Title: When a tree falls in a forest and no one hears it.
Description: Does it make a sound?
Eternal Ecstasy - June 4, 2004 08:52 PM (GMT)
The question of the century. You may answer it logically, but can you prove that?
Karn - June 4, 2004 09:00 PM (GMT)
yes it does make a sound if you put a sound recorder there and play it back it would make a sound
Eternal Ecstasy - June 4, 2004 10:37 PM (GMT)
Why would you leave a recorder in a forest? How would you know that a tree would fall? XD
Karn - June 4, 2004 10:38 PM (GMT)
well it does make a noise you could break the tree put some thing with a timer on it to hold it up and then it would fall and you would record it
DarkPegasus - June 4, 2004 10:39 PM (GMT)
unless it fell on the recorder.
Eternal Ecstasy - June 4, 2004 10:42 PM (GMT)
Yes, but you'd have to be in the vicinity... I'm talking about if no one is there and no one has ever been there...
Karn - June 4, 2004 10:49 PM (GMT)
Durendal - June 4, 2004 10:57 PM (GMT)
theres a thingy that Ivan knows but it makes my head hurt (not good at logic... ask me a math question tho!!) to think about it but ask him lol.
Down and Out - June 5, 2004 12:22 AM (GMT)
no it does not make a sound. a sound is something that is heard.
'Ivan - June 5, 2004 02:19 AM (GMT)
Yes, I have the explanation.
The answer is intangible. "Sound", as we call it, are vibrations in the air that create "sound waves" that bounce off objects. When sound waves enter your ear and hit the ear drum, the ear drum vibrates as well, sending signals to the brain which interpret them as sound.
Now, with our tree problem here . . . you can't tell. If no one or no recording device of any kind was in hearing range of the falling/fallen tree, we have absolutely NO way of determining whether said tree made a sound or not.
Owari.
Durendal - June 5, 2004 02:24 AM (GMT)
ohhh man it looked wayyyyyy more complicated before......
'Ivan - June 5, 2004 02:27 AM (GMT)
Theoretically, yes, the tree would make a "sound", but only if you count the sound waves as a sound.
Durendal - June 5, 2004 02:30 AM (GMT)
See wonce u get into sound waves it gets weird, and i'm actually considered a genius,if genius is an IQ of 130+ (IQ of 143) and Ivan loses me with his talking so Ivan i'm officially naming u a super Genius.............
Axem Titanium - June 5, 2004 03:10 AM (GMT)
DragonStrife - June 5, 2004 04:15 PM (GMT)
I see...hmmm...so technically its how you look at it. The sound waves could be considered as sounds, but if you really want to call it "sound" it'd have to enter the brain. I get it.
sara13987 - June 5, 2004 05:02 PM (GMT)
my answer:
yes. just because u dont hear or see things doesn't mean they don't exist. besides, if a tree fell down, chances are it would make a sound, even if no one heard it.
Axem Titanium - June 5, 2004 05:07 PM (GMT)
The sound waves could vibrate anything and be considered as sound. Also, it's very unlikely that a tree could fall without ANYTHING hearing it.
Black Valor - June 5, 2004 09:41 PM (GMT)
LOL!!! Hear or not to hear, that is the question!
MrAndersonMan - June 12, 2004 08:12 AM (GMT)
What if it fell on a deaf person?
DragonStrife - June 12, 2004 11:07 PM (GMT)
It would still make a sound. He just wouldn't hear it.
Lionheart - June 20, 2004 02:21 AM (GMT)
how would we know it fell?
DragonStrife - June 20, 2004 05:06 AM (GMT)
no one would. only nature hears it...and techincally its a noise.
The Entertainer - June 21, 2004 11:13 PM (GMT)
If you've never seen an algator, would it still exist? :P
erkfire - July 1, 2004 01:28 AM (GMT)
No, the tree does not make a sound, because no one is there to hear it.
DarkPegasus - July 1, 2004 05:28 PM (GMT)
It only wouldn't make a sound in space because there is no medium for which it is to pass through.(My IQ 137)
erkfire - July 2, 2004 04:51 PM (GMT)
Mine is 150. And it doesn't make a sound because no one was there to hear it. Also, it hasn't fallen until someone goes and sees it has fallen.
'Ivan - June 6, 2005 12:56 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (DarkPegasus @ Jul 1 2004, 01:28 PM) |
| It only wouldn't make a sound in space because there is no medium for which it is to pass through. |
It's not in SPACE, it's in a FOREST.
I continue to stand by the explanation I made exactly one year, one day, two hours and thirty-one minutes ago.
Nate - June 6, 2005 01:01 AM (GMT)
Well first the deaf person is stone cold as the tree fell on him and second the vibrations would vibrate and that would make noise so yes 'Ivan is correct (and my IQ is 153).
