Update 11/15/05
http://zit.vonuts.com/tiki-index.php

I've set up a wiki for ZIT. This is just for ZIT, not ZE. This is for information on what we're doing, who people have elected as leaders, decisions, and things like that. (Please go ahead and add whatever you feel is important to reviving ZE. Not Zoids information, but just the ZIT program.)

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Project ZIT, which stands for Zoids Invigoration Tactics, is not only a plan for reviving Zoids Evolution, but Zoids in general. With Zoids Evolution up, it is our belief and hope that a spark of interest will occur in Zoids. Not only in the new series', but in the old ones as well.

ZIT will involve teamwork from stage one. It is based entirely around a democracy, at first controlled by: ZeRoRaVeN, Capitila, Jammer Lea, and DueroTycoon (Myself). These first few people would control the election and first stage of bringing the site back. The elections would be for, example, some of the following things:
*** How to set up the Community
*** Leaders of the Community
*** General Decisions
*** Site Ideas/Decisions

Things like that would be controlled in a way similar to the US Government. Each member would have a certain amount of "votes". For example, the higher up members, would have something like three votes. The moderator-level members, would have two. The members themselves, would only have one. This is not a structure set in stone, but it evens out enough whereas every level has some control. Though, ultimately, the administrators have the control, that's not the idea behind this.

The new site, with Duowolf's approval, would be hosted under ZoidsEvolution.com. It would likely be hosted by me, since I do have the resources (Brand new, and much more expensive resources than last time, mind you), to host it for free. It's no great loss for me, and I would be honored to host such a great community. So far we've had 100% uptime during the time that they're actually supposed to be up. (We did move the servers once)

The community, since it is mostly dead here, would extremely likely be moved. This is a huge decision that would be left to everybody. vBulletin, on one hand, had tons of modifications and stability behind it. Invision Power Board, on the other hand, many people prefer, but their company hasn't been the greatest lately to user development. The advantage of InvisionFree is that everything is already here, but it may scare away new members, and also leaves no room for modification.

This entire idea is based on the fact that nobody would have sole power. We would set up the community and a temporary Wiki first. That way, everybody could contribute to the greater good. Money donations and any other donations would be graciously taken and used where they can be.

I don't think I'm missing much that we've discussed. We don't want to give any members any reason not to support and work together with ZIT. Ask questions, and the idea will be changed as much as possible to accomodate you. As said, this idea is supported by at least several people, we want to hear your opinion as well. A democracy can't be a bad thing, so let's start now.

-ZeRoRaVeN, Capitila, Jammer Lea, and DueroTycoon

(As a footnote, we spent fifteen minutes coming up with the flashy name)
(Footnote v2... we want constructive comments only please?)

wow, seems nice.

Im happy for you people. As long as no one gets all egotistical i don't see how you can go wrong with this approach. very well thought out.

Invision power boards has a db backup thing in its web admin yeah? Like i mean you'd transfer the db tables across wouldn't you? (i know that you can do that using phpbbfree or whatever its called).

i personally don't really care which one you use (vb or ipb), although i think vb is probably a bit better.

With this new hosting that you're supplying is it likely that zoids-related material (software and media) could be hosted their and be avaliable for downlaod? I know that that'd make the site a LOT more popular and purposefull.

All you've discussed is who is going to control everything. Yeah, I get it's a pseudo-democracy. So? Internet politics are pretty boring when they don't lead to massive flamewars. But whatever, I suppose it's some kind of twisted start.

Now what I want to know is how you plan on reviving the whole zoids community. The main reason that the fandom is "dieing" is because zoids isn't shown on American TV anymore. I don't see how that's going to change so I suppose you have another method in store. What is this method? What about this new site will grab MY attention? I've seen all of CC/GF, NCO, Fuzors, and what has aired of Genesis. I know a good deal of the battle story. I've read the UK comics. What's left for me? There are a ton more people in my boat then there were when the old ZE was still up.

So to break it down:

1. What's in it for the hard core fans that've done/seen pretty much everything?
2. What unique content will the site have?
3. What makes everyone so sure it will revive the whole community?

If I'm going to somehow get involved in a project like this I want to know how it's going to work before hand so I don't waste my time. It's a good idea, one with certainly noble backings but I don't see it as plausible. So please, prove me wrong. I'd love for it to work.

Well the success well depend entirely on the community.

I think that anyone who wants t contribte content (be it software, fanart, flash movies, whatever) then they should be able to in an easy an automated manner (think something like newgrounds or similar).

