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Puff - November 2, 2006 09:39 PM (GMT)
Birth Order Characteristics

Psychological birth order is more important than chronological birth order!

THE ONLY CHILD: Develops these characteristics from having to cope with playing alone and or having to fend off adult intrusions
1. Characteristics Bad Feeling: Frustration
2. Typical Stragedy For Survival: Imaginary items, companions.
.....Speeds: Very fast or very slow
3. Justice: Everyone should be treated equally
4. T-Shirt Reads: "Leave me ALONE, I'd rather do it MYSELF"
5. Nature Humor: Sarcasm
6. Child Within: Smothered
7. Procrastination: Put off big task; complete little jobs and tasks well
8. Strengths: Organizing and stability
9. Parenting: Allow children time and space; too much at times
10. Marriage: Tries to meet partner's expectations

THE FIRST BORN: Only child until second takes away mom's/dad's attention. Often feels that there is no love for them.
1. Characteristics Bad Feeling: Guilt; want to get rid of child 2
2. Typical Stragedy For Survival: Placating and covering up
3. Justice: People should get what they deserve
4. T-Shirt Reads: "I don't know, what do you think?"
5. Nature Humor: Teasing
6. Child Within: Abandoned
7. Procrastination: Dreams instead of doing/working
8. Strengths: Goal setting, compramise, leadership
9. Parenting: Directs children towards goals
10. Marriage: Typical goes along with that their partner wants, not to "rock the boar" unless partner wants, go against their fundamental beliefs/principles

SECOND BORN: Loses attention as first born aggresively takes it away. Leaving second child as if they cannot do anything well enough to merit attention.
1. Characteristics Bad Feeling: Inadequecy
2. Typical Stragedy For Survival: Perfectionism, logic, reason
3. Justice: Necessity of life
4. T-Shirt Reads: "That won't work, it's not good enough"
5. Nature Humor: Dry, sometimes cutting
6. Child Within: Neglected
7. Procrastination: Puts tasks off usually till they can be done perfectly
8. Strengths: Self discipline, honesty, determination
9. Parenting: Insists on obedience to rules
10. Marriage: Typically puts spouse and family before/ahead of self

THIRD BORN: Feels vulnerable. People can get to them.
1. Characteristics Bad Feeling: Vulnerability
2. Typical Stragedy For Survival: Being strong, attacking
3. Justice: There is no justice, victims must be rescued
4. T-Shirt Reads: "No problem, it doesn't bother me any more"
5. Nature Humor: Put downs
6. Child Within: Wounded; hurt
7. Procrastination: Puts off tasks to persue more interesting things
8. Strengths: Compassion, practical, creative
9. Parenting: Protective, nurturing, may over do; over protect
10. Marriage: Whants to p;ease spouse and children

FOURTH BORN: Third tries to pass on vulnerability; fourth may not mature enough to play with older children; leaving 4th feeling immature/unwanted
1. Characteristics Bad Feeling: Anger; upset
2. Typical Stragedy For Survival: Not listening to self; work hard
3. Justice: There is no justice, you can only get even
4. T-Shirt Reads: "Life isn't easy, you have to try harder"
5. Nature Humor: Insults
6. Child Within: Isolated/Alone
7. Procrastination: Puts things off to think about possible romifications
8. Strengths: Thinking, understanding, hard worker
9. Parenting: A buddy to their children
10. Marriage: Good provider












EDIT: This is old (I was going through my old psych notes today), so if I already posted this somewhere, I'm sorry.

sara13987 - November 2, 2006 09:54 PM (GMT)
Seriously? I had an essay just the other day on this for English, and I meant to type it out. It's almost completely opposite of this, and everyone I showed it to agreed with it. Here:

"The Perfectionist is the oldest child. Miss Perfection has been the center of attention since the moment of conception. The parents just know that this child would be the smartest, most compassionate, most beautiful child ever born on the face of the earth. The parents then pour all of their energies into making sure this is true. The child then decides that this is what life is like. The oldest child believes that their hair always has to be perfect with a hair bow that is the exact shade of their carefully chosen ensemble. Their schoolwork reflects this also. They will be at the top of their class in everything from reading to hopscotch. They will also be involved in everything imaginable -- drama, girl scouts, cheerleading, youth group, yearbook, honor societies, and the list goes on and on. These are the children you find in gifted classes and are bored if they don't get challenging enough homework. on top of everything else, things have to be perfect the first time. In my oldest daughter, Megan's mind, a rough draft of a paper means that the handwriting is messy. These children are also natural born leaders. Bossing their siblings around just comes naturally. This can benefit them when they become CEO's, politicans, or dictators."

