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So, I noticed there was no topic for the Presidency here, so I decided to make one. Any likes/dislikes/mindless anti-Clinton ranting, you can tell it all here.

I want Barack Obama to win. He's basically the same platform as Hilary, but he's a lot more likable. Out of the Reps., I like McCain.

Mitt Romney's hair scares me.

Fuck Chuck. Vote Macgyver 2008.

I'm liking Barack Obama right now. Hillary seems like a bitter person.

I dislike many of the bills Hiliary has tried to pass before so I'm pretty much anti-Hillary. Hillary cried twice (for attention I believe) and even if they were not crocodile tears I do not think the United States should rely on someone who breaks under pressure so easily (and at convienient times <<). The president of America is its figure-head to the world and I think Obama fits the "charassmatic leader" profile very well. One problem I have with Obama is that he voted "present" very many times. I'm also against universal health care at the moment but I'll be researching it soon so my opinion might change once I see both sides.

As for the other side of the coin I was:
1) Mitt Romney
2) Mike Hucklebee- Relies way to much of propaganda and publicity and not policies. :/ He backs himself up with Chuck Norris, Steven Colbert, and Connen O'Brian...that's just begging for attention. Plus he uses the fact he was a pastor to win the south. Religion should never be brought up for victory. <<
3) John McCain- 71 years old, an "old-politics" guy, and is similar to the same mistakes we've been making for the past couple years. Please, I want some change. T.T

I voted for Romney but since it seems he is a "no-go" I'll be rooting for Obama.

I'd put my support behind Romney. He is probably the candidate that will actually stick to what he says and maintain his values.

Reason for not liking:
McCain: his policies are basically like that of a democrat, which would be alright if he wasn't in the republican party. He is a lot of talk and not a lot of do. His only actual stance on anything that shows he can go against opposition is his stance on the war.
Hillary: She is smart enough to get things done, which is normally a good thing. However, universal health care and things like that are the issues she will push forth. She's already screwed up our healthcare system enough.
Obama: Just a politically savy person. He is very good with words and very inspirational and very good at giving speeches. However he is also a lot of talk and not a lot of do. His ideas on getting strong industry in the U.S. are very good and should be followed, but he still needs to prove that he is going to do something and actually follow through with what he says in his speeches.

I don't know a whole lolt about any of them, so I plan to research that later. Right now, after watching some debates, I'd say Obama merely because of the way he seems to draw me in with his speeches....

Obama's been sweeping up primaries like a damn maid, eh?

Mwahahaha, yesss....

I may even campaign for him here in Ohio, if he picks up either it or Texas he pretty much becomes the go-ahead candidate.

If it ain't Hilary, I'll be happy.

I'd be happier if it wasn't a democrat at all, but if it ain't Hilary, I'll be happy.

every candidate that has won has won ohio, I'm waiting to see what happens then.

Personally, if it's anyone other than Hilary, I'm leaving the country.

I just dislike replublicans' politics. And I just plain don't like the other democrats running. Sure, Obama might be a nice guy - but he's extremely inexperienced (and doesn't even have one term as Senator on his record). If he's inaugurated (sp?) the country will be fucked (pardon me) within the first few days.
Atleast Hilary went to law school, so she knows how it works, and with her husband being former Mr. President, she knows how to handle things. She's a highly experienced candidate.

Whatever the outcome, this is the most historical election time what with an African American man and a white female running.

I think we've already had Hilary as president for two terms, we don't need a third. The woman ran the white house and Bill with it. He would frequently request her decision as opposed to making his own, and if she disagreed he'd change it. If you read any of the writings about what she was like in the White House, it's FAR different from that happy "I have tits" campaign thats going on.

I want to say don't give me that crap about Obama being black and Hillary being a woman. None of that should matter in a presidential campaign. What should matter is merit, values, and pre-made plans to be put to action while in office. (I know I can't because there are those who will vote for Obama because he's black and Hillary because she is a woman.)

If anything the LEAST experience in the Senate the better. <<

The longer your in office the easier it is for lobbiest to dig their talons into you. Hillary is already on the Pharmacies's payroll; in fact she is paid the second highest in the White House to leave them be. Plus...being first lady during Bill's reign isn't exactly what I call "top-knotched" experience.

Being president isn't exactly the hardest job. The Senate and House of Representatives make all the decisions, the president just choses whether to approve or not. It is all about opinion, common sense, and llistening to the people. Looking at some of the bills Hiliray has supported, she apparently is not listening to me. :/

Puff, you're wrong. Obama went to law school; HARVARD LAW SCHOOL. You can't pull that card when both have law school experience. Fail.

You're leaving the country? Okay, sorry. Bye. At least it's one person leaving instead of most of the people in my town. You don't understand how many times a day someone says "if Hilary's elected, I'm moving to Canada."

Also, you have heard Obama say that he'd place Bill and Al Gore in his cabinet if elected, right?

