Title: Point of the whatever
'Ivan - May 1, 2005 01:49 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (A friend of mine) |
So I went to the gas station and on my way out a lady walks in and screams
"I'm not arguing!"
Just then I look and see as her husband/boyfriend walks slowly behind her with an embarrased expression, and then it hits me.
Women only win arguments because they choose to argue in public places. If women know one thing, it's that a man doesn't like to argue in a public place. No matter how right the man is, if the debating takes place in a public place, he will lose. Why, you ask?
Because men look like idiots when a woman is yelling at them in public, and when a man is yelling at a woman in public he looks like an abusive asshole.
That is the reason women are always right. Women will put a man down in front of the biggest crowd they can find and watch as he puts his head down in shame. The man can do nothing to retort. Arguing back will just make him look worse. This is how women make it so a man can't put in his two cents. Men can't win, if men can't talk.
Women fight dirty :hopping: |
Well?
Karn - May 1, 2005 01:51 AM (GMT)
That's hilarious, and it makes alot of sense.
Ray - May 1, 2005 01:54 AM (GMT)
Ken_Ki - May 1, 2005 02:01 AM (GMT)
so true -.- women are all powerful using mightly guilt trips , the fact men have no off buttons , and like you mentioned. It is hard sometimes...
Severian - May 1, 2005 02:05 AM (GMT)
True with some. Definitely an overgeneralization, though, to even say that most women are like that, though, but some definitely are.
'Ivan - May 1, 2005 02:45 AM (GMT)
Good to hear it. I'll tell my friend how he has your support. ^_^
...I really don't think....well, hm....I'd need to spend more time which I don't have thinking for this one. <_<
Karn - May 1, 2005 02:48 AM (GMT)
Not all women are like that. But the trueness lies in the fact that if a woman is like that the man is helpless.
Death Titan - May 1, 2005 03:31 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Karn @ Apr 30 2005, 09:48 PM) |
| Not all women are like that. But the trueness lies in the fact that if a woman is like that the man is helpless. |
most of the women i know are
grondring - May 1, 2005 04:36 AM (GMT)
I can't wait to read a female comment on this.
'Ivan - May 1, 2005 02:12 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (grondring @ May 1 2005, 12:36 AM) |
| I can't wait to read a female comment on this. |
One should be coming along within minutes of this post.
strikeraider827 - May 1, 2005 02:15 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE ('Ivan @ May 1 2005, 07:12 AM) |
| QUOTE (grondring @ May 1 2005, 12:36 AM) | | I can't wait to read a female comment on this. |
One should be coming along within minutes of this post.
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Yup, I bet. HEY, SARAAAAAA!
sara13987 - May 1, 2005 02:19 PM (GMT)
I couldn't answer last night, because my mom was upset at me being on the comp too long... again.
That's completely not true. Men have always been wondering why women always win. Or, at least, ever since I can remember.
See, men are more primitive than women. They rely on physical strength and such to show off, and to prove their point. Don't even try to deny that fact. Why else would you guys be so worked up about muscles?
Women, on the other hand, rely more on deception and manipulation. They know that no physical pain can outdo any emotional pain. They, rather, just plant a seed of doubt, and watch it grow.
Since there has long been a ... politeness rule that men aren't allowed to hit women, they are left completely defenseless. I mean, face it, if you hit a girl at all, she'll tell her friends, and you're looked on as an abuser.
Yelling in a public place is just one type of how women can use men's weaknesses for their own good. But, don't even dare think that everyone's like that. I, myself, don't even talk in public. If I do, it's really quietly, unless I'm hyper. That's a different story, though.
Other sorts of ways that women can take full use of men is: threatening with abstinence, threatening with food (not always, but how many of you guys actually go grocery shopping?), etc. etc. I'm not an adult yet, so I'm not completely sure of all the ways.
| QUOTE ( 'Ivan's Friend) |
| No matter how right the man is, if the debating takes place in a public place, he will lose. |
That comment seems, to me, that the person is arrogant, thinking that the man is always right. Yes, I know it isn't intended to be that way, but, whenever I've heard someone say "how right" someone is, it always means that they're "always right".
Also, women know that if they keep arguing, they will win. Men just see that, and give up. Just because we're persistant, doesn't mean that we play dirty.
Lionheart - May 1, 2005 03:29 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (grondring @ Apr 30 2005, 11:36 PM) |
| I can't wait to read a female comment on this. |
Um...What do you call Ray?
sara13987 - May 1, 2005 03:32 PM (GMT)
Ray's a guy, I'm pretty sure.
