:hopping: Here is the problem: I have 4 matches that have been waiting for a judge for over a week. I have made all attempts to have these matches judged yet not a one will judge. They are in signature.

Am I being ignored or something ? Seriusly I mean its been a week I would expect at least one of the matches judged by now... Anyhow they are shown on signature so all you have to do is go there.


B) so to be fair heres how you could fix the problem:
I think we need a thread to post match requests or something becouse evidently pms and the ones that do have match requests arn't doing the judgeing.

Why don't we have a section of the board dedicaded to requests for matches, and subsection for each arena. Wile sure the bribe our judge system is good its getting rather irritating that they are refusing to judge and the poor arbieters are being overworked.

There rofl ^_^ a complaint and a request...

Well matches usually take awhile to get judged. The judges dont need to judge a match. If your havin a problem, become a judge and get some RNs from someone. Problem solved, thats what I usually did for my matches.

*deep breath*

Complaints about judging have been posted several times, and I feel no need to repeat myself. I'll keep it brief:

-- No, you are not being ignored. I, for one, am not in the mood to work, most times.

-- The forum dedicated to judge requests would, in my opinion, not work out. It would just be another forum that I don't read.

-- People have reasons to refuse to judge. They could be busy, overworked*, upset (how often does that happen to me? -_- ), have many battles already in line to be judged, etc, etc.

I say, if you can't wait a while for something to be judged, then you should either get the rn's and judge it yourself (you wouldn't believe how often I've been asked by judges to judge their battles), or apply to be a judge.

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* this does not always need to refer to judging itself. If I had a hard day at school, I wouldn't want to work more when I got home. The older you get, it seems the more tests, projects, and school/homework you get. The older judges don't seem to have time to judge as much as the younger. Coincidence?
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And, please, this is all my opinion, so don't come back all defensive like I've insulted you personally (this goes for anyone). I really don't mean to offend anyone, but try to get my point across.... -_-

or just offer silly amonts like i do.

I only judge battles PM'd to me(plenty of those) and ones posted in my furom Trace's Arbiter Request. teh FEW Chat has a few topics for request if you ddidn't notice. Post there or PM someone.

We currently have three very competent Arbiters, and the three of them combined as of yet have judged more battles than the majority of the regular judges combined.

I suppose this problem has to contribute to general laziness, but as we have said many times-- we do have other things to do, you know.

Oh, and a small note that was also addressed very recently-- the Forum Team does not like to judge. We have a great many deals of other things related to FEW that we have to work on, and we cannot keep on stopping to judge battles for you. I'm sorry.

I know that as of now the battles are getting backed up. The arbiters havn't been around for long though, so they will eventually catch up and then they won't be overworked. I for one now have only about an hour to two hours online a day. It's hard as it is to make time to get online, and I don't want to waste my only free time judging battles, when I could be creating other things for FEW.

Ahem. What are we creating right now, again?

Basically, I'm saying that right now we're held up with a war technicality. <_<

That's why I wish Axem would give me the test. I have TONS of free time, and due to that,the potential to judge even more than Trace is. But I've gotta wait :(

No no the problem is i did wait. OVER A WEEK lol. I think that is ample enough time for a judge or arbigter to judge a match is it not. Well I know people have other things to do besides judging. Just there is at least some expectation.

However I was just saying its been a bit annoying. Thats why having it as a board is a better idea becouse then all we gotta do is post the match in that thread you can even limit the number of battles a week a player can battle so that it has some control and a bit more teamwork then getting fustraited will zillions of pms when you don't have the time.

Like sara said

I mean it aint that I am not being impachent lordy a week is ample enough time, trace told me I should at least wait normally for 2 or 3 days. Besides it gets bothersome having to pm a zillion judges to get one match done. Which even sara you must admit can be irriating to have constantly to be pmed by players requesting constantly for matches judged.

Here was what I had ment when I said put in a judge request board:
Start a thread for each day then when a player posts a match up on the arena for that day. That way all the judge has to do is look through the list, pick a match, do it and post it on that thread like normal. Then post back that you did that match.

Then instead of players pming for judges or aribighters who are overworked they can set it by a day to day basis and all the judges can take more of the workload since they got a thread to see all the matches of that day.

All a judge would have to do was check the oldest day to see if matches are unfinished and go from there and after all the matches for that day have been judged you can lock the thread and delete it or what ever.

