Web Layouts, I don't know nothing bout' layouts

Fact:I own a website

Fact:I suck at web layouts

Well can anyone help? I am using macromedia flash (trial) and well I can't make a layout(I downloaded it hoping it would be better than my Frontpage).

Well for starters one thing common in both programs is that whenever you hit ENTER you get some extra space between the lines, werid.

Also, I can't make tables do what I want, I just want a SIMPLE layout *sobs* is that so hard?

I want it to look remotly like this(REALLY ROUGHT DRAFT)


But it looks bad and the tables twist and turn when I type in Frontpage:What it looks now





THIS IS BETA! Very much, please don't steal anything (1 out of 100 people visitng will)

Copyright AnimeShroud.TK

Frontpage.. *Shudder*
We're still made to use Frontpage for all sites made at school.. Gahh... Not that I do, but still.

Firstly, the layout stretches the screen of 800x600 because of the set width of table cells, you should probably either make it smaller and center it, or use percentages.

The best thing I've found to make Layouts is HTML and CSS. Easy to learn and you can do a lot with it. I'd strongly recommend learning it, a lot better than Frontpage, and I personally rather a nice, neat layout apposed to a spiffed up Flash layout.

Frontpage table code = EVIL.

I have a layout like that that I've been poking at for a while...but I dunno how helpful my code would be to you unless you understand basic table/div/css-y stuff.

But yeah. Set the two menu tables to the width you want, leave the rest percents. Fixed widths for the entire layout is a bad idea.

Hey.. I could let you play around with the source to the old liger's union. It looks pretty much exactly like that.

If you want to change its looks, don't do it through the html, do it through the css file.

http://www.bearcreekfire.com/old_union.zip

I dunno, its a classic layout. ;p (well as for the New Union, due to numerous negative oppinions, I'm going to re think the design... Probably add more graphics or something.

You could also do a search on the web for free web templates, and learn from them.

Hmmm so my checklist:

#1 Center width of table cells

#2 Stop. Wonder why Tilly is anti-frontpage for table cells(joke), ok I'm done.

#3 Thank HaTch for it then actualy get around to open the file and pray it'll work.

And also I tried that already Steel, all I've really learned is somehow their layouts actualy work right and mine fall apart. *stares at globs of html*

I like the new Liger's Union layout. Go boxy tables/divs!

Feel free to look at my code here, but keep in mind it's heavily under progress and it's kinda very wonky. I know I have the background for the tables all set as white, I'll fix it later. Gotta make some more classes...

http://www.creativeinsanity.net/zoids/data/testing3b.html

It looks great! (Why can't I do layouts right!? T_T) Though you could do with a banner, but ah it's the information and content that counts. (Did I mention the first impresstion made by the layouts?)

To HaTcH(edit): Yea you need graphics, I kinda liked the old layout's graphics(the menu looked nice), and plus your new layouts got a "testing" feel, alot of stuff is missing(media, jokes, so on) and you said you were testing in the posts. That was "contstructive critism".

This post has been edited by ZeRoRaVeN on Dec 11 2004, 09:52 PM

There, updated it. Users of Firefox and anything else that supports it will note that you can now change the colors...blue by default, also now with green and red. Now I just have to get motivated to do all the rest of it.

I never really bother with banners...and then I'd have to mess with the colors. Or make it a transparent png...which IE users can't see. Ack.

It takes practice to get all the tables and stuff...I'm still figuring out how the div-y stuff works. Go trial and error x_X.

*pokes Tilly* Where's the buttons/thingies to change the colours?

Lower left in the browser window, not the site...the thing that looks like a crayon box. Or it *should* show up...

It does, at least in FireFox.

Spiffy...

*pokes Tilly* Where's the buttons/thingies to change the colours?

*JABS TILLY* (It's a joke between my friend he does pokes I do prods and jabs werid no?)

Anyway don't discrimnate! It doesn't show up in IE which I use only if a site requires it, but (like right now) I normaly use Netscape, it's supposed to be a distant cousin of Firefox..... but nope I don't see.

Oh and the tables thingy you sent me like months ago HaTcH, works but falls apart if I use Frontpage to edit it.

(Oh and on a side note, interesting netscape works find when you hit space and there's no little spaces between, but I wanna use a Brand Name site editor.




The Tables File you(HaTcH) sent:

This post has been edited by HaTcH on Dec 13 2004, 04:53 PM

Nope, doesn't show up in my version of FireFox for some reason. I'm using version 1.0 of FireFox at the moment.

The code's broke, you should make it work with other browsers. I mean what's the point of talioring the site to only the people who have firefox (not that big of a population) what about those people in the smoke filled (depending on were you go; I swear when I went to one I thought I would suffocate) internet cafe's with only IE?

Hmm we are a bit off subject no?