Title: Net Regulation (for real)
HaTcH - June 8, 2006 03:27 AM (GMT)
I get this newsletter from state officials every so often and they keep me updated on certain laws that congress wants to pass. This one is pretty serious....
http://www.rallycongress.com/freedomworks/...p?action_id=144If you support a free and un-regulated internet, please sign this petition and let your state reps know how you feel. The democrats want to basically change the internet as we know it.
This is for real.
Hdorriker - June 8, 2006 05:34 AM (GMT)
I'm not at all a free-market conservative. But I am FIRMLY against regulation of the internet. Regulation is for stuff that has nothing to do with freedom like energy and economics :P. It has no place in FREE SPEECH.
So yeah. NETWORK NEUTRALITY!
Seriously, what are the democrats trying to do here, completely and totally gut their social-libertarian, liberal base?
They need to get a freaking clue.
ZeRoRaVeN - June 8, 2006 02:11 PM (GMT)
This isn't really new. And if you really want to let them know, don't do it over the Internet. As I'm sure most of you know the famous Internet Bill that said that clicking I agree was equal to a digital signature of acceptance was not created. This does not hold anywhere as much power as a real signature.
Go contact your local activist groups and see if you can get a real petition going.
xXfriedenXx - June 8, 2006 03:54 PM (GMT)
I'm an anarchist.. and this is baaaad. :(
Fury OD - June 8, 2006 04:05 PM (GMT)
F the feds and government with there re tarted wayzz..Why bother with this when millions iz in need of help..Why bother with a subject thats already under control, while therez another subject thats not under control..
Screw themzz..
Hdorriker - June 8, 2006 06:19 PM (GMT)
I have to completely agree
DefaultPeanut - June 9, 2006 05:53 AM (GMT)
The_Princess - June 9, 2006 10:40 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (DefaultPeanut @ Jun 9 2006, 03:53 PM) |
| <3 Canada. |
there is a severe problem with this statement
IF your traffic (as is absolutley GARUNTEED TO if oyu life in canada) passes via the us of a then you cop it in the teeth via thee laws.
pisses me off. im in australia, htis SHIRT! is going ot affect me an of ocure I cant lobby congress.
sammich - June 9, 2006 01:33 PM (GMT)
Actually just linking that page doesn't even explain what "Net Neutrality" is.
here is a run down of some aspects
from Save The Internet a Pro Net Neutrality site.
Here's another look
handsoff an anti Net Neutrality site.
Most Anti Net Neutrality sites dislike any idea of the government's involvement. And it's actually more complex than what I have time to type here at the moment.
However you feel about the subject, signing an online petition is pretty useless. You need to contact your congressman directly if you have concerns over ANY bill.
HaTcH - June 9, 2006 01:54 PM (GMT)
The link I posted previously was to send a professional email to your state senators. They referred to it as a petiton, but its more direct than that.
But yeah, this is pretty big. Its interesting how the pro net-neutrality and anti people put their points... The ones for it say that net-neutrality strips us of the free market system online and says that government regulation may impose taxes on the internet. (There was a bill that went through congress, called the Internet Tax Moratorium, but I dont know how it did, but it was supposed to forever free the net from taxes..). The other side combats that by claiming the ISPs will block or slow down certain competition sites in an effort to keep themselves on top.
In my oppinion, thats pretty dumb. If an ISP slows down service to sites that a user uses, 1 of 2 things can happen: 1, the user gets POed and switches ISPs or 2, (like what the pro joes say) people will switch services. In light of 1, I don't think ISPs would do that stuff. Anyway, an intelligent user could simply setup a proxy to bypass the slow down.
Heres the part that gets me; this crap is really targeted at dialup ISPs. Which is something that is slowly being phased out for higher speed providers. The reason I say this is because in many areas only one or 2 providers of high speed internet exist. For example, at my house, there is no DSL service. But I have cable service... which is the only one I can get. Down in the city at my other friends house, he has the ability to choose between DSL and Cable for broadband. DSL is offered by only 1 company (and they tried it and it was horribly slow, due to the way DSL is) and cable (what they use now) is offered by only one.
Dialup ISPs can exist everywhere, and thats where the competition lives. I can name in my area alone TONS of dialup ISPs.. NuNet, PeoplePC, AOL, MSN, Epix and I'm sure theres others.
Tilly - June 9, 2006 02:18 PM (GMT)
Yeah, there's only one cable and only one DSL thing here, and a crapload of dialup ones. If for some reason I got miffed at mine, finding another would be easy. If I got DSL or cable and the same happened? Not so easy, and they'd know it.
HaTcH - June 9, 2006 05:19 PM (GMT)
What ISPs really crack down on is the illegal downloading/transferring of movies through bit torrent. I know someone who lives down the road from me who got his service revoked. I dont think anime is as much of a problem to them as movies. *shrug* I think you'd be fine if you went broadband Tilly :P
Atrophy Within - June 10, 2006 11:58 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (The_Princess @ Jun 9 2006, 05:40 AM) |
| QUOTE (DefaultPeanut @ Jun 9 2006, 03:53 PM) | | <3 Canada. |
there is a severe problem with this statement IF your traffic (as is absolutley GARUNTEED TO if oyu life in canada) passes via the us of a then you cop it in the teeth via thee laws. pisses me off. im in australia, htis SHIRT! is going ot affect me an of ocure I cant lobby congress.
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Please, try to re-read your posts and make sure they are somewhat understandable. I could not understand a single statement from that due to such poor grammar and spelling.
I will sign it, but this stuff, will be highly opposed, so I am not too worries. Also, if this is passed in the US< the chances of it as well being passed in Canada is extremely high, so those of you who show relief for being in Canada, don't, its ill-fated considering the circumstances.
yuris back - June 13, 2006 07:28 AM (GMT)
like someone said before this dosent just apply for americans. everybody around the world uses the internet.so i think for this bill to pass it would have to go to a WORLDWIDE poll (impossible) casue how are they gonna make it that it only affects americans!!! i live in australia and i cant do anything about this.
HaTcH - June 13, 2006 04:25 PM (GMT)
I think it would apply for american ISPs and american based stores. For example, if you buy something from a site in america, then when you goto check out, and select your state, then they'd add some sort of tax.