I'll write the rest later, gotta go. :P

Puff - November 2, 2006 10:32 PM (GMT)
Just a note... These psychology notes come from a real psychologist (one of my favourite teachers, as well).


Among these and other things, "perfection" comes more-of from potty training.. (more on this later, maybe)..

Kipdog - November 2, 2006 10:50 PM (GMT)
I moreso have characteristics from the only child, yet, I have a brother who is younger than me. Damn Im awesome.

Valter - November 3, 2006 12:19 AM (GMT)
THE FIRST BORN: Only child until second takes away mom's/dad's attention. Often feels that there is no love for them.
1. Characteristics Bad Feeling: Guilt; want to get rid of child 2
2. Typical Stragedy For Survival: Placating and covering up
3. Justice: People should get what they deserve
4. T-Shirt Reads: "I don't know, what do you think?"
5. Nature Humor: Teasing
6. Child Within: Abandoned
7. Procrastination: Dreams instead of doing/working
8. Strengths: Goal setting, compramise, leadership
9. Parenting: Directs children towards goals
10. Marriage: Typical goes along with that their partner wants, not to "rock the boar" unless partner wants, go against their fundamental beliefs/principles

WRONG!! WRONGWRONGWRONG!!!! I'm nothing like that at all.

Puff - November 3, 2006 12:31 AM (GMT)
Both of these are true for me (Yes, I'm an only child, but I'm also a third born)..



THE ONLY CHILD: Develops these characteristics from having to cope with playing alone and or having to fend off adult intrusions
1. Characteristics Bad Feeling: Frustration
2. Typical Stragedy For Survival: Imaginary items, companions.
.....Speeds: Very fast or very slow
3. Justice: Everyone should be treated equally
4. T-Shirt Reads: "Leave me ALONE, I'd rather do it MYSELF"
5. Nature Humor: Sarcasm
6. Child Within: Smothered
7. Procrastination: Put off big task; complete little jobs and tasks well
8. Strengths: Organizing and stability
9. Parenting: Allow children time and space; too much at times
10. Marriage: Tries to meet partner's expectations




THIRD BORN: Feels vulnerable. People can get to them.
1. Characteristics Bad Feeling: Vulnerability
2. Typical Stragedy For Survival: Being strong, attacking
3. Justice: There is no justice, victims must be rescued
4. T-Shirt Reads: "No problem, it doesn't bother me any more"
5. Nature Humor: Put downs
6. Child Within: Wounded; hurt
7. Procrastination: Puts off tasks to persue more interesting things
8. Strengths: Compassion, practical, creative
9. Parenting: Protective, nurturing, may over do; over protect
10. Marriage: Whants to p;ease spouse and children


I Have a Sandwich - November 3, 2006 12:39 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Valter @ Nov 2 2006, 07:19 PM)
THE FIRST BORN: Only child until second takes away mom's/dad's attention. Often feels that there is no love for them.
1. Characteristics Bad Feeling: Guilt; want to get rid of child 2
2. Typical Stragedy For Survival: Placating and covering up
3. Justice: People should get what they deserve
4. T-Shirt Reads: "I don't know, what do you think?"
5. Nature Humor: Teasing
6. Child Within: Abandoned
-7. Procrastination: Dreams instead of doing/working
-8. Strengths: Goal setting, compramise, leadership
9. Parenting: Directs children towards goals
10. Marriage: Typical goes along with that their partner wants, not to "rock the boar" unless partner wants, go against their fundamental beliefs/principles

WRONG!! WRONGWRONGWRONG!!!! I'm nothing like that at all.

