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Title: All FEW's Problems


Hiei - July 1, 2006 09:01 PM (GMT)
Ok, first of all, don't post here if you're going to flame or insult me. Keep that shit elsewhere, as I'm going to try and contribute to the board. Second, I'm going to put it blunty. Suck it up.

First off, the staff. :)

'Ivan- Head of RPG, keep him for that.
Alex - Not needed, demote completely. He's lazy, and a bad staffer. Completely off the actual staff, I mean. Forum Team, fine.
Eastern Blade Alchemist- Non needed as admin. Demote to G-mod because he IS very active, and did a lot in Mod CP.
Karn- Root. Keep. Duh.
Kipdog- Rarely on. Demote completely.

grondring- Only needed for RPG boards. Demote.
King- Only needed for RPG boards. Demote.
strikeraider827- I could honestly see Strike being a strong admin. He doesn't up with a lot of bullshit. Keep him, POSSIBLY premote him.
The Entertainer- I love you Mike, but I think you should get power over the RPG boards like the other Forum Team
Trace Stratus- Hm. He's an intelligent guy, but isn't overly active. I'd suggest power only over RPG boards, BUT access to staff room.
~Ultima~- Quiet, relatively unbiased, he's a good G-mod. Keep him there.

New Staff would ideally look like:
Admins:
Karn
'Ivan

G-mods:
Crayola
Strike
Ultima

I know that will never happen though, unfortunately. :/ I might as well suggest it though. HONESTLY, if Aien can go for a few months without a total mood swing, he could make a decent G-mod, but with his emotion so unstable, I'd say wait a while.

Why less staff would be better? Nothing gets done. I think because there ARE so many staffers, people think they have to do less. It shouldn't work that way, they should do the same ammount of work so more gets done. I've linked people to stuff that needed to be moderated and gotten "Get someone else to do it," so many times. I know people are like "OMG INTRANET SRS BUZNESS," but as a staff on this forum you SHOULD take it seriously, or demote yourself. Pretty fucking simple.

Second: Stop all the bullshit in RI. It can get a little crazy, but there's a limit. Try and crack down on spammy topics more quickly. Also, the staff shouldn't be acting like fucking retards in RI. Again, "OMG INTERNET SRS BUZ." It should be serious when you're on the staff.

Third: Fuck the skin changer. Go to avid blue only. I'll make more graphics for it, etc.

Fourth: Karn, stop being such a pussy. You care too much what other people think. Even if it's for the forum's best interests in the long run. If premoting someone will upset people? Big deal. If the person is competent and gets the job done, premote them. If demoting staff upsets people? Big deal. It's for the good of the forum in the long run.

Also, if people leave? Not your problem. Do we really want a bunch of blubbering pussies on our forum? I would understand if you left because someone like Dark Hero was premoted, or all the best staffers got demoted. I wouldn't leave still, but regardless.

Also, enough with this biased bull shit. Females should get warned just the same as males. 'Ivan's best friend should get warned just the same as Dark Hero. I was somewhat biased on the staff, favouring Grady. I shouldn't have been though, that was a flaw. So yea, stop. I like Mike as a friend, but I'm saying he should get demoted. Hell, it was my idea to premote him in the first place. I'm just realizing now how over staff FEW is.

I'll bring up more points later probably. But no bull shit in this topic.

One other thing, directed at Karn. That bullshit about "I'm waiting to do it all at once" is stupid. That makes the work load larger, you fucking twit. Do it when it's needed. That way maybe this place will actually make some fucking progress. The fact FEF cancelled our affiliation cause we sucked is a bad sign, because they suck ASS. I'm banned from FEF, I don't like it that much, but they're better than here, sadly.

Missy_Roxx_Meh_Soxx - July 1, 2006 09:15 PM (GMT)
I agree with you on some points here.

Alex, Luis, and Kipdog need to be demoted. Luis should go back to a G-Mod, and Kipdog should be demoted completely. He is just...there. He does nothing as an admin except close topics. Alex...same. He is the third-worst staff member ever. (Worst is King, followed by Kipdog)
'Ivan and Karn should stay admins. They've guided FEW through near everything and hopefully will continue to do so.
Strike should become an admin again. I don't like him much, but I don't hate him. He was a great kickass admin.
Demote King. I have a few reasons for this, #1 being that I HATE HIM. #2 being that he does nothing, really.
Aien should become a G-Mod again. He was very good and should be let back.
Fuck the skin changer.
People need to be warned equally.

I also disagree with you on some points.

