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Zelos - January 3, 2007 03:43 AM (GMT)
It’s been about half a year since I left this place without a word. Much has changed to me in that time.

When I look back upon these boards I’m filled with a mixture of sadness and joy. Sadness that the place that so many memories were built in has crumbled to the ground and died. Joy that I found this place at all, thus starting the change in my life that led to me being more active socially online.

It is hard to see something that had been such a big part of your life gone. I remember the days when my sister first found the original two websites ZE evolved from. I remember when she told me and Kyle, who would become known to most as VanZero and later DueroTycoon. I remember the very first incarnation of ZE. I remember me posting exactly two times there, and never again. I was unknown then.

I remember when Kyle made an offer with DuoWolf, and the forums were moved to his servers. This next part, I do not remember so well. I can remember fragments of those golden days. I was still inactive, for a time. I then decided to post. Suddenly, I was known, although not well. I was still a midget, and frequently looked over, ignored.

I remember the no rules week (or was it less? Time has no meaning to me, it is far too fast to bother keeping track of). I remember becoming an admin alongside my sister. I remember restructuring the forums, rebuilding it. I remember rewriting rules. I remember slowly infecting all corners of ZE. I was known. My sister was known more as she always had been, but was no true admin.

Crashes. Hacks. Accidental deletions. I remember them all too well. I’m sure everyone does. Kyle became hated. I tried to stick up for him, as he was and still kind of is my sister’s friend, and thus mine as well. Kyle began to loose control. Eventually he decided we were too much, and abandoned us. Chaos reigned.

To chaos I brought order. I set up another forum, on ZE’s original home of ProBoards. I backed up rules and reinstated them. I took over. I was no longer the man behind the curtain, I was the head. I was boss. I was not fit for the position.

One hack and everything I had built up again was gone. So I built again. I would not give up. Thus the final incarnation of ZE was born. There was no doubting it now; I had built this board, and I was in control. DuoWolf was gone. Kyle was gone. No one said anything. I seized ultimate control. My life was almost ruined.

I am not a leader. I am most certainly not a head admin. I am an admin, the man behind the curtain. But not the head admin. I was overwhelmed. I almost broke under the pressure. Eventually I did. I couldn’t take it anymore. Polls were held. JammerLea was elected. I was no longer the boss. But, ZE was not longer ZE.

We had all the veterans and regulars still, although the flow of new people had virtually stopped. Veterans began to leave, and ZE began to die. ZE was no longer a place to talk about Zoids. ZE had become a place to talk with friends. But those friends began to leave, one by one. New members stopped coming, and ZE was doomed to death.

I left.

While I have been gone I have changed. Even before I had left changes were stirring in me. I am no longer that interested in Zoids. I just finished boxing up most of my models, condemning them to storage in a basement for eternity. Perhaps when I get my own house I can open the box, dust them all off, repair any damages, and set them up in their own room. Perhaps. I cannot tell the future, but time will bring me there eventually and only then will I know.

I have developed an alias of my own, one that was not stolen from video games. I am Shrike Flamestar now. Zelos is still me, although a different part. He is my evil side. Ramirez is still me. He is my even eviler side, my crazy side.

My interest in other areas have risen to surprisingly high levels. Pokémon That fad that died years ago. It is now my soul. Pokémon is now the blood of life for me. Without Pokémon, I would be someone else. Anime. Video games. Both cornerstones of my life now, not so unlike they were before. Myst. That revolutionary adventure game. The universe surrounding the Myst series has become another essential element of life for me. The series has ended, I have played all five games. I have read all three books, I have played the ill-fated spin-off, Uru. Now I live in Uru. Uru has been revived thanks to GameTap, and I am an explorer in it now.

I have developed a new hobby, writing. I am writing a Pokémon fanfic.

The biggest changes in me are ones I am not so open about, ones that are private. Ones that I will share with you right now.

I am partially a furry. The least odd among my changes, and I know I am not alone here. I do not have a fursona nor do I care much for anthros (that is not to say that I hate them though, and there are some anthro drawings I like), hence why I say only partially.

I am a vorarephile. The second oddest. It is a fetish; it means I like fantasizing about things being eaten. Most of these things for me are Pokémon. Vore can be either soft or hard, where the prey is swallowed whole or where the prey is torn apart. Vore started out hard for me, but has turned to soft. I have actually discovered that another member of ZE is a vorarephile, although I will not say who to respect their privacy.

Lastly, I am a Poképhile. It does not mean that I am obsessed with Pokémon. It means that I love Pokémon. Literally. It means that I am practically a zoophile. It has turned my life upside down and shaken it. I have met other Poképhiles, who have become my best friends. We are small. We are constantly mocked. Yet we are who we are. For the curious, my main loves are the musteline Pokémon; Buoysel (a new one, from the fourth gen), Quilava, Linoone, and Furret.

