What is our worth? I shall tell you. We have none. All humans can do is ruin the world. All we do is destroy this planet by polluting and using weapons of mass human nature. Mass Detruction is a phrase that describes human nature. It is all we can do. None of us have any worth. The planet would be better without us. We are all terrorists. We destroy, steal, lie, and conquer. We all lie, we're taught to lie by everything. All we have ever done is ruin and cause havok. We have destroyed civilizations and dance and sung of happiness over bloody carcasses. Nothing is left to prove that the past ever happened. Do we have anyone who has seen the original 13 colonies defeat the British? Can you prove that George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, or Ben Franklin lived? There is no proof of anything. The sooner we wipe out ourselves, the better. There are three types of people in the world. The ones who follow these veiws, the ones who know but disbileive my truths and the absolute clueless. I'd like to see how many of you understand the truths of us, or Chapter Black.

if we were not here the world would not be better, it would not be our world, it would not have society, nothing but animals and humid screwed up climate, humans evolved to have emotion, hate, love, greed, is what keeps us alive, a perfect society, where no one lied, no one hated, everyone was perfect, belief in that is true denial, we are greedy
we are selfish
our nature is bloody painful and bad
but there are still those of use who will rise above this
those who will go beyond out doubts of the past
there are good people, the people who deny all claims
the people who take that extra step to make this world better
I ask you: which is the ideal society

1. one where we cannot ridicule insult or hate, one with no humor, but no one minds, a perfect society has no joy, because the joy of some will always spur the hate of others, perfection is emotionless

2. the old society, the one where everyone had to be good, if you weren't they tortured you, there were evils meant for those who would rise, when you defied common belief it meant death, but the deaths of those have spurred us to approach from different sides, less and less people have seen the world as black and white

3. the one we live in today, the one with war, hate and greed, the one everyone thinks we must be wiped out for, but what do you miss, I'll tell you

the laughter that keeps us alive, the happiness we dwell on, others joy can be harmful to others, but nonetheless it is still happiness, in this world we have emotion, and people who are not afraid to express it, when we fight for the expression to be less harmful, for joy to be good for most, we are fighting for what perfection really is, emotion that can be expressed without harm, the hate will always live, the greater the love the stronger the hate, but it will forever fuel us to go on, to keep fighting, and never back down


oi, if you managed to read that I commend you

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My point exactly! We've grown to be lazy and worthless! Humans must die, and I believe we should all help. How can humans us nuclear bombs on the innocent? How can we kill people because of their background? HOW CAN WE! None of us will ever become better. We all will die, so why try?

i believe this is the time i come in :P

we will never become better if no one tries to change. there are, though, some people who see this and are trying to change the world for the better. the only person you can change is yourself. i think that by being as nice and fair as you possibly can, you're changing the world, even if it's only a bit. if everyone saw that, and tried to change themselves for the better, that would be a big change. no one can to try to change everyone, but everyone can change themselves.

There are three major philosophers on Human Nature:
1. Russou-All people are naturally good.
2. Locke-People are a clean slate at birth, and it depends on how they're brought up.
3. (i forgot his name)-All people are naturally bad, and it takes civilization to make them good.

No, by being nice you give the enemies their strength. People try being nice, but they are treated like <blocked> because of their niceness. Humans are worthless, simple as that. Humans can't change, they just put up masks. All humans are the same. We are equal as slime.

no, strike. that's not true. by being nice, you have very few enemies, and the ones who are are probably mean-spirited to begin with. i can't see any way that by being nice, you are giving your enemies their strength; i think you're actually giving them less to work with. I'd honestly rather be treated the way you speak of and be nice, than be mean and have eveyone hate me anyways. that's my opinion.

humans can change. its just most people either dont have the courage to do it, or think that they can't.

