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Title: Return of the RPG


Reydemagival20635 - April 6, 2007 04:53 PM (GMT)
Ok, so me and the rest of the staff have been talking, and we've decided we're bringing the RPG back. Now, this RPG's going to be a little different than the last few. First of all, we're bringing back the system from the second generation RPG(Second Elibe), given that it works best for the size of our community. Second, this might not even have countries, for a while, until we get enough activity. The bottom line is, we need more people, so spread the word. People you have on your buddy lists from previous RPGs, new people, ADVERTISE PLEASE. So yeah... Feedback would be real nice.

Esgalglinion - April 6, 2007 04:56 PM (GMT)
And here I thought you actually weren't doing anything. xD

Alright, let's see what we can do.

Dragon_Tam3r - April 6, 2007 05:58 PM (GMT)
Is this the Everyone gang up on West Lycia Era?

Loved that one, once I see some action, I'll get everyone I can get my grubby IMs and PMs on :P

Severian - April 7, 2007 12:36 AM (GMT)
Gl hf :(

EDIT-I don't think I'll participate, but I hope it goes well.

Kaden - April 7, 2007 02:01 AM (GMT)
Hey, I'm all for helping out, I mean, band is calming down and I'm getting free time again. Just yell when you get stuff started. (BTW, mass emailing once you get stuff up does wonders.)

Reydemagival20635 - April 7, 2007 03:09 AM (GMT)
Well, Kaden, you can help me dig up the old Stat RPG rules. They should be in the trash forum, so help me out here.

'Ivan - April 7, 2007 10:44 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Dragon_Tam3r @ Apr 7 2007, 12:58 AM)
Is this the Everyone gang up on West Lycia Era?

Hahahaha! :lol:

Well, I won't have deleted any of the rules except for maybe old Shop topics. Let's see..

Arcan - April 7, 2007 02:12 PM (GMT)
The Rules
They're easy to find when its the.. third to last topic or so in the 'other memories' section of the trash.

Reydemagival20635 - April 7, 2007 03:36 PM (GMT)
Thanks a lot Arcan, that's phase 1 of the plan complete. Now, I'll just move that topic to the RP Production forum and we'll have our team work on it there.

Kyrillos - April 7, 2007 07:57 PM (GMT)
WAit...Hold...

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Sorry, had to get the hysterical laughter out of my system when I saw the topic title. 'Scusi.

Lades - April 8, 2007 03:45 AM (GMT)
I'm hoping for a triumphant return...but looking at the past, I gotta say Aien's got a point, albeit a smartass one. Oh well, let's get crackin.

Askio - April 8, 2007 01:44 PM (GMT)
I was wondering what happened to the thing. Ill grab people from all over with IM and PMs too.

Disalver - April 10, 2007 01:21 AM (GMT)
Darkhero wants to put his useless input into this place. I have been gone for 1 year and I have learned a lot. And the one thing RP forums like FEW always make is they STICK WITH ONE RPG/RP UNTIL THE FORUM DIES OR THE RPG/RP DIES.

Listen to me or not, I am just suggesting. I relate and RPG or an RP to a personal narrative. It should have a climax and a resolution. This effective way of RP is much faster than the one we have here.

Dragon_Tam3r - April 10, 2007 01:26 AM (GMT)
Wow, we have been doing that haven't we?

XD

Disalver - April 10, 2007 01:41 AM (GMT)
Doesn't look like. You changed it like what after more than 2 years?

Dragon_Tam3r - April 10, 2007 02:20 AM (GMT)
I meant the waiting for the RPG to die xD

Disalver - April 10, 2007 04:10 AM (GMT)
It will only die when the admin says so. *waits for the admin*

Dragon_Tam3r - April 10, 2007 12:49 PM (GMT)
RPG's dead, Admins have said so :P

Phoenix - April 10, 2007 07:16 PM (GMT)
I will try to participate again, it was fun in WL and Ostia...

