Title: America
Nate - December 10, 2006 03:33 AM (GMT)
I've been looking at the American government (and california.) I've noticed alot of the scientist who work for the Government are being silenced in state reports. Saying that global warming is just a theory. I almost exploded at this. But then California's govenor saying he didn't take money from educational purposes. That didn't take the cake though. Then someone call the US president good. That's what got me.
He cares more about Iraq than US. I could care less about Iraq if I were him. When they had Osama (or Saddam... can't remember who's who) they had a better life. I admit he needed to leave. But when he left and no one could take his place we killed Iraq. The Shiattes and (I can't remember the others at the time...) other religious group are at war because of the US. We hurt them more than they hurt us. Then Bush calls his reasons just because we got bombed. I'm really not happy with him right now.
Anyways what the question is, what do you think about the US government... and how would it be fixable from what were in now (that's realistic.)
I Have a Sandwich - December 10, 2006 05:31 AM (GMT)
My belief? Global warming is happening, but we can't be responsible. A single volcanicn eruption spews more ozone deadly shit in the air then all the factories around the world. Besides, global warming is only known from what, 90 years of documents? We don;t have nearly enough info to make ANY kind of an opinion. It's like playing Pictionary and saying it's a dog with one line down.
If the people didn't want the Govenator as governor again, then they should have gotten off their asses and voted. As one of my teachers says on election day 6% of the bastards vote, but 100% will complain the next day.
"When they had Osama (or Saddam... can't remember who's who) they had a better life." I'm sorry, but are you high? That's all that's needed to be said in response to that.
"'The Shiattes and (I can't remember the others at the time...) other religious group are at war because of the US" Wrong again buddy. They've been at war for hundreds of years. It's just a single area of them that's recently begun to fight. Quite frankly, it is and will be impossible to make any situation in the middle east worse. The people over there have been killing each other for centuries, they just say it's our fault because we tried to do somethin. If you have something, you won't fight someone because they go near it if they leave it be. It's when they start to threaten your hold that you fight them. The fact that they've been attacking more groups and starting more confilcts is because we're getting something accomplished.
I like the US government as we know it as is. I think foreign handling is fine, and I think that Rumsfeld should have stayed. Any changes I could reccomend would be on the handling of things such as the Roswell and Phildelphia Experiment.
But more importantly, you really need to rethink you're whining if you confuse Saddam and Osama.
Phoenix - December 10, 2006 04:02 PM (GMT)
Wow. I won't say any more to risk flaming...
Shiites and Sunnis could not fight in Iraq under Saddam because he wouldn't allow it. I am not saying that he was a good little dictator, but there you have it.... Also, Rumsfeld did say that he KNEW that WMD were near "Baghdad, Tikrit, and [around] that area..." on "This Week" a long time ago, and that turned out to be bullshit...
I Have a Sandwich - December 10, 2006 07:31 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Phoenix @ Dec 10 2006, 11:02 AM) |
Wow. I won't say any more to risk flaming... Shiites and Sunnis could not fight in Iraq under Saddam because he wouldn't allow it. I am not saying that he was a good little dictator, but there you have it.... Also, Rumsfeld did say that he KNEW that WMD were near "Baghdad, Tikrit, and [around] that area..." on "This Week" a long time ago, and that turned out to be bullshit... |
Well, then, let's just start killing the people that tried to fight like Saddaam did. I think it'll go over well!
Lades - December 10, 2006 09:19 PM (GMT)
Good idea. You want the AK, or the Thompson? I prefer the Colt 44.
Our government? I like it. We're at war...errr, policing the Middle East right now, and at least we got Saddam. I prefer hearing that we're doing something than nothing. Yes, there's shit. But we knew that,and we supported it beforehand. Americans have a short attention span as a whole, and once the situation was more than a few months old, they grew tired of it. Moving on, we have a relatively healthy economy, and that's kickasstic.
You know my beef with our govenment? The FCC got Stern off public radio. Damnit. That's my real beef. And Speed limits. And illegal aliens. Other than that, I like this damn country. I do have issues with so many people that hate it though... <_<
Kaden - December 10, 2006 09:58 PM (GMT)
You know how during the election, some veterans from the current war ran Anti-War campiegns. This made everyone believe that veterans thought we were doing the wrong thing in Iraq. To tell you the truth, that's probably .01% of the soldiers that come back. My dad has been to Iraq, Afganistan, and he's still for the war. Most soldiers that come back know what's actually happening over there, unlike most US citizens. I mean, on average, according to one thing I read, there is no difference in between the number of Iraqi civilians that have died since we went in, and the number that would have died if we hadn't gone in.
Don't be decieved about the war, the media releases very little stories about success, which is why you don't trust the media. Bush is better than most people give him credit for.
