did you know theres a 50/50 chance that god may not be real???

Im not religious in any way whatsoever. So I find no reason not to believe that. Then again, I dont really believe in the idea of a superior being creating a world and lifeforms......but thats my opinion.

so how are we all here?

and you have got to be kidding me if you belive the evolution therey

how is it possable?

and im asking all the christians to back me up on this

I belive in the evolution thearoy although it might be a differn't one then you are thinking, alot of people say that earth was made when dust particles mixed up to create the world, and i think that mabey over time so many meteorites, and other stuff containing ice crazhed onto earth, enough to build little swamps and lakes, and after awhile all the water with rocks and whatnot, eventually on its own made some type of alive algae or moss of something, and then that grew, and evoled over trillions of years, untill it became a sort of plankton, and evetulay to a type of fish, to a type of frog, into a type of lizard, which can go on land, and then it just springboard from there, at least that is what 4 science teachers told me, but then again i do live in texas, so their IQ reguirements can't be that high, but still

Im not saying your wrong or anything, I just personally think that one almighty being couldn't create earth and humans. Its my opinion, im not trying to make people believe it.

I think its possible, but i don't think thats the case

there are many things in this world you humans do not understand and if you have spirtal power then one night ask for god or something, and you should be answered if not then i dont know what to tell you

you humans, wtf are you a dog or what?

no and......... nvm im not going to sit here forever and explain it and you whouldnt belive me anyways

Lemme quote Grondring quoting Blaise Pascal.

I'm either gaining nothing or going to Hell.

As am I.
I hope they have AC down there :P

How do you figure that? I am not sure what to believe, I'm sure there was some superior creature who started things off, but I dunno if it's still there and watches over everything. Why would he make people with disabilities and such?

Ah, the age old question of how could an omnipotent and benevolent God exist and let there be evil. Maybe he is simply not omnipotent, or not benevolent?


Allthough I am not religious, here is a religious answer to that question. Based off of an explanation in the book "Angels and Demons."

God can be compared to a parent when a kid asks to do something dangerous, such as skateboarding. Although the parent knows that the kid will certainly get hurt, the parent still lets the child do as he wishes because he loves the child. This explains why man is flawed, and man's aspect of free will.

So "God" is flawed? ^_^

um actually, evolution may not be entirely true but if you think about it, it IS partly true b/c think back w/girls from the 50s or something. now look at the girls from these days. they look older and everything. evolution has to have some sort of part to life.

no i think he is just a lazy A$$ and thats just my personall opnion

Not neccasarily. I personally do not believe in a conscience creator of existance, that's just the best argument I've ever seen from the religious stand point.


Evolution is a real thing. It's simple. Some animals have different traits than others. The ones with the useful traits survive longer and reproduce more. Therefore more animals with that trait are made.

what do you mean how do i figure that. its a fact. nobody actually knows if god is real or not.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

no god is not flawed

and there is a therey that humans evolved from monkeys and if that were true the why arent they still evolving?

try answering that

God has a plan for everyone even when you think hes throwing you away hes usualy just testing you

where is phionix he whould tell you the same thing

dont get me wrong, b/c i dont believe in a god but just cus its an interesting argument, but you say man is flawed(definetly true) but this god is supposedly not flawed

evolution takes millions of years. its not like one day yur just gonna wake up with another finger from evolution

V_V ...OMG THAT ISN'T A FINGER!?

yes but the earth isnt that old

Who says we arn't i have 2 crooked pinkys that bendy inward all the time, and the same for the little toes, now its easier for me to fit into smaller places cuase the pinky isn't hanging out, thats evolution to me :P

im confused what is this?

There's one problem with this. There are so many different religions insisting their way is the way to heaven. The idea that simply because many people are Christians means that Christianity is the right religion doesn't work. If you're christian, and the Islaamic radicals are right, you're going to hell. If you Christians are right, then I'm going to convert to Christianity before the end anyway, so I can stay Jewish (supposedly all Jews will convert immideately before). Of course, if the Jihadi's keep the temple from being rebuilt, the Messianic age will come. This statement is according to Christianity. Prove to me God, not necessarily the Christian God, requires you to believe in him/her/it/dog.