Grondy was possibly the best admin FEW has ever seen, besides Shadow. I want him to be an admin again.
Ultima also was a good admin. I want him back as an admin. Or a G-Mod.


@ Al-X: I also think you should be let back on the team. I liked you as a staffer.

So my ideal staff is:

Admins:
Karn
'Ivan
Grondy
Strike
Possibly Ultima

G-Mods:
Luis
Possibly Ultima
Aien

Other possible staff members could be Kurai, you, ZeroKirby, me, Sara, and Taoma.

Hiei - July 1, 2006 09:18 PM (GMT)
I don't want to be on the staff though. :P

Alex - July 1, 2006 09:19 PM (GMT)
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'Ivan- Head of RPG, keep him for that.
Alex - Not needed, demote completely. He's lazy, and a bad staffer. Completely off the actual staff, I mean. Forum Team, fine.
Eastern Blade Alchemist- Non needed as admin. Demote to G-mod because he IS very active, and did a lot in Mod CP.
Karn- Root. Keep. Duh.
Kipdog- Rarely on. Demote completely.

grondring- Only needed for RPG boards. Demote.
King- Only needed for RPG boards. Demote.
strikeraider827- I could honestly see Strike being a strong admin. He doesn't up with a lot of bullshit. Keep him, POSSIBLY premote him.
The Entertainer- I love you Mike, but I think you should get power over the RPG boards like the other Forum Team
Trace Stratus- Hm. He's an intelligent guy, but isn't overly active. I'd suggest power only over RPG boards, BUT access to staff room.


'Ivan- Is actually the "Head of" the Forums. That's good.
Alex- Is actually the "Head of" the RPG. I think that's pretty important.
EBA- He's a good admin. He can get stuff done. Very capable. Keep.
Karn- Not disagreeing with you.
Kipdog- Agree'd.

Forum Team G-Mods will be in charge of only the RPG boards soon.
I agree with Strike and Ultima.

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Second: Stop all the bullshit in RI. It can get a little crazy, but there's a limit. Try and crack down on spammy topics more quickly. Also, the staff shouldn't be acting like fucking retards in RI. Again, "OMG INTERNET SRS BUZ." It should be serious when you're on the staff.

The staff isn't supposed to be scary and mean. D:. That may be what you think the staff should be, but we are normal people.

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Third: Fuck the skin changer. Go to avid blue only. I'll make more graphics for it, etc.

It isn't imperative, but it is not a bad idea.

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Fourth: Karn, stop being such a pussy. You care too much what other people think. Even if it's for the forum's best interests in the long run. If premoting someone will upset people? Big deal. If the person is competent and gets the job done, premote them. If demoting staff upsets people? Big deal. It's for the good of the forum in the long run.

Also, if people leave? Not your problem. Do we really want a bunch of blubbering pussies on our forum? I would understand if you left because someone like Dark Hero was premoted, or all the best staffers got demoted. I wouldn't leave still, but regardless.

Hm... can I get an example? I don't see any urgent changes needed to be made.

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Also, enough with this biased bull shit. Females should get warned just the same as males. 'Ivan's best friend should get warned just the same as Dark Hero. I was somewhat biased on the staff, favouring Grady. I shouldn't have been though, that was a flaw. So yea, stop. I like Mike as a friend, but I'm saying he should get demoted. Hell, it was my idea to premote him in the first place. I'm just realizing now how over staff FEW is.

Being "over staff" really hurts the board. :rolleyes:. Again, the Forum Team members who were promoted temporarily will only be moderators over the RPG boards soon enough.

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One other thing, directed at Karn. That bullshit about "I'm waiting to do it all at once" is stupid. That makes the work load larger, you fucking twit. Do it when it's needed. That way maybe this place will actually make some fucking progress. The fact FEF cancelled our affiliation cause we sucked is a bad sign, because they suck ASS. I'm banned from FEF, I don't like it that much, but they're better than here, sadly.

If FEF is so much better than us, go there... :unsure:

Alex - July 1, 2006 09:22 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Winter_Beethoven @ Jul 1 2006, 05:15 PM)
I agree with you on some points here.

Alex, Luis, and Kipdog need to be demoted. Luis should go back to a G-Mod, and Kipdog should be demoted completely. He is just...there. He does nothing as an admin except close topics. Alex...same. He is the third-worst staff member ever. (Worst is King, followed by Kipdog)
'Ivan and Karn should stay admins. They've guided FEW through near everything and hopefully will continue to do so.
Strike should become an admin again. I don't like him much, but I don't hate him. He was a great kickass admin.
Demote King. I have a few reasons for this, #1 being that I HATE HIM. #2 being that he does nothing, really.
Aien should become a G-Mod again. He was very good and should be let back.
Fuck the skin changer.
People need to be warned equally.

