Ok, its been too long Zoids fans, and I think its time ZE website is resurrected, and revamped. I made this thread for any suggestions you guys might have.

I see some members are making millions of screencaps, and I will be doing so too, as well as media like wall papers, clips, and avatars, ect. So, I figured, why not reopen the site?

Maybe this time, asside for being know jsut as the screencap capital for Zoids, we could be know for unlimited amounts of info, battle stories, data, model reviews, ect.

I know what you are thinking, doesn't that sound like Tilly's site? But no, thats Tilly's site. We need a ZE website, so draw in more members, and reinterest old ones.

I thought maybe we could select a few people to work on certain things, like one eprson does the battle stories, another does the photos and reviews for models, another does screenshots, another does wall papers, clips, ect.

If we can get the site back up and running, I just know we can get ZEF to be more alive.

Would anyone like to help out? And also, what do we need to do to get the site back? I can't seem to get a hold of Duo, so Maybe Jammer can do something?

Lets try and get our site back guys, because we all love Zoids, and I want this site to be more active darn it. :P

I hear you lycan...Its been way too long..At this point, the forums don't have a host to back em up...Its like a baby without its mother...We need a mother...

And Since this Genesis thing is out, Think about it, More fans will begin to emerge as they begin to notice Genesis, / Zoids...

Older fans will be born again, into Zoids..Yea, the time iz now to do something...

YES! thats exactly right. We need to find someone who can host first, then start setting up a layout. FuzNist is awesome at designing stuff, so maybe, with some kind pleases, he will help out with some ideas or something. If Blade was he it would be awesome.

Costs money to host a good site, but i will donate. We could get some hella bandwith, and host videos of clips,or even episodes for Genisis, and other series. Videos and graphics really bring in veiwers. So that might be cool.

I can make some clips easily from the DVD's I've ripped for music videos.
We'll also have music video sections, etc.

Wind, Steve, and I can take care of screens, though I think Steve's got it all at the moment. :lol:

Ah, the memories...

While I couldn’t take any screenshots, I’m all for the revival of ZE. Of course, it’s been tried before... I don’t know how much I could do for the site, but I will still help out in anyway possible; I can cheer you all on at least!

On the subject of a server, perhaps we can try contacting Duero again... *Dodges thrown fruit* He might be able to make special arrangements for a friend...

Sounds like a plain. I'm sure he can't possibly accidently delete the board a second time. :P :P :P *hides*

I can program a back end content management system.

Content? I have all the NC0 and CC/GF Dvds, and an ok collection of models.

DrkX is preoccupied doing up ZGO. And how do we know this is going all the way?

Sweet. I'm in the process of buying all the Limited Zoids too, so I can provide pics and stats and stuff for those.

This is cool, I was afraid you guys would think my idea was lame. lol Nice to see you guys are accually interested.

I know nothing of setting up a site though, so I will just provide whatever I can. I have all of CC/GF and NCZ on DVD too, so if we are msising anything, I can help. I'm getting the Fuzors soon, so I will do screens for those as well, and maybe Genesis, if it comes out on DVD, unless it is already. I dunno.

once I get my job ,and after my first 5 pay checks, I'll be happy to donate money for whoever's hosting the site..Also, I can't do nothing much with computers because my knowledge of hosting a site is very small, but I can give you a large amount of fan art for the site if you want..And thats if there will be an Fan art section...I need to buck up on my drawings for next year anywayzz...

And as it were a great mountain, raging with fire, arose from the sea!

So it is revival we speak of, of a lost memory. Time, the beast that rules us all yet is our guardian, it has taken what was lost. Now the fragments of today shall strive to return to them what was there before, and will be again!

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Tee-hee, pretty freaky isn't it?

On a more clearer note, cool ideas, you guys really have something going here. I have high hopes that maybe someday soon there will be a Zoids Evolution website yet again. Although I do not have much to contribute that is already there from another source, I can give my praise on the effort.

Hosting is always the biggest problems, paying for it, rather than getting a free service and dealing with adds. Not that one should complain, ZE forums of today lives by a free service, but a website is different. I am sure you can work out something.