Maybe have one of those image boards too, they can be pretty fun sometimes...

MrGuy: You bring up three good points.

1 & 2) Members contribute, it's not a "one person controls all site". We can set up a big area for fanfiction, give things away for doing things, etc. Unique content is not the entirety of it, though if the community cares enough, there will be more than enough of it. Hard core fans, will remain hard core fans. If they like the series enough, they would stay for what it is and nothing more. But the community-oriented environment of people that share the same interests and donate things should be a good reason.

3) Zoids Evolution was an empire before, I never ever came across another time besides ZE and DZ that Zoids was so big. If every member gave one thing towards the site, it would give enough content to last a while and interest more people. We'd be one of the few remaining Zoids sites out there.

Oh gawd yes! Zoids needs its own *chan.

Okay, so what I gather is that it's basically all going to come down to the community? I suppose that's good in a sense. But that leads me to the next question... how are people going to get involved? I'd think it'd be nessacary to wow the average fan with a good site but it's going to come down to more then that. It's all in the marketting. Zoids Portal tried advertising at all the big message boards and it didn't really end up working...

Also I say yes to the fanfiction bit. I believe you were familiar with the Darkscribes and EF.org (I believe I saw a story of yours once on EF.org)? Something like that would be nice. Haven't been in a large scale fanfic flamewar since the big deal with 'Obsession' in '02 :P

People get involved by giving whatever they can. If they want to donate information on a character, their own time, money, a fanfiction, fanart, etc. That's the idea behind it.

Fanfiction yes. I've seen almost NO Zoids fanfiction. Eva fics are the best. :) (Let's change that?)

yeah i second (or third) that.

Fanfiction would be really cool. Oh and about character profiles and stuff, are you saying we should also set up a wiki or something for that? coz that'd be pretty good. (most people won't go to the bother of emailing a site admin just to get some changes done, nor make a forum post about it a lot of the time either unless they're allready active members).

The best way to advertise is to have an affiliation link on like every single zoids site (so that these same people keep on seeing it again and again and again) and to have a good reputation. Word of mouth type thing. That's the only reason why i even visited MMM in the first place.

There were links to it all over the place, but i never even bothered to click on it. Didn't seem like worth my effort, and it got a bit annoying... but hearing actual members talk about it (but not advertising it spam-style, just including it in general discussion), that got me interested.

So i guess that it just takes time.

Like you said, no where else has zoids fanfiction specifically, or a zoids image board, these types of things will draw people to the site. Then they'll talk about it and things should really take off.

Character profiles can just be put up in random places. The wiki is a good start, as we can then build the site off of what's in the wiki, but we can also take information and such from the forum.

As for advertisement, I was really thinking about holding a contest for the first month of ZIT control. "Who can refer the most useful non-spamming members" or something of the likes. We can give things away, like their own forum, or something like that, who knows. We want actual members speaking here, not advertisements.

yes i agree. very good idea.

And exactly HOW will you appeal to those with interest in the new stuff? (without copying) <.<

Like I said, people want what's fresh and new...

um how? write stuff thats how ;)

Without plagarizing?

Seriously, I think you should just leave the new content to those that know their stuff.

Drk, please leave your comments and criticism to be constructive. That's not exactly contstructive. It's also been mentioned above, especially during the fanfiction areas. New things are created by the members. Though we may cover new parts of Zoids, it won't be the main focus.

ZE already has a good name for itself, and for a long time was regarded as one of the best Zoids sites on the internet (if not the best). So a revival should have some kind of an impact on the remaining Zoid fans out there who are still active and remember it.
The main problem that we’ll have is getting people who aren’t already floating around the Zoids community. To be honest we probably wont get mass amounts of people who are new to the scene, no amount of advertising will change that, it’s the lack of new mainstream material.
That aside, we’ve got progress going, which is the best that could hope for. Now all we need is to get approval, it set up, and content. We might not have a lot on Genesis, but we don’t have to be experts on it.

So then what? You just have the same old content that everyone has already seen? What comes next? People will lose interest once again. People get bored of things they already have.

Seriously DT, I think you're really aware of the actual situation. Have you been in recent touch with the Zoids community other than here? The entire english speaking zoids community is cluttered around two sites, Pheno's and ZGO. Why is that? Because they're the only places that offer new content. Pheno's gets the new models while ZGO gets everything else from games, Genesis, Generations, and Scramble. What you are able to offer, people already have.

