Title: Woah.
King Kong - June 5, 2006 12:39 AM (GMT)
I was just in the shower, thinking about new ideas for the FEW RPG reset coming up soon when I realized something.
What if we're nothing but a big "RPG" to a higher, more ultimate power? I mean, if you really think about it, what if our whole life is just a game to something greater? You've heard people say that "the meaning of life is death", but a short story that I just read brought a whole new meaning to the common phrase.
The story starts out with a young, smart, attractive Lawyer and an older, stuck up Banker arguing about which is more humane; the death penalty, or a life sentence in jail. The lawyer insisted that life in prison was more humane, and then the banker said that the lawyer wouldn't be able to live a year locked up, with no human contact. The lawyer says that he would be able to stay locked up, no human contact, for ten years, and he even goes as far as betting the banker $2,000,000,000 that he'd be able to do it. The banker accepts, knowing that it would be harder to stay locked up knowing that you have the option of getting out at any time, not nearly as easy as having a life sentence. Basically, the lawyer spends all of his ten years reading various novels, dictionaries, and encyclopedias, gaining more wisdom than he probably should have. At the end of the story, the banker, now broke due to gambling, who has no intention of coughing up the 2 billion dollars, goes to let the lawyer out of his cell. He finds the lawyer sitting at a table, with a note under his arm. The note stated how much he hated life, and how incredibly pointless life in general was. It also said that he doesn't even want the money, that he was richer than the banker would ever be.
Sad ending, but it really got me to thinking. The note also mentioned something about how everything in the world was evil, nothing more than a mere pawn of god. I like to disagree, saying that science can explain everything that a religion can, but better. Then I thought about health class, and how my teacher mentioned that a person can go their whole life without smoking, and still get lung cancer, while their neighbor, a person that smokes a pack a day, can live to be 90. There isn't much of a scientific explanation for that one. I've always believed in god, but not to the point that there is some kind of lifeform that controls everything, from the weather to the people that live and die. I've always believed that god's only purpose was to control luck, and that was my explanation for the unbelievable odds that people beat every single day that they live. What if time. What if there is a higher lifeform, that controls not only everything that we do, but everything that everything does? What if, somewhere, there's somebody, just saying "time for you to die.", or "I think this baby is gonna grow up to be an alcoholic, even though his mother is a freakin saint.". It just doesn't make any sense to me. I don't think that we're ready for it to make sense to anybody. I talked to my friend the other day, because not being an incredibly religious person, and him being a preacher's son, I was curious about something. If Adam and Eve were born into a perfect world, and they ate the apple and everything, and then they had tons of children, then how does the human race exist, knowing that there was so much incest going on? He told me that because Adam, Eve, and their children's genes were so perfect, that it didn't really even matter if they were having kids with their brothers and sisters. Okay, that doesn't make much sense to me either, but don't you think that if God wanted to keep a perfect world, that he would've made more than just two people? And don't you think that he would've made sure that the apple wasn't eaten? Not much of a saint, if you ask me. If god really does control everything, then do you think that he would really want such an imperfect world as this one? I mean, if there's going to be an apocalypse, then why doesn't god just snap his fingers and clear it all up? He made perfect people before, he can do it again, right? I don't know. It seems kind of cheesy to me. Granted, I am in no way an Athiest, but it does bother me when people are like "God will show me the way", almost as if they know him on a personal level! I mean, if a person that goes to church every sunday, prays, makes use of the confessional, even though they don't really need to, gives to charity, etc., can die before they reach age 40, and then another person who is a chld molester, rapist, and thief, can live in jail up until they're like, 90, where's the morale there? If anybody can answer these questions, please, set me straight. If you're wondering where I'm going with this, I'm not completely sure, either, but I really needed to get a lot of stuff off my chest. I feel much better now, and if anybody is in any way offended by this mini-speech, then I do apoligize. Don't burn me.
Anyways, I guess I'm done with my strange, directionless rant.
strikeraider827 - June 5, 2006 12:43 AM (GMT)
Sorry that I didn't read your entire post, but I have something that needs to be said.
Simply, I think our entire dimension is just a game to another dimension. I've always thought this, as I can remember in kindergarten. I remember I looked at the front of a math book and saw a kid watching himself in the exact same format on another tv, and so on. I think we're all just a big dollhouse to some little girl in another reality.
Alex - June 5, 2006 12:50 AM (GMT)
We are individuals with our own thoughts and will and everything. There are no higher beings that use us as pawns. MAYBE there are gods, but they just don't play around with us like we are a part of a game.
Death Love - June 5, 2006 12:53 AM (GMT)
Your point of view only applies to people who don't know the meaning. But people who search for the meaning will have lots and lots of choices but one will stand above. All you have to do is remeber and look. The lawyer was pointlessly spending his time just reading, while he could have been spending his time doing something.
And in my belief, we are on Earth to worship god. Then we get our rewards and punishments. Everything is all ready written down, all god is waiting for is us to do it. That is the purpose of life in my religion.
