This is just to see what the member's view on the staff is.

Also, feel free to suggest people you think would make a good addition to the staff and why. No immediate action will be taken, but we will look into the replies to this topic.

Administrators
'Ivan- Could be more active, not needed but not doing a bad job.
Kayoh - I personally think he should be demoted because he doesn't do squat
Lionheart - A little timid to take action on situations, but I think he's doing an overall good job
strikeraider827 - Could post a bit more, but doing a good job

Global Moderators
AL-X - should be made king of the internet
KuraiKitsune - Doesn't do anything, should be demoted
ReydeMagival20635 - could post more, but doing a good job overall

Advisors:
Alex <3
Karn <3
Kipdog is he still here?

I personally think Kaden should be premoted, although many people disagree. I think he's a great member, gives awesome suggestions, and would make a great addition to the staff.

Admins
-Strike
-Ultima
-'Ivan

Mods (Having more admins than mods is stupid.)
-Pondy
-Kurai
-Reyde
-Hiei

Advisors
Karn
Alex
Maybe some others, too lazy to think about it.

Kaden for staff definately.

Boot Kipdog since I haven't seen him post in a while.

The staff as a whole does not seem to be doing much. =/

Post reasons too, please.

The hell. Did they make you mod again?

This goes on all the admins then. I really could care less if Hiei's a mod. But the fact that you have repeated given and taken power from Hiei shows such fucking indesciveness that I think all of you should be taken down. Either make him mod or don't, simple enough.

It's a matter of me having time or not, I could still be an admin but unlike some staffers, when I don't have time for the forum I quit my forum job until I have time.

Anyways, this isn't the point of the topic.

There're my reasons.

Uh, yeah it is. It's our "General View On The Staff."

Admins = staff + ((I think= my thoughts) = my view.)= Point of topic.

Edit by Hiei: I know you were probably posting while I was updating, but read the update.

Edit: I'm letting this slide, but this is the last post. Although it WAS slightly humerous.

Administrators
'Ivan- Needs to be on more often, or at least make his presence more clear
Kayoh- ^
Lionheart- Meh
strikeraider827- Does a good enough job it would seem

Global Moderators
AL-X- Really needs to either take power or abandon it. The constant on off seems to create almost a bipolar disorder. Asshole when without power, goodie-two shoes when with it. I couldn't care either way though.
KuraiKitsune- Hate to say it, but isn't enough to need this spot. If she were more ative I wouldn't have any problem.
ReydeMagival20635- Meh

Advisors: (The hell do they even do?)
Alex- Meh
Karn- I think he should have some power again. Seemed to do a good job when he had it, but life came and what not
Kipdog- Meh

You know? Let me put in my two cents. Generally I don't like jumping into topics like this, but...

1. Look. Editing people's posts is a power we only use when someone posts something against the Terms of Service, or, in the rare case, when private information is posted. (Example: Puff once posted Sara's real name. This made her uncomfortable, but Puff wasn't online, so I edited out her name and put 'Sara' in its place.) Doing so to other people's posts otherwise is an abuse of power, in my eyes.

2. I'm fairly sure that posting about only one staff member doesn't warrant a warning. What harm would be done with that?

3. Warn me if you want, but, quite frankly, I'm tired of these attacks on the staff. Take me off of G-Mod position you want; I know I'm not as active as I should be. Once college apps are done, I'll be back in action. The last time I put FEW before my life, my GPA dropped drastically. I'm just making sure I can make a life for myself, and sacrificing a few weeks of otherwise free time to do so. Is that so wrong?

4. Wasn't it you who said that "this forum isn't a democracy"? I'm sorry, but I'd like to ask what point you're making with this topic... and in the Update section, no less. It should be in Fire Emblem Wars chat, if anything.

You know, Kurai, you are entirely correct. This topic does indeed belong in FEW Chat. As a matter of fact, let me move it now.

Re-Edit by me: I've you've got something to say, POST IT. That's what the add reply/fast reply button's for. Don't have to go into my posts.

