Title: School Shooting
Esgalglinion - April 17, 2007 05:54 AM (GMT)
I read in the newspaper this morning that around 30 people was killed and about as many was injured in a school shooting incidence in Virginia somewhere.
Now I'm not really american, but it does hurt to know people has been killed anyways.
I'm not quite sure what the purpose of this topic is. Maybe it's for memorial purpose or something.
One quiet minute for our fellow men and women.
Evan - April 17, 2007 08:03 AM (GMT)
Virginia Tech, and of course Bush has to throw in his two cents about the shit.
Valter - April 17, 2007 01:24 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Evan @ Apr 17 2007, 02:03 AM) |
| Virginia Tech, and of course Bush has to throw in his two cents about the shit. |
Well, dur dur dur. He's the President. Thats the guys job.
When I read that 33 people died, I swear, my heart just stopped for a second. I was wondering, "Whats the media going to blame this time?"
Esgalglinion - April 17, 2007 07:07 PM (GMT)
Reydemagival20635 - April 17, 2007 07:29 PM (GMT)
Yeah, probably. But I wish the media wouldn't make such a big fuss about it. I mean, sure, it's a huge deal. 30+ people did die, but we don't have to be hearing about it EVERY MINUTE OF EVERY HOUR OF EVERY DAY FOR THE NEXT THREE WEEKS. Damned Sensationalist media just pisses me off.
sara13987 - April 17, 2007 07:29 PM (GMT)
They were talking about it in school today, and my brother had it on TV last night and this afternoon. It all depresses me. :/
My sympathy goes out to the victims and their families.
Arcan - April 17, 2007 08:50 PM (GMT)
While I do feel for the victims and their families, I'll say here what I said at school today:
"One death is a tragedy. One million is a statistic."~Josef Stalin.
Take that quote, and then put this incident to the backdrop of everything going on in the middle east...
Lades - April 17, 2007 08:56 PM (GMT)
Our school actually is supposed to be "Columbined" on Friday (I think the 4/20 people are looking for a excuse to stay home... <_< ), but now everyone says we're gonna be V-T'ed.
I may have started that expression though...
In any case, it's a bad situation, and I feel for the families. But I'm not effected by it, and now, the media has a new story to play for a month on CNN is study hall. At least it's not Anna Nicole.... <_<
Hiyami - April 18, 2007 07:04 PM (GMT)
Hmmm... I dunno. Doesn't really bother me. Just found out two of my cousins kicked the bucket though.
Puff - April 18, 2007 08:11 PM (GMT)
I think that discussion already died at the school I go to. Now what I'm hearing is:
"Oh my God! That guy that killed his wife is in our city! That's so scarey!"
Esgalglinion - April 18, 2007 08:30 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Hiyami @ Apr 18 2007, 02:04 PM) |
| Hmmm... I dunno. Doesn't really bother me. Just found out two of my cousins kicked the bucket though. |
Wow. I'd be a little more concerned if I had a cousin killed. Then again, I only have 8 cousins, so maybe that's the thing.
Severian - April 18, 2007 09:25 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Esgalglinion @ Apr 18 2007, 03:30 PM) |
| QUOTE (Hiyami @ Apr 18 2007, 02:04 PM) | | Hmmm... I dunno. Doesn't really bother me. Just found out two of my cousins kicked the bucket though. |
Wow. I'd be a little more concerned if I had a cousin killed. Then again, I only have 8 cousins, so maybe that's the thing.
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Are you implying that chinese people, and therefore all asians, have more kids and therefore love their relatives less because they have more of them? POLITICAL INSENSITIVITY WAR TIME!
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| When I read that 33 people died, I swear, my heart just stopped for a second. I was wondering, "Whats the media going to blame this time?" |
Currently gun control. Well, some of the media have made a countercrusade to stop anyone from using this event as a reason to push politics. I think it's somewhat justifiable. On the one hand, there's the argument that if one of the 33 dead had a gun, there might be less dead people overall. Or that the killer in this case probably could have gotten a gun anyway.
On the other hand, there's the argument that VA is infamous for lax gun control, and that people from MA, NJ, etc apparently do go down there to get around more stringent gun control laws up north. Or that allowing vigilantism (is that really a word) is a very mixed bag of nuts. I don't really have an opinion either way.
By the way, I'm glad to see no one has mentioned the intensely boring, if justifiably controversial (within the bounds of those who care about it) stuff relating to the rutgers team and a radio dude. The longer the board stays that way, the longer I can give credit to everyone on it for ignoring it.
Dragon_Tam3r - April 19, 2007 03:01 AM (GMT)
"One death is a tragedy. One million is a statistic."~Josef Stalin.
Heh, I just happened to remember that the other day, the actual quote i believe was longer, but still.
This is bigger then Columbine, it's the largest mass-murder by a single gunman in USA history (Single gunman, so suicide bombers, explosives, and teamed killings don't count :P).