And if you didn't get the fancy speech, don't worry about it, I was just being weird, I used to be weird a lot, when I was around more.

I could donate another icon libary and some AMV's to the site.

I'm willing to help with stuff... if someone can think of things for me to do, that is.

This again... wheee... it certainly would be nice. We were gonna set up a geocities site as a temporary homepage in hopes that a search engine would pick up on it fairly quickly, but... I got involved in other stuff... and it rather halted...

As for the original domain name, I'm not sure on that. I know Duowolf gave it up, but I have no idea how much it'll cost now.

According to godaddy, zoidsevolution.com is not avaliable yet. But you can back order it for $19.

My guess is that duo has to officially relinquish the domain first.

FuzNist has his awesome super uber site thats cool, with lots of fans, and I think its awesome, maybe we can help support it too, but still, I've always wanted to make a site, and I figure, if I can't compete with Pheno's or Fuz's or MMM, so be it, but I know that all the stuff I want to do, will bring in at least SOME fans.

Like how I was to do 10 second screencaps, a screencap for every 10 seconds past for each episode, each series, ect. Thenorganize the by Zoids, Characters, scenes, places, ect.

I want to make the one, and only, mind you, weapons database. No site for Zoids has a good database of all the weapons. Some have CP info, but thats it.

Battle stories would be nice, but there are so many.

Pheno has got everyone beat on Model pics, and havign them, but I'm devoting $200 a week of my pay, to buying Zoids, and replacing those I've lost. First one I started with is Blood Death Saurer, and second is Bombvern, and after that.... Crystal Death Saurer, which will be relisted on Ebay within the week.

A lot fo you make some cool AMVs, so that would be awesome. As well, lots of graphics, and stuff. If I can get ahold of Duo, and get the Zoids Evolution site name available, for all of us to work on, I know we can at least get it working.

I don't care if the site is not too popular, I just want a place for all of us to have stuff, like pics, clips, data, and all that fun stuff. I will look into paying to get ZE on its feet, and we can go from there. I hate going to other sites for pictures and stuff. We need our own place. :P

Aww.. You didn't mention Liger's Union (and its.. like 50 thousand lifetime hits XD)

But really, we need stuff that will bring wandering zoids fans in. What Lycan was saying is right, we need media stuff. But I don't think going on a site like MMM and devoting it to the RPG is the right way to go. We need to promote the anime itself.

Make contents, fanarts.. that sort of thing. =D

Hee hee... a screen every ten seconds for the whole series Lycan? I've got a few episodes covered for Drkx, but I stopped, cuz I wanted a paycheck... though I guess that won't really come. But my episodes just cover really about 1-5 seconds between each screen.

I'll also donate some music videos, clips, audio sounds, etc.

Once I rip all my DVD's that is...

And... the NEW ZE SITE WILL BE BETTER THAN BEFORE!

Why abandon the idea over and over again? Its time to act.

I could help with the CREATIVE media and whatnot. Y'know flying zoids, plush zoids, videos from the games, reviews of rare Zoids. I don't do varients much, because they bore me unless they come with something special. No sense in doing fourteen different reveiws on the same Zoid just because it has a diffent color that could be repicated with paint. *gets evil ideas about Genobraker Jet* hmm...

Incorrect.

Duo does not own zoidsevolution.com. It's being "parked" on by her old host, it probably won't be a available until a year after it expired which will be some time in 2007, check the whois. I talked to her already about it, her host grabbed it and renewed it so it was never open for buying or free on the internet since duo bought it.

Never open for buying if you're not willing to hand over $100 extra or whatever the fee is over the usual cost of buying a domain name for the ZE domain anytime soon.

I'm sorry Hatch, I was just referencing Pheno and Dx's sites as examples. I like your site though. Kinky Slash Zoids too. :P Zoids humping... What funny clips... :P WATCH OUT FOR THE GOJULAS!!!!

*coughZoidsTowncough*

In fact, Zoids Town has everything in their gigantic database, and they are affiliated with Zoids Fans, which is probably the #1 source of Zoid Model data and stats. (though Pheno's is the #1 Zoids Model site in english for sure)

Hetman summed up my status very well.

