it (triple-DES!!) and then the encryption key I backed up didn't work. So as long as you didn't encrypt them *prays* you're fine. Just connect the drive up to another computer along with its main hardrive and it'll come up as a secondary drive and [should] be viewable.
Geez don't you back up your data? I used to back it up to a external drive...but stopped when after my computer died AGAIN and lost quite a bit of files...but manged to recover some...I ended my policy of encrypting files...
If you did encrypt your files using EFS I know a windows work around that allowed me to access my files, it's easy, just that the results vary and that it involves going though like each file, but doable.
Scifidragon - July 11, 2005 12:42 AM (GMT)
*Sigh* Everything was lost. Just found out a few minutes ago. The guy did everything he could to fix it, but the crash was so bad that he had to wipe everything to be able to fix the computer. I think it was the operating system or something that went bad, plus it was a relatively old computer (got it a few years ago). I might redo my site on my new laptop, but I won't be able to get the site up for a few more months.
*cries* All the screenshots I lost. :( All the site data, coding, my ftp program, my Fullmetal Alchemist, Zoids, Inuyasha, and other anime episodes, my favorites list, my saved fanart, the Zoids icons, the site pictures and banners, my Hiltz pictures :( , all the episode clips, the Zoids Genesis torrent files, everything, gone.
*goes to pout in a corner*
Matrixdragon - July 11, 2005 12:42 AM (GMT)
NOOOOOOO!!!!!!! *sobs* PLEASE tell me you still have the oekaki board up. PLEASE!!!
Scottfab - July 11, 2005 01:42 AM (GMT)
It's alright. You tried, circumstances prevented you, try something else instead.
Though you might have to change your sig.
ZeRoRaVeN - July 11, 2005 02:43 AM (GMT)
@Matrixdragon the board is a completely seperate thing, it runs on the web server and is unaffected by things like this.
There is NO reasonable explaination in why your data was unrecoverable. As I said before even if the OS is bad it can be recovered. *thinks lowly of the computer guy*
But that's the past now. I don't know what to say...but that we shall have to learn from our experiences. I did, now its time to start from scratch again.
Wait you have your zoids episodes on your computer? Aren't they on DVD?
Well it's time to build from scratch...the zoids genesis files are no problem, most of the members here have the complete set, I do and we can give them to you. You are going to need help if you want to redo most of your stuff so start acceptin' applications. Also didn't you leave most of your pictures etc on your web server?
*pats* its ok...its time to start all over again...*sob* though it is sad...
And well yes, the opening date on your sig..well its going to be way later...best of luck. I sympathesize I truly do...but I must stress the importance of backup.
Zelos - July 11, 2005 06:14 AM (GMT)
If that guy said your drive was irrecoverable because the OS was corrupt, give me his address and the plane ticket money and I'll personally go to his house and beat him up for you.
My guess is that the lightning corrupted the MBR (Master Boot Record) or a similarly important part of the OS, any truly professional computer expert should at least be able to diagnose when your data is lost or not, and at the very least point you to someone who is skilled in fixing whatever needs to be fixed.
See, hard drives are interesting little things. When it all comes down to it, all data on a computer is really VERY fine magnetic dust which coats a circular disk called a platter. Data is stored on a hard drive by using a VERY high powered magnet to flip individual dust particles. If the dust sits one way, it equals a binary 0, and if it sits the other way, it equals a binary 1. When whatever happened to your computer happened, a dust particle or two were probably flipped over when they weren't supposed to. Sometimes you can get away with that and not even know something happened, but other times, your whole computer can go down.
In the VERY worst of cases, special data recovery centers can actually open up a hard drive, remove the platters, and hook the platters up to special tools they have to either attempt to repair very bad damage or save important data from it. That can be very expensive though, but you probably wouldn't have needed to do that. As others have said, you probably should have hooked the hard drive up to another computer as a slave drive and it would have worked.
I'm sorry to hear about your loss. I to have been working on taking screenshots the last few days, but, not exactly of Zoids... Does anyone here know that I have a Pokemon addiction :D Currently I have 3837 screens from only one of the movies alone... If I were to lose all those, I don't know what I'd do...
*Hurriedly backs them all up to second hard drive, hooray for second hard drives!*
I don't know how you take your screen shots, but since I've upgraded to XP SP2, I use Windows Movie Maker 2.1. Just import the video file (You'd need to rip it from a DVD if that's how you have it), find the clip with the image(s) you want, scroll through it frame by frame until you have exactly what you want, and use the "Take Picture From Preview" feature.