Agree'd. I put hypens next to the two the applied to me. Damn shrinks trying to tell me who I am.

sara13987 - November 3, 2006 01:03 AM (GMT)
Yeah, sorry about that. Here's the rest:

"The middle child is the Tornado. The middle child will gladly expound on why life is not fair. They will do this in a loud and very emotional way. No matter their age, they think they should be able to do everything their older and younger siblings do. And if they can't, "It's not fair!" is followed by an endless tirade about how they are not loved and how they are going to run away and find people who have no children so they can be an only child. Ten minutes later this same madman will will be asking you to listen to a song they wrote about how much they love their siblings or calling you to come see the cute new thing their younger sibling is doing. This child can be very compassionate and loving but life is so unfair to them that they forget to show it sometimes. This child constantly hears, "Can't you be more like your older sister?" This constantly inflames the child to do even bigger and better thinkgs than their older sibling. This makes all of life a competition for this child. They are constantly trying for better grades, bigger trophies, faster times, and higher jumps. If they don't better their sibling they go into deep depression. If they can do something better than their sibling, they strut around and brag for weeks. And they never let their older sibling forget. Life with the Tornado is never boring! In fact, if you ever hear that Hurricane Maddie is heading for Texas, EVACUATE!!! It won't be a hurricane but my middle daughter in a major meltdown!

Then there's the baby, the Princess. The youngest believes that life revolves around them. When they are very young they have no motivation to learn to do anything on their own, including crawling, walking or talking. Their older siblings cater to their every need. As the Princess gets older she expects this behavior to continue much to the annoyance of their older siblings and the older siblings can't figure out how that sweet little baby became such a spoiled brat. Of course, the parents don't help this situation. This is the "baby" of the family and everybody needs to watch out for them. Maybe this is why our three year old has taken to wearing a crown around the house and demanding to be referred to as "Princess Katie." "

What do you think?

Lades - November 3, 2006 02:06 PM (GMT)
The Lades and The First child Are very much in common. Perhaps becuase I am the first child? All lades notes are bolded. ^_^

THE FIRST BORN: Only child until second takes away mom's/dad's attention. Often feels that there is no love for them.
1. Characteristics Bad Feeling: Guilt; want to get rid of child 2 & 3
2. Typical Stragedy For Survival: Placating and covering up
3. Justice: People should get what they deserve
4. T-Shirt Reads: "I don't know, what do you think?" -Sarcastically, of course
5. Nature Humor: Teasing, Sarcasm
6. Child Within: Abandoned
7. Procrastination: Dreams instead of doing/working
8. Strengths: Goal setting, compramise, leadership
9. Parenting: Directs children towards goals
10. Marriage: Typically goes along with that their partner wants, not to "rock the boat" unless partner wants, go against their fundamental beliefs/principles.


I'm obviously first born.






Abbe Faria - November 3, 2006 07:33 PM (GMT)
I don't pretend to major in psychology, but these hardly describe my little brother and I

Me (firstborn):
***1. Characteristics Bad Feeling: Hopeless
***2. Typical Stragedy For Survival: Work harder, push yourself to the limit
3. Justice: People should get what they deserve
***4. T-Shirt Reads: "Could be better"
***5. Nature Humor: Sarcasm
6. Child Within: Abandoned
***7. Procrastination: Either fantastic or embarrasing work
***8. Strengths: Determination and helpfulness
9. Parenting: Directs children towards goals
10. Marriage: (can't comment)

Little Brother
***1. Characteristics Bad Feeling: Frustration
***2. Typical Stragedy For Survival: Cover weak skills with stong ones
3. Justice: Necessity of life
***4. T-Shirt Reads: "Whats your problem?"
***5. Nature Humor: Anything for a laugh
6. Child Within: (can't comment)
***7. Procrastination: If I can do it tomorrow, thats when I'll do it
***8. Strengths: Adaptation, determination
9. Parenting: Insists on obedience to rules
10. Marriage: (can't comment)

(***=changed)

