Title: Cloning
Description: is it right?
strikeraider827 - April 22, 2005 11:44 PM (GMT)
I think it's a good idea, but only to help heal cancer, heart disease, world hunger, etc. Full human cloning could be dangerous, or dictators could create a super army(highly unlikely, but a possibility)
Trace Stratus - April 22, 2005 11:51 PM (GMT)
Cloning nead parts is a great idea but full cloning of animals and humans can be dangerous. The ones cloned so far haven't live much past a year, and I don't agree the fact of cloning a living being, it's like a perversion of nature itself and unethical to the cloned being.
strikeraider827 - April 22, 2005 11:55 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Trace Stratus @ Apr 22 2005, 04:51 PM) |
| Cloning nead parts is a great idea but full cloning of animals and humans can be dangerous. The ones cloned so far haven't live much past a year, and I don't agree the fact of cloning a living being, it's like a perversion of nature itself and unethical to the cloned being. |
I think cloning can be good. Just read my school report on it.
Genetic Cloning
On February 23, 1997, several scientists in Edinburgh, Scotland successfully cloned a sheep, Dolly. Dolly lived until February 14, 2003, almost seven years after being ‘born’. This raised debates on the ethics of cloning research and the long term health of clone subjects. I believe that genetic cloning should be allowed to continue its work to improve the world. With genetic cloning, we can cure deadly diseases such as cancers, make certain surgeries safer, and also solve the issue of world hunger.
Through genetic cloning we can cure and prevent cancers, heart disease, and organ failure. With enough funding and time, scientists will learn how to turn cells on and off through cloning. This and studying exactly why cells differentiate into different types of tissue will put us on the track to curing cancer once and for all. One of the first benefits of genetic cloning is that we will be able to clone healthy marrow for people suffering from leukemia from their own bodies, so donors will no longer be needed. Heart disease the number one major killer of Americans; someone dies every 34 seconds from heart disease. We will be able to cure heart disease by cloning healthy heart cells and injecting them into the area of the heart that have been damaged, allowing for the healthy cells to heal the damaged area. Finally, through cloning, we will be able to one day clone entire working kidneys, livers, hearts, and possibly brains. This will virtually end the need for organ donors for people who have experienced organ failure.
Plastic, reconstructive, and cosmetic surgery can be done safer without silicone and other foreign materials. Over 37 chemicals can be found in silicone gel, including Urethane, Polyvinyl Chloride (Liquid Vinyl), Formaldehyde (used to preserve dead bodies), and many other neurotoxins. With the latest technology, it would be possible to manufacture bone, fat, connective tissues, and cartilage that match the patient perfectly. Anyone will be able to fix their appearance without having to worry about silicone gel leaking into their system or other related problems. Accident victims whose faces or limbs that were at one time deformed now are able to have their features repaired with a new, safer technology. Finally, limbs that had to be completely amputated could have their limbs regenerated from cloning cells in their body.
World hunger can be ended as an epidemic by improving the crops of the world through genetic improvements. Today our world houses 6.39 billion people, and 852 million people across the world are hungry right now. That’s 13.3 percent of the world’s total population without proper food. Chronic undernourishment and vitamin or mineral deficiencies, which result in stunted growth, weakness and heightened susceptibility to illness, are dilemmas that most poor people who battle hunger deal with. Through genetic modifications, several scientists helped the world with their studies to stop this epidemic. Norman Borlaug created a breed of wheat with strong disease resistance, high yield potential, and the ability to survive poor growing conditions. Surinder Vasal of India developed corn with twice the usable protein of normal corn. Also, genetically modified foods can have extra vitamins and minerals to help the impoverished with vitamin and mineral deficiencies. Finally, potatoes, tomatoes, bananas, and other fruits and vegetables have been genetically improved to contain vaccines to diseases like Hepatitis B. These inexpensive vaccines, most costing less than a dollar, not only feed these impoverished, but also protect them from a variety of deadly diseases.
In conclusion, through this essay I have hopefully opened your eyes to the positive features of genetic cloning and why it is an almost limitless way to save millions of lives.