I do not what made me want to write this post. Perhaps it’s the fact that this is the start of the first full year wherein ZE will not be an influence upon my life at all. I tend to proofread my posts, but this one I won’t. I wrote all of this spontaneously, and feel this post should remain that way.

Feel free to post comments; I will read them. Do not feel free to post mockeries of my secrets. I am still an admin, and will delete them.

~Shrike Flamestar, formerly known as Zelos~

HaTcH - January 3, 2007 06:54 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Zelos @ Jan 2 2007, 11:43 PM)
I am partially a furry. The least odd among my changes, and I know I am not alone here. I do not have a fursona nor do I care much for anthros (that is not to say that I hate them though, and there are some anthro drawings I like), hence why I say only partially.

Lastly, I am a Poképhile. It does not mean that I am obsessed with Pokémon. It means that I love Pokémon. Literally. It means that I am practically a zoophile. It has turned my life upside down and shaken it. I have met other Poképhiles, who have become my best friends.

When it comes to furrys I'm pretty much in the same boat. Not obsessed with having it change my life style or going to cons or that sort of thing, just the art and the meeting of people aspect. I've developed a furry character that bears the same handle, but I don't see him as me. Hes just a figment of my imagination!

And in the second part, I'm again in the same boat. Not with pokemon though, but zoids! XD If you couldn't tell from my art and AIM chats, one could call me a zoidophile. Same meaning as pokephile, different subject matter.

I know of one other on this fourm, and possibly a second, who shall both remain nameless until they post it themselves :P I consider them friends, not my best friends, but good, old fashioned net friends! *cheers*

Secrets are like.. meh. Get em out there!

Zelos - January 3, 2007 07:10 AM (GMT)
Heh, as I said, I do not even have a furry character that represents myself at all. I, Shrike, am human and will forever remain that way. I do have the various Pokemon characters I've made for my fanfic and fantasies, and they all have fur, so maybe they count as furry characters of mine? :)

Yeah, it's so hard to tell with you *Shrike rolls his eyes* I'm sure Kinky Slash Zoids doesn't mean anything, after all :D

Oh, do you still talk with my sister? She already knows I'm a vorarephile, but please don't tell her I'm a Pokephile. I can't be sure how she'd react, and I don't want her to accidentally or purposely tell our parents. I'm not sure how they'd react, but I doubt it would be good...

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Buoysel butt! <_<

*Zelos Shrike runs away

HaTcH - January 3, 2007 07:19 AM (GMT)
She uhh does have an account here you know! XD

Well within the furry community, something called 'furry' is generally anthro, and not just an animal.

Zelos - January 3, 2007 07:22 AM (GMT)
Yeah, she has an account, but I don't think she visits here anymore...does she? Well, if she finds out, who cares. As long as my parents don't... That's the important part.

*Zelos Shrike checks her profile

"Last Activity: Jun 29 2006, 01:43 PM"

Nope, nothing to worry about :D

I know about the furry=anthro, I wasn't being serious there. :)

JammerLea - January 3, 2007 07:25 AM (GMT)
Ah-haha... if it counts for anything, I love the rich history ZE got since it's beginning in Feb. 2003. You've discussed most of it. I've seen less tear down a community, and others that died way prematurely. So I think ZE's had a good run. It's nice to see people still post here too from time-to-time, on this wounded board.

That's all I'll elaborate on for now. I'm tired. X3;

EDIT

ALSO: The funny thing about "anthro" is that it's a term that refers to being human, but has been adopted as a name for that which possesses human-like qualities... Tis funny in a way. XD;

Zelos - January 3, 2007 07:49 AM (GMT)
Yes, ZE lasted a long time when put into perspective. That is one of the reasons why this board still fills me joy, even if it is mixed and diluted with sadness.

I didn't mention this, but I can't help but feel in a way that ZE's decline was due to me. ZE's major decline was when Kyle/VZ/DT suddenly chose to abandon us and we had to jump ship to ProBoards again. Since that was when I took over, a part of me feels that it is my fault.

Of course, the decline had already started somewhat before that fateful event (with the n00b flood, which I really wish I had touched on :D), so it wasn't really my fault, but I can't help but blame myself...

I need to do stream of consciousness writing like that post more, it was fun to write. :)

EDIT: Should I change my name on here? I wanted to keep it Zelos since everyone here knows me by that name and not Shrike Flamestar, but it doesn't feel right...

Phelan - January 3, 2007 07:59 AM (GMT)
The funny thing is, I've been around far longer than I thought.

ZE was founded Feb 23, 2003. That was about 3 or 4 months after I became interested in zoids. Like all my interests, I threw myself into it whole heartedly and, as near as I remember, I joined ZE in March or April of 2003.

Since then I've experienced much the same change you did Zelos, from becoming an unknown lurker into a well known persona.