Anyhow I was just saying a quicker way of doing this instead of being fragment and worry about players being impachent and sorts. (Players would post thier match links in that days thread)

Umm I don't see what is so hard about this and also the lack of judges is do to the slow process of delay on responces from the admin to accept the judge test. From what I herd it can be weeks before they get a responce weither they are accepted or not.

:blink: so what do you think about it now ? I mean at least thats a way to organize it so all the judges can work more as a team instead of the "i am lazy pm me" additude, they don't even have to delete the pms and stuff they can just check the board do some matches get payed by you ivan and there ya go everythings hunky dory.

Like I said any comments and stuff on this ? I think it aint too much to ask for personally and not as time demanding as it looks.

You know Ken Ki, if your that mad, I could probably end up just judging the match for you.

lol i probly edited that last post 3 or 4 times, anyhow if you want to go ahead. I'll pm them to ya. Sorry the first post sounded a bit more ranty anyhow hope my request looks better.

Man you gotta wait.Just ask them to judge it in pieces if the judges don't have time.

lol i did over a week.

All those matches I had were made on april 3rd, today is april 15th.

No judge in pieces meaning they do some and later do the rest.And make sure you track the PM to see if they read it yet.

anyhow ^_^ just was posting a request after the complaint was seeing the responce.

Im very sorry that you are not getting your battles judged. i would advise you to become a judge, and help fix the problem that way.

thank you.

Actually, this isn't a bad idea. The reason why judges say to PM them requests is because they don't want to go through topics looking for fights to judge.

Very true. -_-

look dude, like Sara and Karn and 'Ivan have so politely stated, we just tend not to have time to judge battles now that we have more and more things to do. It just works out that way. It's the only reason I haven't tried out to become an Arbiter. I simply do not have the time... well, just wait, it annoys the rest of us as well you know.

Please, make this new board. The reason for the sigs that say "PM me to get judged" and the topics that say "judge requests" are so that the judge doesn't have to go through topics looking for unjudged fights. This would eliminate that and make it so that any judge has the option to judge the fight. If you request via. PM or post in something like "Matthew's Judge Request", only one person can do it since other judges can't see the request.

If you make it, you will get fights judged quicker and eliminate the PM requests and judge request topics.

But, also, pm'ing has its highlights, as well as the judging topics. By knowing that one, and only one, judge is going to judge it, judges don't have to waste their valuable time judging a battle that someone else may be judging at the same time. You don't know how annoying it is having judged a battle, and find out that someone else had done it just before you. PM's make it much easier to eliminate this problem.

Post that you will do it before you judge.

I think that the topic could be useful. If someone wants to make it they can.

Give a hand to Ken Ki who motivated the new find a judge system.*Claps*

Ya, I was planning on doing plenty of judging, but poor AT's been overworked and apperently has a dying connection, so he can't judge my test yet, even though I finished it and checked it over. Luckily, I saved it in notepad, so if he needs it again I can send it.

We could have two boards , 1 for judge tests reminding staff they have not been graded. As well as my other idea, ivan we can have some leeway in this.

Well we could have the board be like if the match has not been judged "by so many days" they can post a request in that board for arbiters and other judges so that they will be done. That way "no being pushy and they showed they were pachent". I mean we could have it say if a match aint judged in 3 days or so. Like I said up to you guys.

Sometimes you guys forget people from time to time when you judge i bet so this can serve as a reminder and you can post what matches you are doing it.

I mean i don't see this being a hostile idea or anything as a request just sort of a way to get more control over the buildup with no one being ticked off.

What do you think on just that at least ?

We could have it where if not that like matthew said each judge gets thier own thread and players make judge requests there from time to time and the judge posts what is currently being judged. Pms see is a problem in a way as well lets say you respond and say "i accept to judge" then somethen comes up and you deleted the pm.

Totally forgetting the match, the requestee sort of feels, do i remind the judge now or not couse i don't wanna sound pushy but at the same time I want to have my matched judged. They ask other judges, no responce or anything "through pm" so its kinda like.. umm what is going on... I think we should have a time rule as well to this ya know.

I mean a timeframe where if a judge posts they accept but have not judged a person can remind that judge agian. If no responce agian then free to ask other judges. How about that ?