If we're talking Japanese, don't forget Armor Dreamland and Do You Still Like Zoids 10 Years Later...the former's a great battle story resource, the latter models. Excite, people, Excite! (or Babelfish, but I find its gibberish usually harder to read...)

As for me, I've got so much crap I should be working on for my site...I mean, I don't want to sound selfish, but that is my priority website-wise. It's my baby...somewhat literally, my hormones seem to think. I always get mad compulsions to work on it certain times of the month :p.

The old ZE had CC/GF and /Zero summaries, though, something I see rather lacking these days as they're not all new and trendy. I wouldn't mind seeing that again...

*flicks rocks at PRT for implying that more-used media forms = less creative*

Ah, episode summaries... good idea. ZE used to have a wealth of CC/GF/NC0 episode summaries. I wouldn't mind writing some, along with contributing the screenshots I've been taking.

Personally, I don't think this will go too well.

Earlier on, many of the ZE staff and community had alot of chances to revive or restart, and it didn't go well.

To cite Jammer, the geocities thing was a good example. How long ago was it? Based on the track record and past failed attempts at this, I can't say that I have very optimistic hope for it. The past efforts might even be bigger than the ones right now currently, so what's so different that would make it succeed? In addition, in comparison to the last effort I didn't see anything new, the domain will be out of question for the most part, you'll need hosting, it's quite disorganized. The system's broke. It's way past the discussion stage, that's been done alot already. Many chances were available to fix the problem, and since the ZE Staff and Duo for the most part holds the intellectual ownership for the name ZE, anybody else not on the staff can't do anything and call it as work under ZE. I don't mean to make this sound like blame, but inevitably I can't see it currently as anybody else's fault. I myself in the past was pretty excited about it, and was willing to help in any way I could. But I've lost the feel for that, my confidence in the efforts are no longer existent.

Personally, I've given up ZE for good. A good example of why would be the ZIT Project.

ZIT Project:
Announcement topic date was on Nov 16 2005, 02:15 AM
This didn't include the time spent on discussion as this was posted after that. It's nearly been a year.

The ZIT project personally was a much bigger try. Not because I was involved, but because it got fairly far and the community was getting involved. I believe that community involvement is a crucial factor in developing large-scale websites in which the core is composed of the community, this the most being of ZE since contrary to many statements the website will be essentially for the most part made from scratch and the community is already here.

ZE's Staff also has a reputation in my opinion for being a bit disconnected from some of the community. A example would be many administrative or moderative actions being taken without informing the member of a reasonable explanation. I've heard it before from some staff that they believe ZE as a dictatorial administration, very well then, but wouldn't members at least have the right to be told? Apparently not. This is true in my situation myself.

My critique of my view of ZE may conflict with the views of others, however I don't aim to stir up or cause an argument with anybody. I'm just expressing my views into how ZE could be in my opinion improved. Efforts have been made and I could say, limited action-however I'm sure that even if some disagree with me, a majority may hold a similar opinion that it may not be sufficient. What action should be taken is of dispute.

In conclusion, instead, I'll be devoting my full time to helping ZGO. Since ZGO has been proven to be more flexible and capable of doing the similar goal in question.

It's quite ironic, it may in a sense-feel like David and the goliath? Or maybe Microsoft - Apple? ZGO being with little dispute has a considerably, if currently any community and is not rooted into old practices and has a quite new staff and website.

I could assist in that as well. I have CC/GF and NCZ, so I could do some myself. Perhaps we could just make a list, and pick what we want to do, then people don't make two fo the same episode. Or hell, maybe more than one review would be interesting? I dunno.

I would be glad to get started on the CC episodes from 1 to lets say, 10? For now, then I can post them and see what people think. they would just be overviews of what happens in the episodes. Then at the bottom, maybe we could have a ranting system, so people could rate how good or bad they thoguth the episode was when they saw it? I dunno. Maybe thats too much, but meh.

I've already been doing that, myself. Perhaps we could keep episode summaries and episode reviews separated.

