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Title: Harry Potter Goblet of Fire Movie
Description: It sucked


ZeRoRaVeN - November 19, 2005 11:03 PM (GMT)
I hate the movie. I also hate Harry Potter. I like Eragon. Eragon makes a nice alternative.

What I really mean was that the movie was horrible, they cut out SO MUCH. They didn't mention Harry getting and giving his prize, they screwed up so many parts, Sirus wasn't there when Dumbledore talked to him, ALOT of the beginning was gone, alot of corner were cut too.

When the other campions fought they didn't show them (they didn't in the book either but they kinda went straight to harry's part) they also didn't show ANY of the actual quidditch battles, and I can name alot more.

Why did I watch it? Because I was forced to, my family wanted to see it and I didn't. I wanted to see Jarhead at least, but noooo it was rated R I needed a adult...the alternative would've Saw II but I not only saw it, but it was also rated R. The other movies sucked, and then I couldn't go home. I was torured.

As for Harry Potter, I hate the series now, I used to like it, but the books have recently become repitive and the ending is OBVIOUS. It doesn't take much to put two and two together.

JK Rowling said on TV she had Harry's, Ron's, and Hermoine's careers after the book planned out.

The propecy says either Harry or Voldomort will die.

So unless one of these two conditions are changed, Voldomort will die and Harry wins. great.

I answered no and poor for any movie related questions for the survey which was the only reason I took it.

Unabhängiger Wolf - November 20, 2005 03:10 AM (GMT)
*thinks ZeRoRaVeN is being too harsh*

Dude, the book is HUGE. There's no way they can fit all that content in a (almost) 3 hour movie. Although there were some parts that could have been done better, it's still a good movie, probably the best one so far.

Looking forward to the next movie.

Zelos - November 20, 2005 03:14 AM (GMT)
Argh! When will people realize that BOOK =/= MOVIE!

WHY does it seem like everyone wants the movie to be EXACTLY the same as the BOOK!

I can understanding complaining about cut scenes that are vital to the overall plot, but since when has a Quiditch tournament, even if it is the World Cup, been vital to understanding the entire plot of the book? Sure, it would probably be cool to see a Quiditch match on such a large scale, but they had to cut the movie down to a length that wouldn't bore people. Since this book was so long, they had to cut out parts that weren't so important. Continuing with the World Quiditch Cup example, all that was really important about that scene was to introduce Victor Krum as being a famous athlete, and show that the Death Eaters are returning. The movie left in both parts, and was forced to cut out the actual match itself due to length issues.

I can't give much more examples, seeing as I haven't read the book in a while and have forgotten a large amount of it, however the fact remains that you honestly can't expect a 700+ page book to be condensed to a movie that's not over four hours long.

People like you, who expect a book based movie to be exactly like the book, need to realize that books and movies are completely different forms of entertainment. Books are long and drawn out; while movies are short and condensed to provide as much action on as consistent a basis as possible.

Now, I do have to admit that the beginning was very fast paced and could have used with a bit more filler to have actually let me breath, and the World Quiditch Cup was disappointing (even though I knew the actual match wasn't shown already) because of how much buildup there was. However, after that was all over, it was very good. Scenes such as the introduction of the two other schools, the battle with the dragon, and Harry's duel with Voldemort were truly awesome.

If you go into a movie expecting it to be the same as the book (especially if you happen to hate the book) you will ALWAYS be disappointed. Only if you expect parts to be cut out will you appreciate the movie. When Order of the Phoenix comes out, try to go into it with an open mind, and you'll probably find it much more enjoyable then otherwise.

On an unrelated note: OMG! If I heard right that girl, Amy, on IGPX stole my last name!

ZeRoRaVeN - November 20, 2005 03:15 AM (GMT)
Yes I know that, alot of scenes had to be cut, however there were some critical scenes cut that would force the director of the next movie to make improvisions. If it's the same director then they're an idiot.

For example, Harry's winnings, never presented to him, how will Fred and George start a Joke shop then? Barry Crouch, he wasn't kissed by the demontor, then what he survivied or something and is awaiting trial?

