The RPG has a serious problem it seems, and I don't see how the hell someone missed this. Why aren't there member limits in countries? Grado who has like 20 members is attacking Jehanna who has like 6. It fucks up the whole system of the wars, and makes it completely unfair. All the countries should be within 4 or 5 members. I understand there is a limit to how many can go into a battle, but it's unfair when a country like Grado has 3 times the member base to choose from. Yea, so I would HIGHLY reccommend making limits, so the countries will be even.

This has already been discussed in the production forum. Everybody except for you and Aien agreed to not have limits.

It's so stupid though, it fucks up the fariness of the RPG.

Before the reset, Karn promised to me that we'd have limits. If we don't, I'll have to yell at him. It screws the whole system without them.

I agree with strike and Hiei, there need to be limits, Grado has an unfair advantage.

Heh, people start bitching when they are severely at a disadvantage. Why weren't there complaints before Grado became the new West Lycia?

Anyways, the whole Forum Team strongly opposes member limits, so I doubt that limits will come into effect.

Yeah, if limits started coming in, you can't join the country you want to join then.

But if there aren't any limits, I wouldn't want to join a country or anything anyways, since I know that i'll either be on the ass-kicking team, or the pulp beaten team. =/

I'd join my favorite country, even if it was the worst.

thats why im in renais cause its cool :D

I wanna join Grado because its the most similar to Bern out of all the countries, not because it has the most members.

werent you the like 4th person to join grado? or something like that

anyway...in some ways limits could be good but in some ways they arent good

I dunno...even though I'm gonna join Jehanna, and we're in war with Grado, I don't think we're gonna get limits, I mean, even if they got new people it's not like they could do anything...they'll most often use the same people....

I'm still a resident. :( Need to get to lv.3

THERE WAS ALEX. I was complaining before the reset that this time through, there should be limits!

Like someone said above me, if there were limits, you couldn't join the country you want. Then, people would start complaining about THAT.

Or you could just wait until it isn't full.

yeah, but then you have to wait, and that could be a long time...after all, look at the number of members, then at the number active most often....see my point?

No, you have no point.

What I meant was that it could take forever for one country to get, say, 5 more members while one country stays stagnant with no growth....understand now?

DON'T COMPLAIN !!

the Forum Team already agreed about this ... besides, it doesn't matter how many members you have, you will only get more money ...

all the teams have the same amount of units in a war, so it doesn't matter if Grado has 20 members and Jehanna 6 ...

So what? Deal with it. That's how good RPG's work.

Ok, fine with me....besides, its not my opinion that counts.....

The Forum Team has made a decision already, and Strike's point depends upon a promise made to him by Karn. As Karn is not present, by necessity this issue must be suspended until his return. Please bring it up again then.

Any idea when he'll be back? Just wondering...

Anywho, try looking at this from my Point of view. How would you like it if people tried penalizing you just because of something you didn't do? I never asked those people to join, they did on their own free will. Why should the country be punished for something each individual person didn't do? And also, like phantom said, I can still only bring 6 people to war.

A "few weeks."

:\ Phantom you can't say a lack of members penalize you, then go back and say it doesn't matter how many you have because of the war limit. .. .

A member limit would just make sense.. It would encourage more strategy, and less advertising your Country. (Which is FE about ?) Once someone (Grado) has a commanding lead over the member count, they'll basically have a commanding lead over the forum until next reset. I find that to be a pretty dumb, and boring way to play an RPG...

Agreed...

And uh, Pondy...

*coughselfishcough*

See it from your point of view? More like see it from others' points of veiw. Think of all the countries that have like three members, what can they do against Pondy? Who, I might add, has spent so much time in the arenas, that he already has a promoted character. So if Grado is in a war, not only do they have more people, they also have one invinsable person that'll take on a whole country by himself.

Just like Mega said, Grado pretty much has control 'till reset, or till all the other countries ally together and attack Grado, which probably isn't gonna happen.

Well, I can see point in that too....

The whole basis for member limits is stupid. Tell me, why should countries be fair? Is America just as powerful as Somalia? I don't think so.


Strike, I never promised you member limits.

I don't think it would encourage more strategy. Before the reset WL was the strongest, and with all the war stuff, I think I strategized quite well. WL had 500K, while I had 50K. By proper strategizing, I put myself on the right side, and I feel I would have done quite well in that war.

To sum it up, everyone starts equal. Whether they end equal is up to the competence of the leaders.

True dat, yo....ok, gangsta moment has passed..I'm good...anyways, they really are making sense, no matter what you choose to believe!

and country likes of the members...

It's kinda like more mebers like Grado the country in the game, than on FEW.

If I wasn't a leader, I'd join Frelia anyways, but my 3rd choice'd be Grado, after Rausten...

That and pop.limits should be there, at SOME REASONABLE Amount.

I suggested 15, and stick with it. Why?

Reality sets in here. You can't have 2 billion people on a 20mile strip of land, it's practically impossible with todays technology. Basically, I think that population limit should increase with country size. The more overall territory, the more people you can have. If each 'territory' were to hole 5 people (affilated and non) then Grado could have up to 20 member right now.

Catch my drift? Let's try to stay with reality here.

It's already been suggested, and shot down. Everybody needs to stop complaining, and this topic closed. This has already been discussed, and there will be no population limits. Final. You can all stop bitching, now.

These aren't REAL countries, now are they? When we're born, we don't have a choice to which country we become citizens of. Also, since this is a FORUM RPG the wars should be made fair. It ruins the whole system to have one dominant country. Pondy, I'm not saying it's your fault or anything, I think we should enforce member limits now though.

And Alex, you can't pin that "you're complaining due to a disadvantage" shit on me, considering I'm neutral and have no intention on joining any country.

And about the people know getting what they want thing, big fucking deal. Not everyone is going to get what the want, regardless of how hard you try. They can have some patience, and wait for the country to open if they want to join it that badly. We should make the fair choice, not the one that everybody wants.

Hiei just pwned you all, and I agree with him. In real life, you don't have a choice of what country you get, so you just have to deal with the country you get.

My turn to reason... -_-

Well...first off, alot of you complain about Pondy is so high lved. Well guess what! We can all get to that level to if we tried hard enough like Pondy did. Member limits won't effect the war, due to both sides can bring the same number of people in. Although some might join Grado because its most powerful, some may join it because they want to.

^If they arent real countries, we should be able to join which country we want to. Simple as that. If I want to join Grado, I should be able too. I'll only be lv.2 when I join too, so its not as if I'm adding huge military strength to the country.

Not necessarily. We could move out of the country.

You join a message board to do what you want on the board. Thats why I like FEW the most out of other Fire Emblem boards, you can join any country you want as long as your lv.3. You have more of a freedom of choice here.

Now there is still many more ways to reason against and for my topic. But I personally like FEW the way it is.

except me.

And me....Hiei can't do shit to me! Besides probably warn me, but other than that, Hiei aint got nothin on me! I could really care less about limits or not...personally, I think it would be better not to have limits.

I personally think limits would be a bad idea. Let's take the video games for a quick example. Ever noticed how soldiers from Grado/Bern tended to dramatically outnumber the forces from each of the respective countries? Having no limit on population will create very large and very small countries, true. But, this will also encourage the lesser countires, in this case, Renais, Carcino, Rausten, et cetera, to team up to combat their opposition. Therefore, a population maximum on each country should not be enforced.