A large amount of the zoids community have already had their fill of Classic and Zero. So they get bored naturally... How do you keep the fans? Feed them new info....Fuzors, Genesis, Generations, games, manga and more.

A lot of people were discouraged from the new stuff because of lack of coverage. Hell, some people disliked Genesis without even giving it a chance. ZGO changed that. Go to ZGC, Pheno's, or other places and look at how many Genesis fans there have been now.

You know, at the same time I really miss the old Zoids Evolution. I miss the collective of stuff we've already seen, because it's nice to have something to reference, to find pictures at, information, icons, etc. That's what was awesome about Zoids Evolution.

I don't know, maybe I haven't looked hard enough, but a lot of the sites that had that stuff have gone under. I've never visited Pheno's to know what's there, maybe all that content is still up somewhere. But I know I can't find it at ZGO.

You could easily do a partnership of course, Zoids Evolution w/ a collective of old content and ZGO with the new.

All it needs to regain what ZE had is the screencaps, sprites, and some model coverage as well as Classic and Zero coverage.

Sprites, I already have a sprite library from Zoids Saga through Zoids Saga Fuzors, meaning the sprite library is even LARGER, screencaps we have, and the model coverage we can leave to Pheno's. Plus we're getting Classic and Zero coverage...

After that, then what?

Like I said, without the new content, it won't get anywhere.

It's all idealistic and all, but in reality, out of reach with the current plan. Remember the ZB? Has it gotten anywhere? It was idealistic and all, the ultimate zoid model resource...

...yet nothing...

On the other hand, the two sites with the new content are living strong as can be.

And before anyone brings up the argument of "what about after Genesis ends?" there's also Generations, which will last a long time, knowing how manga series work, plus the games, which keep on coming.

Then what what? Why are you being so contradicting to a little idea like this? I truthfully thought your main focus was going to be on Genesis, I really never pictured you moving backwards with ZGO. ZE had Fuzors stuff too you know.

This isn't a competition though.

The main point is to have a more user interactive site. I don't know... maybe it'll work, maybe it'll flop.

I obsess over the battle story and I'd say I know little. Only a tiny percentage of it is on the web in English, and a lot of the Japanese stuff isn't there either (NJR fanbooks, for starters). Just the back of the box stuff is a fraction of a greater whole.

Why do you think I'm flailing to translate it, even though I suck?

(and on a side note, I really wanna know where Hermann went in the Wolff versus Ray Gregg fight. Him versus Wolff would have been more appropriate...)

Having battle story stuff would be sweet! I really want to know more about the battle story, from what you've told me about it, Tilly. XD

..... WOW. Just, WOW.

I can do some OJR character profiles and general info that could be mirrored...well, once I'm done going through some stuff. NJR will take more work and me getting the fanbooks.

Actual translations I'd rather stayed on my site, since it needs it own unique content too...and I kinda asked permission to translate from some stuff and having it spread around makes me a bit nervous, you know?

That's fine. Perhaps you could be another partner site, or perhaps we could just keep it real general as to what's going on for the story. Nothing word-for-word.

I think perhaps a good place to start for rebuilding the old ZE is figuring out what we liked from the old ZE and sort of create a checklist of what we want.

Okay. The OJR, in summary!


There were tribes. They fought. King Helic got them to get along. King Helic liked bird Zoids.

Weird Zoids attacked from the Dark Continent. He and Guylos smited them. Yay, peace on the Central Continent.

Helic got old and died, and told his sons to be nice. Zenebas said to shove it and tried to smite his brother Helic II.

Humans showed up. They made Zoids smitier.

Zenebas and Helic (I'm not typing II five million times) fought some more. Helic won. Zenebas ran to the Dark Continent.

Zenebas came back with smitier Zoids and finished Deathy. Zenebas smited. Helic came up with Mad Thunder and smited back.

Zenebas called on the Dark Continent and Emperor Guylos (likely not the same Guylos, he'd be hella old) again.

Guylos said stuff this, I'm killing Helic myself, and kidnapped Zenebas' daughter (Elena) to get Störmer (commander, bodyguard of Zenebas) and the rest of what's left of his forces to join him, and smited or kidnapped Zenebas, depending on what continuity you ask.

Nothing happened for a while. Then the ground started cracking, birds fleeing, and the islands started going out...er, crumbling. Oops, Dark Zoids do weird stuff to Central Continent.

Shuu (scientist dude) poked the Dark Continent. Störmer and the Dark Army smited. Shuu smited back with Gunbluster, which he liked (likes?) a bit TOO much. War again.