Lionheart - May 1, 2005 03:41 PM (GMT)
Stupid colors in his sig.......
Karn - May 1, 2005 04:15 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (sara13987 @ May 1 2005, 09:19 AM) |
I couldn't answer last night, because my mom was upset at me being on the comp too long... again.
That's completely not true. Men have always been wondering why women always win. Or, at least, ever since I can remember.
See, men are more primitive than women. They rely on physical strength and such to show off, and to prove their point. Don't even try to deny that fact. Why else would you guys be so worked up about muscles?
Women, on the other hand, rely more on deception and manipulation. They know that no physical pain can outdo any emotional pain. They, rather, just plant a seed of doubt, and watch it grow.
Since there has long been a ... politeness rule that men aren't allowed to hit women, they are left completely defenseless. I mean, face it, if you hit a girl at all, she'll tell her friends, and you're looked on as an abuser.
Yelling in a public place is just one type of how women can use men's weaknesses for their own good. But, don't even dare think that everyone's like that. I, myself, don't even talk in public. If I do, it's really quietly, unless I'm hyper. That's a different story, though.
Other sorts of ways that women can take full use of men is: threatening with abstinence, threatening with food (not always, but how many of you guys actually go grocery shopping?), etc. etc. I'm not an adult yet, so I'm not completely sure of all the ways.
| QUOTE ( 'Ivan's Friend) | | No matter how right the man is, if the debating takes place in a public place, he will lose. |
That comment seems, to me, that the person is arrogant, thinking that the man is always right. Yes, I know it isn't intended to be that way, but, whenever I've heard someone say "how right" someone is, it always means that they're "always right".
Also, women know that if they keep arguing, they will win. Men just see that, and give up. Just because we're persistant, doesn't mean that we play dirty.
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I don't think that the comment was saying that all women are like that, or at least that's not how I interpretted it. The point is that due to stereotypes if an argument occurs in public the woman will win because of the views of onlookers.
Durendal - May 1, 2005 06:27 PM (GMT)
The thing is Sara, you don't live in a large city, so you don't see the kind of corruption that some members do. I have no doubt that there are females who don't manipulate men and don't attack their weak points, but I don't see too many.
Trace Stratus - May 1, 2005 06:34 PM (GMT)
That sounds egotistical to me. We could go into an emature rant of which sex is better than the other but that is better to be ignored, but I will state my a few points on the matter.
| QUOTE |
| See, men are more primitive than women. They rely on physical strength and such to show off, and to prove their point. Don't even try to deny that fact. Why else would you guys be so worked up about muscles? |
The primitive part is untrue. That is a slap in the face right there. not all men are brawny, meat-heads, that is one of the lamest steriotypes in history like the house wife seriotype.
True their are men who work out to improve their strength and stanima but its to stay in shape or to become better sports players. Also, not all men are muscular, when do you go to a concert and see some weight lifter sing and play the guitar? Do you go to your class and your male teacher is lifting wieghts between lectures? Footbal players have to pass college with good grades to join a proffesional team so they aren't retards out to hit something. Their are also female wrestlers for that matter and wemon to participate in the Olympics so that steriotype is shot down right there.
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| Women, on the other hand, rely more on deception and manipulation. They know that no physical pain can outdo any emotional pain. They, rather, just plant a seed of doubt, and watch it grow. |
I'm pretty sure that not every women walks around plotting schemes of how to bend the will of others to their command. Its not like when they meet a guy they just come up with a plan to focre them into something for them, and even if they do it's not a garuntee they fall for it.
Women can also fight and will go for the physical pain. For example, a kick between the legs and a slap on the face or a heavy purse slammed against the head. works for the ones who don't take classes or go out to the gym. men also can sue emotional ploys and tricks, thats why you can see one guy fling from one girl to another as if flipping through the pages of a book. It works both ways.
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Since there has long been a ... politeness rule that men aren't allowed to hit women, they are left completely defenseless. I mean, face it, if you hit a girl at all, she'll tell her friends, and you're looked on as an abuser.
Yelling in a public place is just one type of how women can use men's weaknesses for their own good. But, don't even dare think that everyone's like that. I, myself, don't even talk in public. If I do, it's really quietly, unless I'm hyper. That's a different story, though. |
There is that universal rule of not hitting a women, but a girl wouldn't always go to her friends because wouldn't it make them doubt her relationship with her husband? Also, if the guy was an abuser and he found out she was rating him out a few more pnches would roll her way, thats why you always hear on the news that it takes wemon eyars to tell police their husband has been abusing her.