Don't blame yourself for the decline of the community Zelos, it's no one's fault. ZE was always a community founded on enjoyment of a fandom and unlike larger sites -- such as MMM -- the only lure we had was that fandom. As the fandom as a whole waned so did ZE. Perhaps there were events that hastened it in our case, we'll never know.

But blaming yourself for something that would, sooner or later, happen regardless of any action or inaction on anyone's part, is, if you'll forgive me, foolish.

To shift topic a bit, I applaud your courage and strength in revealing those parts of yourself. It shows that you've come to accept them as parts of you which shows a maturity and wisdom that, perhaps, you didn't have several years ago. It shows that you've grown and once you've accepted a part of yourself like vorarephilia or even pokephilia if means you're no longer ashamed of it. You can't be made to feel guilt about it.

Embrace the person you are, not the person you're told to be.

This will likely be one of my last posts on ZE, I don't imagine another reason will come along soon -- and perhaps never will -- so I can hope that what I've said has at least not been insulting or condescending. I meant it to be neither. I meant only to express my respect.

Geno Saurer - January 3, 2007 04:52 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Zelos)
I am partially a furry.  The least odd among my changes, and I know I am not alone here.  I do not have a fursona nor do I care much for anthros (that is not to say that I hate them though, and there are some anthro drawings I like), hence why I say only partially.



QUOTE (HaTcH)
When it comes to furrys I'm pretty much in the same boat. Not obsessed with having it change my life style or going to cons or that sort of thing, just the art and the meeting of people aspect. I've developed a furry character that bears the same handle, but I don't see him as me. Hes just a figment of my imagination!


Since you seem to know a lot about this... I may not know much about 'furries', but here's a similar thing. First I have to explain something - I use the screenname 'Bakuryuu Tyranno' on almost every message board I go to, Bakuryuu Tyranno is a T-Rex from 'Bakuryuu Sentai Abarenger'.

That said, a T-Rex may not be a furry creature, but is it a bad sign if I think of, or refer to Bakuryu Tyranno (the one in the TV series) as 'my namesake'?

Is it a bad sign that I got a special edition Bakuryuu Gattai Abarenoh (see below) so that I would have a special edition Bakuryuu Tyranno?

(Below picture is of the combined form of the three central Bakuryuu, specifically because I don't have a picture of the separated forms of both Abarenoh's together)

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QUOTE (Zelos)


I am a vorarephile.  The second oddest.  It is a fetish; it means I like fantasizing about things being eaten.  Most of these things for me are Pokémon.  Vore can be either soft or hard, where the prey is swallowed whole or where the prey is torn apart. 



Similar thing here. Only, it's usually large dinosaurs and/or dragons. It's reassuring to know there's other people like this, because I was worried that I was somewhat insane

QUOTE (Zelos)
Lastly, I am a Poképhile.  It does not mean that I am obsessed with Pokémon.  It means that I love Pokémon.  Literally.  It means that I am practically a zoophile.  It has turned my life upside down and shaken it.  I have met other Poképhiles, who have become my best friends. 


QUOTE (HaTcH)

And in the second part, I'm again in the same boat. Not with pokemon though, but zoids! XD If you couldn't tell from my art and AIM chats, one could call me a zoidophile. Same meaning as pokephile, different subject matter. 


I can kind of relate but not exactly. I consider Pteranodons, Pterodactyls, etc. to be 'sexy' but I don't fantasise about them

HaTcH - January 3, 2007 05:07 PM (GMT)
With that said, those kind of people are called 'Scalie', liking dinosaurs, dragons, reptiles etc.. Its not the same thing as furry but considered in some places as part of the greater anthro fandom.

Hdorriker - January 4, 2007 01:32 AM (GMT)
Except there are those of us who like dinosaurs in that way who are not really part of the anthro fandom and thus: are not technically furries in the broadest sense.

One thing to keep in mind about the 'furry' label is that the first thing ppl associate with that word is (people who are into) very anthropomorphic forms of very familiar mammals such as wolves, felines and foxes.
That pretty much describes about 75% of all furries right there.

There are indeed 'Scalies' too, but also keep in mind that too is a label that implies anthropomorphism.

Just because you're into some kind of animals doesn't mean you have to start considering yourself a furry.

I'm also in to t-rexes, or pretty much theropod dinosaurs and mechanical abstractions thereof, for the most part. But even the slightest bit of anthropomorphism added in ruins it for me.
Additionally, my room isn't totally filled with these things. They do not totally define my tastes in everything else.
People tend to think furries are obscessive, and to a certain degree, a great deal of them acutally are. So regardless of the 'actual' meaning of the term, it's meaning to the most people is something fairly specific.

This is why I choose not use that label for myself.
This is also why I think most folks into non-anthro dinosaurs also avoid the label. Because it is inaccruate and gives the wrong impression to people.