If someone sets up a fund or something I'll donate $100 or $200 :D

Come back and use ZGO as an example when it's been around for years, man. The longer a site runs, the more Zoids as a whole tapers off in the Western world, the harder it is to keep going if you're dependant upon a community...or a fandom. It tends to show in older sites, I think, without either obsessive-types to run them or an ongoing line of people. And the problem with that and ZE is most of us obsessive-types already *have* our own sites and projects to feed.

Really, I have to agree that ZE as a site has seen its day-see the above reasons for some of it. That doesn't mean the forums can't still live as a smaller community...and sometimes those are the most resiliant.

I've got episodes 43-49 already done... and almost done with 50. Whoever needs the screens, just PM me your email.. and I'll send it to you.

Other then that... what clips do we need for starters?

I dont think I'll be able to donate to the project money wise, I'm gonna be setting up a professional host for Liger's Union, as I want my own domain and server space (instead of leaching off of BCFD).

But code? Im good at that. =]

Cool, and sure thats fine.

ok, so www.zoidsevolution.com is a no go, but how about another name? I could buy a name, and find someone to host, but the name is confusing, as what would be a good one?

I never mentioned anything against expanding or developing the forums(whatever that may entail). That itself is a different subject matter.

But well while I can say without doubt personally that ZE back then was an excellent website, now, I feel that it isn't going to go too well.

I know that you're not trying to get visitors, but that's the point of a website is it not? Or will it be some sort of forum-members-mostly reference website?

What do you want ZE to become?

All of the gtlds for zoidsevo.com are avaliable.

I agree with Tilly on this bit. I have a hard enough time updating my own sites, it's kind of become blargh to take on more projects.

We could probably still do something with that geocities site, maybe make a sort of... link collective like the Japanese Zoids NaVi site?

However, like ZeRoRaVeN, I've sort of lost hope for us being able to really revive the site. o_0; I mean... I'm sure a lot of it could be blamed on me, as I'm not really the best leader.

I try to understand where all sides are coming from, and versing the opinions/suggestions of longtime members who I've enjoyed against that of the staff who I respect, I often end up at a standstill of what to do. And then I just feel like a jerk. DX

But I don't want to give up on ZE, it's too important to me. o_o The whole matter of taking the internet seriously or too seriously has become disillusioned to me, and plagues me now, thanks to some people. >_>

I want ZE to be a place that the current members can enjoy and a place where new members and Zoids fans can join and feel at home at.

Zoids Evolution is not a website to me anymore, it is the forums.

Well, ZE was one of the first Zoids sites I ever visited, and went it went down I was really sad. SO! I offer my help to the best of my ability... here is what I could help you do:

Models Reviews - I usually make extencive and long paragraph reviews to give the viewer better knowledge of the Zoid. Along with history, and measurements of the Zoid models height, width and so on. :)

Web Layout Design - Web designing is a specialty of mine. :D I can also do specialized artwork for the site if you wish. I can do it themed around one Zoid, or all. I could also make more then one theme and allow the viewer to choose. :) I can make/design layouts and code them too.

Okay... so its not that much... but I'm here is you need the help! ^_^

Yes..The forums which isn't under the influence of a mother site...

I propose the new site being , the mother site, have a new name which isn't destroying the identity of ZE...


So in other words..Were not reviving ZE..But, were creating a new home for the ZE forums...

Why not just stop trying to do it under the name ZE?

The problem is everything is going to compared to the original ZE. No matter what you do, there'll be those who come back and check the "New ZE" and think and compare it to the original ZE. People will have high expectations, and the attitude lycan is taking; those with those high expectations will be disappointed.

So rather, distance it a bit, say it's from the ZE community, but not under the ZE name. It's not going to be the same as the original website.

So instead of trying to "revive" it, try starting anew. It may sound outrageous to say that, but it's what should be done. ZE as a website is dead.

New name is a good idea-perhaps a site that members of the forums can add assorted junk to as an extension of them more than a site proper.

I collect Japanese Zoid links myself, but it's not a proper listing so much as sites I really like. A more extensive links page of DEATH (updatable by everyone) would be cool, so long as you found a way to make it harder for people to screw it up on purpose.

But what to name it?

...how about Zoids Revolution, just for laughs?

I always did like the Zoids Revolution idea. XD Teehee. Sounds good to me!