Saly F2 smited Dark Army Zoids. Störmer shows up in Gilvy. Gilvy smited...lots of things. I need to stop saying smited.

Orudios sporked (there!) Gilvy. More fighting, ending in King G closing in on the Guylos capital...castle...thingy, with only Descat to block its way...

A comet hit one of the moons...rocks fall, EVERYBODY DIES.



Is that good? Other than I didn't mention Big John...

And I say your approximation is incorrect. Besides, there's more then a few people besides you that are working on translations. They just don't post what they have for various reasons and instead keep them for their own knowledge... and my knowledge once I find them :lol:

Then there's the fact I'm not Japanese illiterate anymore either. Trudging through...

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For 100+ hours will do that to you. That's the only copy/pastable bit of the Japanese text I found right now, but I feel it's complicated enough to express my undieing pain.

I'm liking the ideas but am still worried over how it's going to actually come to fruitation. I'm not sure I trust everyone to their part. I'm sure some will but without a lot of people helping it probably isn't going to do so well. Ambition without proper means is usually the death of these types of projects.

You could always talk with Steve though, we have Zoids Bios here that need a place to put up x_x

I said I know little.

What DID happen to Hermann, then? My NJR knowledge is a muddle.

Blarg. I need to redo my Zoids layout.

Jebuz, way to sound like an ******* guy.

Seriously.

you wanna be an upyouelf elitist, fine. It wont get you any respect from this quater tho.

lol, keep to the subject guys.

yeah i recon. Whats with all the negativity?

"you will fail unless you actualey do something" ...well DUH

"you need fresh content" ...yes we agree, that's we'd put fresh content there. funny huh?

"if you don't think about this realisticly you'll fail. You can't just wish and hope for things" ...yes we know. no need to tell us. We plan on doing what we say otherwise why would we say it?


Basically if you have any form of dedication you'll get done what needs to be done. Simple. No need to tell us that a half-hearted effort won't get anywhere.

So no need to point out our short commings and say that the whole idea is stupid, why not offer to fill them yourself? It's not like anyone's putting any real money into the proposed design.

If no one visits for 6 months then you didn't achieve success. Still wasn't a failure, as many people WILL FIND WHAT WE'VE PROPOSED USEFULL. So allready we're gauranteed some form of success, even if we never find out about it ourselves.

Ijust want to point out that negative idle talk is just pointless, so please bear that in mind in future.

with all of these proposed ideas, are you going to go the way of some form of cms, or keep most things anonymous?

A wiki can be anonymous, an image board is anonymous, there is no log in need to submit fanfiction... but extra care would have to be taken that it all feels integrated pretty well. But that is mainly a style / theming issue anyway.

I guess the main thing to do is to put in point form what you want to achieve, and how you're going to do it.


I'll make a start, something to work from i suppose.


* attract new people to socialize with and roleplay with
-> by submitting our URL everywhere to get good search engine rankings
-> by spreading the propaganda amongst active role play communities
-> by running an inviting site and hoping for the best
-> by letting things run their natural course while promoting the site as much as possible. what more can you do?

* have lots of general zoids information available. Epps, plots, characters, zoids, parts, etc
-> have people that know all the series, manga, games etc to write a lot of stuff
-> by letting anonymous users submit new info and ammend existing info
-> by seeing if other sites cover things we don't have, then use their stuff. Not copy+paste, that's plagarism, but following normal rules (citing the source, date, etc). This means reconstruct the text using facts that they post, not their work directly (that way they cannot deny you from doing it, as that'd be infringing upon your civil rights and libities).

* fan media database
-> a way for individuals to publsih their zoids related fan media
-> this means fanfiction, swfs, fan art, software, whatever. Could have anual compos and stuff.
-> Provide resources to help these types of people (nicely cleaned GFX that they can use, wtih information on the copy rights associated with each one, etc).

* normal media database
-> other sites are likely to have this, but there's no hurt in having another set hosted somewhere else.
-> provide information on the media, its sources, etc. zoidsnfo type service. Many people search for this info, it'd be nice if there were one place where they could get it all.

any ideas?

oh yeah, if you also had any half decent 3d modelers, it'd be REALLY nice to have 3d models of all zoids created and up for downlaod. in a .obj file or something.