EDIT [notices Zelos posted]: No I didn't expect the movie to be exactly the same, I watched all three movies before them, and I went in expecting stuff to be cut, however they cut so much the next movie's not going to make sense. Are you telling me those two parts aren't important? You know it would ONLY be a few minutes more showing time if they showed Harry recieving and giving his winnings, and as for the kiss they could have him kiss it really fast and jump the scene to elsewhere.

Earthbounder 5.0 - November 20, 2005 06:04 AM (GMT)
I was also disappointed by the fourth movie. Things seemed to be skipped and everything went by too quickly.

Narnia for the win. It looks awesome.

Tilly - November 20, 2005 08:23 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (ZeRoRaVeN @ Nov 19 2005, 11:03 PM)
I hate the movie. I also hate Harry Potter.

And this review's not biased, honest :p.

Book to movie usually is awkward because it doesn't work well. Sometimes it does (Watership Down, what I've seen of LOTR, The Andromeda Strain). I've seen half of one of the Harry Potter movies and I thought it was fun, though I'm not a huge fan and thus don't know the book well to compare.

But fun's what counts.

Drk-X - November 20, 2005 08:36 AM (GMT)
Gimme a better looking Cho Chang and Fleur and I'll say I like the movie.

Also, give me a better reason for making the movie PG-13 besides the fact that Emma Watson bends over in one scene and I'll say the people who give the ratings/restrictions aren't morons. It's not THAT violent...

Make Harry and Ron not look like they wanna be emo and I'll stop using eyewash when I see em.

Make Krum look like he didn't fail a blood test and I'll ditto what I said for Harry and Ron.

Anyways, the point is, the overall quality pales in comparison to the other movies, which weren't THAT great. I'm not saying they're bad movies, but not great either. The quality of the 4th one was just bleh...

...And Daniel Radcliffe is not hot to anyone who is gonna say that...

ZeRoRaVeN - November 20, 2005 06:34 PM (GMT)
Harry has obviouslly never seen azn girls before if he fell over Cho.

My review was honest and unbiased, I took into consideration many factors when I made my choice. *cough*

Overall I kinda slept though parts.

Watch everyone flock to JK Rowlings' books after Harry Potter which she said she'll be writing just because she's JK Rowling..

Sir Maverick - November 22, 2005 01:59 AM (GMT)
*agrees that Raven is being harsh*

Don't get me wrong, all the cutting ticked me off pretty good too. However, some of it was required, though they did skip a few parts that should've been left in. And being that the whole damned Quidditch World Cup takes all of 10-20 minutes even in the book, if I remember correctly, they could've showed most of it, which would've been awesome. However, the movie had its moments. The battle with the dragon was simply amazing, and you can't help but laugh at the bath scene with Moaning Myrtle. And they did leave one of the single greatest scenes from the book: Malfoy the amazing bouncing ferret.

Overall, the movie could've been better, but it really wasn't that bad.

sammich - November 22, 2005 06:23 AM (GMT)
I think Raven is being too harsh.

I enjoyed the movie because I like seeing the characters from said book come to life on the big screen. As long as the plot is fairly similar and the film is entertaining... I'm happy.
It was a big book crammed into a short time span.

It did it's job for me. I was entertained. :D

K-62 - November 22, 2005 12:36 PM (GMT)
I agree with the crap part. Harry Potter is a Satanic piece of crap. I predict that in the end Harry Potter is the anti Christ

Atrophy Within - November 22, 2005 06:03 PM (GMT)
Harry Potter is the antichrist? Ok, anyone who honestly beleives that... shood be shot... Seriously. It is based on magic, and magic tricks, it has nothing to do with god or satan... I saw this artical of these groups protesting Harry Potter. They banded the books in local libraries and schools. Thats just idiocy with a thick black border around it....

What the heck is wrong with people these days.... You can have a book from Edgar Allen poe in a library depicting a man who buries an axe in his wife, after torturing and killing a cat.... But a book about some kids and magic is a sin and evil....

Its amusing how much a lack of imagination people have these days can cause such issues.... Its a damn book, and techinically, the bible was just a book too... So lets not get into that whole religious aspect of an arguement towards Harry Potter.... :lol:

I haven't seen this movie yet, I've seen the first 3, and I liked them. i wanna see 4, and the rest that come. I personally like it. Its a great story. My friends are all Star Wars nuts, me... Harry Potter all the way. lol

(people quit editting my posts.... I'm sick of it. just ban me if you think my post needs to be editted.)

