Keith Ellison, who is America's first Muslim congressman, wanted to swear an oath on his holy book, the Qoran. Apparently some of our other politicians didn't like that much. Sooo....they got OWNED

EDIT:
Another somewhat interesting article for good measure.
Some random blogger
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Maybe Goode won't get too owned, because Keith's a nice guy:
(from wiki)

Hang on. Some people got mad at this muslim swearing on the Koran during this case? Wow. Your country is falling apart. :P

Oh yeah? Well we have nukes. Beat that XD

Anyways, I don't see the problem in it. If he swears over his own holy book, he's more likely to keep his word I'd assume (if he was a devout muslim, of course).

Ya, 30 years ago he wouldn't even be IN america! The only muslims we had were the NOI, and we had our foot on them!!

Ok, I'm being sarcastic. Look, we're slow at this stuff, esgal. It's the tradeoff for being the best country in the world. We're slow to improve at all :(

I was merely joking around. But I think you understood that. :P

What? You had muslims in America 30 years ago?! :o

Don't even get me started on Americans. Best country in the world, BAH! You voted for Bush, MULTIPLE TIMES. 'Nuff said.

Ya. Black ones, they belonged to the Nation of Islam. Malik El-Shabazz/Malcolm X, Mohammed Ali, Elijah Mohammed, etc. One could argue whether they were muslims in any sense we recognize, since they didn't read the qoran AFAIK or make the Hajj for a good deal of time, didn't think Muhammed was the final prophet, had a doctrinal hatred towards jews, and believed their founder was a messiah and embodiment of god, which is pretty Christian. An exception is Malcolm, who broke from the movement a few years from his death, embraced the entirety of the religion, and started preaching that Islam could bring everyone together, not just black people. They shot him :(

I'm sure we had some arab muslims too, but I've never really read anything about em.

I didn't :( My state favored Kerry, who's marginally better. And I wouldn't have if I was old enough to.

But you know, we're like that city on the hill or something, a beacon to you uncivilized european nations. Some preacher said it a couple hundred years ago, it's gotta be nearly as true as the constitution of the USA, which is apparently holy and infalliable due to being written by the guys who beat England or something.

Uncivilized European Nations? Are you crazy? You know that Americans come from Europe right? Those "Uncivilized European Nations" were building huge colonies all around the world before America was anything but a mostly empty continent.

It's her religion, and you can choose that here, I don't see what the big deal is.

I mean, they're worried about what she's sworn in on when they should be worried about Iraq, Iran, and North Korea.

As for uncivilized European nations... Just France, the rest are pretty civilized. My dad told me about when he was in France for the army, he said he went all over Europe, and the only time the were disrespected was in France. Two of his guys got kicked out of the army because the beat up a french dude for spitting in their faces. >_>

Silly Americans, always attacking what they don't understand.

Like Muslims and Saddam Hussein.

Muslims are people, and just like most social groups everywhere, a few nutjobs can give them a bad image.

And Saddam was a psycopathic douschebag. I think we understand em.

My state favored Bush, and I'm fuckin proud of that. I favor Bush, and I still fuckin do. You have a problem, just let me say I really don't care. I'm not one for politics, especially among my peers. We are a generation whos political beliefs are not created by politics but by t-shirts and television programs. Damn near sickening.

Dear sir...how severely impaired is your ability to read the sarcastic tone of my post? I'm not really so snobby as to claim the US is the best country in the world. I like it ok but I haven't lived in many countries, so it'd be ignorant to crown a "best" on the basis of my knowledge.

The stuff about city on a hill and uncivilized europeans was just a reference to John Winthrop, a famous puritan speaker. Again, joke. The writer was against England's anglican church and the roman catholic church, and was hoping that the colonies in the new world succeed and serve as an example for the european nations. Of course, one could easily argue puritanism wasn't exactly the best religion to branch from Christianity, but...

So you're not one for politics, but you begrudge people who don't understand every facet politics and base decisions partially on trivial matters? I really don't care who you voted for, but I'm confused about your latter points.

EDIT: First off, I'm just curious, Valter, are you saying we don't get muslims, or they don't get us? I could see either as a possible statement.

The Balkans ain't that civilized.

Lemme rephrase: I'm not one to partake in political discussions often, and even less often among my own peers because more often than not they don't think about what they're saying, they just spout what they're read on t-shirts and heard from comedians. I could care less if you understand or don't understand the facets of politics, it's just frustrating when people spout opinions that they're told to have, not what they're own opinions (If you can understand that).

Sorry bout that. I'm missing a lot of sleep, and I'm starting to notice I'm a lot less... coherent in the delivery of my thoughts today. Especially in the topic about the new RPG world.

Americans don't understand the Muslims.

I quite agree.

I am even more ashamed as a Virginian than when we voted for the amendment to "protect marriage".... And I am not talking about one to outlaw divorce.

It really pisses me off when people say they're ashamed to call themselves "Such and such." If you're ashamed of it, either do something to change it or leave. Complaining and so-called witty remarks gets nothing.

Edit: Nevermind, what I said made no sense at all.

Got it, and agreed. And I'll admit, I've found that libs have a greater frequency to do so than conservatives. I think this is partially because lib is "in" with hollywood and such.