I realize this may be.. A touchy subject for some of you. But I was really wondering.. You see, a few months ago, this girl at my school committed suicide. I didn't think much of it at first, as I didn't know her at all.. But I'm wondering now.

What motivates suicide? What kind of mindset is a person in right before suicide? Why do they do it..?

I don't just want this to be answering my questions.. I want this as a discussion topic. I also realize.. People.. Well, some people here might even have first-hand experiences with suicide. If you feel comfortable with it, please feel welcome to share your experiences.

Also, if ANY sort of tom foolery is done here, I will personally come and kick your ass.

Well a friend of mine says he is "tired of living". That is the WORST reason ever.

A girl at my school commited suicide over Christmas break..supposedly in an argument with her mother. I don't think I'd ever commit suicide, unless, for instance, I had absolutley nothing to live for(all frinds and family killed, etc.)

You're truly pathetic if you have to resort to suicide. People take life for granted too often.

It is an easy way out for people who cannot handle a suddenly heightened bad situation, which is further amplified if a person had troubles at home, with friends and where the right amount of support is not evident. What motivates suicide? Well, for some cases, the person can just no longer handle their life and the events within, and taking their life is usually done on a sudden whim. In actual fact, you have to be quite brave to take your own life. The human mindset always has survival as its highest priority. I don't have what it takes to ever commit 'murder suicide', and many people are like this.

If it were so easy to kill yourself, well there would be a higher global statistic when people had a moment of great sadness, and for that brief time they wanted to end it all. I have had those moments, and every human on earth will come to that stage sooner or later. Some just move on, some drink away their troubles for a long or indefinite period, and others opt for what this topic is about. Counselling and such can help certain individuals, but for the most case, it depends on unasked-for support from your family and close friends. Seriously, some people would never open up to anyone about troubles such as this. It would take a very special person to be able to detect when someone is seriously contemplating this route, and to be able to comfort them and talk them out of it.

Sadly, very few people are mind readers, and it becomes too late before anyone could save a person bent on suicide. Has anyone in my life done this? Well, not directly in my life, but I do know of a couple of people who were friends of my own friends who have taken their own lives. It is fair to say that they may have been cowards, but on the other end, you need a lot of courage to take your life. Hence, I could never throw my self off a roof, jump in front of a train, or put a bullet in my brain. Indeed, this is a grim topic, but you must expect lengthy responses to it.

My answers to your question are largely similar to Traz's.

If you're going through alot of angst and/or emotional turmoil, and you feel helpless about it, death will seem to be an escape from everything.

The only things keeping me from taking my own life are my friends and family. I live for them. I know that if I die, I will never be able to repay their kindness--instead, I will cause them grief. Some people who don't feel that way think that their existence is pointless, so they commit suicide, I suppose.

Some people don't feel like they have any support, even if they do. Some people just don't accept that people care about them, or are too consumed in their troubles to see that plenty of people care. And others, as has been said ahead of me, do it to deal with a sudden moment of grief or pain. Many people are short-sighted, who can't see or don't look up to see the light at the end of the tunnel. Prolonged periods of depression, brought on by an event or events, help cause this, although many perfectly healthy people commit suicide, as well.

some people say that they are better off dying because no one notices them until they commit sucide but other say that it will make thier problems go away but in reality you leave loved ones with heavy burdens but its reall an internal struggle between the person becausethey have found thier purpose yet or they are too insecure and there is also the matter that is causing sucides picking on people is one of the major causes of sucidei mean if its with your friends its ok to mess around and call each other names but its out of line when go up to random people and start making fun of them but like i said before its really an internal struggle and rare cases can anyone make a difference in thier choices.

Okay.. I see the causes, but quite honestly, they seem pretty stupid to me.

Not that I'm proclaiming that a God exists, but He (provided He does exist) give us life, and us needlessly taking that, our only gift from an omnipotent creator.. Well, it just seems stupid. My life may just have been really good so far (aside from a few social problems, I've had nothing bad happen to me. No connection to drugs/alcohol, I don't know a single person personally who has died, and my life has basically been devoid of the teenage drama that people frequently see in life and on the television), but I honestly think that life can NOT get bad enough to the point where you'd actually take it from yourself.

I noticed how Traz says, though it may seem cowardly, it's actually courageous to go through with it.. And I must say, I don't think, even if I really wanted to (which I don't), I don't really think I could. I'm.. Well, to say the least, I'm afraid of pain. The worst that has happened in my life, pain-wise, was an inch long spilnter stuck in the joint between my thumb and my index finger. That's about it. That's one reason I couldn't go through with it. Second, I firmly believe I can cause a difference in the world, one that will be noted throughout our history on Earth (though that belief is rapidly deteriorating as I come to terms with real life. I swear, school gives you the crazy notion that if you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything. Which, in my eyes, is completely wrong. There is a great deal of luck involved as well). Third.. I don't think I could ever leave my friends. And family, but friends mostly (that may sound a bit mean, but right now, my friends.. Well, they're a lot more important). I.. I just think it'd be too hard on me, and if I'm illuding myself correctly, my passing would affect them negatively as well. And that's one thing I'd.. Well, I'd kill myself before I'd let that happen (Ironic, no?).