ZeRoRaVeN - November 23, 2005 02:17 AM (GMT)
*points to the bottom of page* for the second time in a row, it's a Harry Potter related advertisement, must be a Google adsense or one of those related ads thigys...

Um I didn't like Harry Potter, but not for the anti Christ reason...I don't see why people are like that, the book is fiction, Jk Rowling says its fiction, it's labeld fiction, it goes under fiction in the libaray/bookshops, it's fiction or not real. This is like that time with the Da Vinci code...though that guy is a little less clear on his role on it...he seems to say part of it is fiction and some isn't?

There are indeed groups out there who burn the books, I don't like Harry Potter that much, but my is more of a matter of dislike, not because its got to do with magic...and you don't see my burning Harry Potter books *hides torches and C4 explosives*

K-62 - November 23, 2005 12:57 PM (GMT)
I dont say it's evil because of the reasons that those weird churchy people do; I have my own. As I was reading the first book to my little cusion sometime back I noticed that there were too many 11 in the story at the oddest places. As some people may or may not(usually not) know 11 is the number attached to the "anti-christ"(I use that term loosly cuz its the only main stream one). To list afew Harry was 11 when he got those letters, his wand was 11inches long, the train left at 11o'clock, the vault number(forget what it was exactly) added up to 11 etc. There were way too many, some hidden some out in the open.

Number arent the only thing I found, it turns out that most of the people in the book where real people in points of history. The one that stood out was Nicholas Flamel: The Immortal French Alchemist and maker of the Philosopher's Stone. I did some research and found that Flamel came into book of Abraham; Abraham I been told was a man in the bible that lived for over 900yrs. I'll stop explaining here but I have way more about every name in the books and where they came from. Some were even make from rearranging words.

As I did more and more research, I concluded that Harry Potter is away to eases people into the occult. Most of you may think Im a nut now but it's ok, I dont mine was long as my view gets expressed.

ZeRoRaVeN - November 23, 2005 01:10 PM (GMT)
Maybe Rowling has something with 11 to do with the plot of the book..*shrug* no matter...you're taking this way too seriouslly....yes I was also aware Nicholas Flamel existed in real life but it has SOME connection which is why she used them....

Harry Potter eases people into occult...sorry to tell you but I don't think its working...I don't see people going en masse into occult...

Really....its fiction....

Tilly - November 23, 2005 01:13 PM (GMT)
If people can't think for themselves enough that something like Harry Potter would turn them bad, Harry Potter is not the problem.

JammerLea - November 27, 2005 03:53 AM (GMT)
I finally saw the movie. It was funny... when it first started they forgot to dim the lights, and finally some kids got up to complain. They dimmed the lights and there was a resounding, "yay" from the audience. Not an overjoyous yay though. XD

Anyways, I'm not familiar with the books at all. I was neither wowed nor disappointed with the movie. I'm sure there was a lot of stuff missing, but... oh well, ignorance is bliss. XD;

What was WAS happy for was Harry was not overly ANGST-ridden in this movie. I hate that sort of teenage emo angst. I can't stand movie!Spider-Man for that reason.

As happy as that made me, the plot itself was rather blah. Maybe that's just me, maybe it was just in how the tension was built. Maybe it was because there wasn't enough Snape!action. JOKING. There wasn't enough Hedwig!action. Really.

Blade - November 27, 2005 06:03 PM (GMT)
:: Ignoring everything except the first couple of senteces of Zero ::

BLASPHEMY!

So the movies aren't as great as the books...I noticed Zelos already point this out as I was scrolling down: The books and the movie are vastly different.

I liked the movie. I found it to be well done this time. It was also more chronological this time, unlike the 3rd one.... Whatever the case, I liked it. Why I liked it is something I don't care to get into right now ... yea don't even ask, I just don't feel like detailing everything right now.

Funniest part(s) of the movie:
1) Entrance of the Beauxbatons girls. The little dance gave me a big laugh.
2) Harry in the Prefects' Bathroom with Moaning Myrtle (she cracks me up.... Correction: 'Moaning' Myrtle cracks me up). Plus it appeared that Harry was trying to cover his chest, although a friend said he was just gathering bubbles there so Myrtle could not see down....
3) Hermione passing messages between Ron & Harry.