So I don't use the 'scalie' term either because I'm way too far off the bell-curve of mainstream for even that. 90% of 'scalies' are into anthro, 85% of those are into anthropomorphic scalies with prominent non-reptillian features (breasts), 50% of those are into overweight or obesce cartoon dragons. The other 50% are foot-fetishists.

This is my logic in not choosing a label for myself.
It's not to say that there is anything wrong with fitting the more mainstream criteria of either label.
It's just that I won't even try to pretend that I do in order to 'fit' in better with a larger, more established fandom. This leads to frustration.


So the bizzare don't seem to be very alone here thus far, eh?





Zelos - January 4, 2007 06:09 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Phelan)
But blaming yourself for something that would, sooner or later, happen regardless of any action or inaction on anyone's part, is, if you'll forgive me, foolish.

Oh, I don't really blame myself. I just have this annoying little voice in the back of my head that likes to make me feel guilty about everything even if there was no way that I was the one who caused it.

QUOTE (Phelan)
To shift topic a bit, I applaud your courage and strength in revealing those parts of yourself. It shows that you've come to accept them as parts of you which shows a maturity and wisdom that, perhaps, you didn't have several years ago. It shows that you've grown and once you've accepted a part of yourself like vorarephilia or even pokephilia if means you're no longer ashamed of it. You can't be made to feel guilt about it.

Heh, there is no doubt in my mind that I have grown wiser and maturer over the past years, and even months. I can't say I was ever really immature, however I did lack a distinct wisdom years ago, a wisdom which my acceptance and admittance of myself has allowed me to gain.

One of the areas where this is clearest is in the progression I have made in my writing. Of course, it is natural for a writer to get better over time, but the rate of growth I have undergone surprises even myself. The meanings and themes and plots in my current writing it far surpass what I attempted around November of 2005 when I began to write yet another in a stream of ill-fated Pokemon fanfics. Just a few months later, in February 2006, I began writing again, yet there was a remarkable change in my writing. A soul and substance which I had clearly been lacking before. December 2005 was when I discovered what vore is, and began to realize that my longtime latent vorarephilia was not such an unnatural part of me as I had thought. Now, it has been eight months since that February, and one of the fanfics that came out of that time then when I was testing out different genres is still alive.

I just wish I had more readers... The long breaks between chapters I have had lately due to school and such has been making people seemingly lose interest in me, and with how long it is now I can't expect to easily gain new readers... How did all those popular fanfic authors get so popular in the first place? It's one of the great mysteries to me...

QUOTE (Phelan)

This will likely be one of my last posts on ZE, I don't imagine another reason will come along soon -- and perhaps never will -- so I can hope that what I've said has at least not been insulting or condescending. I meant it to be neither. I meant only to express my respect.

Oh, believe me, I know what condescending is, and your post wasn't close to it. :)

QUOTE (Geno Saurer)
Similar thing here. Only, it's usually large dinosaurs and/or dragons. It's reassuring to know there's other people like this, because I was worried that I was somewhat insane

Mmm... Dinosaurs are quite fun to use as preds, and I have written some stories with them killing and eating Pokemon... Mostly hard vore, as they're from before I learned of what vore is and began getting interested in soft vore.

QUOTE (Hdorriker)
Just because you're into some kind of animals doesn't mean you have to start considering yourself a furry.

So I'm in another minority, yay! Let's see... Vorarephilia is a minority, and I'm in an even smaller minority for mainly liking Pokemon vore. Pokephilia is then an even smaller minority than Pokemon vorarephiles are! Preferring normal animals and Pokemon over anthros yet still meeting other criteria of furries (let me make this clear; I do not hate anthros, I just don't prefer them and am picky about them) just places me within that 25% minority.

QUOTE (Hdorriker)
The other 50% are foot-fetishists.

Paw, tail, and all around fur fetishist here. :D Now where do those place me within the furry community? Those aren't so much of a minority as not preferring anthros is.

sammich - January 4, 2007 08:45 AM (GMT)
I'm curious.
Do any of you guys like humans in a sexual way or is it purely this fixation on your fetish?

Geno Saurer - January 4, 2007 05:56 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Hdorriker)
90% of 'scalies' are into anthro, 85% of those are into anthropomorphic scalies with prominent non-reptillian features (breasts).


I really dislike mammalian reptile-y images (and creatures in TV shows, etc.). Heck, when I was 14, when Pokémon first aired and everyone was watching it, the very first thing I thought when I saw a Dragonite was that it was too mammalian. And heck, the only mammalian features it has are in the snout.

QUOTE (Zelos @ Jan 4 2007, 01:09 AM)


QUOTE (Geno Saurer)
Similar thing here. Only, it's usually large dinosaurs and/or dragons. It's reassuring to know there's other people like this, because I was worried that I was somewhat insane

Mmm... Dinosaurs are quite fun to use as preds, and I have written some stories with them killing and eating Pokemon... Mostly hard vore, as they're from before I learned of what vore is and began getting interested in soft vore.