If we have lots of official stats and pictures from anime and photos pf the models then you could simply have all models put there, and encourage people to submit their half-finished work.

have some basic guidlens, and see if we can over the course of a few years eventually end up with an entire collection of all zoids in a series of 3d models (it's best to have each separate part as a separate object, so to try to animate it you don't have to first brake it up, which is a big time waster).

I could easily write a little openGL program that'd allow people to fly around with their zoids and stuff in a 3d world (you could have it as open source and develop it with the community).

But this is really only a good idea if you get enough of the right sorts of people joining up. Still, that could be pretty fun for awhile. Just something to think about.

The 3d models alone would REALLY help people when trying to make custom GFX... all the nice renders they could come up with...

that's the sort of thing i'd like to see in the site.

how about you?

Holy crap, this thread grew quickly, and the idea has more support than I had hoped. I really think that this idea will pull through if it keeps up like this. :)

I was thinking about setting up an information website/wiki on wednesday to track the progress of what we're doing. Let people know of how the elections are going, and things like that. Not really Zoids information, but ZIT information.

A 3D model is pretty hard to make one at a time, making hundreds will take forever. I tryed to make one myself and failed, though I suck. I still dont think its possible to make all of them even if we had the services of some skilled modelers. Look at that Zoids Half-Life mod thingy its been there for like over 6-months and they have like 6-10 models and some are pretty bad IMO.

As for the ZIT idea, I like it. But the voting system might scare off new members, I suggest 1 vote for anyone even if you are a mod or whatever.

Firstly I apologize for not staying up until the topic was posted, it got late, and after we decided on the Project name...

fuz, I want to say one thing to you, if you're so against the the project and all, why don't you come up with ideas for the NEW ZE instead of critizing us. You're saying that we should have new content and such, but Jammer's point is right, yes there was alot of old information we're trying to rebuild BEFORE but likewise it went under and IS GONE. For example Zoids Unofficial still has alot of content, but it's DEAD..it's up still for for who knows how long? I talked to the webmaster and he's hasn't updated since Fuzors started, and his interest went to RK and is no longer interested in Zoids. This stuff might not be up forever, if we had permission we could use his information, with due credit.

The point I'm making is that once, yes there was all this information we're trying to build, but it's pretty much gone now.

How many times have I heard this from you? "Seriously, I think you should just leave the new content to those that know their stuff." What is it the 4th time fuz? What you're qualified to say who is and isn't? I guess we should all just vote on having fuz take over ZE like the Poll topic Blade started! Frankly NO progress is being made on ZE so far, the wiki idea is a temporaly solution at least UNTIL someone comes along and takes over. In the meantime do you have a better idea? Besides the one where you take over and suddenly you get to keep ZE to yourself.

@mc__ 3d models are great, but that shouldn't be the focus, it'll be a fan created stuff and isn't the purpose of wiki and the rebuilding effort we're doing. I mean sure next to the information and it being here and there is nice, but we want the information and the images and such first, then after we've gotten the important focus laid down, we can move onto side project such as this. But personally I think it's too much work at the moment when we've barely even decided what to do.

The thing is ZE is already well known, that's not the problem, the thing is most people don't bother to visit it anymore because they've given up waiting and so don't visit it anymore.

Shiny new faction with rising power...absorbing fallen empire...

DrkX is turning into Guylos! Quick, hide all the princesses! Get the Kingligers and Orudioses!

Well, gee, I disappear for a few days and this happens.. goodness, I know I haven't been on.

Well, this is a lot to take in at once.. do I have anything to say, once I understand it entirely, maybe. As secondary admin here, I wouldn't mind getting in on this, at least figuring out everything that is going on, I think you are talking about the site and not the board as much, but anything that deals with the board, I must understand. I don't have time to read a lot of this now, I'll try later, also if anyone of those 4 that seem to be the bigwigs is on, I might contact you on AIM about it, I haven't really been paying attention to stuff on ZE over the weekend, looks like that wasn't a smart move.

((My replies to other people are first, so for those that only want the constructive/new stuff, it's at the end :lol: ))

And I say your approximation is incorrect. You know plenty about the battle story. Maybe not as much as you'd wish, but when compared to most people you know a ton (it's a compliment!). I say you just say that because you like to quote parts of my posts and say something to the contrary :P

OMG. Why don't you go make an internet thread about it! A whole topic full of asterisks would be mighty fine. Since you're obviously adept at the art of flaming. I'm sure you're well aware that this is the internet, serious buisness. But since you obviously enjoy jumping to conclusions about e-people, I'll give you the run down of what I meant.

