Title: one mans terrorist is anothers freedom fighter
Description: what do you think?
Míxtil_<3_fish! - April 25, 2005 06:15 PM (GMT)
do you agree whith this sttement?
example:
on another board, i made a thread about yasser arafat's death. the difference in opinion was amazing. americans said "great, a terrorist is dead. the peace process can finally be finished. he walked into the UN whith a assult rifle, for <blocked>s sake!"
wheres brits generally said "oh deer, funky shit is going to happen. israels gonna invade pasestine. shit. the peace process is <blocked>ed."
you see?
Sword master lloyd - April 25, 2005 06:36 PM (GMT)
Cause british are completly paranoid
about terrorism second only to the election!
Iris - April 25, 2005 08:42 PM (GMT)
Yea, he's right, we are. We are darn proud of it too. If we wern't so paranoid we would be dead by now.
Severian - April 25, 2005 08:53 PM (GMT)
Well anyone who said Yasser Arafat was the only obstacle for peace between Palestine and Israel is dead wrong, that's for sure.
I doubt his death is going to help either extreme-I don't remember exactly when the change occured, but he was certainly less important than, say Muhammed Abbas, during his more recent years. His death certainly doesn't mean an invasion from Israel, and it doesn't mean that the arabs will now seek peace. Rarely does a single leader control the ideals of their people so firmly that their death completely collapses those ideals.
Maybe Arafat is "One man's freedom fighter and another's terrorist" due to the views of people, but both of those people would be wrong. Unless you really believe the destruction of Israel is the goal, then Arafat is not your man, and to think that Arafat is the only Palestinian-let alone world leaders in general-who can inspire hate in a country/people/etc. is also wrong.
Phoenix - April 25, 2005 09:51 PM (GMT)
It's sort of good, since like, he hated peace and wanted to keep fighting, but on the other hand, Bush isn't doing anything to help either, just invade a bystander and kill a thousand Americans.....
Severian - April 26, 2005 12:09 AM (GMT)
Well, I wouldn't agree with those exact words, but I'm far too lazy to politick right now. I'm not for Bush or the War in Iraq, though, if that's enough to dissuade any arguers (though I'm sure there are some pro Bush people on this Board, my general experience with gamers is that most are more liberal).
Whatever. I don't think the death of Yasser Arafat is going to help cool or heat the "fires of war".
Míxtil_<3_fish! - April 26, 2005 03:24 PM (GMT)
umm..yasser arafat was an example. i meant discuss the phrase. do you think it is right, or not?
Ken_Ki - April 26, 2005 05:35 PM (GMT)
You for got about the drug cartel, all the mobster orginations, even ourselfs.
Rember when we were a young baby america way back in the hayday when we were a part of england we had did the simmler aspects. Maybe we are the reason these terrists do what they do becouse we back then did the same thing to england.
For those who don't know in the souther states some of the millita's used to do a ton of hit and run operations agisnt the british supply lines. British would constute us as terrists becouse we had not followed the rules of war until later on.
Next in history the french did the same to maria and they ate thier cake of course hehe. They just litterlly stormed up and took over the place there was no military or anything they just took the palace and conqured it. Like how we know in a fue middle eastern amisty buildings.
As the sands come england tryed and invaded us yada yada, However we had also the luisiana purchase. Threating the indians and giving them no say in the matter just like terrorists. Once we got to origan and washinton , We threatened britan to give us those territorys or we would take them by force. They not wanting war submitted to us. However then we went south many of our people had migrated to mexico and had bought farm land and things. Soon they got sick and tired of mexican rule so they ousted them.
So see the beef they probley got with us is. Well look at all we did in the past that they are doing now. I mean comparing them to us we would be infidels and hipacrits in so many ways. Anyhow sure that was a bit of a strech but, maybe thats how they got thier terror tactics from ?
Míxtil_<3_fish! - April 26, 2005 06:11 PM (GMT)
yeah, KK has a good example.
Trace Stratus - April 26, 2005 08:46 PM (GMT)
can your paraphrase thta, long post seem to make me want to scroll past it. XD
Míxtil_<3_fish! - April 27, 2005 03:26 PM (GMT)
then you lazy.
do you agree with the statement, thogh?
Trace Stratus - April 27, 2005 09:07 PM (GMT)
Ken_Ki - April 28, 2005 03:31 AM (GMT)
Basically I was saying, we were just like them when we just started as a baby america. Yet now we play the high and mighty act. Also I was showing historical things we as the united states have done historically and are proud of yet no one takes it into consideration.
My dad had when watching nascar had a beef with them saying "god bless america". If we really wanted peace why don't we americans say "god bless the world" instead.
Longest post I mad was about cloneing: Also Iris do you like secret of mana. Sr. Jema owns.
Fifth Fang - April 28, 2005 03:48 AM (GMT)
there are good examples, and bad examples.
Mixtil, you picked a bad example.
How can any normal person call someone a freedom fighter if their main goal in life is to have their people blow themselves up to kill others?
Míxtil_<3_fish! - April 28, 2005 03:48 PM (GMT)
(quote: fith fang)
| QUOTE |
there are good examples, and bad examples. Mixtil, you picked a bad example. How can any normal person call someone a freedom fighter if their main goal in life is to have their people blow themselves up to kill others? |
fith fang unwittingly made himself an example!
Severian - April 29, 2005 02:24 AM (GMT)
In terms of the god bless America thing, I disagree with it. We shouldn't be so general, not everyone in America deserves the blessing of god, let alone ask god to bless every person on earth.
As for the baby America thing, we've always been a fairly important country even before the World Wars. Since the War of 1812, shockwaves of America's existence have reached wide.