Drk-X - July 11, 2005 06:29 AM (GMT)
Hmm, that really sucks. I recently deleted all my LQ episodes of the two Classic seasons and Century Zero, leaving only a few behind so I can't really help there, plus they're LQ's of course, making them unsuited for screencap making. However, I have a ton of Genesis and Fuzors screencaps handy if you need them. (errrrrrr.....I kinda have a lot for Kotona in Genesis and Fan for Fuzors.....don't blame me for being a guy :P Plus Fan is a bit underrated if you ask me. ^_^)
Plus there's all that stuff about Genesis and Fuzors that I gathered on my free time because I'm info hungry and I ripped the opening and ending themes if you want those. There's a lot more I can do to help since it's summer. ^_^
I can also help with the sprites including the new ones from Zoids Saga Fuzors and the Murasame Liger sprite. I've beaten all three Saga games long ago and have every single zoid and weapon so I can even make customized sprites of Zoids bearing weapons. ^_^
DefaultPeanut - July 11, 2005 06:43 AM (GMT)
That sucks to what happened to your computer. Find the idiot who wiped your hard drive and smack him a few times. I have also had the wonderful :blink: experience of data loss. So I feel your pain.
DueroTycoon - July 11, 2005 11:37 AM (GMT)
Hey duo, what's up? (It's VZ in case you were wondering, don't know if you left before my name change)
Anyways, do me a favor and smack that guy upside the head so hard that his brains shoot out of his nose, eh? EVEN older computers that date back 5 years or more can take a heavy lightning strike straight through the outlet (I know this from experience) without corrupting *any* data on the harddrive. There was nothing stopping him from hooking it up to another computer to get the data back, and it literally would have taken him less than 5 minutes to open up the case and put the thing in. I've had this happen to me before with lightning strikes that hit the power cables for my server room, and all I had to do was pull out the hotswap trays and put them in another system and they were good to go.
BTW, don't give up just because you lost all of the information, it will give you a chance to improve what you had before by going and redoing it. Have someone else take screenshots for you or the likes, I know I would.
Anyways, welcome back, sorry for your loss, and remember to hit the computer guy, eh?
DT
ZeRoRaVeN - July 11, 2005 03:14 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Zelos @ Jul 11 2005, 01:14 AM) |
| I don't know how you take your screen shots, but since I've upgraded to XP SP2, I use Windows Movie Maker 2.1. Just import the video file (You'd need to rip it from a DVD if that's how you have it), find the clip with the image(s) you want, scroll through it frame by frame until you have exactly what you want, and use the "Take Picture From Preview" feature. |
That's what you do? I tried it out today and it's diffcult, WMM asks you every time where to store the file, I don't know if you can automate it, but it also asks for a file name and the numbers for the file name don't change.
I do it differently, I use this program and set it to save all the files to a folder and then set it to have the numbers go up 1,2,3 etc and I put a prefeix in front of it so that everytime I take a screenshot it automaticaly does all this seemlessly. The only problem is that I have to take a screenshot of the player, kind of like printscr but I set it to reconize the movie's frame only. I'm looking for a even easier way.
Zelos - July 11, 2005 04:08 PM (GMT)
Yeah, but when you're trying to get individual frames it's easiest if you can just scroll through the movie frame by frame, something which I've only found in Movie Maker (Though I have no idea why Media Player doesn't have it, since the mini Media Player in Movie Maker does...). Besides, I've sort of gotten into a pattern now. Prepare by positioning the mouse cursor over the picture icon and hide anything else in your My Picture folder for ease of use. Press Alt+Right Arrow, press mouse button, enter number from 0-whatever increasing for each picture, press enter, rinse and repeat. When you're done move all the pictures from My Pictures to wherever you want them.
Of course, everything is named "1, 2, 3, 4 ,5" and so on, but I keep them in folders according to their source anyways, so it doesn't bother me.
Hint: It's good if you're really fast with the keypad ;)
ZeRoRaVeN - July 11, 2005 04:25 PM (GMT)

Now that's easy, right after I take my screenshot it doesn't notify me, I'm just concerned that the quality of taking a printscr equivalent might not be on par of using the button instead, and plus while it automaticaly reconizes the video, it searches for things that are grabable, like a box, the window, and I have first pause it because when I hit the button I specifiy to bring up the capture I see the entire compute paused along with the video but its still running even if I don't see or hear it. and then I have to move to the video, it's a pain in the arse...
DueroTycoon - July 11, 2005 07:23 PM (GMT)
YOU'RE BOTH CONFUSING!!! *Ends argument*
Just play it using BSPlayer or something like I do, and hit a little shortcut button. If you miss the scene, you can even back it up or forward it frame-by-frame. Why go through the trouble of spending 3 hours screenshotting an episode when you press the button and it does it automatically?
