is there any reason for us humans to live (no i am not depressed) we have no reason to be here, nothing signficent ever happens, i just feel nothing has a point any more

I dont know why humans ever existed. Its not like we helped the earth at all.

FINALLY!!!!! someone in this forsaken world agress with me

I agree also. Humans damage the world more than helps it. It's sad when you think of it that way.

Our purpose is to live. That's it. Life is life, and you live untill you die. We are driven by our instincts to live, and that is what we do. Humans are sysytems, and instincts are what tell us what to do. All of our instincts are to further our life, so to fulfill your role you must live.

purpose? i have no purpose in life i just sit there taking up space and killing the planat, im like a rock, i never belived in purpose anyways

Thats a boring purpose.

"Hey Bob, whats your purpose?"

"To live Joe, to live."

YAY! This is the perfect time to bring this back up! I do not believe it completely, but still.
Hehe...

what you said and what im saying are almost the same strike ^_^

My point.

So basically, Strike, your point can be summed up like this:
1-Because we damage the world, we have no point.
2-We are all evil-we all steal, conquer, kill, and lie.
3-We have destroyed civilizations.
4-We can't believe the past.

1-So basically, because we damage a bunch of nonsentient species (monkeys, insects, whatever) whose purpose for existence is to exist, we should feel guilty? Besides, don't say we. I'll admit that my existence is certainly draining some of the world's energy, but there are plenty of people working with environmental problems. If damaging nature is something you're concerned with, become a scientist instead of whining.

2-Your second point is wrong. We do not all steal, conquer, and kill. I'm sure most people lie, and while this is a fault it is not a tremendous, irredeemable fault. Maybe you kill, steal, and conquer-I don't, and I generally avoid lying.

3-Don't say we, again. My civilization, America, is built on the destruction of other civilizations, and most other countries are: a-the same; b-Broken civilizations that once were conquerors, or were too weak to manage conquering their enemies; c-Weak nations too weak to ever be enemies to anyone, or dream of taking over other countries. Despite this, I myself am anti-imperialistic, argue against those who support it, and dream for a slightly more peaceful world (not world peace, I'm not that stupid, maybe in another 6 generations).

4-First off, if you don't believe in the past, why do you agonize over the destruction of civilizations? Chances are that nothing is true anyway, so it doesn't matter. Hell, why not go along with everyone who says the Jewish and Armenian Holocausts never happened?

But generally, when I talk with people who think like this, they're too single minded to be swayed, so it's a waste of time to explain in a more in depth manner. If this doesn't strike home at all, then nothing will.

hmm........ i got a question for you bucket, what is your purpose in life, do you do anything worth anything?

I don't have a purpose in life, at least not one that can be explained away. I don't need to define my life with some singleminded goal-I can enjoy building on myself, helping others, and doing entertaining and enjoying things. There isn't some single life goal or meaning I can ascribe to myself, and I don't think there's one you can ascribe to anyone. I don't think humans, as individuals, are that simple. It's only when they group together and lose control that they lose that, and become single minded and destructive, or when they become indifferent to a major issue.

Edit-Whoops, posted too soon. As for "Do you do anything worth anything"...I'm not really sure if I decide if my actions are worth something. I believe they have an affect-I know I've swayed people's thinking before, and I've done things I feel are worthwhile and important. But just because it's worth something to me doesn't mean it'll be worth something to you, or to someone else...so I don't think that changes much anyway.

I have a question for Fenix and Strike, as well as everyone who agrees with them. What is your purpose? If you believe life is so meaningless and worthless, why are you posting these things? What is your purpose? Obviously, you either have none, or you do, so since you believe you don't, why are you posting here?

Your purpose is to live. It doesn't matter if you destroy the world. An nuclear power plant's purpose is to produce power. It destroys the world yet it is still fulfilling it's purpose. The point of the lilim culture, and with that all life, is quite pathetic. However how you choose to live your life is what makes it important. If you can find a way to immortalize your mind then you are ultimatly completing your goal.

ok here is my purpose says me, i whould like to die and finally be at peace, but i can not rest or die intill i have repented for all my sins

Sins are something created by the lilim culture to show how you should live. They have nothing to do with our actual purpose. Do your best job at living, and you shall fulfill yourself. The body is a system. It works togather to live, and when it stops working it has stopped fulfilling it's purpose.

sins, are what keep bound to this earth
and for some reason you seem to remind me of this one guy i know

Actaully, living keeps us bound to this earth ironically. Sins are just a consequence of living.

i consder my self already dead, im like a ghost bound to the earth

so basicly you say humans are inherrently evil?

If you think about it, there is no point for anything out there except to keep us alive Fenix. Why does the Universe exist? Why? Think of the universe as a big house for the human race, or any other species out there somewhere on some planet (if they exist). We dont need to have a purpose except to have fun with life. Otherwise, what would be the point of earth. If there was no lifeforms on it, there would be no point correct? Well we have a point then, to live on earth. If Mars gets hit by a meteor, do we care as much as if earth gets hit by a meteor? Mars has no life, but well, earth does. If Mars did have life though, we might try to stop a meteor from hitting Mars then, now would we? So, our point is to live on the homes that our here for us (such as earth).

You don't have to be bound by sins and laws. Just become sane. Realize those laws don't apply to you, don't limit you, that people may stop you but that in the meantime you can do as you like. That's the mentality of a mass murderer. If nothing is worth anything to you, then no consequence can hold you, nothing can control you-you can do, or at least try to do, whatever you want without worry of any real pain.

But I know I care about other people-there's a meaning to helping them, and sure, it's partially a selfish one, and there's nothing wrong with that.

As for sins having nothing to do with your purpose...well, what sins have you committed Fenix? You don't have to answer if you don't want to, this isn't a confession booth or anything, but seriously-do you really believe yourself to be a horrible person? If so, why? If you feel guilty, and you feel you aren't doing right, then do what you feel is right instead of continuing with whatever sin you commit.

whoa whoa whoa, did you just say sane, i will never become completly sane, and i dont like confessing my sins to anyone in my opnion my sin are my burden alone, and yes i admit i am a horrible person for the things that i do and have done, and do you belive in another live, if so you should be able to put the pieces together

I'm saying that the sanity of the murderer is the realization that you don't have to let anything bother you, and you don't have to listen to the rules-though punishment may someday come.

Once again, I really don't think you should talk about your sins, but all I'm saying is that if you realize they're wrong, why do you keep doing them? And if you've stopped-well, then, you're a changed person. If you don't feel you can redeem yourself, then I pity you, but I wish I could somehow convince you that while wrongs can't be undone, neither can correct actions. If you feel you know what's right now, what stops you from doing it?

nothing can ever and i mean ever be undone, so after ive done what ive done thats it, i still have to carry that sin, i whould love to reddem my self, but i cant for reasons in which you probaly whouldnt belive