I agree with Trace; the longer you're in Congress, the more corrupt you become. I don't know about his figures, though. THey sound logical.

If you hadn't figured it out yet, I'm all for Obama. I'll be voting for him come the Ohio primary. I really think he can unite the country that is so fucking torn apart by partisan lines. Common goals ftw!

Plus, Hilary's just not LIKEABLE. The presidency's already a full-o-crap position, why give the Muslim extremists ANOTHER reason to bomb us?

Oh, if anyone dares say Obama's a terrorist, I'll kill yeh. That's a load. of. shit.

Obama's really doing well, lately. Hilary's lost her edge.

Really, I don't care, but the man's middle name is Hussein. I lol'd.

I love you. With all my heart.

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Thanks, guys.

Am I the only one who thinks Stephen Colbert needs to just shut the fuck up about politics? I find him really annoying and obnoxious.

It's an act, but it sure is one hell of an annoying act.

Meh, I like it but not enough to join the Nation. <<

I should say that I'm not actually sure that I will vote for Obama, but here is my defense of him.

To be clear my biggest problems with him are his ideas on how to deal with the Iraq War (but I don't think any of the candidates have great ideas), his missing the iran vote (though I do give him credit for apologizing instead of spinning it), and that I think that on his current spending ideas he should be prepared to deal with a continuing deficit. I think a lot of people do support him just because he is charismatic, and that is disappointing, but that doesn't mean he actually is only looks and good talk.

But I do think that "good talk" is a good thing. Not just for getting elected. One of his opponents has said so too.

A couple of things to counter this "problem."

Source

Obama's explanation (from his site) specific to the present votes:

This about the guy who did an about face on a number of issues after running in Massachusetts? He has nice hair I guess.

(Source later))

"What has he done" on Obama is a meme. It needs to get killed. First off he was senator in illinois state so he has experience there as well as in the national senate. He actually has more years as a senator than Hillary (he has 10 years in the senate)!

Most of Hillary's experience is as the wife of a politician. Why can't we have Olympia Snowe or Susan Collins in the race instead? Because like Obama, Hillary is a celebrity politician. We talked about guys like Biden as serious candidates due to their experience, but in reality everyone knew the race was Clinton/Edwards/Obama from when all three were officially in it. State senate may be seen less on a national front but in terms of working w/ other politicians to get stuff done it's ignorant to claim he is a n00b or something.

As far as Hillary's political savvy and sneakiness - which is actually important for a pres to have! - she has done a pretty poor job! Should never have been this narrow between her and obama. Every indication is that her campaign managers underestimated him, which means either she or the people she's picked should have looked harder - one could tell right from the keynote address in '04, where he literally stole the show, that he had the potential to be dangerous in any race. Hill has been dealt a blow for any further pres ambitions while (thus far) it looks like obama is just going to come back stronger if he loses out this round. He is made of teflon for god sakes! She has accused Obama of being naive in his plan to end the Bush administrations unilateral negotiations w/ N Korea. Her complains about inexperience are belied by her lack of success in slowing his campaign.

I always find it surprising that people are annoyed by Obama's (relative to clinton's) lack of activity in the national senate. He to some extent followed Clinton's example, who for her first two years was really quite quiet and inactive, maintaining a low profile b/c of his "celebrity" aspect (clinton for her husband).

Another strength of Obama is that whole "cross the aisle" stuff. He's worked with republicans on a number of bills, including Arlen Specter, Chuck Hagel, and the opponent hisself John McCain (another aisle crosser). Pubs and dems coming together is something I would like to see, personally.

Source, and covers Obama's time in the state senate pretty well

This (IMO) Cool article on Obama has an angle that is sorta why I ended up liking him better than I thought I would.

Basically, i really like some of the stuff Obama has done on proliferation, and other stuff. I like that he has done plenty of even if his own supporters don't know or care about it. I like that he has worked with Hagel and Snowe, two pubs I sincerely like from what I know about them. I also like that he scored high on (most of) the veteran's affairs group tests, because the condition war vets are in right now (homeless iraqi war vets) is just ASKING for a new GI Bill. Though I think Clinton has an identical voting record to Obama so I guess it's a moot point.

But hey. Why listen to the articles I'm pushing on what Obama did? Go to votesmart.org and look at Obama (and hillary and all the rest) for yourself! See when and how they vote! And what committees they're in, what issues they're concerned with!

Disagreed. President's role IN THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH is limited to veto power. President is also in charge of putting all those initiatives in place. President is in charge of any military actions. Finally president also puts supreme court justices into office. I do agree however that being president is (or should be) about finding good advisers, comparing their advice. Being a manager not an inventor of policy.

And was pres too. BUT it is worth noting that Hillary had a pretty good law career too and did get an article in the law review. So don't count her low on law experience.

EDIT-OMG WTF IS WRONG WITH ME!?
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