Best part(s) of the movie:
1) Durmstrang entrance (though I thought the breakdancing was a tad funny).
2) First task. It was rather well done...except the dragon breaking loose thing was definitely a movie thing.
3) Entrance of the Beauxbatons girls (minus the little "Aaaah" part [can't think of a better word at the moment to describe their sound]). *


*EDIT*
Jammer: Down, boy.

JammerLea - November 27, 2005 06:41 PM (GMT)
My favorite part was Snape whapping Harry and Ron during their study time. XD; Especially with how he stopped to pull up his sleeves the last time. I'm really not a Snape fangirl, REALLY. o_o

The ferret thing was pretty darn funny too. And I really liked the little dragons! I wish they'd shown Krum's dragon! Arghhhh!!

Sir Maverick - November 27, 2005 06:56 PM (GMT)
OK, I hate Snape, but Jammer's right. That part was funny as hell. And I just love Moody's attitude when McGonogall reproaches him for the ferret thing...

"He might've mentioned it, yes..."

Blade - November 27, 2005 07:32 PM (GMT)
Hehe...yeah.

Musta been a scary sight when ferret Malfoy was in Crabbe's (or Goyle's?) pants :P

QUOTE (Jammer)
Especially with how he stopped to pull up his sleeves the last time.

Good drama :D

To ZeroRaven: BLASPHEMY!

Momonga - November 27, 2005 10:58 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (JammerLea)
I'm really not a Snape fangirl, REALLY. o_o

I am.

I saw the movie a couple of days ago. I thought the movie was good.
I got into the first two HP movies for free because mum was organising a school fundraiser for it.. I never got around to seeing the third one. It was shown on the plane when I went to Japan, but that doesn't count since it was cut so it was only about 2 hours long, and I couldn't see the screen properly...

Um.. yes. I liked the movie.. my friend sitting next to me was making scary comments.

... Would of been better if Seijuurou was in it. :D

Blade - November 28, 2005 04:46 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Momonga @ Nov 27 2005, 05:58 PM)
... Would of been better if Seijuurou was in it. :D

Seijuurou! ....

[[ Better me than Seijuurou...though I don't know Seijuurou, I can just say that a Zoid character in the Harry Potter movie is definetly not something I'd want to see ]]

To ZeroRaven: BLASPHEMY!

Illidan - November 28, 2005 11:36 AM (GMT)
I won't see any of the HP movies until they make Black Company movies.

Because that's just life.

Blade - November 28, 2005 11:38 PM (GMT)
((This is the first and last time I'll do this without having any meaningful content))

To ZeRoRaVeN: BLASPHEMY!

Oh and forgot to mention this, so I guess this is somewhat meaningful.... I was HUGELY disappointed that they didn't show the Quidditch match.

ZeRoRaVeN - November 28, 2005 11:41 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Blade @ Nov 28 2005, 06:38 PM)
((This is the first and last time I'll do this without having any meaningful content))

To ZeRoRaVeN: BLASPHEMY!

Oh and forgot to mention this, so I guess this is somewhat meaningful.... I was HUGELY disappointed that they didn't show the Quidditch match.

Yes whatever you say Blade....*cleans out ear*

The Quidditch match would've taken too much time I bet...well I guess the snape part was a bit funny...but overall my impression wasn't too favorable...

Blade - November 28, 2005 11:49 PM (GMT)
They could have fit it in the movie without making it much longer...2 minutes longer at best. I'm sure that people who see it atleast 2:50 hours wouldn't mind 2 extra minutes.

EDIT:

To ZeRoRaVeN: BLASPHEMY!

ZeRoRaVeN - November 29, 2005 12:20 AM (GMT)
Heh. I knew it.

Yes but I'm sure such a scene would run up the production costs for what a 2 minute scene? And just because it's two minutes on the screen doesn't mean it'll be 2 minutes of actual production work. I estimate it would be about, oh at least 2 weeks maybe for those specific 2 minutes...

Blade - November 29, 2005 05:45 PM (GMT)
To ZeRoRaVeN: BLASPHEMY!

Considering the revenue that the movie would generate, the creators would have known that those 2 weeks for 2 minutes would have been well worth it. And the creators would know that the revenue generated would be enough to still profit generously.

Thus, it's a disappointment.




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