So.. I'm still wondering.. What can drive a life bad enough to the point where you'd actually consider.. This option?

Isn't the answer obvious? haven't you ever felt alone, afraid, or just like something didn't matter anymore. Fellings like this garner the suicidal tendiency. People constantly worry about matters that are out of their control carrying the whole weight of the world on their shoulders. living situation could be a reason, look at this kid lets call him jim, ever since he was 6 his parents belived in disciplne by belt, he's now 14 and has attempted suicide 3 times, failed all three times, he felt like he wasn't worth anything because thats how he felt at home.
Now take me, I have been brought up in a house were if you look dress or act like me, you have a beatin waiting for you. I can't go a week wihtout getting my fingers slammed in a drawer or getting my face singed with a iron but I've never once thought that as a reason for suicide, they've never loved me atleast I've accepted that .

Suicidal tendicies, I'm no stranger to pain nor am I afraid of it, suicide is for those who want to weasel out of what pain they have, to quick, and to easy. Death is meant to be painful. To be complete you should feel all the life leave you so then at that moment you know that you had life at some point and you can accept your fate as it is. Suicide is for those who wish for release from something never meant to be released, it disgusts me how they try and justify a qucik death acting as if they are deserving, I say this now no one myself included deserves a quick easy way out. I'm 17 now going to be 18 soon my home life is shit, my only refuge from it all is the people I care about, more so then myself but I have never saw suicide as an excuse to take away my pain. Sinning as I have I am not deserving of redemption nor do I ever hope to be, as the years pass I will have become my sin as much as I hate what I am I can never change it nor would I ever want to, why? because I deserve it. anyone who's in a bad living or social situation is there for a reason no quick release of death will change that, you entingush whatever hope of getting out of that situation once you do that. you give up and just make things worse, ones suicide has NEVER benifited anything it just screws things up and hurts people, its a disgusting action one I hope never to see or hear again.

Umm.. What's wrong with the belt?

Seems to have worked rather well in me.

His parents beat him every day witt that thing they belived in the catholic way were nothing is forgiven if skin is not stripped, my parents are more severe but enough of that will drive you to make a stupid descion

That's.. The catholic belief..?

Woow... That's.. crazy.

Uh.. I'm Catholic and I'm not beaten.

I said its the catholic way, it was started way back when when preists woud reed tehmselves until flesh was stripped, it was punishment from their sin, Its not a common practice by most catholics but his do it as do mine even more so.....

Through early morning fog I see
Visions of the things to be,
The pains that are withheld for me,
I realize and I can see...

That suicide is painless,
It brings on many changes
And I can take or leave it if I please.

The game of life is hard to play,
I'm going to loose it anyway,
The loosing card I'll someday lay;
So this is all I have to say...

That suicide is painless,
It brings on many changes
And I can take or leave it if I please.

The only way to win is cheat
And lay it down before I'm beat
And to another give my seat
For that's the only painless feat.

That suicide is painless,
It brings on many changes
And I can take or leave it if I please.
And you can do the same thing if you please

Agreed.

I've got no other way to put it.

...There are two types of pain in the world; physical and emotional. Both are unique, and yet tied together in one uniform fashion-- each of them inflicts some sort of harm to the psyche or the spirit within the affected person. Oftentimes, we find that there are certain individuals who feel the emotional variety of pain, and are afflicted with extreme amounts of anxiety and stress that makes the seemingly trivial pain increase tenfold in a matter of months.

...Have you ever felt so torn apart inside, that the pain is actually felt in the body? Have you ever had such stress and anxiety, that it literally feels as if your chest is about to implode upon itself? Or perhaps those who have gone through it have felt the sinking feeling, as if death itself is dragging down their hearts, or felt the cold chill that strikes its roots in a person's soul. Though many of these things seem figurative or metaphorical, people who have experienced such things will testify to its physical embodiments within their anatomy.

I, for one, have experienced all of these... as you have seen through my previous posts. Those who know me personally or have conversed with me on this manner also realize the reasons behind it... However small the problems may seem when viewed on an individual basis, the size as a whole becomes exponentially larger when viewed as a whole; and even more so, when one realizes the futility of it all. Problems that cannot be solved, choices that cannot be undone, regret that cannot be sated, goals that will never be reached... all of these build up to form one solid block of regret that is embedded in such a heart.

Anxiety leaves me fearful, distrusting, and worrysome, even when the outcome seems to be absolutely fixed in a positive fashion. As it is, I'm devoid of adequate amounts of sleep (Though I struggle never to show it by putting on a facade of happy-go-lucky bouts of energy.), due to the insomnia generated by the recent load of stress thrown on by finals and semester grades. My failure to achieve my goals leaves me feeling horrible, and it feels as if a part of me is torn every time I speak of it. And almost everyone who hears about this looks upon me with pity... I cannot stand it! I do not wish to look the part of a beaten dog, whining pathetically in the rain while waiting for some 'caring soul' to save me. Pity is poison, and only motivated my will to go forth with such actions.