-There are other people translating and thus more places to get info. This was brought up because Tilly quoted my sentence, inferring that even though she obsesses over them she doesn't even understands them (which leads to the notion that *I* have no way to know a good deal because I barely look at them).
-My post also had a hidden meaning, which you obviously didn't catch. These said people don't post what they do know because of other people in the community. Tilly, I believe you're familiar with Wvlf's case? I do really wonder if that's him being overly paranoid or if what he says is correct...
-I accept all I things I don't understand, so I learn.

Much <3 Princess. It's nice to know we're chummy again.

That we have. Need to talk with Steve about using the bios though, as they were his plan to begin with. But I'd assume that he'd let the new site use them as it's *basically* ZE reincarnated. It'll be a nice asset to the site once it's finished.

As for the 3D model, Stompy makes excellent ones. I haven't talked to him in a few weeks but we were both admins over at ZGC so I could ask him whether or not he'd like his art up at the new site. The only problem I see is that MMM also has his work up, and he's actively involved with graphic stuff there.

As for negativity, I tried to balance it out with positive things but it's imperative that everyone doesn't go in star eyed. It's going to be a lot of hard work and while being really excited is good, it isn't good to be completely blinded by optimism.

My ideas:

-The fanfiction dealie, promoting well written fics to appear. Possibly something like the Taco Bell awards were to Eva. Real prizes are something that everyone would want. Konig from ZGC was providing prizes for a smaller message board contest so I could potentially talk to him as well about prizes.

-Image board. Awesome fun and they have the potential to be VERY popular. As I've stated about a bajillion times, the most popular message board in the world is part image board. Always a good idea, but we'd need adequate web space (which I assume Duero can provide?). I can look into some thigns for that.

-To further break up the politics of it all, I'd recommend a different group of people to handle different aspects of the site while the people that were mentioned in the first post would be in charge of bringing everything together. I'd assume most people would work hard when they know they have some power in the site. It also allows more people to focus on more tasks at once which leads to many updates and to overall happy readers.

There's what I'm going to do to help the project, what abut YOOOUUUUU!? *points around whimsically at all*

http://zit.vonuts.com/tiki-index.php

I've set up a wiki for ZIT. This is just for ZIT, not ZE. This is for information on what we're doing, who people have elected as leaders, decisions, and things like that. (Please go ahead and add whatever you feel is important to reviving ZE. Not Zoids information, but just the ZIT program.)

I'm going to update the first post with this as well.

No one heard me.... eh, I'm the second admin of ZE and I have no idea what's going on.. I read the thing.. but this seems like a giant movement to change everything, and that doesn't sound right. All I care about is what this is doing to the forums, so I'd like to have a part in it along with the other people that are doing this (Jammer, Zero, Caps, DT apparently are the ones).

So... can someone clarify this more than just saying what ZIT stands for? And what this does to ZE, the board?

ARGH! *Kills damn DVD drive* This stupid drive has been causing my computer to completely lock up ever since I got it! I was in the middle of writing a post here when it did it again! Just earlier today I was starting up a game (Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind. Best game ever. I mean it this time) when it locked up, corrupting part of my hard drive! Fortunately it was only four not important files that were affected, but still! If it locks up one more time I am pulling that drive out and RMAing it! And yes, I know it's the drive because not only did it start happening only after I put it in, but when it locks up you can hear the drive begin to spin up (for no reason) and make this whirring noise every time.

In a nutshell, what I was trying to say before is that I don't know what's going on with this site because I'm to lazy to read this whole thread, but I can submit game info from any of the Gameboy Advance games and Versus 2. I can also cut out sprites from any of the GBA games to be put up on the site, for people to save or to be used in banners or what not. I also have all the episodes from CC, GF, and NC0 so I can make video clips and/or write summaries on the episodes, characters, Zoids, and what not.

I then said that I know I'm probably not as good as other people at any of that stuff, but that many people working together are better then just a few working alone.

I also mentioned that I would help set up the forums and what not if we decide to move them, but that that's ultimately Jammer's choice (unless she gives up her power)

Then, the last thing I had typed was that I pass by Duero at least twice every day in school completely by coincidence and so he has the ability to beat me up in real life in case I mess something up online, but that it would be very awkward for a Freshman (Duero) to beat up a Junior (me)

And before my computer locks up again, I shall post this without even reading through it first!

EDIT: Fixed some typos. Oh, I also forgot that before, I had made fun of the acronym “ZIT” because it really does not seem like something a site about Zoids would be called.