-_- n00bs I swear.
HaTcH - July 12, 2005 12:36 AM (GMT)
You could always use my TextGen program to create your gallery pages. Really, if the stuff is still on the server, you might as well just download the files via FTP back to your computer.
http://www.bearcreekfire.com/zoids3d/downloads/ <-- Link for TextGen Its nice and instant!
ZeRoRaVeN - July 12, 2005 12:49 AM (GMT)
Wrong thread! That post belongs in the advertising page!
I downloaded BS player pro *wink* and it kinda froze everytime I pressed the capture button which is P...maybe its just my system...
JammerLea - July 14, 2005 07:19 PM (GMT)
I'm late in replying, but I want to say I can understand the frustration. I've lost data three times, once to my old computer catching fire, second to a virus, and third being my parents old computer which they gave away before I could backup all my files. x_x;
But life goes on, ne?? I know you didn't lose quite everything! As both your old Angelfire sites are still functioning last I knew. But yeah... after losing data that many times, you kinda get used it, after the initial, "NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!" reaction!
Uhh... the off topic-ness... I've used Hatch's Textgen program a few times. XD
That is all.
Blade - July 18, 2005 03:23 AM (GMT)
Well it'd suck if you couldn't get ZE back up, it's a great site. But then again I have been steadily losing interest in Zoids. I'd hate to see all your work go down the drain, Duo. I haven't been on much either on ZE, comes to show I'm losing interest....
If you get back up just remember that I'm ready to help if needed.
Paradox - July 22, 2005 10:32 PM (GMT)
Well, that rather sucks. I'm Sure everyone here will lend you a hand Duo.
Drk-X - July 25, 2005 05:54 PM (GMT)
Good news. Turns out I know where you can find a large amount of your screencaps saved. Remember when you allowed Zoid Dome to use the screencaps off the site? Well, I recently came back into contact with primehunter and it seems he still has most of them so if you want, you can talk with him....after all, they are originally yours. ^_^
Blade - July 25, 2005 09:44 PM (GMT)
ZeRoRaVeN - November 8, 2005 01:03 AM (GMT)
I apologize for the REALLY old necro posting but I just realized something; since you used a paid host (and even many free hosts) keep tape backups of data stored...
As your host said
Listed right on the front page. It might be gone now though :( ...but no hurt in trying...
DueroTycoon - November 8, 2005 04:18 AM (GMT)
From what I've heard about HostTec, they probably don't keep any backups at all. :) A little hosting industry info, heh. (HostTec is generally considered as one of the smaller less-truthful companies in the industry)
ZeRoRaVeN - November 8, 2005 11:17 PM (GMT)
Duo should get her money back..what a rip-off...uh oh..what if my host is like that...ha out of all the topics you reply to its the hosting one eh?
Also what's with unidc.net? Looks like the domain's expired....*resists urge to buy it* How much should I blackmail him for? oops did I say that outloud? It was supposed to stay in my head. :P
DueroTycoon - November 9, 2005 03:56 AM (GMT)
Oh yes, I let the domain expire. I now own another domain instead. Blackmail me if you want, you will have ended up losing the $7 or whatever it is for you to regster it, vs $2 for me.
EDIT: Zero, not only if your hosting company rather expensive, it is also the same case for about 50% of its customers.
mc__ - November 14, 2005 01:36 PM (GMT)
@last page:
did the harddrive fail? or did the OS get corupt?
coz if it was oply the os then chances are you could've used something like winternals disck commander ($299) or partition table doctor ($40, or i could send you a full copy) and chances are you coulda got it back. Depends if it were a virus or faulty fdisking, or if the harddrive actauly died (cannot be detected by the BIOS).
Also if he just wiped it (destroyed partition) but didn't format it then you could still get your data back. I'm pretty sure that a format null-codes the data section though (well ibetter do coz it sure takes a long time).
@this page:
I host myself at site5.com
They're really good support-wise, but their servers aren't the fastest (well they are pretty good actually, pretty darn good, but each one just has sooo many accounts on it it really affects my page gen times).
They're not slow, just not fast either.
To get really good hosting you should get hooked up with a dedicated server. Then no one can screw you over...
http://www.dedicatednow.com/ are one of the better dedicated server providers.
You can take it from me i've had plenty of experience with these things. Only problem is is that to get dedicated hosting you'd need to either pay it all yourself, or have those monthly donation paypal boxes, and you need a really active, large community for those things to work.
