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Title: New Brawl information.


Alex - June 7, 2006 10:32 AM (GMT)
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It confirmed that the following characters will appear in new the opus of Bros Smash:

Bowser Junior

Ridley, the famous enemy of Samus

Link version Wind Waker



Then certain characters will disappear:

Ice Climbers


Mr. Game & Watch

Link version child


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The good news is that the number of characters in the game should reach forty and it is expected that another fifteen unannounced characters remain.


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The fans of Falco will be with the angels, since it as confirmed as the characters who were not formerly that “clones” will remain but will be worked over again to offer a true panel of blows to them.

Ronian - June 7, 2006 02:35 PM (GMT)
Windwaker Link should be... interesting. Not that paint-brush-wielding Baby Bowser won't be weird enough. But RIDLEY!!! That's amazing!

Valter - June 7, 2006 04:20 PM (GMT)
:o Ridley???????? AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
The Ice Climbers didn't deserve to stay anyway. They sucked. Same with G&W. Young Link will be replaced with WW Link. I'm happy. ^^

Blademastersupreme - June 7, 2006 07:00 PM (GMT)
All good changes. Ice Climbers were crap and so was game & watch (Most disapointing final unlock ever!)

Alex - June 7, 2006 07:21 PM (GMT)
To the Ice Climber haters:
They are TEH_PRO characters. They are only good in a pro's hands. I'm not even good with them. They are counters to virtually every character. They don't have any counters themselves.

LoZfan03 - June 7, 2006 10:48 PM (GMT)
meh, Ness should be able to beat any set of Ice Climbers at the same or near skill level

but no Young Link??? YL >>> Link, his speed and many long range moves put him near the top tier in my friend group. hopefully WW Link will be a decent replacement for YL

Lionheart - June 7, 2006 10:56 PM (GMT)
Youuuuuuuuung Liiiiiiink Nooooooooooooooooooo.

Alex - June 7, 2006 10:57 PM (GMT)
Eh... Young Link is closer to the bottom of the tier list than the top. =/.

Link is better than him by a lot.

I Have a Sandwich - June 7, 2006 11:14 PM (GMT)
Ice Climbers are THE ULTIMATE ownage if you can use em. Characters like Link and such aren't that good, its just easy for a beginner to use em well.

Ridley. Yay.

Hiei - June 7, 2006 11:49 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Alex @ Jun 7 2006, 02:21 PM)
To the Ice Climber haters:
They are TEH_PRO characters. They are only good in a pro's hands. I'm not even good with them. They are counters to virtually every character. They don't have any counters themselves.

wtf are you talking about

they're like mid tier

Lionheart - June 7, 2006 11:53 PM (GMT)
Ice Climbers are about 3. This one guy got sick with them so they were moved up.

As for Y. Link, he's so much better than Link. Like you said with IC, in a pros hands he rocks. He's so much better at turtling than Link.

Hiei - June 7, 2006 11:56 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Karn @ Jun 7 2006, 06:53 PM)
Ice Climbers are about 3. This one guy got sick with them so they were moved up.

As for Y. Link, he's so much better than Link. Like you said with IC, in a pros hands he rocks. He's so much better at turtling than Link.

Huh? He's low Tier

strikeraider827 - June 7, 2006 11:57 PM (GMT)
G&W is just like Ness in the original SSB, difficult to master, but if you do is the best character in the game.

Hiei - June 7, 2006 11:58 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (strikeraider827 @ Jun 7 2006, 06:57 PM)
G&W is just like Ness in the original SSB, difficult to master, but if you do is the best character in the game.

You have no idea what you're talking about...

He's not.


Lionheart - June 8, 2006 12:00 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (AL-X @ Jun 7 2006, 06:56 PM)
QUOTE (Karn @ Jun 7 2006, 06:53 PM)
Ice Climbers are about 3. This one guy got sick with them so they were moved up.

As for Y. Link, he's so much better than Link. Like you said with IC, in a pros hands he rocks. He's so much better at turtling than Link.

Huh? He's low Tier

The tiers are mainly based on priority, though. Projectiles are what make YL good, so priority isn't really important. The only thing that holds him back is his lack of a good kill shot.

Kojiro - June 8, 2006 12:15 AM (GMT)
NOES! Young Link :(

Alex - June 8, 2006 12:36 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (strikeraider827 @ Jun 7 2006, 07:57 PM)
G&W is just like Ness in the original SSB, difficult to master, but if you do is the best character in the game.

Eh... Fox. G&W sucks. o_o.

LoZfan03 - June 8, 2006 12:36 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Karn @ Jun 7 2006, 07:00 PM)
QUOTE (AL-X @ Jun 7 2006, 06:56 PM)
QUOTE (Karn @ Jun 7 2006, 06:53 PM)
Ice Climbers are about 3. This one guy got sick with them so they were moved up.

