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Title: Kerry, Bush, or the ABB (Anyone but Bush)
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dark menace - August 7, 2004 12:50 PM (GMT)
Who do you support?

strikeraider827 - August 7, 2004 01:17 PM (GMT)
KERRY ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!

Lionheart - August 7, 2004 04:28 PM (GMT)
lol....that figures....abk(any1 but kerry)

why

1 his voting record
he has voted to cut the military's budget way too many times

2 he says he will take back the tax cuts(for the "wealthy" who happen to be the ones making job...i.e small busness)

3 his vp a trial laywer? who made alot of money out of(in my view)
frivalous(sp?) lawsuits.

4 he "says" he believes that life begins at conseption but refuses to support a ban on partial birth abortion.

the 1 reason i like him....he says he"just love that buckeye football"(yeah he said that in mich too, rotfl)

strikeraider827 - August 7, 2004 04:45 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (shadow @ Aug 7 2004, 04:28 PM)
lol....that figures....abk(any1 but kerry)

why

1 his voting record
he has voted to cut the military's budget way too many times

2 he says he will take back the tax cuts(for the "wealthy" who happen to be the ones making job...i.e small busness)

3 his vp a trial laywer? who made alot of money out of(in my view)
frivalous(sp?) lawsuits.

4 he "says" he believes that life begins at conseption but refuses to support a ban on partial birth abortion.

the 1 reason i like him....he says he"just love that buckeye football"(yeah he said that in mich too, rotfl)

We shouldn't be over in Iraq! Leave them alone, ignore the rest of the world, say that Michigan football rocks, and be done with it!

DragonStrife - August 7, 2004 05:13 PM (GMT)
ABK! ABK!!!! Mostly reasons that were destablished by shadow...

Karn - August 7, 2004 08:32 PM (GMT)
i really dont care i dont like any of the canidates i hate politics lol

Axem Titanium - August 8, 2004 03:43 AM (GMT)
Nader! lol. I hate them both.

dark menace - August 8, 2004 11:41 AM (GMT)
ABB!!! Bush does not deserve to hold office! He went into Iraq to find weapons of mass destruction, and theyre are none! Were all just waiting for him to plant the things himself! Now he's saying that they went into Iraq because they had the power to make weapons of mass destruction and use it against the USA! ALMOST EVERYONE HAS THE POWER TO DO THAT!!! YOU KNOW WHAT BUSH REALLY IS DOING!?!?! AVENGING HIS FATHER BECAUSE HE FAILED TO CAPTURE SADDAUM HUSSIEN!!! IT'S A HIDDEN MOTIVE!!! AND YOU KNOW WHAT THAT HAS COST US?!?! OVER 900 AMERICAN TROOP'S LIVES AND 16,000 IRAQIAN CITIZENS LIVES!!!! THERE ARE NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, AND BUSH KNOWS THAT! THERE ARE ONLY WORDS OF MASS DESTRUCTION!!!

sara13987 - August 8, 2004 10:20 PM (GMT)
im nto an amercian or anything, and i have no idea what the hells going on here, but ill just state my opinion for the fun of it:

i dont like George Bush. i just dont. if Bush-supporters heard what people say about him around here, they'd go nuts. heres one of the things that was in a column in a newspaper around here (not quoted exactly; this was a while ago)
"....last time gas prices were this high, President Bush was attacking the middle east. coincidence?...."

he seems to act like the whole world revolves around the USA, and 9/11 was the worst thing that could ever happen to the world. yes, it was a horrible thing, i was affected by it too, but i really dont think that he needed to destroy the middle east for it. it started out as going after Osama Bin Laden and Afganistan, and now its going after Saddam Hussein and Iraq. this doesnt seem to be about 9/11 anymore.

about "weapons of mass destruction". didnt Korea say they had them? and Bush hasnt gone after them.....yet.....

like i said, i have no idea about American politics (hell i barely no anything about Canadian politics~!~!), and im sorry if my opinion upset anybody. but, a right of the world is free speech, so i at least can't get assassinated for this....right...?