Saw the video on youtube, taken by a kid just outside the main building with his phone, and saw some news. Pretty interesting I thought, here's what I've collected
Chinese dude (his name sounds Korean, so alot of people are saying he's Korean, but her came to the USA when he was like 5 from China) (And forgot his name :P) got mad for whatever reason, brought the guns, and killed two people in a dorm. Police did close to nothing, and then a hour afterwards, they E-mail most of the teachers/students, but since they were in class, no one got it basically, and no further action was taken. After he killed the two people, he preceded to waltz down to his dorm, make the suicide note, a short video and some other things. Two hours after the killings, he then went to one of the engineering (i think) buildings, and chain the doors together so that no one could get out. After a bit of mindless and random shooting, he went to (again, i think) the library and had to shoot through a door being barricaded by a up-turned desk, and went in the room, did most of the killing and injuring, he went down a hall or two, and continued. Afterwards I don't know what happened besides that he shoot himself in the head, which just further complicated the ordeal, because you couldn't tell what he looks like.
Black Valor - April 19, 2007 03:27 AM (GMT)
From discussion that I overheard regarding the event, dead to injured ratio was pretty skewed. More dead than injured, that is.
They were saying that he knew what he was doing, not some random guy who happened to pick up a gun.
Esgalglinion - April 19, 2007 07:59 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Severian @ Apr 18 2007, 04:25 PM) |
| QUOTE (Esgalglinion @ Apr 18 2007, 03:30 PM) | | QUOTE (Hiyami @ Apr 18 2007, 02:04 PM) | | Hmmm... I dunno. Doesn't really bother me. Just found out two of my cousins kicked the bucket though. |
Wow. I'd be a little more concerned if I had a cousin killed. Then again, I only have 8 cousins, so maybe that's the thing.
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Are you implying that chinese people, and therefore all asians, have more kids and therefore love their relatives less because they have more of them? POLITICAL INSENSITIVITY WAR TIME!
| QUOTE | | When I read that 33 people died, I swear, my heart just stopped for a second. I was wondering, "Whats the media going to blame this time?" |
Currently gun control. Well, some of the media have made a countercrusade to stop anyone from using this event as a reason to push politics. I think it's somewhat justifiable. On the one hand, there's the argument that if one of the 33 dead had a gun, there might be less dead people overall. Or that the killer in this case probably could have gotten a gun anyway.
On the other hand, there's the argument that VA is infamous for lax gun control, and that people from MA, NJ, etc apparently do go down there to get around more stringent gun control laws up north. Or that allowing vigilantism (is that really a word) is a very mixed bag of nuts. I don't really have an opinion either way.
By the way, I'm glad to see no one has mentioned the intensely boring, if justifiably controversial (within the bounds of those who care about it) stuff relating to the rutgers team and a radio dude. The longer the board stays that way, the longer I can give credit to everyone on it for ignoring it.
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xD
No, I was rather implying that Sweden is underpopulated.
dark menace - April 19, 2007 11:14 PM (GMT)
mmmm :( VA Tech is about 20 minutes away from me..... about half of the kids in our high school go to VT, so it was really tragic for us all.... one poor girl's cousin was shot, but luckily survived. We holding an assembly tommorow to grieve....
btw the killer was literally mentally insane. Seriously, he had been in a help center a while ago....
Dragon_Tam3r - April 19, 2007 11:27 PM (GMT)
Well, he was only there for about 1 day, school counselors constantly suggested he go more, but obviously, he didn't.
Severian - April 19, 2007 11:39 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Dragon_Tam3r @ Apr 19 2007, 06:27 PM) |
| Well, he was only there for about 1 day, school counselors constantly suggested he go more, but obviously, he didn't. |
I heard today that during that time, however, he had been judged 'a danger to himself and others'. I think it was a 'skim' investigation of his state, and not really covering everything, and there are other students like him who go through 4 years of school without shooting people.
Question is, should schools be required to look further into cases like that further, or not?
Puff - April 20, 2007 09:37 PM (GMT)
Staff and students (especially his roommates) should have been notified of his mental stability (there were A LOT of red flags, especially from his writing and the way he acted towards some students). Also, he should have been removed from the school and from the community -- I beleive that's what I heard Dr. Keith Ablow say the other night on TV.
Dragon_Tam3r - April 20, 2007 10:45 PM (GMT)
yeah, heard the same thing.
Frankly, it'd take too much time, and might drive them to be even more aggressive if forced to.
He basically acted like any other extremely shy/kinda emo person. Besides, even if you just remove his, you'd have to place him somewhere, and if it was another school, not much of a difference, or if placed in a special school, again, that could easily cause him to be more aggressive, not counting the immoral factor of that if every school started doing that.
dark menace - April 21, 2007 03:19 AM (GMT)
I've seen so many greiving people around here, it doesn't matter what you do to prevent something like that from happening again, so long as it helps. Its heartbreaking....
Random Guy: ......... *cries*
Lades - April 21, 2007 04:01 AM (GMT)
Did anyone read the plays he wrote? They're messed up.
Strangly though, I still lol'ed.