As for Y. Link, he's so much better than Link. Like you said with IC, in a pros hands he rocks. He's so much better at turtling than Link.

Huh? He's low Tier

The tiers are mainly based on priority, though. Projectiles are what make YL good, so priority isn't really important. The only thing that holds him back is his lack of a good kill shot.

agreed. YL does have a rather depressing lack of killing moves. however, he can rack up the damage fast enough with bombs and arrows to make up for it. Link can't pull this off because he's too slow, but YL is just about right

but then again, who cares. Shiek >>> all. I don't care if you disagree, I'll talk when Brawl comes out and I can show you

Hiei - June 8, 2006 12:39 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (LoZfan03 @ Jun 7 2006, 07:36 PM)
QUOTE (Karn @ Jun 7 2006, 07:00 PM)
QUOTE (AL-X @ Jun 7 2006, 06:56 PM)
QUOTE (Karn @ Jun 7 2006, 06:53 PM)
Ice Climbers are about 3. This one guy got sick with them so they were moved up.

As for Y. Link, he's so much better than Link. Like you said with IC, in a pros hands he rocks. He's so much better at turtling than Link.

Huh? He's low Tier

The tiers are mainly based on priority, though. Projectiles are what make YL good, so priority isn't really important. The only thing that holds him back is his lack of a good kill shot.

agreed. YL does have a rather depressing lack of killing moves. however, he can rack up the damage fast enough with bombs and arrows to make up for it. Link can't pull this off because he's too slow, but YL is just about right

but then again, who cares. Shiek >>> all. I don't care if you disagree, I'll talk when Brawl comes out and I can show you

uh

Falco and Fox are better than Shiek...

That's about it though

LoZfan03 - June 8, 2006 12:56 AM (GMT)
almost, but I think Shiek beats Fox. I've only ever met one half-decent Falco, so I'll reserve judgement on him. however, Fox is my third best character, so I know him. my main problem with Fox is that is recovery is pretty easy to thwart. any character with a disjointed hitbox, a good projectile and some without either can stop his up-B. however, with Shiek's up-B, your opponent can't tell where you are going until it's too late to hit you.

Lionheart - June 8, 2006 01:07 AM (GMT)
If I'm not mistaken, Sheik is generally considered the best character on the tier lists. I havn't checked them in a while though. I do think that Fox is the best, though it is easier to play Sheik.

I Have a Sandwich - June 8, 2006 01:10 AM (GMT)
I try and avoif using up for Fox except for recorvery. Reflect, light dash and such are much more effective.

Alex - June 8, 2006 01:10 AM (GMT)
Eh, the tier list is pretty old. Simply put, countermeasures have been created to go against Sheik.

Fox and Falco are better than Sheik; they are both better than everybody.

Marth is basically equal to Sheik to.

KuraiKitsune - June 8, 2006 01:12 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Karn @ Jun 7 2006, 03:56 PM)
Youuuuuuuuung Liiiiiiink Nooooooooooooooooooo.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! x.x

Young Link was one of my personal favorites. x.x

...If they take out Roy or Marth, I'll personally fly over to Japan and interrogate them concerning their madness.

Hey, ever wonder if Zephiel could be brought in? o.o He'd be like a sword-wielding, Bowser-type boss. :3

Juan - June 8, 2006 01:15 AM (GMT)
Young link is bieng replaced WW link? :"( that horrible oh well Link owns Young link any day so it doesnt make a difference to me.

Alex - June 8, 2006 01:16 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (0<('.'<)Ex @ Jun 7 2006, 09:10 PM)
I try and avoif using up for Fox except for recorvery. Reflect, light dash and such are much more effective.

B up is only good if you are below the edge. Otherwise, sweetspot with B side on most occasions.

Light dash? You mean Fox Illusion? :S. Eh... B moves are generally laggy and can get punished by spot dodging, wavedashing backwards, or shield grabbing. =/. Using shine as an attack is only good for waveshining when attacking normally. The only other case is for spiking/edgeguarding, really.

Fox is too quick for me. D:. I use Falco if I use a space animal.

I Have a Sandwich - June 8, 2006 01:33 AM (GMT)
Yeah, if I misuse a name, forgive me. I've never bothered to look online for the real names.

Hiei - June 8, 2006 02:02 AM (GMT)
Top Tier:
Falco
Fox
Sheik
Marth

In that order

KuraiKitsune - June 8, 2006 02:07 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kakashi_The_Alchemist @ Jun 7 2006, 06:15 PM)
Young link is bieng replaced WW link? :"( that horrible oh well Link owns Young link any day so it doesnt make a difference to me.

Keep in mind that Wind Waker's character wasn't actually Link; rather, he was a desendant of the original. ^_^ That's part of what I didn't like about WW...

Sheik and Marth were good characters, true. However, Falco and Fox seemed too similar...

'Ivan - June 8, 2006 02:09 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (KuraiKitsune @ Jun 7 2006, 09:07 PM)
However, Falco and Fox seemed too similar...