Durendal - August 8, 2004 11:28 PM (GMT)
Meh like i care, America can blow itsself up for all i care. well except flordia and cali, i love the sun there, but yeah Bush is cool with me, i dont believe there were weapons but saddam IS insane, so call it a humanitarian mission, it was for the gas no doubt but there we're good things about it.

dark menace - August 9, 2004 12:15 AM (GMT)
What about the time when Bush told the schools that they had to do better, but didn't give them money to help?

Karn - August 9, 2004 02:32 AM (GMT)
Well i dun like george bush because hes an idiot and i hate stupid people i really could care less about politics and i dont know much about it.

Lionheart - August 9, 2004 02:58 AM (GMT)
ok, im tired but i will try to give a arguement for alot of this..

strike:
"We shouldn't be over in Iraq! Leave them alone, ignore the rest of the world,"

uh....does 9'11 mean anything to you? will say more later

" say that Michigan football rocks, and be done with it! "
it doesnt...


dm:
"ABB!!! Bush does not deserve to hold office! He went into Iraq to find weapons of mass destruction, and theyre are none! Were all just waiting for him to plant the things himself! Now he's saying that they went into Iraq because they had the power to make weapons of mass destruction and use it against the USA! ALMOST EVERYONE HAS THE POWER TO DO THAT!!! YOU KNOW WHAT BUSH REALLY IS DOING!?!?! AVENGING HIS FATHER BECAUSE HE FAILED TO CAPTURE SADDAUM HUSSIEN!!! IT'S A HIDDEN MOTIVE!!! AND YOU KNOW WHAT THAT HAS COST US?!?! OVER 900 AMERICAN TROOP'S LIVES AND 16,000 IRAQIAN CITIZENS LIVES!!!! THERE ARE NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, AND BUSH KNOWS THAT! THERE ARE ONLY WORDS OF MASS DESTRUCTION!!! "

um...thats alot of crap....are you saying that today the people of iraq have worse living conditions? lets see right now.....they don't have to worry about saddaum deciding to gas them......hmm when did that happen???? oh yeah he gassed, how many kurds not that many years ago....and he didnt comply with the un sanctions for. how long????
also are you saying that those soldiers are dieing for one mans battle? yeah right.......they believe in it...you don't just die for something you don't believe in.....also....THE wmd could have been made small and just been researched on. then transported out of country.....wait a sec...i think i remember something about some1 saying something about moveable research faculity's......enough.....i don't want to start flaming you....


sara:

"he seems to act like the whole world revolves around the USA, and 9/11 was the worst thing that could ever happen to the world. yes, it was a horrible thing, i was affected by it too, but i really dont think that he needed to destroy the middle east for it. it started out as going after Osama Bin Laden and Afganistan, and now its going after Saddam Hussein and Iraq. this doesnt seem to be about 9/11 anymore. "

it does. the world econimy<sp?> revolves around the use.....sorry but if the us crashes the world econimy<sp?> would die....
and to say that the middle east was fine be4 we went there.....is......sad....i have addressed most of this to you be4 and as it didnt change your oppinion i won't go any further on this.

"about "weapons of mass destruction". didnt Korea say they had them? and Bush hasnt gone after them.....yet....."
china

"like i said, i have no idea about American politics (hell i barely no anything about Canadian politics~!~!), and im sorry if my opinion upset anybody. but, a right of the world is free speech, so i at least can't get assassinated for this....right...? "

in some of those middle east place you could be killed for stating your view....but as you are a girl....you probably wouldnt be allowed to go to school either........

dm:
"What about the time when Bush told the schools that they had to do better, but didn't give them money to help?"

how much is enough???? huh??? my dad and mom are raising, and schooling. myself plus my 12 siblings.....no gov money.....why????? why do they have to still give(my parents) your god damn schools money????
fix your freaking problems.....and stop yelling money money money you
...........arrrgggg...........


now that i have reply'd to you. i would like your answer on a few things....

1. how do you feel about kerry trashing the usa after he got back from vietnam. and now wearing his service there(where he "saw all kinds of unhuman act" and didnt do anything to stop them....even though he was a officer.....until he got back) on his arms......

2. what is something positive about kerry that you like.

3. why do you think you can trust him with this country's safety?

4.how do you feel about his proposed tax hikes for the"wealthy"?
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5.abortion?