A few things-

1: How do you actually pronounce 'vorarephile'? It's been bothering me for several hours now.

2: I would have explained this better, but my computer started going weird yesterday... I usually use dragons/large dinosaurs as the prey creatures.

QUOTE (Zelos @ Jan 4 2007, 01:09 AM)


  Pokephilia is then an even smaller minority than Pokemon vorarephiles are! 


3: Actually, it doesn't surprise me that there are a number of Pokémon vorarepohilia people. As far as vorarephelia goes... there is something about a large amount of animé 'monsters' (pokemon, digimon, the monsters in yu-gi-oh, etc.)... that said,.... Pokémon vorarephiliacs are more common than Poképhiles? Now that does come as a surprise.

QUOTE (Zelos @ Jan 4 2007, 01:09 AM)
I just wish I had more readers...


4: I will read your fanfic at some point.

EDIT: On the subject of fanfics. A weird idea came into my head. It is a comedy. In fact, I'm going to be posting a fanfic soon. This fanfic will be MAINLY involving my sense of humour, which I consider to be quite twisted. But becasue of deadlines I had set myself on another fanfic I was writing, I wouldn't be able to write it. However, I just made a whole fanfiction chapter (which, on my computer's settings, is about fifteen pages, out of "stock footage" of old fanfics I had abandoned. (NOTE: The fanfics were on similar subject matter, and I checked the continuity. It's really hard for anyone to tell it's stock footage unless they read every fanfic I've read on that subject)

HaTcH - January 4, 2007 10:19 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (sammich @ Jan 4 2007, 04:45 AM)
I'm curious.
Do any of you guys like humans in a sexual way or is it purely this fixation on your fetish?

As of right now? No. But thats because I'm not interested in having a relationship at this point in my life. In the future I would hope to find someone, but not until after college (or maybe a little before it ends ;))

Void Dragon - January 4, 2007 11:39 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Zelos @ Jan 4 2007, 01:09 AM)
I just wish I had more readers...

I've read some, not alot, but some.

Mostly because I saw Pokemon and said, "Hmm, looks interesting"

I'm into Pokemon. Not much, more like Im into it in stages. I often go through stages where I'll like something and be oblivious to all other topics. Currently I'm in Halo/Gundam stage.(no, they don't mix, but I'm on both a Halo and a Gundam RPG) The reason I returned here was I went into my Zoids stage from playing Zoids:BL for 3 minutes. Probably go back to Pokemon when the next major game comes out.


On another topic...
Eating, mmmmmm, tasty.

ZeRoRaVeN - January 5, 2007 04:23 AM (GMT)
It would be reasonable to draw the conclusion that one of the factors in the decline of ZE is simply the overall decline of Zoids.

In all honesty, I have moved on from Zoids. I still like it, but I now have this openness where I am not a particular fan of any series, but I like a multitude of series.

ZEF is something I visit from time to time to reminiscence. Interestingly enough, Zoids Genesis's popularity is proved from the download stats listed on tvnihon.com's bittorrent tracker but where do these fans exist?

Tilly - January 5, 2007 04:25 AM (GMT)
I have no interest in sex, period, but I don't have issues with what other people like so long as they aren't hurting anyone (well, who doesn't WANT to be hurt...) and don't tell me about the bits I don't want to hear about...you know what I mean :p.

I do find fanfiction often reflects life in almost uncanny ways - both society as a whole and the individual writing it. I see people studying "proper" fiction that way who look down on the fanfic side, which I think is quite foolish. There *are* no truly original stories, after all, and any story says something about the person that wrote it and the environment and culture that shaped them. Not all people do that, though...in fact, I've found communities entire devoted to fandom-ish anthropology. Fun.

HaTcH - January 5, 2007 04:25 AM (GMT)
I love how in the midst of the forums' demise, the talk about how dead it is, keeps it alive! XD

JammerLea - January 5, 2007 04:51 AM (GMT)
Heheh, yeah. I check in occassionally to see what's up, so I can't say I've completly moved on. Zoids is still the biggest fandom I love of a subject, but I've been obsessing over original characters of my friends' and mine, which has been nice on a creative aspect.

Heheh, it's funny how some of the characters I want to put in Tag were originally Zoids fancharacters. XD

But I digress, it's good to see some activity here! It's hard to completely forget about this place.

BTW, HaTcH, I keep forgetting to mention that I got your card. Thank you! It's tacked up on my mirror with all the other holiday cards I got. :3

Void Dragon - January 5, 2007 05:07 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (HaTcH @ Jan 4 2007, 11:25 PM)
I love how in the midst of the forums' demise, the talk about how dead it is, keeps it alive! XD

And thats the thing. You don't need alot of people or the forum to be so busy you can't keep up. A few people coming in every so often is all. Ex. Here

Zelos - January 5, 2007 05:14 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (sammich)
Do any of you guys like humans in a sexual way or is it purely this fixation on your fetish?