KuraiKitsune - November 3, 2006 11:56 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Puff @ Nov 2 2006, 02:39 PM)
SECOND BORN: Loses attention as first born aggresively takes it away. Leaving second child as if they cannot do anything well enough to merit attention.
--1. Characteristics Bad Feeling: Inadequecy
--2. Typical Stragedy For Survival: Perfectionism, logic, reason
3. Justice: Necessity of life
--4. T-Shirt Reads: "That won't work, it's not good enough"
--5. Nature Humor: Dry, sometimes cutting
-6. Child Within: Neglected
------7. Procrastination: Puts tasks off usually till they can be done perfectly
8. Strengths: Self discipline, honesty, determination
9. Parenting: Insists on obedience to rules
10. Marriage: Typically puts spouse and family before/ahead of self

Second born, middle child. The things with --'s describe things I have or do. The more dashes, the more it applies. (See 'procrastination'. xD)

Did you know that middle children are most likely to not succeed? If in a family of three children, the oldest child gets several years to themselves before the middle child is born, while the youngest gets most of the attention to themselves after they're born. To put it bluntly...

Oldest child/Only child: 100% attention.

Oldest child w/second kid: 50% attention divided among them.

When the last kid comes along: 10-25% attention to oldest and middle, 50-65% attention to youngest child.

Do the math. :P Inadequacy and a lack of 'alone time' kinda screw us middle kids over. o.o

SpiralStatic - November 4, 2006 12:40 AM (GMT)
You're not missing much... attention isn't always a good thing. Take it from me, I'm the baby. Second born, but still the baby... >>

The Entertainer - November 4, 2006 03:49 AM (GMT)
Eh... bullshit imo. Doesn't a lot of this just depend on the parents being complete drones when it comes to taking care of their kid?

Alex - November 5, 2006 04:18 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (KuraiKitsune @ Nov 3 2006, 07:56 PM)
QUOTE (Puff @ Nov 2 2006, 02:39 PM)
SECOND BORN: Loses attention as first born aggresively takes it away. Leaving second child as if they cannot do anything well enough to merit attention.
--1. Characteristics Bad Feeling: Inadequecy
--2. Typical Stragedy For Survival: Perfectionism, logic, reason
3. Justice: Necessity of life
--4. T-Shirt Reads: "That won't work, it's not good enough"
--5. Nature Humor: Dry, sometimes cutting
-6. Child Within: Neglected
------7. Procrastination: Puts tasks off usually till they can be done perfectly
8. Strengths: Self discipline, honesty, determination
9. Parenting: Insists on obedience to rules
10. Marriage: Typically puts spouse and family before/ahead of self

Second born, middle child. The things with --'s describe things I have or do. The more dashes, the more it applies. (See 'procrastination'. xD)

Did you know that middle children are most likely to not succeed? If in a family of three children, the oldest child gets several years to themselves before the middle child is born, while the youngest gets most of the attention to themselves after they're born. To put it bluntly...

Oldest child/Only child: 100% attention.

Oldest child w/second kid: 50% attention divided among them.

When the last kid comes along: 10-25% attention to oldest and middle, 50-65% attention to youngest child.

Do the math. :P Inadequacy and a lack of 'alone time' kinda screw us middle kids over. o.o

I know; being a middle child sucks. D:

Juan - November 10, 2006 03:33 PM (GMT)
SECOND BORN: Loses attention as first born aggresively takes it away. Leaving second child as if they cannot do anything well enough to merit attention.
1. Characteristics Bad Feeling: Inadequecy
2. Typical Stragedy For Survival: Perfectionism, logic, reason
3. Justice: Necessity of life <_<
4. T-Shirt Reads: "That won't work, it's not good enough"
5. Nature Humor: Dry, sometimes cutting
6. Child Within: Neglected <_<
7. Procrastination: Puts tasks off usually till they can be done perfectly
8. Strengths: Self discipline, honesty, determination
9. Parenting: Insists on obedience to rules
10. Marriage: Typically puts spouse and family before/ahead of self

.... Some is true, most is wrong




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