In regard to you, FFTA Master...so the theory of Evolution is impossible, but god is flawless and can do everything? If God is flawless, he/she/it/whatever could easily work through evolution. In fact, it would make sense of God, the source of universal order, worked in very "universally legalistic" ways, not doing things supernaturally unless absolutely necessary.

The main flaw in the Evolutionary theory is where life began. Did something just pop up from nothing, or did we somehow evolve from nonliving, free energy into bacteria, and then beyond. But once you have bacteria, single celled organisms, it's reasonable to believe that that can evolve, very slowly, into other things. Why is it so hard for you to believe in an actual explanation instead of *POOF, existence*.

As for the 7 day rule in Abrahamic religions some cite:
-Are days for God days for humans? Are we really so presumptous as to say that our days apply to God, if it exists? Ya, right.
-Why do you believe your religion is actually the right one.

I think it's reasonable to say God could exist, but I don't see why people believe that some book filled with contradictions (possibly from editing by priesthood over the years) is the answer. Not to mention that nearly every religion I've read, including the Torah, New Testament, and Qur'an, provides "heroes" that often act completely against good and moral values of humanity.

Ugg. People live in a stable environment now. People with greater flaws than other are no longer die because of those flaws, and they continue to live. There are some slight changes in humanity though.

The theory states humans evolving from a primate known as primus erectus. Uninformed people think that the evolution theory states that man evolved from a simple chimp-like primate.

Mr. Bucket nowhere did I see in the post you quoted christain, and don't other relgions have there own hell/heaven?

(post directed at chritains, and chatolics i think)
Sorry for DP, but i wanted to say, what about everything that they have proven wrong about the bible, like how did the whole adam&eve thing work out, scientist have proven over and over that before any humans where thought of, dinos had lived trillions and trillions of years, so how did adam and eve be born on like the 5th day or w/e, only thing i could think of is that the whole bible, or most of it (haven't really that must read it) happen, then the world blew up, then world appeared with single cell organisms or something?

One of the biggest conflict of thought, is the interpretation of the "7" days. Seven days could just be a metaphor for staple times in a longer period of time or something.

you know what im just going to end myself right here

i know that im right
God has spoken to people its just not very commen

this remark i just said im not trying to offend anyone but thats the truth and when you die you might go to hell

so im done with this topic

Alright. FFTA stay please. I will need your help.

First Evolution. Evolution is not possible. Mutation is. Evolution is the process of one creature turning into another creater. EX. Dog to Cat. Mutation is the process of one type of animal changing into another but of the same species. EX. Red Squirrel to Flying Squirrel. It has to do with genes. If you want a long explanation PM me aiscool or jordiwordi.

Next Does God Exist. Yes he does. Read the Bible. Then look at Evolution theories of how the world was created. What makes more sense. Poof a world or someone created it.

If you want to talk about this just PM me or aiscool or jordiwordi. We can help.

:peace:

myles_master

Sorry to DP but I forgot one thing

The 7 day theory. If 1 day of creation is 10 million years then why isn't it like that later on in the Bible when it says one day. Think about it.

:peace:

myles_master

and the world is also not that old

(sorry guys i have to defend my religon IM BACK)

ask me a question i will answerit or myles_master,jordiwordi or aiscool can answer it

Evolution makes more sence, no one said poff a world appeared....

You didn't prove any of your points.....


Evolution is not one creature changing into something unrelated, dog to cat, that's stupid. Evolution is based off of a theory known as "Survival of the Fittest", as I said earlier. The individuals with the usefull traits survive longer and reproduce. New animals with those traits are created. Over time mutations occur that are useful, and those creatures survive to pass on the trait. Over time the trait is passed over more creatures, and eventually they are the only surviving individuals of that species, and thus the species has changed slightly. Over a much longer period of time, more slight changes occur, and change the species more.

Do you have any proof of that?

The same person didn't write every book. And people don't use the same metaphor everytime they mention a word in the metaphor.

Carbon dating has proven the earth to be millions of years old.