Humans? Largely, no, I don’t care for humans. They’re just not really appealing to me, much the way as girls aren’t appealing to male homosexuals. I don’t necessarily hate humans, though (although I do bend towards the misanthropist side at times. It even seems I gather misanthropy around me, as my best friend in real life is a huge misanthropist and my Poképhiliac friends all also show some evidence of misanthropy to a degree, although with us it’s more so just hating the way society has influenced humans today into thinking anything abnormal is wrong), and if I find someone I love will still be willing to have a relationship with them.

QUOTE (Geno Saurer)
1: How do you actually pronounce 'vorarephile'? It's been bothering me for several hours now.

As vorarephilia is not a word officially recognized by any dictionaries or anything, there is no true pronunciation or even spelling; while I spell it vorarephilia (the most common spelling), it can also be spelled voraphilia or voreaphilia. For vorarephilia, I pronounce it “vor-are-phee-lee-uh” for voraphilia and voreaphilia, I pronounce it as “vor-uh-phee-lee-uh.” Vorarephilia sounds more pleasing to me, and so it is what I use.

QUOTE (Geno Saurer)
2: I would have explained this better, but my computer started going weird yesterday... I usually use dragons/large dinosaurs as the prey creatures.

While I’ve never thought of them as prey (they are largely only the predator in the vore community as well. Heck, this big argument started on this one vore discussion board once when someone depicted a dragon as the prey. Of course, the person who instigated it was stuck up and insisted that absolutely everything vore-related be realistic no matter how inherently unrealistic vore is, so...), I am interested in turnarounds where something I commonly think of as a predator ends up being the prey. For example, the Pokémon Absol and Mightyena tend to be predators to me, however there are several instances where I enjoy seeing them as the prey, often times with them being surprised and shocked at their predicament.

QUOTE (Geno Saurer)
2: I would have explained this better, but my computer started going weird yesterday... I usually use dragons/large dinosaurs as the prey creatures.

That is judging entirely from people who have admitted to it. There is a possibility that there is a large number of Poképhiliacs who haven’t admitted it yet. Our group on Serebii.net is the first group as far as I know to come out and say who we are, but on other places (especially places like fchan, furaffinity, and AGNPH; or alt.games.nintendo.pokemon.hentai, for the uninformed) it is likely that there may be Poképhiliacs who haven’t come out in the open yet or that we just don’t know about (heck, with some of the art on AGNPH, it’s extremely likely...)

QUOTE (Geno Saurer)
4: I will read your fanfic at some point.

Oh, don’t feel obligated too. Sure, I may have a little voice in the back of my head screaming “yahoo! A new reader!” but it’s pretty long right now and can take a while to catch up. Also, you may not like the plot and the blood and gore I have in some scenes. Keep in mind that it gets better writing-wise as it goes on, because I’ve improved a lot since I began, especially in regards to grammar. One of my readers has been a sort of mentor to me with my grammar, plus I have been getting my chapters beta read (read by someone else beforehand so as to catch errors) by her before I post them lately.

QUOTE (Void Dragon)
I've read some, not alot, but some.

Thank you. If you like it, feel free to continue. :D And, like I said to Geno Saurer, keep in mind that it gets better in pretty much all aspects past the first few chapters.

QUOTE (Void Dragon)
The reason I returned here was I went into my Zoids stage from playing Zoids:BL for 3 minutes.

Heh, sometimes I’ll pull out Zoids Vs. II and play it as well. It’s a fun game, thought not perfect, and I’m glad my Action Replay/Freeloader works with the Wii so that I can continue playing it, as I don’t plan to keep my Gamecube for much longer now that I have a Wii.

QUOTE (Void Dragon)
Probably go back to Pokemon when the next major game comes out.

Which will be on April 22nd with Diamond and Pearl for the DS. :) I can’t wait; I’m hoping to have saved up enough money to upgrade to a DS Lite by then.

QUOTE (Tilly)
I see people studying "proper" fiction that way who look down on the fanfic side, which I think is quite foolish.

I’ve read about some authors who dislike fanfiction immensely, such as those whose works fanfiction.net doesn’t allow fanfics of to be posted... Those people annoy me, and just seem like greedy and egotistical money-whores who hate the fact that people “lower” than themselves can have an imagination.

HaTcH - January 5, 2007 05:20 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (JammerLea @ Jan 5 2007, 12:51 AM)
BTW, HaTcH, I keep forgetting to mention that I got your card.

You're welcome! I knew I sent it to the wrong place for you to have gotten it by christmas, but who knew? :P Im glad you got it and tacked it up =D

JammerLea - January 5, 2007 05:28 AM (GMT)
No, no, you sent it to the right place! I only have the one address now. It's just we left for Wisconsin the day after Christmas, so I didn't get it until we got home a couple days ago. I thought the art on the card was pretty cool. I was like, "WATERCOLOR? Wooooow!"