Administrators
'Ivan- Good admin though he isn't on that much he gets the job done
Kayoh - Not really active , I haven't seen anything from him. He should be demoted down to an advisor at best
Lionheart - Good admin, he is active but he could make his presence known by posting a little more
strikeraider827 - Good admin, He is active and he does his job

Global Moderators
AL-X - A G-Mod with a 100% warn level..... Not the best example, also has been banned multiple times and yet he has power... Strange. A bit of a hypocrite when it comes down to the truth. Not liked among the newer members either, Besides since he is an older member he can get away with anything without being permanatley banned. Strip him of all powers, with the new powers he will probably leave flame bait (Much like this topic....) and when people flame him he will warn them and people will ignore the fact that he posted flamebait
KuraiKitsune - I don't see her on much, I'd say make her an advisor not a G-Mod
ReydeMagival20635 - Good G-Mod, He is active and he does his job

Advisors:
Alex - He has opnions and ideas he should be kept around
Karn - Karn is active and he has helped the forum a lot, Keep him
Kipdog - I see he is active some what but still not enough I say demote bact to a veteran.


Well those are my views, a little baised maybe but most the opnions that have been posted and will be posted will/ are baised as well.

Ahem, what purpose does this topic serve? To see if members think the same about promotions and demotions, so that we could see such opinions through? Idiotic. I mean, these decisions are for the staff to make, not the general members of the board. We've tested using democracy before, and where did that get us? An all out flame war, that's what.

And stop complaining about inactivity; if that's a problem, send a PM to the staff member in question, and if the person does not answer within a specific time, demote.

And please spell promotions right. Premotions look too much like premonitions.

Huh...

Ivan - Strict enough to stay admin.; does a good job with the admin powers.
Reyde - Can keep people in line, respectable, and may do some good on FEW.
Karn - Again, if he reigned, then.. nevermind.

Strike - He works well with a bit of authority.
Kayoh - Seems to know what he's doing.
Puff - Loves the forum, would be a good candidate. Is normally good on the forums... ... Is totally kidding about the position.

Advisors, again, I don't see what we need them for, but if "Advisors" are somehow useful then those two are my candidates. Kaden has good suggestions and Luis is rational enough.

EDIT: I might change or add something.. I'm still pondering.

I disagree with one aspect; because FEW is fairly small, member input can always be considered on the same level of importance - simply in terms of its logistics, content, etc - on the same level as the mods, admins, etc. A chain of command makes sense anywhere, but whenever possible input on decisions should be accepted from everyone.

In larger 'things' input can't be given or considered on the same level. Take the USA - the government would probably be crippled if it tried to go through and organize ideas from 1 paragraph from every American in the country on what they think/want/etc about the nation. Therefore most citizens throw away the right to speaking whenever they want to the public as an official decision maker and direct representation, even though the citizens technically have the right to demand those, because

Although FEW is not a democracy, the admins and such are much more like members because their time is not always already consumed entirely by the work they're required to do, and they can consider all member input on some level.

I don't even know if that makes sense in words, or if I would need to expiate this idea more to make any sense, but no way will I spare more time on it - least, not right now. Anyway, all that being said, I'd like the members to ask themselves if any of the mods seriously cause detriment to the boards. If I was completely in favor of stopping any sort of conflict or disagreement on FEW Hiei would be the first person I'd ban, simply on the basis of the number of people who seek out arguments with him - least casualties, right? -, and there are a number of others who'd need to leave as well. But IMO the point of a forum is not to avoid whenever possible any sort of argument or whatnot, and moreover simply from the fact that all you guys enjoy FEW it can be said that Hiei as a mod is a good thing. Any sort of "wrong" thing he does often provokes a debate that keeps people fired up and interested, and the board if anything is galvanized by his presence.

Is the situation in FEW so drastic right now that any sort of change in mods is actually necessary? As far as I can tell, everything that needs doing gets done, though I could have the complete wrong impression on that line of whatever.

Boredom sets in.

I really don't care what you guys do. Who even cares? It's just staff. Big whoop.

Again, 'cause staff is the foundation of the forum.

And, though some people may not want to admit it, we urn for some sort of government for regulation.

Throwing my two cents in: I'm still a forum teammer (do they exist anymore?) so what role do I play in all of this?