They cannot change you foolish Optimist! Once we all are dead, then life will become happy. Humans have no worth.

i may be an optimist as of this moment, but alot of times i am also pesimistic. i've changed the way i am several times; i'm no longer violent, for example. sometimes, i may start getting a bit violent-- like throwing candy i dont like-- but i calm myself down as soon as the sugar wears off. i think that's the main reason why i not very hyper anymore.


calm down, strike, i didnt post any of this to attack you in any way. :(

If that is so strike, then the only way life can be happy is if man is destroyed. But if man is destroyed, so will animals and all other forms of life. According to you, the only way life can be happy is if there is no life.

No. If humanity was wiped out, then the planet would yet again prosper. Animals wouldn't be slain and the rainforest would stay as it should.

if you believe that then there is no point in argueing, but if you think that humans should die, then why haven't you killed yourself yet? we can change, as long as our ignorance remains translucent, we will be able to come over top of it, when the ignorance is no longer penetrable, then we will die, but for now, let us build a better world

Because, I must teach you fools. We cannot build a better world.

you will not get us to commit suicide for your stupid beliefs, the human race is not a lost cause

no no no....suicide isn't correct. It's mass murder of which I speak.

whatever, we can murder all the people in your self-made hell and then maybe you'll wake up and come to what we're talking about, we don't speak of the same reality, you live in what you create, your mind makes fixed views, and yours is set on that of uselessness, so destroy all the people down in lala land's hell and then I'll talk to you again

Hmm? Do you know what we as humans have done? I'm 5/8 German...Hitler is a relitive of mine..directly....generations of repent has done nothing, nothing to help.

Hitler was an exception, he was an animal. An animal that kills without a cause.........
He was a <blocked> up <blocked>!

but I'm related to him....

that makes up a slightly less <blocked> up person

see? You think you are better then me. WE ARE ALL EQUAL AS TRASH.

no offense, but hitler is an exception to mankind. Just because you're related to him or not does not make him any better. He massacred millions, and then when he was caught, was too cowardly to face the consequences so he killed himself!

actually, you're looking down on us, saying human life has no point, and that you only live on to teach us "fools"

no, he is horrioble, I'm worsening myself, not bettering him

...just because you're related to someone doesn't make you just like them. you may have some of the same traits, but that doesnt mean you're the same.

alright, this topic is depressing me horribly. im gonna stop replying now.

That's the point. My experiment worked. Only one of you gave in. I was just showing a different point of veiw.

...what? what were you trying to prove? (okay, i lied about the not replying part. i knew i was gonna end up replying again. -_- )

That you have to look at the extremists point of veiw.

hmm so it was an experiment, and I was about to suspend you from the LUE forum.....

But why? And I didn't say it wasn't true.

*burps* Ya'll gotta start goin with the flow. Humans are on the Great Mother Earth, and no rebbelions going to change that. But thats just my thoughts. Peace brothers

you are wrong!

dude I am so shrinkin that and smileyfyin it

grr...

I think this is where i should step in I think about this very often.

I agree with you on many terms strike but I also disagree with many things and will bring a few new things into thought. Yes humans are destroying this planet and we are all weak because we all die in the end. The human race on the most part is weak, most are just self-indulgent fools who live for nothing more than pleasure and greed. There are people that are different though that strive to be better and not give into such things. If you really think that the perfect society is total apathy then we would all feel nothing we would all do the same mindless tasks every day forever untill we die, we would all look the same, and we would all be equelly intelligent. This is not the way the world should be people are different some are bad and some are better. It is all how you choose to live your lives. If humans died maybe the world would be better maybe not we don't really know. There are many different things that effect this topic but I believe the truth is that there cannot be a perfect society because there will always be people who look at it as imperfect and those who look at it as perfect what you really must do is just try and find what you believe is perfect and live according to that untill you die.

FC if you banned strike for stating his beliefs here i would have to warn you that is what the LUE forum is for is it not?

If you have any questions ask im not very good at adressing everything at once.

How am I wrong?

We are all here and it is possible for the human race to go extinct and then we would not be on earth.

NO! We are all equal!

If we are all equel then we would be all the same your statement is untrue.

no, no one is better than anyone else.