King Kong - June 5, 2006 12:58 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Darkhero @ Jun 4 2006, 07:53 PM) |
Your point of view only applies to people who don't know the meaning. But people who search for the meaning will have lots and lots of choices but one will stand above. All you have to do is remeber and look. The lawyer was pointlessly spending his time just reading, while he could have been spending his time doing something. And in my belief, we are on Earth to worship god. Then we get our rewards and punishments. Everything is all ready written down, all god is waiting for is us to do it. That is the purpose of life in my religion. |
Another part of the note said that "We build up lives, money, memories, and possessions, and then, when we die, as does our legend. Our memory may still lie with the rest of the world, but we are not there to enjoy it."
Puff - June 5, 2006 12:59 AM (GMT)
I didn't read your whole post. But the 2nd section made me think of a quote from "The Catcher in the Rye." In Chapter 2 when Holden talks to his old History teacher, Mr. Spenser. Mr. Spenser says "Life is a game, boy. Life is a game that one plays according to the rules." Holden planely agrees then explains to the readers "Game, my ass. Some gome. If you get on the side where all the hot-shots are, then it's a game, all right--I'll admit that. But if you get on the other side, where there aren't any hot-shots, then what's a game about it? Nothing. No game."
And that's my 2 cents for now. Will read the rest later.
Lades - June 5, 2006 03:24 AM (GMT)
It's a mindless paradox with absolutely no explanination that humans can understand. So just have faith in whatever you want, and hope that it works out.
I've thought of countless existance theories...but it's never gonna make sense, so why bother.
legoroy2 - June 5, 2006 09:29 PM (GMT)
Answer: Play "Star Ocean: Till The End Of Time"
Dragon_Tam3r - June 5, 2006 09:43 PM (GMT)
Of course, a game can explain everything <_<, anyways, I've thought about this for a while, a good 7 or so years in fact, anyways, it only seems belive abke because of the whole video game feeling that we control all of these pixels and they do exactly what we tell them to, before that, people proablly haven't felt this way alot, as far as the whole religion thing, I don't think so, my parents are VERY religious, but i'm still an atheist after all these years of them trying
But who knows about the whole "we are pawns" 'cause that gut feeling you sometimes get, who knows where that comes from, and those times where you randomly get like detoured, like because of a pain, or a "calling" and what you were first going to do, somthing bad happens? Like that 9-11, my uncle was about to go on the plane that was headed to some unknown place, but ended up crashing in like the middle of nowhere because those guys stop the plane-knappers. But he didn't go there because my grandmother had like subconsiously told him not too (she and most of the rest of my family say it's telepathic), and she has done that alot, before, but that's another story, so basically, if it haven't had been her gift to be practically able to tell the future, my uncle, and 4 of his children would've died.
Gatemaster Leon - June 5, 2006 10:24 PM (GMT)
The only hand and God ever played in this world was creation.
Yes, two particles of energy collided to create matter and anti-matter and then just magically formed into stars and planets.
But that doesn't just happen... Who created those particles of energy? Who created the void they were shooting around in? Who determined what would be created when they collided? Who determined what would be created when there was only matter left, and why wasn't anti-matter the dominant of the two? Or maybe it is and we just don't know, having only experienced being part of "matter" ourselves. Then, who let evolution take place? Who led evolution through its course until we were made?
All these questions, are where God comes into play. Chance is purely that, chance. Luck is nonexistent unless it is programmed. God simply gave us the building blocks and led the way. Even now, his hand is working somewhere, certainly not on us, but it is working at some other organism, perhaps on some other planet, to bring them where we are.
We are sentient self-supporting organisms now, God's hand is no longer necessary, so he has moved on.
Call it my own religion if you will... but I strongly support it, and that all of the Gods and Goddesses are the same, no matter what religion you look at, each of them possessed the same powers, and no matter what the people did, the Gods still would not treat them kindly. This is why I say, they were there, but they are no more.
And whether there was one god or thousands of them doesn't matter, but there was a larger force on this planet at some point.
Blademastersupreme - June 5, 2006 10:46 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Gatemaster Leon @ Jun 5 2006, 05:24 PM) |
The only hand and God ever played in this world was creation.
Yes, two particles of energy collided to create matter and anti-matter and then just magically formed into stars and planets.
But that doesn't just happen... Who created those particles of energy? Who created the void they were shooting around in? Who determined what would be created when they collided? Who determined what would be created when there was only matter left, and why wasn't anti-matter the dominant of the two? Or maybe it is and we just don't know, having only experienced being part of "matter" ourselves. Then, who let evolution take place? Who led evolution through its course until we were made?
All these questions, are where God comes into play. Chance is purely that, chance. Luck is nonexistent unless it is programmed. God simply gave us the building blocks and led the way. Even now, his hand is working somewhere, certainly not on us, but it is working at some other organism, perhaps on some other planet, to bring them where we are.
We are sentient self-supporting organisms now, God's hand is no longer necessary, so he has moved on.
Call it my own religion if you will... but I strongly support it, and that all of the Gods and Goddesses are the same, no matter what religion you look at, each of them possessed the same powers, and no matter what the people did, the Gods still would not treat them kindly. This is why I say, they were there, but they are no more.
And whether there was one god or thousands of them doesn't matter, but there was a larger force on this planet at some point. |
That was awesome ;) I'd join that religion :)