...That was kinda the point.

Kojiro - June 8, 2006 02:12 AM (GMT)
They need Peppy.

"Do a Barrel Roll!"

LoZfan03 - June 8, 2006 02:51 PM (GMT)
gag, Marth. THE easist character to play with, just because of his freaking sword. hardly any skill involved, plus he doesn't improve much with time. the only thing about Marth that takes real effort is his over-B, and my 13 year old brother can handle that.

Falco quite slow to be all that great IMO. any decently fast character can run circles around him, racking up the damage without getting touched.

legoroy2 - June 8, 2006 05:08 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (KuraiKitsune @ Jun 7 2006, 09:07 PM)
However, Falco and Fox seemed too similar...

Most bonus characters are based off of original characters.

I.e. Falco- Fox / Capn Falcon- Ganandorf / Samus- Mewtwo

Blademastersupreme - June 8, 2006 05:09 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (LoZfan03 @ Jun 8 2006, 09:51 AM)
gag, Marth. THE easist character to play with, just because of his freaking sword. hardly any skill involved, plus he doesn't improve much with time. the only thing about Marth that takes real effort is his over-B, and my 13 year old brother can handle that.

Falco quite slow to be all that great IMO. any decently fast character can run circles around him, racking up the damage without getting touched.

Fox owns Falco. plain and simple. Personally I want more Fire Emblem Characters added in.

Hiei - June 8, 2006 05:59 PM (GMT)
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gag, Marth. THE easist character to play with, just because of his freaking sword. hardly any skill involved, plus he doesn't improve much with time. the only thing about Marth that takes real effort is his over-B, and my 13 year old brother can handle that.

Falco quite slow to be all that great IMO. any decently fast character can run circles around him, racking up the damage without getting touched.


Please don't post when you don't know what you're talking about. You just said 2 top tier characters weren't that good.

Marth is awsome. His only weakness is a lack of range. He's easily one of the best characters in the game.

Falco is one of the fastest characters in the game, better than fox. You have no clue what you're talking about, do you?

Alex - June 8, 2006 06:04 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (AL-X @ Jun 8 2006, 01:59 PM)
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gag, Marth. THE easist character to play with, just because of his freaking sword. hardly any skill involved, plus he doesn't improve much with time. the only thing about Marth that takes real effort is his over-B, and my 13 year old brother can handle that.

Falco quite slow to be all that great IMO. any decently fast character can run circles around him, racking up the damage without getting touched.


Please don't post when you don't know what you're talking about. You just said 2 top tier characters weren't that good.

Marth is awsome. His only weakness is a lack of range. He's easily one of the best characters in the game.

Falco is one of the fastest characters in the game, and is much faster than fox. You have no clue what you're talking about, do you?

Marth has exceptional range. He just doesn't have projectiles.

Fox is quicker than Falco and has a quicker jump. Falco has a higher jump though.

Really, LoZfan03, they both take an exceptional amount of skill to play as. You can easily distinguish from a pro Falco/Marth from a n00b one.

Hiei - June 8, 2006 06:05 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Alex @ Jun 8 2006, 01:04 PM)
QUOTE (AL-X @ Jun 8 2006, 01:59 PM)
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gag, Marth. THE easist character to play with, just because of his freaking sword. hardly any skill involved, plus he doesn't improve much with time. the only thing about Marth that takes real effort is his over-B, and my 13 year old brother can handle that.

Falco quite slow to be all that great IMO. any decently fast character can run circles around him, racking up the damage without getting touched.


Please don't post when you don't know what you're talking about. You just said 2 top tier characters weren't that good.

Marth is awsome. His only weakness is a lack of range. He's easily one of the best characters in the game.

Falco is one of the fastest characters in the game, and is much faster than fox. You have no clue what you're talking about, do you?

Marth has exceptional range. He just doesn't have projectiles.

Fox is quicker than Falco and has a quicker jump. Falco has a higher jump though.

Really, LoZfan03, they both take an exceptional amount of skill to play as. You can easily distinguish from a pro Falco/Marth from a n00b one.

That's what I mean by range. Projectiles.

LoZfan03 - June 8, 2006 07:18 PM (GMT)
Falco is most definately not faster than Fox, unless perhaps you hack or something, then it might be possible.

and anyone playing as Marth can do decent just swinging the sword around, but I'll admit, there is more room for improvement than I orginally implied

which is not to say that either Marth or Falco are bad, most of the characters can be good if played correctly

Alex - June 8, 2006 07:20 PM (GMT)
If you don't know why Marth and Falco are top tier, I guarantee you I could rape you in this game. ;P

Hiei - June 8, 2006 07:28 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Alex @ Jun 8 2006, 02:20 PM)
If you don't know why Marth and Falco are top tier, I guarantee you I could rape you in this game. ;P

sheik sux

shez a gurl

mew2 owns her




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