I also disagree with you on some points.

Grondy was possibly the best admin FEW has ever seen, besides Shadow. I want him to be an admin again.
Ultima also was a good admin. I want him back as an admin. Or a G-Mod.


@ Al-X: I also think you should be let back on the team. I liked you as a staffer.

So my ideal staff is:

Admins:
Karn
'Ivan
Grondy
Strike
Possibly Ultima

G-Mods:
Luis
Possibly Ultima
Aien

Other possible staff members could be Kurai, you, ZeroKirby, me, Sara, and Taoma.

Concerning the current staff, read my other post.

Concerning the "possible staff members", some of them are qualified... while some aren't. There isn't really a dire need to change the staff up a lot too.

Missy_Roxx_Meh_Soxx - July 1, 2006 09:25 PM (GMT)
Alex, you are wrong on some points. First off, you are not very good as a staffer. We still need some G-Mods, and the ones that are inactive should just go to the RPG unless they suck.
Hiei is right. You're lazy, and you direct flames to people all the time. Namely, me. You and King constantly pester me and piss me off. Staff members are supposed to help with the board, not fuck it up and piss other members off.

Alex - July 1, 2006 09:34 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Winter_Beethoven @ Jul 1 2006, 05:25 PM)
Alex, you are wrong on some points. First off, you are not very good as a staffer. We still need some G-Mods, and the ones that are inactive should just go to the RPG unless they suck.
Hiei is right. You're lazy, and you direct flames to people all the time. Namely, me. You and King constantly pester me and piss me off. Staff members are supposed to help with the board, not fuck it up and piss other members off.

I am a bad staffer?

That's why I judged a whole war in one night? That's why I spent various hours contributing towards the reset? That's why I'm going to be judging practically every war? That's why I am easily the most active staffer or member now, during the summer? That's why I'm basically in charge of running the RPG?

And we don't really need G-Mods. =/

Do I flame people? No. Do I act biasedly to immature people? Probably.

Hiei - July 1, 2006 09:43 PM (GMT)
Alex, you aren't a bad staffer, you certainly don't need ACP though. You're just power hungry. D:

I can't go to FEF. I'm banned.

As I said, being over staffed gives FEW a sense of security that they have less of a workload, and infact LESS gets done because people say "get someone else to do it."

You don't need to be scary and mean, but don't act like a retard. ATLEAST use proper grammar. ._.

Puff - July 1, 2006 09:43 PM (GMT)
This sounds really familiar. Didn't Aien try doing this exact shkit some time ago, just in a, uh, smaller package? <_<



-I have no objections on your "Ideal New Staff."

-People need to get over the way RI has supposedly changed. The name "Random Insanity" doesn't actually help anything either. People are different on the insane and random scale. (Obviously...) Blah, blah, blah. *End RI rant.*

-Has it ever occured to you that there aren't very many females on FEW? I mean, of the fairly active people, (Sara, Kurai, Taoma, me, and perhaps a couple others). And has it ever occured to you that we actually follow the rules more than you guys? Actually, I've been warned when needed; and surely the others have too. IF they even NEEDED to be warned.

-If the intranut doesn't have to be serious for everyone, why does staff have to take it seriously? They're people too, they were members before. They have lives. Most of them are fit for their job and just becasue THEY don't want to take care of a matter, or take care of the matter in that point in time that you point out to them, doesn't mean anything.


-And just something to point out, if you want people to listen, speak civily. "Pussies" isn't the best description to use, ya know. And flaming Karn won't get you anywhere.

Hiei - July 1, 2006 09:45 PM (GMT)
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-If the intranut doesn't have to be serious for everyone, why does staff have to take it seriously? They're people too, they were members before. They have lives. Most of them are fit for their job and just becasue THEY don't want to take care of a matter, or take care of the matter in that point in time that you point out to them, doesn't mean anything.


-And just something to point out, if you want people to listen, speak civily. "Pussies" isn't the best description to use, ya know. And flaming Karn won't get you anywhere.

The internet SHOULD be serious to them, because they need to manage the forum properly. If they don't want to take it seriously, as I said, they can get demoted.

I'm not trying to speak civily. I'm trying to be blunt.

Puff - July 1, 2006 09:49 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (AL-X @ Jul 1 2006, 05:45 PM)
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-If the intranut doesn't have to be serious for everyone, why does staff have to take it seriously? They're people too, they were members before. They have lives. Most of them are fit for their job and just becasue THEY don't want to take care of a matter, or take care of the matter in that point in time that you point out to them, doesn't mean anything.