Geno Saurer - January 5, 2007 04:31 PM (GMT)
This is kind of short, but it's an example of my twisted sense of humour, in case anyone's interested: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3326266/1/

"For those wondering, no, it doesn't touch any issues I or anyone else mentioned here except for a certain Stegosaur fang thing technically hasn't been mentioned yet, and may or may no be entirely related to G-movies anyway. The main reason the above fanfic iexists to to give an example of my weird humour.)

QUOTE (sammich)
Do any of you guys like humans in a sexual way or is it purely this fixation on your fetish?


I'm not really interested in humans, no.

QUOTE (Zelos @ Jan 5 2007, 12:14 AM)

While I’ve never thought of them as prey (they are largely only the predator in the vore community as well.  Heck, this big argument started on this one vore discussion board once when someone depicted a dragon as the prey.  Of course, the person who instigated it was stuck up and insisted that absolutely everything vore-related be realistic no matter how inherently unrealistic vore is, so...), I am interested in turnarounds where something I commonly think of as a predator ends up being the prey.  For example, the Pokémon Absol and Mightyena tend to be predators to me, however there are several instances where I enjoy seeing them as the prey, often times with them being surprised and shocked at their predicament.


There's vore discussion boards? Could you post a link to one please?

And on the subject of turnarounds, sometimes I come up with odd ideas. Quite recently, my mental image of a Stegosaurus, for lack of a better term, has developed little carnivorous fangs. hen again, that could be because of watching 'Godzilla' movies. The first series G had a similar body to the predatory dinosaurs, but had plates, similar to stegosaur plates, on his back

sammich - January 5, 2007 07:15 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (JammerLea @ Jan 4 2007, 10:51 PM)
It's tacked up on my mirror with all the other holiday cards I got. :3

Where's my holiday card?! DX

Do I at least get a card for my birthday??? PLZ?? ;_;



Thanks for answering my question. My curiosity is satiated.
Oh and as far as fetish things go. I'm boring hetero with no real fetishes. However, I like guys in glasses a little more than regular guys sans glasses. But I choose guys based on personality anyway. So whatever. 8D

HaTcH - January 5, 2007 07:47 PM (GMT)
<-- Wears glasses, personality? Thats your call ;)

Fury OD - January 5, 2007 10:33 PM (GMT)
YOU GUYS ARE WEIRD!!!!






^_^Na, I'm just kidding...lol...But seriously..This forum holds sum of my dearest memories..You think I can abandoned it. Even while having a real , crazy life..Im doing some crazy things now..seriously...Every days a danger to me..But I still come back here to check on my internet Family once in a while...I say stick together...

My personality changed , so I'm not the same FOD from when I first got here...I m nooo noob...

So WTF am I?..N Genesis better air this year or I'm kicking Tom's a55...>.<;

Zelos - January 6, 2007 04:32 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Geno Saurer)
There's vore discussion boards? Could you post a link to one please?

The one I was referring to is the Big Gulp Message Board, however it's fairly inactive when there's not a ton of drama going on. BG also happens to be mostly furry, as well.

Another one is Eka's Portal which is pretty active and one of, if not, the largest vore community around. It's certainly the most varied, with everything from furry to human to scalie, and all the different types of vore as well (I mentioned hard and soft, but there are other ones as well. Keep in mind that the mouth is not the only hole in a body). While Eka's Portal does have a forum, it's main attraction is actually its extensive archive of art, stories, etc.

I've been considering posting my vore stories on there (first on the forums and then in a story gallery if I can get one), but haven't yet...

Geno Saurer - January 6, 2007 04:58 PM (GMT)
Thanks.

And I have a question about your fanfic - do you still update it on fanfiction.net? The fanfiction link in your signature takes ages to load on my computer.

Zelos - January 6, 2007 05:19 PM (GMT)
Yes, although I've been a bit lazy about getting chapter 18 (my latest chapter which I just finished a few days ago after almost 2 months of inactivity due to school and stuff) posted there... Chapters 1 through 17 can all be read here on ff.net, though.

Yay, I just started writing chapter 1 v2 last night. I've been planning to rewrite the first few chapters to bring them up to the quality of the later ones for a while now...

König Warrior - January 19, 2007 11:36 PM (GMT)
I read the first page and got lazy and skipped to the end... so, don't know what was said on that second page.. and because it's fun that way, I will never know what happened then.

To get to the point though, interesting story, I have a compiled history of ZE too... I had counted your ZE on the proboards after DT's abandonment as a new ZE. The N00b flood was a month of horror and the no rules week only lasted 2 days, the admins and mods instigated military rule and closed the forum to clean it up, but it was deleted (purposfully, but different story entirely) about a week after it was reopened, although I'll note, a lot less n00bs then.