Suicide carries various implications, but I saw it most as a relief from pain... trying it twice has been painless so far, though I've yet to garner the courage to try the razor. I've been trying to escape the pain, trying to make this cold mass in my chest cease to be... and yet, I've no success, as testified by my being able to post today. The pain is constant, and seems only to leave when I am in a state of mania (I'm bi-polar. Depression is offset by the onset of mania.)... if it is not present, that same, heavy weight continues to drag down my morale, my hope, and my will to go on.

Yes, I have friends, and I know going through with it would hurt them. I had gotten my affairs in order twice before, and have been unsuccessful twice so far. Am I pathetic? Yes. But this is the truth, and I have spoken, just as you have requested.

For a parent to beat you I think is crazy. What the hell does it do? Tells you not to do something, or you will expect pain. Is that a good way to learn something? Isn't it better to be tolerant, and teach in a way with mutual benefits?

People who want to commit suicide are pretty much cowards. They should see help RIGHT AWAY. It wouldn't be too late. Now, if you commit suicide in a way that hurts other people, CONGRATULATIONS, you have achieved the IQ of a rock. Come on, man! It's bad enough that you want to hurt yourself, but to hurt others just for a wast of energy?

As a final protest, also.

well here's another one people get beaten alot so thats how they escape the pain and no air grady and hiei your both wrong its not pathetic because people see it as the only way out i used to say to myself that i would commit suicide but not anymore u know why because i used to be beaten with the satilite dish cable,wooden spoons the metal parts of fly swatters and even belts but im not beaten anymore try looking at it from both sides instead of just yours.

i have two friends that are suicidal........

their reasons(like all reasons) can be solved with help. death is a permanent consequence to a temporary pain. we all have bad times....

live life for those you love..... its my belief god does exsist so... if you love god how can you run out of somthing to love..... just my opinion.... take it or leave it :)

I tried to commit suicide... but before you die at the last second your whole life flashes before you (not the bad but the good) and you either stop or are screwed and die right when you change your mind... I had done it because I had just been stupid... (reasons won't be said in public) and because it had seemed easier to take the pain for a slow amount of time than the pain in my body (emotional not physical)... and well... it is pathetic... but it is not stupid. It's meant to take away the pain for ever... leave you in comfort and satisfaction (blah blah after life religion stuff... not meant to be sarcastic just not allowed to talk about unless wanter to be warned) of knowing the pain is gone for ever. Knowing that you can sleep peacefully and what ever you beileve happens... and that's all that really happens... you die but come back knowing what will happen in your life... thus being the life flashing before your eyes... and well... it was satisfying knowing it got better but was gettin boring for a week (kinda knew what would happen) and since then I have always taken this subject and death as a serious thing... just because of some stuff that happened.

Dude, that totally sucks. But there are many other ways than suicide; while there is a hell of a lot to be desired from often shitty child protection programs, they're a better option than suicide. There's almost always a way out besides just ending everything and escaping.

i wonder who that is <_<

Yes.

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shh lmao *secret*

YAY!! go suicide!!! Woot.

Woah, that was on a Rage Against the Machine CD cover....


I thought it was fake...

damn.


On topic, I prefer to hold back my thoughts on it.

Nope, as real as fuck.

<_<

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Aww kooyah I'm touched. Hehe, suicide is fun. XD

I think the illusion that you have nothing to live for / that your excistence is pointless, will lead to suicide.

I might commit suicide becuz of many reasons including my love life which is why ppl at my school think I'm "emo" now 0.o

0.o.;; Um, don't joke about killing yourself...

You present a good point, but that's still a Necro. Try not to do that.

My grandfather saw that happen. He don't talk about it though.

Suicide is pointless if you ask me. It's a pointless action that only hurts those you care about. I know some suicidal people, that are close friends of mine. I often try to explain the stupidity of it, but, it's hard to influence minds of the determined.

However, anyone with a single person that they can say cares for them, no matter how small, has no reason to consider it. If you are willing to be that selfish as to run away and hurt all those that you know, you'd be the biggest damn fool in existance, and I'd spit on your corpse with pleasure.

being "tired of life" is a horred thing. U wake up and go throw life sad and depresed. Suicide my seem like the only way out. But all you need is friends, somone how cares. most cases are of people with a sad life. 1 act of kindnes can save a life.

Even if you have no friends and every person in the world does hate you, what the hell will that accomplish? The problem with alot of shit today is its almost become cool to be suicidal. In certain groups of people I won't mention *cough*hardcore emo*cough* you're not cool unless you have scars on your wrists or shit. I knew people like that. I was tempted to just hit em with a crowbar upsoide the head, spare them the actual process of killing themselves.