-And just something to point out, if you want people to listen, speak civily. "Pussies" isn't the best description to use, ya know. And flaming Karn won't get you anywhere.

The internet SHOULD be serious to them, because they need to manage the forum properly. If they don't want to take it seriously, as I said, they can get demoted.

I'm not trying to speak civily. I'm trying to be blunt.

So, to manage something properly, you need to take it seriously? I managed my History class stuff properly, but I didn't take it seriously. Do a lot of babysitters take their job seriously? I think not. Do clowns take their job seriously? Hell no. Staff shouldn't have to take the INTERNET seriously just to manage a forum, it's ridiculous.

Missy_Roxx_Meh_Soxx - July 1, 2006 09:54 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Alex @ Jul 1 2006, 04:34 PM)
QUOTE (Winter_Beethoven @ Jul 1 2006, 05:25 PM)
Alex, you are wrong on some points. First off, you are not very good as a staffer. We still need some G-Mods, and the ones that are inactive should just go to the RPG unless they suck.
Hiei is right. You're lazy, and you direct flames to people all the time. Namely, me. You and King constantly pester me and piss me off. Staff members are supposed to help with the board, not fuck it up and piss other members off.

I am a bad staffer?

That's why I judged a whole war in one night? That's why I spent various hours contributing towards the reset? That's why I'm going to be judging practically every war? That's why I am easily the most active staffer or member now, during the summer? That's why I'm basically in charge of running the RPG?

And we don't really need G-Mods. =/

Do I flame people? No. Do I act biasedly to immature people? Probably.

You calling me immature? Ha. That's good for a laugh. Let's see if I can find flames you've directed twoards me.
*searches through archives*
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Eh. He's basically asking for it by insulting his fellow members.
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Why wouldn't everybody hate you?
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Attention whore.
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Would you rather I lied to you so you could feel good? =/.

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Thanks for the warning? Just don't turn to the emo-side. D:

Puff - July 1, 2006 09:56 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Winter_Beethoven @ Jul 1 2006, 05:54 PM)

You calling me immature? Ha. That's good for a laugh. Let's see if I can find flames you've directed twoards me.
*searches through archives*
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Eh. He's basically asking for it by insulting his fellow members.
QUOTE
Why wouldn't everybody hate you?
QUOTE
Attention whore.
QUOTE
Would you rather I lied to you so you could feel good? =/.

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Thanks for the warning? Just don't turn to the emo-side. D:

<_< You're not helping your point any by flaming the accussed flamer.

Missy_Roxx_Meh_Soxx - July 1, 2006 09:56 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Puff @ Jul 1 2006, 04:56 PM)
QUOTE (Winter_Beethoven @ Jul 1 2006, 05:54 PM)
QUOTE (Alex @ Jul 1 2006, 04:34 PM)
QUOTE (Winter_Beethoven @ Jul 1 2006, 05:25 PM)
Alex, you are wrong on some points. First off, you are not very good as a staffer. We still need some G-Mods, and the ones that are inactive should just go to the RPG unless they suck.
Hiei is right. You're lazy, and you direct flames to people all the time. Namely, me. You and King constantly pester me and piss me off. Staff members are supposed to help with the board, not fuck it up and piss other members off.

I am a bad staffer?

That's why I judged a whole war in one night? That's why I spent various hours contributing towards the reset? That's why I'm going to be judging practically every war? That's why I am easily the most active staffer or member now, during the summer? That's why I'm basically in charge of running the RPG?

And we don't really need G-Mods. =/

Do I flame people? No. Do I act biasedly to immature people? Probably.

You calling me immature? Ha. That's good for a laugh. Let's see if I can find flames you've directed twoards me.
*searches through archives*
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Eh. He's basically asking for it by insulting his fellow members.
QUOTE
Why wouldn't everybody hate you?
QUOTE
Attention whore.
QUOTE
Would you rather I lied to you so you could feel good? =/.

QUOTE
Thanks for the warning? Just don't turn to the emo-side. D:

<_< You're not helping your point any by flaming the accussed flamer.

Did I ask you?

Alex - July 1, 2006 09:56 PM (GMT)
Alex, you aren't a bad staffer, you certainly don't need ACP though. You're just power hungry. D:

Hm... I don't see your logic, you seem to be contradicting yourself and I don't get what you mean on the matter of my position...

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Alex - Not needed, demote completely. He's lazy, and a bad staffer. Completely off the actual staff, I mean. Forum Team, fine.