Puff - December 10, 2006 10:37 PM (GMT)
America. America. Land of bravery, of strength,... of freedom. Land of abaster fields and majestic rolling hills. United we stand under God and Ol' Glory. United are we, with wealth and policy. With the reassurance that Big Brother will protect us... in sleep, in work, in play. The wealthy roam America's lands with a great air; welcoming. Land of the free and home to the brave. She welcomes anyone, but banishes the poor to die at the mercy of slum lords. She's been corrupt with the hypocrisy of Government and Religion. She'll never be saved, Big Brother won't let it happen...
*Cough* I pulled that out of my ass for a, er, um, spiffy introduction to what I think about America's government.
Hmmm. The Constitution has just over - what was it? - Four thousand words or so? Not very many, if you ask me. And, of course you all know how the preamble goes: "We, the people of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
And there's only four things goin' on in that: First, unification clause. Second, reasons for making the Constitution. Third, goals. Fourth, establish government. In that very order.
7 Articles and 27 Amendments make up the very miniature novel we refer to as the Constitution; we all know that. Articles ranging from Congress and the House of Representatives, to Senate. The the whole speil on the three branches of Government. To Duties of States (Article 4, section 2), and National Supremacy (Article 6). And of course the states mingle with the court cases, such as: Roe VS Wade, Buckley VS Valeo, Miranda VS Arizona, [Whoever it was] VS Board of Education, so on and so forth.
Religion and Government are at eachother's throats, so America is split up, obviously. Republicans don't have as high of a voter turn out as they should because most, if not all, of the religious people are republican (If I remember correctly). Then, Democrats don't have a high voter turn out, because Democrats don't care; they're lazy, per se.
American isn't equal, and never will be. Whoever takes honors/AP classes should know this; if we were equal, we'd be with the regulars and they'd be holding us back from our potential. We don't want to be equal because then we wouldn't be learning as much as we possibley could. Women still aren't equal in society. To make the same amount of money that males do in the business world, women would have to work overtime every day of the year, plus four more months (or something like that.)
Also, we're not equal in that there's two political parties (Democrat and Republican) and then multiple third parties (Green party, Reform party, Independent... etc..). Each party has their pros and cons, and each party has different veiws, thus we're all split up. Republicans are for order first, then freedom, then equality. Democrats are the complete opposite, they go: equality, freedom, order. ... There can be one without the other, but would you be willing to sacrifice, say, order for freedom? Or either of those for equality? I sure as heck wouldn't.
And the wealthy really do banish the poor, if not then they wouldn't be on the streets, freezing or hungary, etc..
Anyway, about the government. I hate it, and I hate this country. They spill billions of tax payer money over in other countries, when there's plenty to fix up around the US. Schools and healthcare facilities and the like.
Bush only got elected so that he could "finish up" what Daddy Bush started. But like all presidents, he has his good and bad points. His speech writers are imbeciles, and Bush doesn't know how to read from a prompter and we all get a kick out of it when he says something stupid.
It's understood that in 2001 our troops HAD to go to the Middle East. If not, then we'd look like a bunch of panzies who are afraid of terrorists; if that was the case then we'd just have more and more terrorist attacks. Have we since 2001? Not to my knowledge, no.
Our troops don't need to stay over there now, this is ridiculous. The only reason I think we're still over there is to push Democracy and Christianity onto the Middle Eastern people, an make sure they keep it that way. Because we're "elite" and everyone else should do as we do. That's bullshit, let other countries rule themselves how they want. If they destroy themselves, that's their problem; but there is a chance that they could become better than us. Something wrong with that? No.
Kaden - December 11, 2006 01:29 AM (GMT)
Push democracy? Yes. Push christianity, not at all. How many muslims do you think have been turned away from thier religion since we sent troops into Iraq? I'd say little to none. If anything we have strengthened Islam, and increased the pride that you can find in the average middle eastern civilian. I'm not saying we should be in Iraq, but I am saying that we definiatlly shouldn't have at least some involvement. I mean, you've seen it, they're technically in a civil war, and that would've eventually happened whether our soldiers went in or not, it's what happens when a dictator is in power. Our involvment in Iraq = Not really needed anymore, but that doesn't mean that no one is benifiting.
A thought just occured to me. Friday in school, we had a veteran of WWII, Korea, and Vietnam come talk to us. His father had fought in WWI, and he went to WWII when he was 13. This guy was a Leutinant Colonel in the Army, and he said that the United States has never gone to war without a legit reason. He said we've never entered a war expecting profit, which is true, all but the revolution. (Ben Franklin, you greedy bastard.) If you really look at past wars, that's true.
Esgalglinion - December 13, 2006 06:15 PM (GMT)
Grarr, my whole post got deleted.
I'll sum up what I said with a few words.
I don't like the Bush regime, so fortunately, he doesn't have nearly enough power anymore.