To Severian: Amen

To Trace: There is really no point in demoting forum teamers. You get the job because you have a decent understanding of how RPGs work and can input on our system. You get to see the board because of your understanding.

No, you certainly made me understand well enough, and you're actually right. If FEW was that simple. The problem is, most of the members here have trouble getting along. This meaning, as soon as one person gets his vote in, another one starts complaing about that opinion, which results in a war where nothing actually happens.

Or something like that.

It's not that I don't support members having their say about something, it's just that it doesn't work here anymore.

I don't think Fire Emblem stats would work on a Role Play board. Keep the setting, but we should find an alternate way to cope with this.

Wait... are we still doing the RP?

Aside from a reputation he gained for being a tad hard-headed... he's done nothing but good. All those who "left" over him came back within a week or two, right? I don't see Hiei as a bad thing. The whole staff needs to shape up though.

Hilarious

Hiei, pick a side, democracy or not, it's really annoying >_>

But...just so I can rank with the hypocrits aswell..

Administrators
'Ivan - Love him, when he's on he's doing a great job, but as for now, where the hell is he?
Kayoh - Love ya even more, but he doesn't seem to be doing anything either
Lionheart - One day, he was your run of the mill moderator, I wake up one day and he's the root admin, what the hell happened? He's probably doing something really big behind the scenes, but I yet to have seen anything
strikeraider827 - I think he's doing the best job out of all of them, and he doesn't seem to be doing much

Global Moderators
AL-X - Your constant switching views is irritating.
KuraiKitsune - "Last Activity: Feb 4 2007, 01:37 PM
User's local time Feb 12 2007, 08:30 PM' 'nugh said
ReydeMagival20635 - Alright, no real complaints, don't like him personally, but whatever

Advisors:
Alex
Karn
Kipdog
Frankly, I think these three are better for the forum then the 7 above, aside from Kip's random inactivness (WoW!), I'd say I'd rather have the Advisors and Admins swapped.

I'd just like to inform you all that I have been making an effort to increase my activity here, and Im not as inactive as alot of you think I am. I come on atleast once everyday and invest about an hour or two to the boards. My job as an advisor doesnt require me to be on every hour of the day on the message board, so I dont understand what Im doing wrong to displease alot of you. I am fulfilling my duty, advising or stating my opinion on things.

As of my view on the staff, I have nothing against it. Im more neutral on this matter than anything, but I usually try to remain neutral so I can see everyone's point of view. I really dont have too much of an opinion for or against the staff. I think its fine the way it is. Could be better, could be worse.

Thats all I have to input on this for now.

When you aren't seen, people will make assumptions. I've done it myself.

LOL, you say that like you're a god.

Anyway...

1. That was a major necro, but yes, I think we are gonna have an RP.
2. If you want to give your oppinion on a staff, maybe try to do the current staff. xD

roflmao


I am God. :hopping: :hopping:

Necroes don't really matter in Updates. This board is all one giant sticky. Any stickies in this board are super-stickies.

Oh... in that case...

Ivan - Uh... good? Does what needs to be done.
Ultima - He got better, now that I know more, and I'm not so stupid, he's actually pretty good.
Strike - Again, does what needs to be done.

Hiei - Good mod, sometimes breaks the rules, contradicts himself, and gives out false warnings, but still good at modding.
ZKX - Active, does what he sees needs to be done. Doesn't really go looking for it though.
Chou - Active, looks to see if anything needs to be done, and does it.

That's how I veiw the staff. Overall, it's pretty good, but eh... no complaints at the moment.

I'll be the first to say it: I'm a mellow guy. I'm a firm believer in the fact that it's the internet, like it or leave it. So I can see why I haven't done much in way of warns, as I haven't seen anything I saw as too drastic.

Ivan - Currently the greatest staff member. Needs to get more active though.
Ultima - He's really cool I can say that. I haven't seen him do anything wrong.
Strike - Does what needs to be done.

Hiei - Good moderator. And a good e-friend. He's doing a fine job imo.
ZKX - Currently my favorite Global Moderator.
Chou - ... x_x