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Alex, you aren't a bad staffer, you certainly don't need ACP though.


... and everybody is power hungry.

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I can't go to FEF. I'm banned.

Then stop whining about how much they are better than us. If they are so much better, suck whoever is the current "boss" admin's dick, like how you did to get unbanned the first time.

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As I said, being over staffed gives FEW a sense of security that they have less of a workload, and infact LESS gets done because people say "get someone else to do it."

Hm... I don't see this... :unsure:

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You don't need to be scary and mean, but don't act like a retard. ATLEAST use proper grammar. ._.

I do use proper grammar when I'm serious. I sometimes use proper grammar when I'm not serious. When I'm totally joking around, I don't use proper grammar. I do this so people know I'm kidding and am not trying to be mean or whatever. =/

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The internet SHOULD be serious to them, because they need to manage the forum properly. If they don't want to take it seriously, as I said, they can get demoted.

We are serious when we should be serious. We have fun when the situation allows us to.

Missy_Roxx_Meh_Soxx - July 1, 2006 10:01 PM (GMT)
You ARE power-hungry.

Hiei - July 1, 2006 10:03 PM (GMT)
What I mean is, why give a fireman a gun on his job?

Why give you ACP in your job?

You're good as a forum team person, but you're a shitty admin. You don't need ACP. You're clinging to that position too tightly. Just drop it, you don't need it. .______________________.

Puff - July 1, 2006 10:03 PM (GMT)
QUOTE ((Beethoven))
Did I ask you?

No, but you already lost your fight by flaming him.


QUOTE (Beethoven))
You ARE power-hungry.

He said everyone was.

Hiei - July 1, 2006 10:05 PM (GMT)
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I managed my History class stuff properly, but I didn't take it seriously. Do a lot of babysitters take their job seriously? I think not. Do clowns take their job seriously?

History? THat isn't a forum.

Babysitters SHOULD take their job seriously. When kids die from a careless baby sitter, the baby sitter gets a shitload of grief. That clown statement was ignorant. Seriously. ._.;; Clows are supposed to make people laugh, that doesn't mean they don't take the job itself seriously. Stand up comedians are supposed to make people laugh, but they take their jobs seriously I bet.

Missy_Roxx_Meh_Soxx - July 1, 2006 10:06 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Puff @ Jul 1 2006, 05:03 PM)
QUOTE ((Beethoven))
Did I ask you?

No, but you already lost your fight by flaming him.


QUOTE (Beethoven))
You ARE power-hungry.

He said everyone was.

How did I lose my fight?

Alex - July 1, 2006 10:06 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Winter_Beethoven @ Jul 1 2006, 05:54 PM)
QUOTE (Alex @ Jul 1 2006, 04:34 PM)
QUOTE (Winter_Beethoven @ Jul 1 2006, 05:25 PM)
Alex, you are wrong on some points. First off, you are not very good as a staffer. We still need some G-Mods, and the ones that are inactive should just go to the RPG unless they suck.
Hiei is right. You're lazy, and you direct flames to people all the time. Namely, me. You and King constantly pester me and piss me off. Staff members are supposed to help with the board, not fuck it up and piss other members off.

I am a bad staffer?

That's why I judged a whole war in one night? That's why I spent various hours contributing towards the reset? That's why I'm going to be judging practically every war? That's why I am easily the most active staffer or member now, during the summer? That's why I'm basically in charge of running the RPG?

And we don't really need G-Mods. =/

Do I flame people? No. Do I act biasedly to immature people? Probably.

You calling me immature? Ha. That's good for a laugh. Let's see if I can find flames you've directed twoards me.
*searches through archives*
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Eh. He's basically asking for it by insulting his fellow members.
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Why wouldn't everybody hate you?
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Attention whore.
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Would you rather I lied to you so you could feel good? =/.

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Thanks for the warning? Just don't turn to the emo-side. D:

The first link doesn't have a post of mine on that page...

The second one is the question game... I'm supposed to make a question from the post above me... you didn't give me many options. Would you rather me lie and say something sympathetic to raise your e-self-esteem?

The third one... it's the truth. It's a typical action of an attention whore.

The fourth one is acknowledgement and a unserious comment to lighten the mood.

Puff - July 1, 2006 10:09 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (AL-X @ Jul 1 2006, 06:05 PM)
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I managed my History class stuff properly, but I didn't take it seriously. Do a lot of babysitters take their job seriously? I think not. Do clowns take their job seriously?

History? THat isn't a forum.