Pondy - April 10, 2007 10:07 PM (GMT)
I'm hoping that we can put some kind of limit on country members. What we don't want is another WL. >_<

Dragon_Tam3r - April 10, 2007 10:12 PM (GMT)
You're just mad 'cuz BTP was so small

I'd say give a limit, but make it like a percentage limit, not an actual number limit, for example: Say there's 6 countries, one country at max can only have 25% of the total countries' population

Kojiro - April 10, 2007 10:16 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Pondy @ Apr 10 2007, 05:07 PM)
I'm hoping that we can put some kind of limit on country members. What we don't want is another WL. >_<

And some Character/Level Limit. Carcino? >_>

Pondy - April 10, 2007 11:23 PM (GMT)
There will be no level limit. If you're active, you deserve to be powerful.

The country limit, if it's implimented, will likely be reliant on other countries. I'll use the example I posted in Production;
Say there are 3 countries(there definitely will be more, I'm just using this for the example), 1 has 13 members, another has 8, and the third has 20, we shouldn't allow country #3 to have any more members until country #2 has at least, say 10 or 12 members.

Just a li'l sneak peak. :)

Kyrillos - April 11, 2007 10:05 PM (GMT)
You'll want a judging corps. if your REALLY serious about this. I kid you not. WL was powerful because they had all the judges. Most judges are powerful due to judging deals and pay for judging. You'll want a set of neutral people to do the judging, or things will get out of hand.

Just an idea, as it's happened every time yet so far.

Unless were going back to pre-my join time. I know of that RP too, and it didn't suffer AS much from biased judging.

Disalver - April 11, 2007 10:26 PM (GMT)
I'll be a judge, cause I want to be neutral in the RPG/RP.

sara13987 - April 11, 2007 11:12 PM (GMT)
About WL: Whateverrrr. We would've brought them down sooner or later. EL 4 lief!

Yes, we need impartial, dedicated judges / war judges. We also need war rules which eliminate any loophole possible (I'll probably hate myself for mentioning that later on), and rules demanding time limits on wars. Member limits would be nice, but they can't be too strict; that can deter new members. Besides that, though, that set of RPG rules would be good.

Askio - April 11, 2007 11:43 PM (GMT)
rules are very good. A world wihtout rules would be baaaaaad. And limits I agree with are good to, which can be adjusted if the members interested grow.

Durendal - April 12, 2007 12:46 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Askio @ Apr 11 2007, 06:43 PM)
rules are very good. A world wihtout rules would be baaaaaad. And limits I agree with are good to, which can be adjusted if the members interested grow.

Probably the most useless post I could ever imagine.(except this one which is just to point out how useless your post was.)"Rules are good" no kidding.


Kaden - April 12, 2007 01:06 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Dragon_Tam3r @ Apr 10 2007, 05:12 PM)
You're just mad 'cuz BTP was so small

I'd say give a limit, but make it like a percentage limit, not an actual number limit, for example: Say there's 6 countries, one country at max can only have 25% of the total countries' population

I think that's the best thing suggested so far.

Phoenix - April 12, 2007 02:18 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kyrillos @ Apr 11 2007, 05:05 PM)
You'll want a judging corps. if your REALLY serious about this. I kid you not. WL was powerful because they had all the judges. Most judges are powerful due to judging deals and pay for judging. You'll want a set of neutral people to do the judging, or things will get out of hand.

Will there be enough people who don't want to participate in the RPG but want to judge? There might be a large gap for judges... Maybe have a system where each country gives and rotates judges who are for a set time suspended from the RPG? There would still be bias, but all countries would give the same or proportional amount of judges...

PS You wouldn't have brought down WL... :P

PPS Are the character rules/battle mechanics different than those posted? Cuz I would prefer to make a character in advance before spring break is finished.

Durendal - April 12, 2007 01:02 PM (GMT)
If anything I think that the admins should probably be the core of the judging corps, not to say that there won't be others who'll want to be judges but there has to be some sort of reward for doing it?

PS WL totally would have lost, I mean, c'mon everyone hated WL we woulda ganged up on you eventually. (Plus, I was in EL so we woulda won just on that.)