6.preserving mariage between one man and one woman....kerry/bush????

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<pissed off shadow>

Durendal - August 9, 2004 05:30 AM (GMT)
phew, i got off easy.

dark menace - August 9, 2004 12:58 PM (GMT)

sara13987 - August 9, 2004 02:53 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (shadow @ Aug 9 2004, 12:28 AM)
strike:
"We shouldn't be over in Iraq! Leave them alone, ignore the rest of the world,"

uh....does 9'11 mean anything to you? will say more later

sara:

"he seems to act like the whole world revolves around the USA, and 9/11 was the worst thing that could ever happen to the world. yes, it was a horrible thing, i was affected by it too, but i really dont think that he needed to destroy the middle east for it. it started out as going after Osama Bin Laden and Afganistan, and now its going after Saddam Hussein and Iraq. this doesnt seem to be about 9/11 anymore. "

it does. the world econimy<sp?> revolves around the use.....sorry but if the us crashes the world econimy<sp?> would die....
and to say that the middle east was fine be4 we went there.....is......sad....i have addressed most of this to you be4 and as it didnt change your oppinion i won't go any further on this.

"about "weapons of mass destruction". didnt Korea say they had them? and Bush hasnt gone after them.....yet....."
china

"like i said, i have no idea about American politics (hell i barely no anything about Canadian politics~!~!), and im sorry if my opinion upset anybody. but, a right of the world is free speech, so i at least can't get assassinated for this....right...? "

in some of those middle east place you could be killed for stating your view....but as you are a girl....you probably wouldnt be allowed to go to school either........

....terrorists from AFGANISTAN caused 9/11 and so did Osama Bin Laden. why, then, are we attacking Iraq? because Afganistan is already destroyed?

yes, many of the products we use come from US, but even more come from China, Taiwan, and alot of other countries like that. one of the only ways the US affects us directly is the gas prices. its about 94.5 cents a litre here as of the last time i checked. if the world revolved around the US, you'd think most of us would know the names of at least 20 of the states huh?

yes, i remember that conversation, tho not much of it cause ive got a really bad memory. it has changed the way i think, but not much. besides on this site, i have never met a Bush supporter. that influences the way i think about things; the only conversations about politics people in my class have is about how much most people dont like Bush.

about Saddam. apparently, the US set him up so that he could rule Iraq. isnt it a coincidence that as soon as he shows a bit of resistance to the US, the US takes him out? that almost seems like hypocrasy (sp?)

i think one of the main reasons i dislike Bush is that this is the first time i have been aware of the war in the world, and he seems to have started it. i know nothing more about what he has done, except for this war.


Random Fact: the US could have had 51 states. when England disowned Newfoundland, both Canada and the United States wanted it. apparently, the worst thing we could've done was join with Canada, and the best would have been to join the US.

dark menace - August 9, 2004 04:02 PM (GMT)
If the US and Canada merged.... 0_o

sara13987 - August 9, 2004 05:04 PM (GMT)
if that happened, US would have free healthcare, and Canada prolly wouldn't be in so much debt.

Down and Out - August 9, 2004 05:35 PM (GMT)
all i gotta say is abk

Lionheart - August 9, 2004 10:10 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (sara13987 @ Aug 9 2004, 09:53 AM)



"....terrorists from AFGANISTAN caused 9/11 and so did Osama Bin Laden. why, then, are we attacking Iraq? because Afganistan is already destroyed?"

1.un sanctions that where ignored
2.he was torturing, killing, his own ppl.
3.wmd's not found...but they could have been shiped out of country.

"yes, many of the products we use come from US, but even more come from China, Taiwan, and alot of other countries like that. one of the only ways the US affects us directly is the gas prices. its about 94.5 cents a litre here as of the last time i checked."

its the importing(we stop importing>they stop producing>they are screwed) that , the us does that is soo important...plus the fact we have troops and money all over the world keeping governments stable.....opec controls gas prices. by deciding how much oil to pump...another thing. oil will always go up in price until another source of fuel is found....

"if the world revolved around the US, you'd think most of us would know the names of at least 20 of the states huh?"

no....ever heard of usa haters???? hmmm it seems like many other nations hate us just because we are so big....plus bad education systems........