Babysitters SHOULD take their job seriously. When kids die from a careless baby sitter, the baby sitter gets a shitload of grief. That clown statement was ignorant. Seriously. ._.;; Clows are supposed to make people laugh, that doesn't mean they don't take the job itself seriously. Stand up comedians are supposed to make people laugh, but they take their jobs seriously I bet.

You're a walking contradiction.. So, okay. Lemme get this straight.. Clowns are supposed to make people laugh and not take their job seriously, but comediens are supposed to make people laugh and take their job seriously?
Clowns and comediens are one in the same. Except clowns wear retarded clothes and a lot of make up.
Robbin Williams is a comedien but he doesn't take his job seriously. Hell, why would he if we went druggie, huh?

Missy_Roxx_Meh_Soxx - July 1, 2006 10:11 PM (GMT)
Emo-Side? What the fucking hell do you think I am? You had NO RIGHT to say that. I am not, nor will I ever be emo. You need to shut up. E-self esteem? What the hell. I don't have a fucking ounce of e-self esteem. All I do is post some words and watch as people react to them like they always do. Attention whore? Yeah. It's not like I'll meet any of you anyway. Who cares? It's RI. RI is for SPAM and RANDOM JUNK. You nad NO need to call me an ATTENTION WHORE. You, my friend, are an ASSHOLE.

Puff - July 1, 2006 10:12 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Winter_Beethoven @ Jul 1 2006, 06:06 PM)
QUOTE (Puff @ Jul 1 2006, 05:03 PM)
QUOTE ((Beethoven))
Did I ask you?

No, but you already lost your fight by flaming him.


QUOTE (Beethoven))
You ARE power-hungry.

He said everyone was.

How did I lose my fight?

If you're going to flame him in the process of accusing him of flaming, then it negates your whole original point. Thus turning your fight into a load of hypocrisy.

There is goes again...

Alex - July 1, 2006 10:14 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (AL-X @ Jul 1 2006, 06:03 PM)
What I mean is, why give a fireman a gun on his job?

Why give you ACP in your job?

You're good as a forum team person, but you're a shitty admin. You don't need ACP. You're clinging to that position too tightly. Just drop it, you don't need it. .______________________.

We need an active Forum Team member to have ACP for anything that may need to be done. I'm basically in charge of running the RPG. Karn approves of any big decisions, but I basically run it. Also, I'm active and experienced. Therefore, it seems pretty essential I have it.

And how am I "shitty admin"? You haven't really given me a reason except I'm lazy. I've already proved that wrong and listed essential jobs I do. Just because I'm not exactly popular doesn't mean I shouldn't be staff. I get shit done. D:

Missy_Roxx_Meh_Soxx - July 1, 2006 10:14 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Puff @ Jul 1 2006, 05:12 PM)
QUOTE (Winter_Beethoven @ Jul 1 2006, 06:06 PM)
QUOTE (Puff @ Jul 1 2006, 05:03 PM)
QUOTE ((Beethoven))
Did I ask you?

No, but you already lost your fight by flaming him.


QUOTE (Beethoven))
You ARE power-hungry.

He said everyone was.

How did I lose my fight?

If you're going to flame him in the process of accusing him of flaming, then it negates your whole original point. Thus turning your fight into a load of hypocrisy.

Puff, you see, I have a very, very short fuse. I take things VERY personally. Which is why I nearly got banned before the reset. And it seems I'll be nearly banned again if people like Alex are around FEW.

Alex - July 1, 2006 10:17 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Winter_Beethoven @ Jul 1 2006, 06:14 PM)
QUOTE (Puff @ Jul 1 2006, 05:12 PM)
QUOTE (Winter_Beethoven @ Jul 1 2006, 06:06 PM)
QUOTE (Puff @ Jul 1 2006, 05:03 PM)
QUOTE ((Beethoven))
Did I ask you?

No, but you already lost your fight by flaming him.


QUOTE (Beethoven))
You ARE power-hungry.

He said everyone was.

How did I lose my fight?

If you're going to flame him in the process of accusing him of flaming, then it negates your whole original point. Thus turning your fight into a load of hypocrisy.

Puff, you see, I have a very, very short fuse. I take things VERY personally. Which is why I nearly got banned before the reset. And it seems I'll be nearly banned again if people like Alex are around FEW.

You do take things too personally. That is why you think you are always being flamed. =/

Puff - July 1, 2006 10:17 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Winter_Beethoven @ Jul 1 2006, 06:14 PM)
QUOTE (Puff @ Jul 1 2006, 05:12 PM)
QUOTE (Winter_Beethoven @ Jul 1 2006, 06:06 PM)
QUOTE (Puff @ Jul 1 2006, 05:03 PM)
QUOTE ((Beethoven))
Did I ask you?