The yelling is something I've never seen before but men losing at arguements is a steriotype brought on from stand-up comics relaying it all the time. My dad has won arguements, he just has to settle my mom down, explain his side to her and discuss it logically. My dad is not always right though of coarse, and he can be jut as stubborn as my mom sometimes about it.
| QUOTE |
| Other sorts of ways that women can take full use of men is: threatening with abstinence, threatening with food (not always, but how many of you guys actually go grocery shopping?), etc. etc. I'm not an adult yet, so I'm not completely sure of all the ways. |
That kind of works both ways. If she swears off one thign to him, she in a way swears it off for herself so it becomes a contest of will for the both of them.
| QUOTE |
| Also, women know that if they keep arguing, they will win. Men just see that, and give up. Just because we're persistant, doesn't mean that we play dirty. |
Heh heh heh, trust me, a guy and girl can be just as stubborn but the guy lets the girl think she wins until she realizes she was wrong. I agree, persistance isn't playing dirty, it's just picking away at the others persistance away.
So, over all what i'm saying is that men and wemon are equal in both ways now-a-days and steriotypes is something you shouldn't let cloud your mind.
SpiralStatic - May 12, 2005 03:36 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (sara13987 @ May 1 2005, 09:19 AM) |
I couldn't answer last night, because my mom was upset at me being on the comp too long... again.
That's completely not true. Men have always been wondering why women always win. Or, at least, ever since I can remember.
See, men are more primitive than women. They rely on physical strength and such to show off, and to prove their point. Don't even try to deny that fact. Why else would you guys be so worked up about muscles?
Women, on the other hand, rely more on deception and manipulation. They know that no physical pain can outdo any emotional pain. They, rather, just plant a seed of doubt, and watch it grow.
Since there has long been a ... politeness rule that men aren't allowed to hit women, they are left completely defenseless. I mean, face it, if you hit a girl at all, she'll tell her friends, and you're looked on as an abuser.
Yelling in a public place is just one type of how women can use men's weaknesses for their own good. But, don't even dare think that everyone's like that. I, myself, don't even talk in public. If I do, it's really quietly, unless I'm hyper. That's a different story, though.
Other sorts of ways that women can take full use of men is: threatening with abstinence, threatening with food (not always, but how many of you guys actually go grocery shopping?), etc. etc. I'm not an adult yet, so I'm not completely sure of all the ways.
| QUOTE ( 'Ivan's Friend) | | No matter how right the man is, if the debating takes place in a public place, he will lose. |
That comment seems, to me, that the person is arrogant, thinking that the man is always right. Yes, I know it isn't intended to be that way, but, whenever I've heard someone say "how right" someone is, it always means that they're "always right".
Also, women know that if they keep arguing, they will win. Men just see that, and give up. Just because we're persistant, doesn't mean that we play dirty.
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um... sara... i do my own grocery shopping... and trace is right, we're not all meatheads... i'm pretty sure the majority of the guys here aren't meatheads... i'm not.. though i am quite large in constitution... but that's not the point.
'Ivan - May 20, 2005 11:50 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (sara13987 @ May 1 2005, 10:19 AM) |
| QUOTE ( 'Ivan's Friend) | | No matter how right the man is, if the debating takes place in a public place, he will lose. |
That comment seems, to me, that the person is arrogant, thinking that the man is always right. Yes, I know it isn't intended to be that way, but, whenever I've heard someone say "how right" someone is, it always means that they're "always right".
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If you are aware of the fact that the statement is not as you said, then try not use it as a point in your argument.
"How right" implies that on any level of "right-ness" for the male, it is irrevelant because the female will win due to the reasons stated above. He never said that the male was always right.
If the male is not right, he will of course, lose. But the meaning of that original sentence is that even if the male IS right, he will lose anyways, and that doesn't seem fair to many.
The Entertainer - May 21, 2005 05:45 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (sara13987 @ May 1 2005, 02:19 PM) |
| See, men are more primitive than women. They rely on physical strength and such to show off, and to prove their point. Don't even try to deny that fact. Why else would you guys be so worked up about muscles? |
Tsk tsk... Sara you know better than to defend your gender when 90% of the people here don't know what your talking about :P And now you get quote molested :D... Oh right I quoted too... Cuz, question. Sure, a lot of guys might like looking muscular, but my question is why do girls get so worked up over abs and all that crap?
Míxtil_<3_fish! - May 21, 2005 01:13 PM (GMT)
the truth of the matter is, we are the first generation to be born where women have more status than men, so in maybe 50 years it will be the other way round.