"yes, i remember that conversation, tho not much of it cause ive got a really bad memory."

maybe this is why you(they) don't remember 20 of 50 states.... another reason. who cares?...

it has changed the way i think, but not much. besides on this site, i have never met a Bush supporter. that influences the way i think about things; the only conversations about politics people in my class have is about how much most people dont like Bush.

any give good reasons?

about Saddam. apparently, the US set him up so that he could rule Iraq. isnt it a coincidence that as soon as he shows a bit of resistance to the US, the US takes him out? that almost seems like hypocrasy (sp?)

yeah it does...i need to research that more fully to reply.

i think one of the main reasons i dislike Bush is that this is the first time i have been aware of the war in the world, and he seems to have started it. i know nothing more about what he has done, except for this war.

you can't blame him for you realizing what is happening out there....if anyone...blame the insane ppl who think they are doing what "god" wants them to, by killing others.

Random Fact: the US could have had 51 states. when England disowned Newfoundland, both Canada and the United States wanted it. apparently, the worst thing we could've done was join with Canada, and the best would have been to join the US.

lol....no comment....


can anyone here answer these questions?(note:these are not addressed at sara, or durendal.)

1. how do you feel about kerry trashing the usa after he got back from vietnam. and now wearing his service there(where he "saw all kinds of unhumain acts" and didnt do anything to stop them....even though he was a officer.....until he got back) on his arms......

2. what is something positive about kerry that you like?

3. why do you think you can trust him with this country's safety?

4.how do you feel about his proposed tax hikes for the"wealthy"?

5.abortion?

6.preserving mariage between one man and one woman....kerry/bush????

sara13987 - August 9, 2004 11:55 PM (GMT)
alright, thanks shadow. i just needed some of those questions answered.

and about the 20/50 states thing ;) .... how many of the americans here know all of the provinces in Canada without looking them up? most people don't..... i know the names of most of the states because of some American geography program i had on my comp when i was 8. its figuring out where most of them are is the problem..... :lol:

Axem Titanium - August 10, 2004 12:26 AM (GMT)
I would vote for Powell, if he would run for office. He's just wierd like that though.

Random Fact: Nader was kicked out of the Green Party because he took too many votes away from Gore in the 2000 election.

DragonStrife - August 10, 2004 03:18 AM (GMT)
I hate both!!! Its just anyone but kerry.

sara13987 - August 10, 2004 02:28 PM (GMT)
i've thought up the best way ever to vote~!~!! vote for the person who has the least amount of signs up~!~! maybe then they'll get the point and stop wasting signs <_<

Lionheart - August 10, 2004 08:49 PM (GMT)
all i can say is....i respect sara's views as she can at least say more than "i hate bush"...and sara.....i can't...lol......but the embarassing truth is, im not sure if all americans know what all the 50 states are....

random fact: i dont vote yet*bummed* but dats ok*biggrin*

sara13987 - August 10, 2004 10:30 PM (GMT)
thanks. i respect your opinion too, shadow.

:lol: i didnt expect many people to know that. here:

random facts:

*(canadian provinces west to east) British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Ontario, Quebec, New Brunswick (sp?), Prince Edward Island (P.E.I.), Nova Scotia, and Newfoundland and Labrador

*(canadian territories west to east) Yukon Territory, Northwest Territories, and Nunavut.

alana136 - August 12, 2004 11:06 PM (GMT)
Well we Canadians don't care much for american politics eh? hehe.
I really only care about stuff that affects NF. I think mabey a hundred years down the road if man kind has not died off, that NF. will be very primary and cut off. and all the people are living like Random Passage if the fishery ever recovers. Most likely it wont because our stupid goverment let all the other people fish off our banks and now the fish are going. And they wont kill the seals.

NF. could be great if the goverment would let us keep the money from the resorses we have, like Alberta did.... <_<
And now all the parents keep saying something (no offence) about the american farmers trying to move in and sell their products and distroy the Canadian farmers market.

my life as a politicly confused NF. teenager. Its not that great...