Trace Stratus - April 23, 2005 12:01 AM (GMT)
I think you miss read my post. I said cloning needed parts is good, just not a living thing. Cloning parts needed for others to live is amazingly helpful, but cloning a living creature to replace a lost family member or the such is something I'm against.
EDIT-Great report. ;)
grondring - April 23, 2005 12:01 AM (GMT)
You know, this happens to be one of the few topics that remains unresolved in my mind. I'll have my decision to you in a day or two.
strikeraider827 - April 23, 2005 12:58 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Trace Stratus @ Apr 22 2005, 05:01 PM) |
I think you miss read my post. I said cloning needed parts is good, just not a living thing. Cloning parts needed for others to live is amazingly helpful, but cloning a living creature to replace a lost family member or the such is something I'm against.
EDIT-Great report. ;) |
Thanks, I turn it in Monday.
And Grondy, make your weekly artile about it, then I'll be sure to read it.
Severian - April 23, 2005 01:34 AM (GMT)
I should note that Genetic Cloning (by which I'm pretty sure you mean genetic engineering) and cloning are not the same. Genetic engineering is changing the genetic structure of something by removing and inserting genetic material. For instance, you could take out genes causing various genetic disorders. However, a believed danger is that genetic engineering could allow terrorists to manufacture superdiseases-I've no idea how plausible this idea is, but still worth mentioning I suppose. Not to mention that the wrath of ye olde god could come down on us for such violations of our divine place on earth and whatever.
Cloning, in specific, is just making a genetic copy of someone else. I believe the way they do it is to remove all the genes in a fetus, and replace them with the DNA from the person/animal being cloned. However, the aged cells automatically age the body as well, and thus the clone of the sheep dolly aged at an advanced rate, dying several years after birth.
As for the information of genetically engineered food, this would not necessarily end world hunger, as we would still have the same amount of food-the vegetables don't just pop out of thin air, they still have to be grown. However, it would make the food last longer as well, giving them a longer shelf life and leading to less waste of food. Sadly, these have not done well in the US (see FLAVR SAVR tomatoes).
There is some debate about how genetically engineered people would be treated, and there are countless books, movies, and so on dealing with this issue. The most famous is probably the 1950's (I think) book Brave New World.
strikeraider827 - April 23, 2005 01:40 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Mr Bucket @ Apr 22 2005, 06:34 PM) |
| Cloning, in specific, is just making a genetic copy of someone else. I believe the way they do it is to remove all the genes in a fetus, and replace them with the DNA from the person/animal being cloned. However, the aged cells automatically age the body as well, and thus the clone of the sheep dolly aged at an advanced rate, dying several years after birth. |
But in my cases, it's cloning the healthy cells and tissues and using them to cure diseases.
Severian - April 24, 2005 04:12 AM (GMT)
Ya, I know I've seen some stuff on cloned heart tissue, but I've never really followed up to see how successful the research is going. I thought I heard that it's been successfully used on animals, but I'm not really clear on that at all.
strikeraider827 - April 24, 2005 12:00 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Mr Bucket @ Apr 23 2005, 09:12 PM) |
| Ya, I know I've seen some stuff on cloned heart tissue, but I've never really followed up to see how successful the research is going. I thought I heard that it's been successfully used on animals, but I'm not really clear on that at all. |
It's been successful up to the point of testing it on humans.
Míxtil_<3_fish! - April 25, 2005 06:10 PM (GMT)
i agree whith cloning certain boy parts, but it goes horribly wrong fairly often. i was trying to find pics, but there where none on the net. cows whith udders 2M wide, and stuff..
Kiyoshi - April 26, 2005 11:33 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (strikeraider827 @ Apr 22 2005, 03:44 PM) |
| I think it's a good idea, but only to help heal cancer, heart disease, world hunger, etc. Full human cloning could be dangerous, or dictators could create a super army(highly unlikely, but a possibility) |
SUPER ARMY!!!!!!!