No, but you already lost your fight by flaming him.


QUOTE (Beethoven))
You ARE power-hungry.

He said everyone was.

How did I lose my fight?

If you're going to flame him in the process of accusing him of flaming, then it negates your whole original point. Thus turning your fight into a load of hypocrisy.

Puff, you see, I have a very, very short fuse. I take things VERY personally. Which is why I nearly got banned before the reset. And it seems I'll be nearly banned again if people like Alex are around FEW.

People like Alex? So people that like to have fun and joke around piss you off? Wow... You're one sad case of a human, then. :"(

Missy_Roxx_Meh_Soxx - July 1, 2006 10:20 PM (GMT)
People like Alex are people who poke fun at other people for no damn reason. People like Alex are people who poke fun at the same person until they crack.
People like Alex are people who call other people "one sad case of a human" when they're not.
People like Alex thrive off other's suffering and anger.

Alex - July 1, 2006 10:24 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Winter_Beethoven @ Jul 1 2006, 06:20 PM)
People like Alex are people who poke fun at other people for no damn reason. People like Alex are people who poke fun at the same person until they crack.
People like Alex are people who call other people "one sad case of a human" when they're not.
People like Alex thrive off other's suffering and anger.

Poke fun in a fun and joking way. The "emo-sde" example is a good one. That in no way should have been hurtful; it was a joke with the intention of lightening the mood.
Puff is saying you are a sad case of a human if you dislike having fun.
That is totally false. o_o

Puff - July 1, 2006 10:24 PM (GMT)
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People like Alex are people who poke fun at other people for no damn reason. People like Alex are people who poke fun at the same person until they crack.

Ever heard of a little thing called joking?

QUOTE
People like Alex are people who call other people "one sad case of a human" when they're not.

No, that's a person that's disgusted by a ridiculous behavior.

QUOTE
People like Alex thrive off other's suffering and anger.

:huh: Let's ask this... Alex, are you getting off on Legault's anger and suffering right now?

Missy_Roxx_Meh_Soxx - July 1, 2006 10:28 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Puff @ Jul 1 2006, 05:24 PM)
QUOTE
People like Alex are people who poke fun at other people for no damn reason. People like Alex are people who poke fun at the same person until they crack.

Ever heard of a little thing called joking?

QUOTE
People like Alex are people who call other people "one sad case of a human" when they're not.

No, that's a person that's disgusted by a ridiculous behavior.

QUOTE
People like Alex thrive off other's suffering and anger.

:huh: Let's ask this... Alex, are you getting off on Legault's anger and suffering right now?

1. Yes, I have. And joking is supposed to be funny, not stupid.
2. How about it's an idiot who thinks I have no life?
3. Let's ask him.

Puff - July 1, 2006 10:30 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Winter_Beethoven @ Jul 1 2006, 06:28 PM)
QUOTE (Puff @ Jul 1 2006, 05:24 PM)
QUOTE
People like Alex are people who poke fun at other people for no damn reason. People like Alex are people who poke fun at the same person until they crack.

Ever heard of a little thing called joking?

QUOTE
People like Alex are people who call other people "one sad case of a human" when they're not.

No, that's a person that's disgusted by a ridiculous behavior.

QUOTE
People like Alex thrive off other's suffering and anger.

:huh: Let's ask this... Alex, are you getting off on Legault's anger and suffering right now?

1. Yes, I have. And joking is supposed to be funny, not stupid.
2. How about it's an idiot who thinks I have no life?
3. Let's ask him.

1. Depending upon your sense of humor; I, personally, think Alex is one of the funniest people I've met.
2. You're flaming again. Or maybe it's just flamebait, oh well... Your description is ME! Good job! <_< Then again.. Alex was right with what he said.
3. *Awaits*

Alex - July 1, 2006 10:36 PM (GMT)
[joking]
Addressing number three, I am seriously turned on.
[/joking]

Actually I'm not.

[joking]
Is there a way to make a Tag for joking as shown in this post? :S. I can accommodate for those who can't distinguish between a joke and seriousness. :o
[/joking]

Missy_Roxx_Meh_Soxx - July 1, 2006 10:37 PM (GMT)
<_<

Puff - July 1, 2006 10:42 PM (GMT)
user posted image Alex.