Lionheart - August 13, 2004 12:59 AM (GMT)
ahhh.....your back..........WELCOME BACK!!!!......and they(american farmers) probably are....

Fifth Fang - August 13, 2004 10:10 PM (GMT)
i really don't care.
i'm just sitting back and seeing how this works out.........

Lionheart - August 14, 2004 12:23 PM (GMT)
thats probably all any of us can do.......as (for the main part) none of us can vote...

strikeraider827 - August 14, 2004 12:33 PM (GMT)
I will say again, abb!!!! Actually, I vote GORE!!!!!!

Lionheart - August 14, 2004 12:52 PM (GMT)
could you state some reasons?

strikeraider827 - August 14, 2004 12:59 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (shadow @ Aug 14 2004, 12:52 PM)
could you state some reasons?

Yes. I don't like Bush. I don't like what he's doing to the economy, I don't like how he thinks he is so much better than everyone because of his dad being a former President. I don't like stupid Republicans ranting about all this stuff that democrats are stupid and such. I'm sick of all is Pro-life <blocked>, and he's wasting the nations money with his insane plots. LEAVE IRAQ BE. Do they want us there, no. Should we be there, no. Are americans idiots, yes, we are. Do i listen to Howard Stern, HELL YEAH! I am for ABB. And my final reason, Everyone around me is Republican and likes OSu, so i gotta make myself seen! I WILL NOT BECOME REPUBLICAN!!

Lionheart - August 15, 2004 01:36 AM (GMT)
any facts?

what is he doing to the economy?

pro life? thats bad.....i mean you just said it was "pro life" does that mean pro "choice" is pro death?

am i an idiot? NO!!!! is America the best nation to live in right now? yes
why? because 1.we have freedom of speech. 2.we have freedom of religion....that means i can be a "christian" and you can be a athiest...and nobody can tell us we have to be islamic. or vice versa....<edit> also, i can by working hard make my dreams come true.... i can raise a family how i want....</edit>

why should we leave iraq be?

not everyone around me is republician.....but i make my decisions on what i believe....not my emotions.

strikeraider827 - August 15, 2004 01:45 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (shadow @ Aug 15 2004, 01:36 AM)
not everyone around me is republician.....but i make my decisions on what i believe....not my emotions.

Well ur lucky. For me, I'm beaten up because I say I don't believe in God or I am not a Republican.

Lionheart - August 15, 2004 01:50 AM (GMT)
lol......i got beat up enough when little to grow a thick skin......so i can easily take some backtalk....but just make sure you think your views through all the way...and don't just feel one way because you want to make a identity for yourself by being different......and no i don't believe in blindly following either..........seen to much of it........

strikeraider827 - August 15, 2004 01:53 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (shadow @ Aug 15 2004, 01:50 AM)
lol......i got beat up enough when little to grow a thick skin......so i can easily take some backtalk....but just make sure you think your views through all the way...and don't just feel one way because you want to make a identity for yourself by being different......and no i don't believe in blindly following either..........seen to much of it........

okay then. I really don't know what i'm talking about completely. Not much for politics. I just think that Bush is a donkey. Sending letters to soldiers asking them to help him in his time of need and serving HIM. Yes, he did that. There is proof, I'm not sure where though...

Lionheart - August 15, 2004 01:59 AM (GMT)
hmmmm....was he talking as in country.. or personal....cause lots of past generals have done the same...and he is the commander in chief...

strikeraider827 - August 15, 2004 02:03 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (shadow @ Aug 15 2004, 01:59 AM)
hmmmm....was he talking as in country.. or personal....cause lots of past generals have done the same...and he is the commander in chief...

no no no, in the letters, he had something stating that the soldiers should join his church, worshipping God and his second, GW Bush. I HAVE PROOF THAT BUSH HAS THE Evil (Ever-Villian-is-Lemons) GENE, LIKE HITLER, OR NEPOLEON, OR WALT DISNEY!!!!

sara13987 - August 15, 2004 02:08 AM (GMT)
alright, i have to jump into this conversation now, sorry. since when is Walt Disney "Evil (Ever-Villian-is-Lemons)"? i dont see anything wrong with Mickey Mouse or Donald Duck. they're just cute ^_^




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