Trace Stratus - April 27, 2005 12:09 AM (GMT)
SUPER SPAM!! XD jk :ihavepie: :ph43r:
If that was possible then they'd also take in consideration to manipulate the DNA to produce strong, agile, and highly intellegent clones. O.O *scary*
Severian - April 27, 2005 01:02 AM (GMT)
Ya, rather than cloning an actual person (Jango Fett would be a recognizable example) the best option would be to make genetically engineered super soldiers-naturally, you'd have a few different types based on what the soldiers position and role in the army would be.
Míxtil_<3_fish! - April 27, 2005 03:30 PM (GMT)
like people who sprouted spines along their backs by splicing lizzard DNA in.
strikeraider827 - April 27, 2005 08:51 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (mixtil @ Apr 27 2005, 08:30 AM) |
| like people who sprouted spines along their backs by splicing lizzard DNA in. |
Please leave now or else. Gene Splicing is something I'm completely and totally against.
Karn - April 28, 2005 04:53 AM (GMT)
Cloning is an efficient way of human production, although I do not think that we need any more humans. It is good for an army though, and to create a perfect culture.
Míxtil_<3_fish! - April 28, 2005 03:50 PM (GMT)
why are you against splicing?
Trace Stratus - April 28, 2005 08:28 PM (GMT)
By that time there will also by cybernization and maybe some cyborbs and andriods. then everything turns "Ghost in the Shell" on us all! XD
Severian - April 29, 2005 02:14 AM (GMT)
If any scientist is stupid enough to actually creat AI, then humanity is probably screwed.
Trace Stratus - April 30, 2005 12:22 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
| If any scientist is stupid enough to actually creat AI, then humanity is probably screwed. |
they already have.
Severian - April 30, 2005 04:00 PM (GMT)
I mean something that not only builds data on what it's done already, but has free will, and also has the ability to impact the world (not just an experiment). But still, that worries me.
Trace Stratus - April 30, 2005 05:54 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
| I mean something that not only builds data on what it's done already, but has free will, and also has the ability to impact the world (not just an experiment). But still, that worries me. |
yeah, it would be like A.I. and the Matrix!
Severian - May 1, 2005 02:18 AM (GMT)
Yes, except hopefully we'd have the science fiction short story versions of the matrix that I've read in anthologies, rather than the movie Matrix, because then we'd have to deal with Neo. That would be very painful, mentally, I don't think I could stand to talk to him for 2 minutes.
Trace Stratus - May 1, 2005 06:45 PM (GMT)
I would kill him by surprise and become the one. :mellow:
AI with "Ghost" as they say in GitS would be preaty creapy, exspecially if they start feelign misused and want revenge. ><
Hippie - May 2, 2005 09:04 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (strikeraider827 @ Apr 22 2005, 06:44 PM) |
| I think it's a good idea, but only to help heal cancer, heart disease, world hunger, etc. Full human cloning could be dangerous, or dictators could create a super army(highly unlikely, but a possibility) |
my views on the matter exactly.
alana136 - May 2, 2005 06:30 PM (GMT)
I think that cloning is a good thing if done right. I mean if your dying and you need a new liver or something they can clone you a new liver and give it to you without having to wait for a person to donate the right one.
Wild Arms - May 30, 2005 05:39 PM (GMT)
i don't think cloning is right. why because can the world handle two sexy beast like me.
Nate - May 30, 2005 07:31 PM (GMT)
Seems like something Sain would say... But anyway why clone stuff the original is still the better one.
Missy_Roxx_Meh_Soxx - June 15, 2005 08:28 PM (GMT)
I think cloning is wrong and against all Christiain values.
Míxtil_<3_fish! - June 15, 2005 08:38 PM (GMT)
but what if god's life could only be saved with stem cells from a clone of him?
Severian - June 18, 2005 01:12 AM (GMT)
Umm, that might convince anyone who thinks God can die in any way, Mixtil, so actually I guess Christians might support it in that light. Then again, that's really just Jesus' ascendence, not death, and I guess he technically could have just stayed on Earth if he wanted to.
Anyway, Jesus always practiced nonintervention in Rome, despite disagreements he had with their government. Going by that, Christians should follow his example and just not do cloning and genetic engineering themselves. Oh well.
Míxtil_<3_fish! - June 21, 2005 06:04 PM (GMT)
senor buket, i think the christians might just go mad instead of support it.