The point is, Legault.. user posted imageuser posted image.. Loosen up. Don't be so uptight with jokes that you think "stupid." -_-

Missy_Roxx_Meh_Soxx - July 1, 2006 10:44 PM (GMT)
<_< <_<

Alex - July 1, 2006 10:44 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Puff @ Jul 1 2006, 06:42 PM)
user posted image Alex.


The point is, Legault.. user posted imageuser posted image.. Loosen up. Don't be so uptight with jokes that you think "stupid." -_-

I know. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Kojiro - July 1, 2006 10:50 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Winter_Beethoven @ Jul 1 2006, 06:44 PM)
<_< <_<

Stop spamming.

grondring - July 1, 2006 11:29 PM (GMT)
Now, now, let's settle down here. We're never going to make any progress if all we do is bicker with each other all the time, hm?

Hiei, thank you for your suggestions and your good intentions. No matter how competent they may be, though, to achieve them it would be wiser to be civil, and not blunt. Case in point: you've been blunt in this topic, and this topic has degenerated into a dispute over who's right, who's wrong, who's biased, who's incompetent, who's a fuckhead, who's an attention whore, and so on - not exactly productive.

You mentioned that Karn cares too much about what people think. People's opinions are a tricky issue. Much as we all wish we could be Clint Eastwood, rugged and independent, that's seldom the reality in life and that's seldom the reality when you're running a forum. What's the point of a forum? To be honest, we're in the entertainment business. We entertain people with games, RPG's, socialization, and so forth. And in the entertainment business, people's opinions matter, because unhappy people are unentertained people.

That said, sometimes it's necessary to make unpopular decisions, but general opinion is not to be thrown aside lightly.

As for your other issues...

1. The staff is, in fact, in the middle of reorganizing its structure and has been for about two weeks now. They're taking their sweet time about it, sure, but they're getting to it, and hopefully some of the points you've brought up will be incorporated.

Honestly, though, there really isn't very much going on in the ACP nowadays. There are few, if any, things that need changing using the ACP. All we need admins for is to make sure that when something does need changing, it won't take long to find someone to change it. As for the global moderators, the reason there are so many of them is that most (five of the seven, I think) are actually in the group Forum Team Associates, which for some reason has global moderator powers. Frankly, most of our work consists of discussing, brainstorming, writing, posting updates, and so on. While we need to see the Production forum, we don't need any powers.

Concerning how seriously staff should take their job, the answer should be exactly as seriously as is necessary to get the job done. Of course, there's a problem in that in many cases people's jobs are really not very well defined. Some people can prance around making bad jokes and grinning but still be exceedingly competent, while others need to devote all their effort just to do a passable job. The staff doesn't necessarily all have to be stiff, by-the-book types to get their job done; in fact, I think that's what distinguishes FEW from many other forums in that our staff can be casual about their work.

That doesn't mean we should act like idiots, though. Which of course comes in degrees. Am I an idiot for making bad jokes and grinning a lot? Maybe. What matters is that the staff, no matter how easygoing they might be, both gets the job done and maintains at least some dignity. (Otherwise who's going to listen to them?)

2. I disagree. The purpose of Random Insanity is for people to act silly and spammy. It's sort of a place for people to release their inner buffoon. :P I've seen similar places on other forums. One particularly memorable one from a long time ago had a subforum specifically designed for cursing. Their profanity rules were considerably stricter than ours, but they had a special subforum where you could go and scream your lungs out.

For my opinions on how staff should act in Random Insanity, see the last paragraph of the last issue. (Beginning with "that doesn't mean we should act like idiots, though.")

3. Again, I disagree. Why not have the skin changer? It's not doing any harm. Of all your points, this is the only one I totally disagree with. I use Avid Blue, but that doesn't mean that I believe everyone else should too. If someone prefers another skin, then why not give them the choice to use it?

4. I discussed popular opinion already. Third and fourth paragraphs. Beginning with "You mentioned that Karn cares too much about what people think."

Concerning people leaving, as I said, as a forum, our job is to entertain people. People leaving are people unentertained. A genius and an imbecile both give us the same number of page hits. The staff's job is not to judge people's character.

I personally think the "bias" in warnings is due to a lack of solid guidelines. Also, we don't have enough Global Moderators. (I'm not talking about global moderators, which is anybody with universal moderator powers. I'm talking about people with the specific group "Global Moderators" and the specific job of globally moderating.) I actually proposed putting up a set of strict guidelines on how to enforce the rules, but I think it got shot down.

Finally: blunt is one thing, but calling the root admin a "fucking twit" is another. If you want you and your suggestions to be treated civilly, then you should treat people civilly. It's simply expedient; if people don't like you, they won't listen to you. :P It's not right, but it's how the world works.




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