I joined ZE in September of 2003 I believe, longer than it seems.

Everyone ages, changes and matures. I'll admit that I hardly give Zoids a second thought much today. There are many other things to occupy my mind (like my Senior year and College Applications, but also things that interest me, Sci-fi, Star Wars, etc.) I got a good Star Wars story, but I never wrote it down as a fanfic like I should, I'm good at writing, but it takes too long for me, while the story plays out in my mind like a TV show I can't keep up with, lol. I also have an entire Star Trek series that's got 6 thought completed seasons, that's not written down much either. I started doing a superhero story recently inspired by the Superman legacy (but not with Superman, the idea just rolled off of that).

I rambled there, I just felt like putting in my little "Oh those were the good days, but now it's over, here's my life in a brief paragraph" post.

And as a reminder, although I bet only a third of the people here will get the reference...

Kneel before Zod!
(und Knien vor Wolfgang Der König! (Der ist Ich))
A little German to cook your brains (currently in 2nd year of that language).

HaTcH - January 20, 2007 04:52 AM (GMT)
Zoids Other Destinations?

Hdorriker - January 20, 2007 07:19 PM (GMT)
LOL the German reminds me of this statement applicable to routers and network hardware:


ACHTUNG!

ALLES TURISTEN UND NONTEKNISCHEN LOOKENPEEPERS!

DAS KOMPUTERMASCHINE IST NICHT FÜR DER GEFINGERPOKEN UND MITTENGRABEN! ODERWISE IST EASY TO SCHNAPPEN DER SPRINGENWERK, BLOWENFUSEN UND POPPENCORKEN MIT SPITZENSPARKSEN.

DER MASCHINE IST DIGGEN BEI EXPERTEN ONLY!

IST NICHT FÜR GEWERKEN BEI DUMMKOPFEN. DER SIGHTSEEREN KEEPEN DAS HÄNDER IN DAS POCKETS MUSS.

ZO RELAXEN UND WATSCHEN DER BLINKENLICHTEN.


I suppose that's not exactly 100% correct German. I don't know, I never took German.

JammerLea - January 20, 2007 11:50 PM (GMT)
It's not 100% German, a lot of 'Macht-Uppen' Wörte. XD; It's pretty funny though.

Heheh, "It's not to be worked by idiots. Sightseers must keep their hands in their pockets." XD

ACHTUNG is an awesome word.

Dangit, I need to get back to my German studies... Parsing sentences... ;_;

DueroTycoon - January 30, 2007 01:16 AM (GMT)
Yes, I do still visit occasionally, in case any of you were interested.

Jammer, seems as if you've watched a few too many German war movies. It is a cool word though. Ja wohl is awesome too.

Flying Shadow - January 30, 2007 01:36 AM (GMT)
Hey bro. Found this as I was about to delete ZE from my faves, as I am cleaning up my boomarks, decided I'd look around one last time before I go.

Listen I'm not going to tell mom and dad, I'm not like that.

I don't care that you're a pokephile or a vorephile, it doesn't make you not you, people can't help it.

Seriously I'm a furry, 100% go to conventions, fursuiting, anthro loving furry, but I'm proud of who I am and if people don't like it, tough. Everyone's differen't, the world would suck if we were the same.

You shouldn't have to feel the need to hide it, I mean seriously I'm your sister we're suppose to share this stuff. I mean I know I tend to tease you about pokemon but I never mean it, I just joke around cause that's how I am.

I mean seriously I have a pokesona, an umbreon named Umbra and I love her (not that I've really done much with her...I also have a Pikachu character).

I'm not looking down at you at all, I'm glad you posted this because you need to know I'm not the mean pregnant dog you sometimes (alot of the time) think I am. Who I am online is who I really am, people in real life tend to think I'm this mean careless person. I'm not.

I care.

I'm going to keep this secret but bro, I have secrets too.

Don't ever EVER feel like I'm the mean, annoying, bossy young sister that's only here to make your life a living hell, cause that's 100% not true. It's my job to get on your nerves sometimes, I am the lil sis.


Zoids were cool and all but they're a thing of the past I too have packed mine up, well more like threw them in my closet.

However I'm glad I have my memories (:

JammerLea - January 30, 2007 02:47 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (DueroTycoon @ Jan 29 2007, 08:16 PM)
Jammer, seems as if you've watched a few too many German war movies. It is a cool word though. Ja wohl is awesome too.

Nah, I've never watched a German war movie. I was more thinking of warning labels I've seen printed in German. XD

Flying Shadow - January 30, 2007 04:48 AM (GMT)
Wtf what's my brother's e-mail >.<;;;;

I dun think the e-mail I sent him was to the right e-mail addy xDDD;

HaTcH - January 30, 2007 07:28 AM (GMT)
I'd like to know his AIM s/n (maybe yours too FS) as I don't think I have it...




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