'Ivan - June 6, 2005 01:05 AM (GMT)
I don't care what my IQ is, as long as it's above 100.
ChaosDevil27 - June 6, 2005 01:49 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Durendal @ Jun 4 2004, 07:30 PM) |
| See wonce u get into sound waves it gets weird, and i'm actually considered a genius,if genius is an IQ of 130+ (IQ of 143) and Ivan loses me with his talking so Ivan i'm officially naming u a super Genius............. |
right then........
I belive it does make a sound, even if someone isnt there to witness it, it does infact make a sound.
Dragon_Tam3r - June 6, 2005 04:01 AM (GMT)
Well of course it make a sound comon guys haven't you seen family guy?(not sure what his IQ is, cuase he isn't sure if hes actually taken a IQ test o_O)
Severian - June 7, 2005 08:32 PM (GMT)
I've taken several IQ tests from several different sites. My scores have ranges from -500 (it was a joke test) to 110 to 170, among others. I've never taken an official one as far as I know, though maybe one of them is official. But according to a lot of people, and even wikipedia (usually reliable), IQ tests online are rarely accurate.
IQ tests measure intelligence as the ability, often, to solve puzzle type problems, from the ones I've taken. But how can individuals define intelligence so well with block puzzles that are not always significant to anything relating to doing well, or being a smart person. See
here. So, as an example Durendal, don't worry if you don't understand Ivan's explanations of sound waves. While Ivan did a good job, that isn't even directly related to IQ, because IQ is about solving puzzles and stuff, where as Ivan's explanation is about a scientific process that is in no way a puzzle, just complex to put in words.
Anyway, what are we doing wondering about this whole tree thing? Why does it matter? Lets just clear out any fallen down trees and try to keep the remaining trees from falling, unless we need to cut them down for lumber and land and stuff. Who cares about the sound?
Hiei - June 7, 2005 09:25 PM (GMT)
Why wouldn't it? This is one of those questions that makes the phrase "there's no such thing as stupid questions" wrong.
Kyojiro - June 17, 2005 02:26 PM (GMT)
Well it would make a sound. If i left a camcorter (sorry im intellegent but i have a spell impadament) in the forest and it records the falling of a tree it would also record all the sounds, meaning that tree would make a noise if it falls and no one was there. This question just test a persons own intellegence and to see many ways a person could answer it.
Here a question my friend gave me. If a dog goes in time to the future and bites his posterior in the future, then goes back. How many time would he feel his posterior being bitten.
Ryouhei - June 17, 2005 05:05 PM (GMT)
you know, if your IQ is as you say 150 and so on, you would be almost as smart as Einstein. His IQ is 169..so either you don't know your own IQ or you're just lying
Severian - June 18, 2005 12:30 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (harusaki @ Jun 17 2005, 12:05 PM) |
| you know, if your IQ is as you say 150 and so on, you would be almost as smart as Einstein. His IQ is 169..so either you don't know your own IQ or you're just lying |
By that standard...Einstein was stupid. There's some Korean kid, and some female journalist, who have both gotten much higher. The korean apperently has a best record of above 228, and Marilyn Vos Savant has an IQ of 228 as her best score.
First off, the fact that she's scored as low as 180 (Marilyn) shows that the tests aren't fully significant. Second, Einstein got a lower score than scores that are bad by her standards, but he did much more for the world. Third, by todays standards in Physics, Einstein's theories have been surpassed and improved upon. Einstein might have been a genius for his time, but I'd bet, for sure, that there are already better physicists in the word. Hell, they're working on Plasma physics and fusion energy now! meanwhile, Vos Savant is certainly successful, working for a heart transplant facility, but she's certainly not the world's #1 genius.
Míxtil_<3_fish! - June 21, 2005 06:02 PM (GMT)
IQ tests are different from each other. so 1 person could get many scores
Missy_Roxx_Meh_Soxx - July 22, 2005 05:08 AM (GMT)
It DOES make a sound, but nobody hears it because the sound wave only travel past earshot then nobody can hear them. The sound waves then travel continually for all time.
BlackLabel - July 22, 2005 06:06 AM (GMT)
Stick your science up yer ass and listen to common sense!!
My IQ could be 200 and I'd still be smarter than you dopes. Yes it makes a sound!! Why? Set up a tape recorder next to a tree that is about to fall. Get out of range to see or hear it. Play the damned tape recorder and tell me what the hell you hear. And don't tell me you hear is because you want to you hippy son of a waffle, cause i'll just give it to a hick so that he can hear it and then ask him what he heard, and guess what he'll fucking say? "I heard a tree fall!"
Stupid Dipshits!!!!
Missy_Roxx_Meh_Soxx - July 22, 2005 06:12 AM (GMT)