DueroTycoon - November 14, 2005 09:49 PM (GMT)
Actually, if you want a good dedicated server provider, you really should look at EV1 or LayeredTech.
You can easily be screwed over with dedicated servers as well. Don't know if you know what Virtuozzo is, but you can quite easily fake a dedicted server.
:) I am the hosting expert. I've run my own company since I was twelve and dealt with over 8,000 customers at a single time before.
ZeRoRaVeN - November 14, 2005 10:01 PM (GMT)
*cough* *cough*
I won't say anything, but I hope you recall the incident.
I think Virtuozzo is that paritioning thing in which its like a dedicated server with its own resources and such, but its actually shared, costs alot more, but not as much as the real dedicated hosting..but you can't fake the real thing...
DueroTycoon - November 14, 2005 10:26 PM (GMT)
Bleh. The one time ZE forums all was lost really really permanantly was when I was going through databases one morning deleting them, and pressed the wrong button.
Virtuozzo does "partition" the system to make it look like there are multiple servers. They're called virtual private servers. Each is given its own resources, and costs about half of what a dedicated server is. You can fake the real thing quite easily, and many companies do it.
mc__ - November 14, 2005 11:04 PM (GMT)
The reason why i mentioned dedicated servers is because then you can be comfortable knowing that no one can waste your resources.
You could do that with virtuozzo too, but seeing as how dual P4 servers with 1 gig of RAM are only making mediocre php gen times on other's servers that ive talked to in the past, i figured that virtuozzo wouldn't help much unless they were hosted on some kind of super server.
I looked at EV1.net, and wehn i went to hosting packages all i didnt see any dedicated servers, just very expensive shared hosting.
| QUOTE ("ev1.net") |
3 GB Storage $30 per Month $29 Setup Fee |
| QUOTE ("site5.com") |
| $9.75 a month (paid in yearly blocks) 6 GB space and 75 GB bandwidth. Some other advanced features (upto 5 full cpanel accounts can be made under this account) |
But like i said site5 aren't slow, but they're servers don't seem to be way-fast either. Good support mind you.
As for layeredTech, they do seem good.
Their prices, after comparing, seem to be pretty much the same as dedicated now.
They don't seem to give that much bandwidth, but maybe you can order extra bandwidth or an unmetred 100mbit connection or something in an extras /addons area, like you can with dedicated now.
They don't have as much bandwidth, but you can certantly get some faster CPU power fora fair bit less cash in the higher "layers" (i like layeredTEch alot now)... although their very highest layer are not nearly as good value as dedicated now (almost identicale system, $200 versus $299 a month), it just goes to show that you really do need to shop around. Any other good hosts that you'd recommend?
I found a few other promising ones via google, but i dont think that i'll list them because i have no clue what their support or customer relations are like. And im sure that we've all heard some pretty bad stories about these things in the past.
So, is zoids evolution ever going to get its own hosting?
Oh yeah, while we're on the topic, does MMM ever become unreachable for yous on a regular basis. Everyday there are a few times where i cannot even ping their server, for stretches of upto an hour at a time. And just to check it wasn't IP banning i made a php script on my server to try to establish a connection and still nothing. They have some pretty serious issues huh?
DueroTycoon - November 14, 2005 11:14 PM (GMT)
Oh. I was talking that most hosts who offer "Dedicated" servers really only sell Virtuozzo. You don't need to tell me the advantages.
http://ev1servers.net/ <-- Try there.
Generally though, if you want hosting, and know me, I'd probably be your best bet. Not to brag, but as Steel may tell you, I don't have a problem with giving out free hosting if issues arise. (Which, sadly, they have recently)
Anyways. Read the fate of ZE thread. Will be getting hosting if anybody really wants to bring back ZE.
ZeRoRaVeN - November 15, 2005 12:39 AM (GMT)
ZE does have their own webhosting...though I wonder why Duo still pays for it since it's rarely been used except for the oekaaki thing....
The dedicated servers are quite cheap, but the shared hosting are EXPENSIVE...I get many times what is listed for a much lower price....
Also ev1 shared hosting doesn't list the bandwith..
Are those your companies? unidc is gone soo....
I want a high-bandwith/space hosting...I'd prefer a dedicated server, or at least a virtual one...though more important to me at the moment is obtaining a gaming server.....hmm...
DueroTycoon - November 15, 2005 01:10 AM (GMT)
Zero, they're not my companies. I own/run Vonuts. If you want a VPS, I can get you one of those quite easily. Prices are from $35/mo or so.
ZeRoRaVeN - November 15, 2005 01:15 AM (GMT)
$35/month? That's not bad for VPS...even if its virtual..can I see your website?