Leo - April 12, 2007 02:47 PM (GMT)
Maybe judges should just not judge any matches that have to do with their country? Unless all of the judges are in one or two countries, it shouldn't be a problem. And if they are, balance them out between countries or something. :/

sara13987 - April 12, 2007 02:50 PM (GMT)
Yeah, the reward system worked wonderfully before. It was just the bias, there. Also, about the maps. I think actual visual aid would be better than just charts. Kinda like FEW maps, except not that complicated. Anyone remember the first war ever, Tania vs Nabata? Remember that map? Just a simple grid with certain squares colored in to represent units. As I've been saying all along, the simpler it is, the better it'll work.

Damn straight, Dur. We were all ganged up on them at the end, too. It just so happened those battles were never judged. Grondy can't expect to screw me over and live to talk about it, can he? Let that be a lesson to all of you. :P

... Wait a minute. Dur, you were in Etruria then, remember? I told you about Grondy's plan and asked you advice then. Then you were supposed to go into Bern and help secure it and stuff.

Edit: Leo, there's a slight problem with that. The reason there were so many judges is because country leaders put pressure on their members to level, and a few people stepped up to make sure that happened. Take away that, and why would anyone want to be a judge if it helps someone else's country?

Disalver - April 12, 2007 03:01 PM (GMT)
Reward system?


Ostia beats Lycia... Ostia wins a cookie?

From my perspective, I wouldn't really choose a reward system.

Durendal - April 12, 2007 03:04 PM (GMT)
lol nahh I don't rememer Sara, I remember sooo little from then. I know I was the co-leader of El for a while and I did move to Etruria. Ahhhh the politics of it all. Thats what I think is missing from FEW now, people were always playing at politics back then and it added a little.... (lol) zest to the game. Also, I want strifles back.

sara13987 - April 12, 2007 03:31 PM (GMT)
Reward system as in... 50G per fight judged, or whatever it was back then.

Well, you were the only leader for a while, and I was the sub-leader. Then after the whole Strike incident, I was tempted to quit, but you quit before me and I took up leadership. Then the 2nd RPG started, and I was leader all through that. You decided to try something different and joined Etruria when you came back from an absense. You, Strike, and Matty were the biggest people in Etruria.

Politics, heh. The fun of the RPG depends mainly on how conniving the leaders are. The more scheming goes on, the more drama. It's funny though... because now as soon as the leadership applications are sent out, alliances already start forming, even though people don't even know if they're a leader yet.

Disalver - April 12, 2007 06:36 PM (GMT)
Don't think that would work... 100 G for as minimum.

Pondy - April 12, 2007 07:32 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Disalver @ Apr 12 2007, 01:36 PM)
Don't think that would work... 100 G for as minimum.

It already worked. And no, we're not bringing it back. We're going to do something that isn't really bendable, rule wise. I really wish I could leak the information from Production, but sadly, I can't.

Let's just say that I've been getting shit done, with the help of Kurai, Strike, Karn, and Reyde.

Disalver - April 12, 2007 09:55 PM (GMT)
Shit=Role play? I am starting a RPG site of my own soon enough... And I usually view other sites to gain info. -_- Seriously, WE ALL NEED TO REMEMBER RESOLUTION...

I rest my case.

Severian - April 13, 2007 12:25 AM (GMT)
Ok, no offense, but simply looking at another site for a bit or starting one's own RP doesn't justify anything. I can look at a site for 5 or 10 minutes and probably start an RP of my own - success is the only evidence you could throw at anyone to convince them, most likely. However, if you try arguing why 100g would be better than 50g (even though with 50g we had problems with active judges having way too much gold) you might have success at convincing someone.

I ultimately don't like the idea of the board RPG as it's been done (with arena duels and stuff) simply because I think the judging system has little if any chance to work that well. With a computerized type thing where the players agree to fight and then a random program does the work (there's actually a FE battle map sim, but I dunno where it is) I feel like things could happen.

I feel like none of the RPGs I was in here (though it was only later) were actually 'successes' in terms of finishing up with a bunch of interesting wars and such (not to mention that having tacticians basically means most people spend their time leveling chars and little else - not that there's a real solution to that), but they wound up being fun anyway.

EDIT-Also, what other sites with the same weapon pricing system as us have you looked at?




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